回复 36楼冰是睡着的水的帖子 很容易。 医院要杀孩子， 如果父母不同意， 医院就可以派CPS去抢来杀了。 这个就是西雅图儿童医院试图绑架我们孩子的信。 这个Evelyn Hsu就是个杀人医生。 亚裔， 普林斯顿大学毕业。 Today, I received a call from Evelyn Hsu, MD, Gastroenterology Transplant attending. She and her team have been concerned that Jianhua initially presented about 7 months ago with acute liver failure. On biopsy, he had micronodular cirrhosis. Extensive testing was done at that time for a cause, and none determined; however, subsequently the clinical evidence of his liver disease has improved. He was last seen last spring, with the plan that he would follow up this fall. During the course of his evaluations, his father developed concerns that he had a fatty acid oxidation defect. Extensive metabolic testing has been negative so far, yet dad has been unwilling to drop this diagnostic concern. Due to conflicts with the Gastroenterology Service, he also has indicated that he is seeking care elsewhere, including at Pittsburgh and Portland, Oregon. The Gastroenterology Service is concerned that it would be important to document that, whatever the cause of the liver failure was, it is no longer active. I discussed with Dr. Hsu that, since Jianhua has a very serious medical problem, that failure of his father to seek appropriate follow-up care would constitute medical neglect. I recommended that Gastroenterology connect with dad and set a date this fall by which he must provide documentation that Jianhua is receiving appropriate care elsewhere. Short of that documentation, a Protective Services referral for medical neglect should be made.
这个是CPS调查的结果。 当时CPS误判有律师接了我们的官司， 把我家放过了。 实际上律师都不敢接医院故意杀人的事情。 这种事情很多很多， 就是医院杀人。 I am writing to inform you of the results of the Child Protection Services (CPS) Investigation conducted by the Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS) and your rights concerning the results of this investigation. On or about 10/20/2014, CPS received a report alleging that you abused or neglected your child or a child in your care. CPS investigated this report, which included a discussion of the allegations with you. CPS has completed the investigation and made a finding that abuse or neglect did not occur or that there was insufficient evidence to conclude that the abuse or neglect happened. What type of child abuse or neglect did you allegedly commit? The allegation(s) are: • Negligent treatment or maltreatment Child abuse and neglect is defined in state law. CPS is required to use these definitions when investigating allegations of abuse and neglect. What did CPS find? The CPS investigation showed that the allegation(s) of: 1. Negligent Treatment or Maltreatment on Intake Number 3090401 involving victim Jianhua Xie is Unfounded When an allegation is 'Unfounded,' it means that CPS investigated the allegation and, based on the information available, has determined that it was more likely than not that the allegec:i abuse or neglect did
Having worked with probably 300 cases statewide, I am convinced there is no responsibility and no accountability in the system. I have come to the conclusion: • that poor parents often times are targeted to lose their children because they do not have the where-with-all to hire lawyers and fight the system. Being poor does not mean you are not a good parent or that you do not love your child, or that your child should be removed and placed with strangers; • that all parents are capable of making mistakes and that making a mistake does not mean your children are always to be removed from the home. Even if the home is not perfect, it is home; and that’s where a child is the safest and where he or she wants to be, with family; • that parenting classes, anger management classes, counseling referrals, therapy classes and on and on are demanded of parents with no compassion by the system even while they are at work and while their children are separated from them. This can take months or even years and it emotionally devastates both children and parents. Parents are victimized by “the system” that makes a profit for holding children longer and “bonuses” for not returning children; • that caseworkers and social workers are oftentimes guilty of fraud. They withhold evidence. They fabricate evidence and they seek to terminate parental rights. However, when charges are made against them, the charges are ignored; • that the separation of families is growing as a business because local governments have grown accustomed to having taxpayer dollars to balance their ever-expanding budgets; • that Child Protective Service and Juvenile Court can always hide behind a confidentiality clause in order to protect their decisions and keep the funds flowing. There should be open records and “court watches”! Look who is being paid! There are state employees, lawyers, court investigators, court personnel, and judges. There are psychologists, and psychiatrists, counselors, caseworkers, therapists, foster parents, adoptive parents, and on and on. All are looking to the children in state custody to provide job security. Parents do not realize that social workers are the glue that holds “the system” together that funds the court, the child’s attorney, and the multiple other jobs including DFCS’s attorney. • that The Adoption and the Safe Families Act, set in motion by President Bill Clinton, offered cash “bonuses” to the states for every child they adopted out of foster care. In order to receive the “adoption incentive bonuses” local child protective services need more children. They must have merchandise (children) that sell and you must have plenty of them so the buyer can choose. Some counties are known to give a $4,000 bonus for each child adopted and an