这是个经典疑问，发现知乎上比quora上的讨论热烈好多。。似乎多数还是认同Melly aware的 https://www.quora.com/Did-Melanie-Wilkes-know-all-about-Scarlett-and-Ashley-all-along-in-Gone-with-the-Wind https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/movies/moviesspecial/the-good-girl-gets-the-last-word.html “Melanie was fully aware of Scarlett’s infatuation with her husband Ashley. Melanie was not stupid; she knew Ashley and Scarlett had had a “thing” before her, Melanie’s, marriage to Ashley. Melanie and Ashley were also related by blood, and had been promised to each other, more or less, as children; Ashley hadn’t been banned from courting other girls prior to his formal engagement and marriage to Melanie. But Melanie trusted Ashley to not cheat on her, and she thought too much of Scarlett to believe Scarlett would have real designs on her husband. However, if Ashley would have just told Scarlett very firmly that he was marrying Melanie and that she needed to back the h*** off, then a lot of heartache could have been saved.”
这是个经典疑问，发现知乎上比quora上的讨论热烈好多。。似乎多数还是认同Melly aware的 https://www.quora.com/Did-Melanie-Wilkes-know-all-about-Scarlett-and-Ashley-all-along-in-Gone-with-the-Wind https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/movies/moviesspecial/the-good-girl-gets-the-last-word.html “Melanie was fully aware of Scarlett’s infatuation with her husband Ashley. Melanie was not stupid; she knew Ashley and Scarlett had had a “thing” before her, Melanie’s, marriage to Ashley. Melanie and Ashley were also related by blood, and had been promised to each other, more or less, as children; Ashley hadn’t been banned from courting other girls prior to his formal engagement and marriage to Melanie. But Melanie trusted Ashley to not cheat on her, and she thought too much of Scarlett to believe Scarlett would have real designs on her husband. However, if Ashley would have just told Scarlett very firmly that he was marrying Melanie and that she needed to back the h*** off, then a lot of heartache could have been saved.” “GATES -- Let''''''''s get right to it. Scarlett O''''''''Hara loved Melanie''''''''s husband, Ashley, and half of Atlanta believed they were having an affair. How much did Melanie know, and when did she know it? DE HAVILLAND -- Well, I will tell you this. She knew her man. And I think she must have known that Scarlett had a big crush on Ashley. But she knew that Ashley, no matter how Scarlett might tempt him, in the long run he might get very close to the edge but he would not leap over the edge. And also he knew he had the perfect wife.” meimeiai 发表于 2022-03-23 23:07
