John Kreuger 美国白人18年代表美国获冬奥速滑银牌,2022年代表匈牙利冬奥会获速滑铜牌。他家人说没啥可抱歉

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John-Henry Kreuger 2018年代表美国获得冬奥会铜牌,2022年代表匈牙利参加北京冬奥会。他家人丝毫没有歉意。 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/sports/olympics/krueger-speedskating-hungary.html
America’s Only Short Track Olympic Medalist Competes for Hungary Money is one reason, but his mother says it’s not the only one. The speedskater John-Henry Kreuger, she said, is “a world traveler and world appreciator.”

BEIJING — John-Henry Krueger, who grew up outside Pittsburgh, became the first American at these Games to win a medal in short-track speedskating — the first American to win any medal — when his mixed gender relay team took the bronze on Saturday. The American team, however, won’t be celebrating the milestone. He won his medal while competing for Hungary. For a time, the Americans had hoped Krueger would be a breakout star for the team, the next Apolo Ohno. Instead, Krueger collected the medal for a country he moved to only after the 2018 Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea, where he won a silver medal in the 1,000-meter race. That was for the United States.
And so, Krueger becomes the answer to an obscure trivia question, as the first Winter Olympian to win a medal for the United States and another country, according to the Olympic historian Bill Mallon. And he and his family are not apologetic to anyone who asks. “We look at things very, very differently,” Heidi Krueger, his mother, said in an interview on Sunday. “He looks at this as a profession. He looked at the situation and made a choice that he was so thankful to make.” John-Henry has long been a short-track speedskating nomad, a “world traveler and a world appreciator,” as Heidi put it.
Krueger during his 1,000-meter heat on Saturday.Credit...
James Hill for The New York Times He fell in love with the sport at a young age and quickly outgrew the resources available where he lived in Peters Township, Penn. Heidi, a figure skating coach, began driving John-Henry and his older brother Cole four hours to Washington, D.C., to train each week.
At age 16, John-Henry moved to Salt Lake City to train with the American national team, spending three years there but missing a chance to compete in the 2014 Olympics after contracting the swine flu. Krueger next lived in South Korea, where short track is practically the national sport, and later the Netherlands, joining his American compatriots for only a few months each year on the World Cup circuit.
A few months after the 2018 Olympics, Krueger moved to Budapest, this time joining Cole, who was already skating for Hungary. John-Henry was given a passport after a few months and now skates in the nation’s red, green and white. In a brief interview after a recent training session in Beijing Krueger, 26, described a lifestyle in Hungary that borders on monastic. “The team and I kind of live, breathe and eat skating,” he said. “It’s just on the ice. Again and again and again.” Heidi described a typical week for her sons as consisting of two-a-day practices: Warm-ups, two hours on the ice, an afternoon meal, rest, weights or dry land training and finally media obligations. “My boys are home, fed, and usually in bed by 7:30 every night,” she said. “You have to understand, skaters at this level, it doesn’t matter what country they’re in. That is their day.” Everybody describes Krueger as driven, even by the high standards of Olympians. He does not have much time to pursue his few hobbies, which include video games and drinking tea.
“The kid just loves speedskating,” said J.R. Celski, who competed for the United States in three Olympics, including in 2018 with Krueger. “I think that was it for him. That was his bread and butter.” The focus has seemingly driven Krueger to the top of his sport, but also into a conflict with U.S. Speedskating that precipitated his defection to Hungary.
U.S. Speedskating’s annual budget is only a few million dollars. Even the top speedskaters in the country receive only around $20,000 from the federation. They must live off that, or get support from their family or work a second job. A few are popular enough to get substantial money from sponsors. Most aren’t. After winning the silver medal in 2018, Krueger said he would use the $15,000 he received from the United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee to pay off loans he took out to be able to reach the Olympics in the first place.
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Financing his skating life has been an issue for Krueger, who skated for the U.S. at the Pyeongchang Games in 2018.Credit...