additional $2,000 for a “special needs” child. Employees work to keep the federal dollars flowing; • that there is double dipping. The funding continues as long as the child is out of the home. When a child in foster care is placed with a new family then “adoption bonus funds” are available. When a child is placed in a mental health facility and is on 16 drugs per day, like two children of a constituent of mine, more funds are involved; • that there are no financial resources and no real drive to unite a family and help keep them together; • that the incentive for social workers to return children to their parents quickly after taking them has disappeared and who in protective services will step up to the plate and say, “This must end! No one, because they are all in the system together and a system with no leader and no clear policies will always fail the children. Look at the waste in government that is forced upon the tax payer; • that the “Policy Manuel” is considered “the last word” for DFCS. However, it is too long, too confusing, poorly written and does not take the law into consideration; • that if the lives of children were improved by removing them from their homes, there might be a greater need for protective services, but today all children are not always safer. Children, of whom I am aware, have been raped and impregnated in foster care and the head of a Foster Parents Association in my District was recently arrested because of child molestation; • that some parents are even told if they want to see their children or grandchildren, they must divorce their spouse. Many, who are under privileged, feeling they have no option, will divorce and then just continue to live together. This is an anti-family policy, but parents will do anything to get their children home with them. • fathers, (non-custodial parents) I must add, are oftentimes treated as criminals without access to their own children and have child support payments strangling the very life out of them; • that the Foster Parents Bill of Rights does not bring out that a foster parent is there only to care for a child until the child can be returned home. Many Foster Parents today use the Foster Parent Bill of Rights to hire a lawyer and seek to adopt the child from the real parents, who are desperately trying to get their child home and out of the system; • that tax dollars are being used to keep this gigantic system afloat, yet the victims, parents, grandparents, guardians and especially the children, are charged for the system’s services. • that grandparents have called from all over the State of Georgia trying to get custody of their grandchildren. DFCS claims relatives are contacted, but there are cases that prove differently. Grandparents who lose their grandchildren to strangers have lost their own flesh and blood. The children lose their family heritage and grandparents, and parents too, lose all connections to their heirs. • that The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in 1998 reported that six times as many children died in foster care than in the general public and that once removed to official “safety”, these children are far more likely to suffer abuse, including sexual molestation than in the general population. • That according to the California Little Hoover Commission Report in 2003, 30% to 70% of the children in California group homes do not belong there and should not have been removed from their homes. Please continue: FINAL REMARKS On my desk are scores of cases of exhausted families and troubled children. It has been beyond me to turn my back on these suffering, crying, and sometimes beaten down individuals. We are mistreating the most innocent. Child Protective Services have become adult centered to the detriment of children. No longer is judgment based on what the child needs or who the child wants to be with or what is really best for the whole family; it is some adult or bureaucrat who makes the decisions, based often on just hearsay, without ever consulting a family member, or just what is convenient, profitable, or less troublesome for a director of DFCS. I have witnessed such injustice and harm brought to these families that I am not sure if I even believe reform of the system is possible! The system cannot be trusted. It does not serve the people. It obliterates families and children simply because it has the power to do so. Children deserve better. Families deserve better. It’s time to pull back the curtain and set our children and families free. “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and the needy” Proverbs 31:8-9
抢你的钱迫害你的家庭 that the Foster Parents Bill of Rights does not bring out that a foster parent is there only to care for a child until the child can be returned home. Many Foster Parents today use the Foster Parent Bill of Rights to hire a lawyer and seek to adopt the child from the real parents, who are desperately trying to get their child home and out of the system; • that tax dollars are being used to keep this gigantic system afloat, yet the victims, parents, grandparents, guardians and especially the children, are charged for the system’s services. 全国都一样 that The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in 1998 reported that six times as many children died in foster care than in the general public and that once removed to official “safety”, these children are far more likely to suffer abuse, including sexual molestation than in the general population. • That according to the California Little Hoover Commission Report in 2003, 30% to 70% of the children in California group homes do not belong there and should not have been removed from their homes.