哈哈 好可爱 那些大妈也不普通哦，都是南方旧贵族，即使战后也懂得苦中自娱（The truth of the matter was that Melanie had diplomatically managed to amalgamate the Lady Harpists, the Gentlemen''s Glee Club and the Young Ladies Mandolin and Guitar Society with the Saturday Night Musical Circle, so that now Atlanta had music worth listening to） Mrs. Merriwether 带着女儿女婿把面包房做得红红火火，既挣了钱又算体面（没有剥削犯人巴结北佬等） 还有Grandma Fontaine的生存智慧（''Don''t holler — smile and bide your time.''） 小的时候，我一心喜欢Rhett和男女主互动的情节，简直不忍心读他俩分房后的部分 现在重读，看的英文，读到了许多以前没留意的细节，很有意思。对于男女主的结局还是无比痛心，但也同意他俩确实感情上不那么成熟。毕竟是小说，把美好的东西打碎给人看。
就是啊。 ashley根本就是根废柴， 要没有战乱还能继续当贵族老爷， 到了真正天翻地覆的时候， 他完全没了主张， Melanie成了他的主心骨。 Melanie早看穿了老公的本质， 看人方面， SCARLET一直是瞎的。
我恰恰相反， 特别喜欢那个调调。小时候有一期疯狂英语里有飘的电影片段，就是scarlet 向Ashley表白被拒绝后， 躲在书房扔花瓶被船长发现揶揄她那幕，听了无数遍。后来买了audit book， 也特别喜欢southern accent
那个续集完全是狗尾续貂。思嘉第二个女儿怀孕和出生的经过是第九流的言情小说剧情，什么经历了翻船历险绝处逢生于是滚床以为庆贺？还弄个巫婆给她接生，接生出来的孩子因此被视为不祥的妖物，我去，这绝对是中世纪背景的言情的影响。
她在原著里好处和坏处都鲜明，很拼，很实干，冷酷自私，声名狼藉，这样的性格才显得立体。到了续集里，我去，那母性的光辉，那善良的举止，主角光环足足的，就是怎么看怎么不如原著那么有趣。
同意她愿意把人往好处想，不过，
如果Melly只看到优点，就不会最后说Ashley isn't practical了
如果Melly看不透Scarlett, 就不会说她爱的是船长，只是自己不知道了
思佳丽其实按照现在的标准，不能算冷酷无情。她以一己之力把整个家撑起来了。她是那个家唯一看重责任，愿意承担的人。她的妹妹就想着嫁人，可以离开家庭。
她就是比较不择手段一点。所谓不择手段也是用当时南方贵族的标准看的。她比较大的人品污点是骗了妹妹的未婚夫，为了钱和他结婚。结婚后又很任性，没有善待他。第二任老公的死多少是她作的。
除了这点，其他用现在的标准看，都不是事。
战后她在果园里要求Ashley带她私奔，我觉得过了一点
同感。
她说Ashley不实际，也并不是觉得这是个缺点，因为她太了解和理解Ashley，完全知道他为什么会不实际，完全接受他这点，她这样说只是为了解释为什么要让Scarlet照顾Ashley
她说过"Scarlet不知道自己是爱船长的"吗，我怎么不记得
她相信Scarlet爱船长，Scarlet不是嫁给船长了吗，那她当然是爱船长的，就像她相信Scarlet嫁给自己的弟弟是因为爱弟弟一样
甚至骗妹妹未婚夫而嫁给他我都不觉得是污点，如果她不这样，一大家人就要被赶出庄园，流落街头喝西北风，她牺牲了自己救了全家
她就是不顾一切不择手段地扛着全家人survive
她才二十出头，几乎还是个孩子，在天翻地覆后的战乱环境里，连男人都难活命，更不用说她一个养尊处优长大的年轻女孩子，但她不但自己活下来还撑住了一大家人，她的负担太重太重了，她一个人顶好几个男人，她实在太累了，身心俱疲
谁在这如山的压力下都会想逃吧
她太渴望卸下肩上千斤重的担子了，觉得她想和Ashley私奔很可以理解
媚兰还特别适合带娃，首先她很爱孩子，然后还温柔耐心坚定，斯嘉适合外面打拼事业，俩人一个主内一个主外，要钱有钱，要温暖的家庭气氛有温暖的家庭气氛，无敌了。 相反媚兰老公战后没啥用，还不如斯嘉那个瘸腿儿妹夫。
艾希礼比小公爷强，白瑞德倒是像顾二。 不过明兰比斯佳丽强多了
不肯转码😂
我没好意思直说
不见的人人要转码，我意思是男的应该努力去provide - 当男护士，修下水管都行。家里没矿的就得这样。我俗，没办法。
觉得白瑞德才是真正的南方骑士
大家公认Ashley人品好，但我觉得瑞德人品更好
从小时候看这本书起，一直到现在，从始至终都最喜欢思嘉和瑞德
其他各色人物也都喜欢，个个栩栩如生，都很有意思，但最喜欢的只有他们俩
小公爷和顾二爷不应该是Ashley 和白瑞德吗
傲慢与偏见里两男主也可以对得上号。感觉欧美故事里都是这个套路