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纽约警方周二表示，一名失踪两年多的6岁女孩目前已被安全找到。
2019年7月，时年4岁的舒尔蒂斯（Paislee Shultis）在纽约州中西部的汤普金斯郡（Tompkins）的家中被报告失踪，当时警方将嫌犯锁定为舒尔蒂斯无监护权的父母，但线索很快中断了。
索格蒂斯镇（Saugerties）警方周二表示，他们在情人节当天搜索了该镇一处民宅，并在房屋内的一处隐蔽地点发现了被藏匿的舒尔蒂斯，这栋房屋的屋主是她的祖父。
周一晚，舒尔蒂斯的祖父老舒尔蒂斯（Kirk Shultis Sr.）坚称对其下落不知情，并说自从她被报失踪后，就没见过她。
然而，经过一个多小时的搜索，警方在通往地下室的楼梯上发现了一个暗门，警方移开楼梯踏板后，发现舒尔蒂斯和她生母库珀（Kimberly Cooper）躲藏在一间黑暗潮湿的暗室中。女孩被送往医院检查，发现健康状况良好。她后来出院，并与她的合法监护人和姐姐团聚。
库珀、舒尔蒂斯的生父科克·舒尔蒂斯(Kirk Shultis Jr.)以及老舒尔蒂斯现在都面临指控，库珀的罪名包括妨碍监护和危害儿童福利的轻罪。而科克·舒尔蒂斯面临妨害监护的重罪和危害儿童福利的轻罪，老科尔蒂斯面临同样罪名。
两名男子都已接受聆讯，并在交纳保释金后获释。目前还不清楚他们是否提出了抗辩。
法院还向三人发出禁制令，禁止他们接近科尔蒂斯。索格蒂斯警方说，预计还会有更多人被逮捕。
警方表示，他们的调查正在进行中。
这个case恐怕不一定，家庭问题的概率更大。 孩子健康状态良好，而且按照说的是躲在暗室，并不是小娃住在暗室。
躲在暗室几年不见天日算什么
https://nypost.com/2022/02/15/paislee-shultis-girl-missing-since-2019-found-alive/
不是，是爷爷和爸爸把孙女和妈妈藏起来
警方两年一直在搜索？不可能吧 这个周一晚 到底是2年前的周一晚 还是2021的周一晚
热。法院是根据啥同时剥夺了父母两人的监护权？虐童？嗑药？
新闻应该是说调查人员来找的时候他们才躲到暗室的，平时可能就是在家里正常生活，否则罪名就应该是非法拘禁了
不见得是一直躲在暗室几年吧， 应该是怕被警察看到所以临时躲在暗室里。 如果是一直关在暗室里，那就不是“妨碍监护和危害儿童福利的轻罪”了。 感觉这个case就是失去了孩子监护权的亲生父母伙同孩子祖父一起把孩子藏起来， 孩子应该没有受什么罪，而是和自己家人生活在一起。
不知道为什么孩子的生父母都没有监护权，也许是两个人都有什么犯罪行为所以孩子的监护权是在foster home？
新闻报道是说，发现时躲在暗室，不是二年中躲在暗室。
报道说亲生父母之前没有任何charge的记录，所以很奇怪的事情。
6岁的小孩子，如果真的2年都不见天日，还能在突袭的情况下“well taken care of and in good health,”？ 而且小孩子还知道麦当劳，说有段时间没吃麦当劳了。什么样的6岁孩子能记得自己4岁时候吃麦当劳？
如果孩子被送去foster home，还是挺不好的，大部分foster home都是底层，为了钱收养这些孩子，对孩子们并不好。记得以前看一个电视，一个foster home把冰箱上锁，不让孩子们随便拿东西吃。
不懂为什么这些对孩子不好的foster home却能持续领养到孩子拿钱。
因为一般原生家庭有更大的问题
re 这种监护权悲剧太多了
同意，为什么祖父母不能有监护权
（新帖被转入闲话2了， 哎，copy/paste到这个楼，提醒一下有小娃的家长，防火防盗防CPS, 行善积德，就算要帮别家小孩，也可以找警察，能不惹CPS 尽量不要惹）
背后的原因我们并不知情,期待更多爆料
我朋友所在的教会有对老夫妻，女儿单亲，吸毒，失去了三个孩子的抚养权。老夫妻为了争取孙子的抚养权，把房子卖了打官司，最后终于争取到了。教会的人，自发给这家人建了个房子，我朋友总负责。我和老公当时在读书，课余也经常跑去做点儿零工。见过那家，很有爱的一家人。
太痛心了啊，希望他们能再做些什么把孩子拿回来
看她衣被这埋汰的样子我不觉得她被照顾得很好。
有些地区的学校也会助纣为虐的，不管公校私校都会想办法让cps去human trafficking
很容易。 医院要杀孩子， 如果父母不同意， 医院就可以派CPS去抢来杀了。 这个就是西雅图儿童医院试图绑架我们孩子的信。
这个Evelyn Hsu就是个杀人医生。 亚裔， 普林斯顿大学毕业。
Today, I received a call from Evelyn Hsu, MD, Gastroenterology Transplant attending. She and her team have been concerned that Jianhua initially presented about 7 months ago with acute liver failure. On biopsy, he had micronodular cirrhosis. Extensive testing was done at that time for a cause, and none determined; however, subsequently the clinical evidence of his liver disease has improved. He was last seen last spring, with the plan that he would follow up this fall. During the course of his evaluations, his father developed concerns that he had a fatty acid oxidation defect. Extensive metabolic testing has been negative so far, yet dad has been unwilling to drop this diagnostic concern. Due to conflicts with the Gastroenterology Service, he also has indicated that he is seeking care elsewhere, including at Pittsburgh and Portland, Oregon. The Gastroenterology Service is concerned that it would be important to document that, whatever the cause of the liver failure was, it is no longer active. I discussed with Dr. Hsu that, since Jianhua has a very serious medical problem, that failure of his father to seek appropriate follow-up care would constitute medical neglect. I recommended that Gastroenterology connect with dad and set a date this fall by which he must provide documentation that Jianhua is receiving appropriate care elsewhere. Short of that documentation, a Protective Services referral for medical neglect should be made.