不知道为啥印象中有Melly告诉船长‘She loves you, she just doesn't know it'，而船长只认为是Melly好心安慰的情节，会不会把书和电影弄混了？哪位记忆力好的jm能帮忙回忆就好了
飘和这部书都是言情鼻祖lol
re，其实他当时工作都找到了，是朋友refer的，但是两个女人都不同意他去北方。
After all, tomorrow is another day不就是最后一句？
God as my witness那一段话确实很激励，非常Scarlet
瑞德的最后一句 :)
哪有。 瑞德最后想融入南方社会完全是为了女儿的将来。在女儿出生前他可是跟北方人打得火热，捞了狂多的钱。还被南方这些人集体抵制。 女儿出生后，瑞德很清楚的知道，未来的南方最终还是会由这些掌握了地方的南方人掌权。如果女儿将来要在南方立足，自己就必须打入南方社会。 瑞德内心对南北双方都是看不起的。看不起南方的迂腐，也看不起北方的暴发。
哈哈哈，确实！最狗血的是还让船长娶了一个梅兰式的家庭教师。只能说这续集绝对狗血中的狗血。
这是个经典疑问，发现知乎上比quora上的讨论热烈好多。。似乎多数还是认同Melly aware的
https://www.quora.com/Did-Melanie-Wilkes-know-all-about-Scarlett-and-Ashley-all-along-in-Gone-with-the-Wind https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/movies/moviesspecial/the-good-girl-gets-the-last-word.html
“Melanie was fully aware of Scarlett’s infatuation with her husband Ashley. Melanie was not stupid; she knew Ashley and Scarlett had had a “thing” before her, Melanie’s, marriage to Ashley. Melanie and Ashley were also related by blood, and had been promised to each other, more or less, as children; Ashley hadn’t been banned from courting other girls prior to his formal engagement and marriage to Melanie. But Melanie trusted Ashley to not cheat on her, and she thought too much of Scarlett to believe Scarlett would have real designs on her husband. However, if Ashley would have just told Scarlett very firmly that he was marrying Melanie and that she needed to back the h*** off, then a lot of heartache could have been saved.”
不觉得Rhett太过完美了嘛，性感、痴情、懂女人、会赚钱、爱孩子 哈哈
这是没读懂Melanie这个人而自己脑补的吧 ;)
书里可没有这个意思。。。
我真觉得Rhett完美
他什么地方的游戏规则都懂，什么人都能应对自如，把每个人都看得透透的，表面上惊世骇俗，心里三观很正
是的，最记得这一段。
说的太好了!
这个说的好，但是我并不认为瑞德爱梅兰妮，他只是欣赏梅兰妮内心的强大，但是绝对是方方面面呗斯嘉丽吸引
应该说斯嘉丽不算是传统贵族审美里的美人，但在现代观念算大美人。看那些油画仕女图里面，好多被推崇的贵族夫人小姐都是苍白瘦削文雅类。但是那些地位不是那么高的女人，或者被贵族圈女士们认为气质粗鲁的姑娘，往往面色红润，胸大腰细，充满朝气。男人可能表面上赞颂前者优雅高贵，但是私底下喜欢后者。
年轻时总以为自己是主角，后来发现做主角需要很大的精神或者肉体能量！
哈哈 好可爱 那些大妈也不普通哦，都是南方旧贵族，即使战后也懂得苦中自娱（The truth of the matter was that Melanie had diplomatically managed to amalgamate the Lady Harpists, the Gentlemen''s Glee Club and the Young Ladies Mandolin and Guitar Society with the Saturday Night Musical Circle, so that now Atlanta had music worth listening to） Mrs. Merriwether 带着女儿女婿把面包房做得红红火火，既挣了钱又算体面（没有剥削犯人巴结北佬等） 还有Grandma Fontaine的生存智慧（''Don''t holler — smile and bide your time.''）
小的时候，我一心喜欢Rhett和男女主互动的情节，简直不忍心读他俩分房后的部分 现在重读，看的英文，读到了许多以前没留意的细节，很有意思。对于男女主的结局还是无比痛心，但也同意他俩确实感情上不那么成熟。毕竟是小说，把美好的东西打碎给人看。