I am writing to inform you of the results of the Child Protection Services (CPS) Investigation conducted by the Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS) and your rights concerning the results of this investigation. On or about 10/20/2014, CPS received a report alleging that you abused or neglected your child or a child in your care. CPS investigated this report, which included a discussion of the allegations with you. CPS has completed the investigation and made a finding that abuse or neglect did not occur or that there was insufficient evidence to conclude that the abuse or neglect happened. What type of child abuse or neglect did you allegedly commit? The allegation(s) are: • Negligent treatment or maltreatment Child abuse and neglect is defined in state law. CPS is required to use these definitions when investigating allegations of abuse and neglect. What did CPS find? The CPS investigation showed that the allegation(s) of: 1. Negligent Treatment or Maltreatment on Intake Number 3090401 involving victim Jianhua Xie is Unfounded When an allegation is 'Unfounded,' it means that CPS investigated the allegation and, based on the information available, has determined that it was more likely than not that the allegec:i abuse or neglect did
这就是每次警察来临时躲一下的，把楼梯掀开藏在下面。并且钉子都装回去。平时显然不住那里啊。所以警察找了好几次没找到
警察也不想伤天害理，， 没有办法才去。 估计大多数就放过了， 遇到一个傻逼新警察这个孩子就完蛋了。
万一是虐待孩子的父母呢
我显然知道这一点所以并没有指摘这个“密室”条件不好，我是说衣物被褥都很脏了，显然是长久没有洗过，一般条件的家庭里哪里找得出这么脏的东西，给狗用的都不至于吧。
• 贫穷的父母常常成为失去孩子的目标，因为他们没有 有能力聘请律师并与系统作斗争。贫穷并不意味着 你不是一个好父母，或者你不爱你的孩子，或者你的孩子应该 被移走并与陌生人放置；
• 所有父母都有犯错的能力，犯错不会 意味着您的孩子将永远被带离家中。即使家不在 完美，就是家；那是孩子最安全的地方，也是他或她想去的地方 和家人在一起；
• 育儿课程、愤怒管理课程、咨询转介、治疗课程 不断地要求父母，即使在系统没有同情的情况下 他们在工作，而他们的孩子则与他们分开。这可以采取 几个月甚至几年，它在情感上摧毁了孩子和父母。父母 被“制度”所害 不返回孩子的“奖金”；
• 个案工作者和社会工作者经常犯欺诈罪。他们扣留 证据。他们捏造证据，并试图终止父母的权利。 但是，当对他们提出指控时，这些指控将被忽略；
• 家庭分离作为一项业务正在增长，因为地方政府已经 习惯于用纳税人的钱来平衡他们不断扩大的预算；
• 儿童保护服务机构和少年法庭总是可以躲在一个 保密条款，以保护他们的决定并保持资金流动。 应该有公开记录和“宫廷守望”！看看谁在收钱！ 有国家雇员、律师、法庭调查员、法庭工作人员和法官。 有心理学家、精神科医生、辅导员、个案工作者、治疗师、寄养 父母，养父母等等。所有人都在寻找州内的孩子 提供工作保障。父母没有意识到社会工作者是粘合剂 将“系统”整合在一起，为法院、儿童的律师和 其他多项工作，包括 DFCS 的律师。
• 由比尔·克林顿总统发起的《收养和家庭安全法》， 向各州为他们收养的每个孩子提供现金“奖金”。在 为了获得当地儿童保护服务需要的“收养奖励奖金” 更多的孩子。他们必须有出售的商品（儿童），而您必须有 很多，所以买家可以选择。众所周知，一些县会提供 4,000 美元 每个被收养的孩子的奖金和额外的 2,000 美元用于“特殊需要”的孩子。 员工努力保持联邦资金流动；
• 有双重浸渍。只要孩子不在，资助就会继续 家。当寄养的孩子被安置在新家庭中时，“收养奖金” 资金”可用。当孩子被安置在精神卫生机构并处于 16 岁时 每天吸毒，就像我的一个成员的两个孩子，涉及更多的资金；
• 没有财务资源，也没有真正的动力来团结家庭并帮助维持 他们在一起；
• 鼓励社会工作者在之后迅速将孩子送回父母身边 带走他们的人已经消失了，谁在保护服务中将站出来， 说：“这必须结束！没有人，因为他们都在系统里一起，一个系统 没有领导者，也没有明确的政策，总是会让孩子们失望。看看里面的垃圾 强加于纳税人的政府；
“政策手册”被认为是 DFCS 的“最后一句话”。不过，也太 长，太混乱，写得不好，没有考虑到法律；
• 如果将儿童从家中带走以改善他们的生活，那么 可能更需要保护服务，但今天并非所有儿童都 更安全。据我所知，儿童在寄养中被强奸和怀孕 我区一个寄养父母协会的负责人最近被捕 因为猥亵儿童；
• 有些父母甚至被告知如果他们想见自己的孩子或孙子，他们 必须与配偶离婚。许多处于特权之下的人觉得他们没有 选择，会离婚，然后继续同居。这是一项反家庭政策，但 父母会做任何事情让他们的孩子和他们一起回家。
• 父亲（非监护父母）我必须补充一点，他们经常被视为罪犯而没有 接触自己的孩子并获得扼杀生命的子女抚养费 从他们那里；
• 《寄养父母权利法案》并未表明有寄养父母 只能照顾孩子，直到孩子可以回家。许多寄养父母 今天使用《寄养父母权利法案》聘请律师并寻求收养孩子 来自真正的父母，他们拼命想让孩子回家和离开 系统;
• 税收被用来维持这个庞大的系统，但受害者， 父母、祖父母、监护人，尤其是儿童，需为 系统的服务。
• 祖父母从乔治亚州各地打来电话，试图获得监护权 他们的孙子。 DFCS 声称已联系亲属，但有些情况证明不同。祖父母是谁 失去了自己的孙子，让陌生人失去了自己的骨肉。这些孩子 失去了他们的家庭遗产，祖父母和父母也失去了与他们的所有联系 他们的继承人。
• 国家虐待和忽视儿童中心在 1998 年报告说， 许多儿童在寄养中死亡，而不是在普通公众中，而且一旦被转移到 官方“安全”，这些孩子更容易遭受虐待，包括性虐待 骚扰比一般人群。
• 根据加州小胡佛委员会 2003 年的报告，30% 加州集体之家 70% 的孩子不属于那里，也不应该有 被从他们的家中搬走。
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最后的话
我的办公桌上有几十个疲惫的家庭和陷入困境的孩子的案例。它有 已经超出了我对这些痛苦，哭泣，有时甚至被殴打的态度 个人。我们正在虐待最无辜的人。儿童保护服务已成为 以成人为中心，对儿童不利。不再是基于孩子的判断 需要或孩子想和谁在一起，或者什么对整个家庭最有利；这是一些 做出决定的成年人或官僚，通常仅基于道听途说，从未 咨询家庭成员，或者只是方便、有利或不那么麻烦的 DFCS的董事。
我目睹了给这些家庭带来的不公正和伤害，我什至不确定自己是否 相信体制改革是可能的！系统不能被信任。它不服务于 人们。它消灭家庭和儿童仅仅是因为它有能力这样做。 孩子应该得到更好的。家庭应该得到更好的。是时候拉开窗帘了 我们的孩子和家庭免费。
“为那些不能为自己说话的人，为所有一贫如洗的人的权利说话。 畅所欲言，公平判断；捍卫穷人和有需要的人的权利”
如果虐待的话，孩子不会健康状况良好吧
你为什么不说亲生父母是恶魔？
能把娃锁在楼梯下面空间过两年，睡在全是霉点的毯子上。这种父母配有监护权？
因为人家孩子医生检查过了啥都挺好 说明孩子过得好 而且孩子主动躲警察 是这个系统在摧残这一家人
对的, 没错, 好多片子里都有关于这个的, shameless里面, 大姐拼命的要把弟弟妹妹从foster 家庭里救出来, 一家人在一块.
不过那个里面弟弟被送到一个高知富帅gay家庭里, 对他也很好, 他非给人家捣乱....哈哈.
全国都一样 that The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in 1998 reported that six times as many children died in foster care than in the general public and that once removed to official “safety”, these children are far more likely to suffer abuse, including sexual molestation than in the general population. • That according to the California Little Hoover Commission Report in 2003, 30% to 70% of the children in California group homes do not belong there and should not have been removed from their homes.