Hilary Swift for The New York Times In Hungary, elite athletes receive financial support from the government, which is common in most of the world but not the United States. It includes a stipend and housing, and he has a car from a sponsor. “I will be able to pay for basic necessities like groceries, rent, apartment furnishings, clothes and equipment without putting myself and my family in debt,” Krueger said after joining the Hungarian team. “His camp was fairly aggressive about essentially that we had to meet their demands for him to remain part of Team U.S.A.,” said Ted Morris, the executive director of U.S. Speedskating. “Those demands were things that we just couldn’t meet.” Krueger disputed that notion, saying the disagreement was over more than just finances and that it was a communication error on his part that finances became the highlight in the news media. When asked to explain the disagreement, he said he just wanted to move on. “For me personally, I’m not that interested anymore, and it’s not because it’s more of a sore spot but both parties have kind of moved on,” he said, adding: “I feel like if I put any more time into it, it takes away from what I’m doing. But then also it takes away from the U.S. skaters right now.”
The Kruegers take pains to make it clear that John-Henry is not a mercenary. His great-grandfather emigrated from Hungary to the United States, and his grandfather spoke Hungarian at home. John-Henry is taking weekly Hungarian lessons, though he isn’t optimistic that he will ever become fluent. “Regardless of how bad I am, when I’m in their country, I feel I should put in the effort to learn, to at least show a sign of respect,” he said. Their country. Or is it his country? At other times during the short interview, Krueger called Hungary home. For the first time since 2013, he is regularly training with a team. Alongside a pair of brothers who also straddle two worlds — Shaoang Liu and Shaolin Sandor Liu, who were born in Hungary to a Hungarian mother and a Chinese father — Krueger has helped turn Hungary into an unlikely power in men’s short-track speedskating. It is a big change from the United States, where Krueger did not seem to have close relationships with most of his teammates. Celski, who is five years older than Krueger, said he did not know him particularly well. Thomas Hong, a teammate at the 2018 Olympics, declined an interview for this article.
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The Krueger household was a speedskating hub when Krueger was growing up. “I can remember there were times that I housed up to 21 kids in my home for camps,” said Heidi, before reeling off a list of Olympians in both short and long track who slept over. One of those is Ryan Pivirotto, one of the two American men competing in short track in the Olympics. Without John-Henry, the United States did not earn the maximum five Olympic qualifying spots.
Growing up in Connecticut, Pivirotto would sometimes visit Pittsburgh to train, and he also trained in South Korea for a while. Pivirotto was an alternate at the 2018 Olympics and the top American men’s skater here in Beijing, though he is only No. 51 in the world this year. Krueger is 11th. Both skaters lost in the quarterfinals of the 1,000-meter race Monday night, as Krueger was disqualified for an illegal pass and Pivirotto tripped at the start. The past, and the present, of men’s American short track will face off two more times at these Olympics, in the 1,500 and 500 meters. Asked about Krueger on a video interview last month, a big smile cracked across Pivirotto’s face. “We are still very good friends, but at least in my eyes it is a friendly rivalry where I have always been chasing him and always been behind him, but these past two years I’ve really felt like I have gotten on the same level he has, so I’m always eager to beat him or prove I am as good as him, even if for just one race,” he said.
纸醉金迷
匈牙利和美国的关系不差吧。没那么敌对。所以大家都无所谓。
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huawei6g
本来就是,不要玻璃心
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hongmei
他也替匈牙利宣传自己放弃美籍了?
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Horsemom
他是美国出生的孩子,匈牙利允许这样的人有双重国籍。
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alloccupied
当然没有歉好道。只要他也认同自己是匈牙利人愿意代表匈牙利参赛就行。
不过在技术上,如果先代表匈牙利参赛了,后来又想代表美国参赛,在美国这边似乎不太可行。
其他运动我不知道,但知道NBA. NBA的美国球员只要愿意加入其他国籍国籍并代表那个国家参加奥运或者是世锦赛是毫无问题的。但除非这个球员代表那个国家参赛时年龄小于16岁(那个时候这位球员还根本未到被选秀加入NBA 的年龄),否则他就再无机会将来代表美国参加国际篮球赛事了。
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Zigzag123
认可匈牙利为匈牙利比赛没啥问题啊,但匈牙利换成中国北朝鲜伊朗在西方看来可能就是价值观有问题了。
笨笨熊
他双重国籍没问题,谷爱凌是中国不认可双重国籍,如果她的中国国籍不合法,那她用中国国籍参赛也违反了奥运会的参赛制,那她还能不能保留金牌可能也是有问题的,要参照违反奥赛制相关规定处理
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bbalyssa
他双重国籍没问题,谷爱凌是中国不认可双重国籍,如果她的中国国籍不合法,那她用中国国籍参赛也违反了奥运会的参赛制,那她还能不能保留金牌可能也是有问题的,要参照违反奥赛制相关规定处理
笨笨熊 发表于 2022-02-12 15:13

干脆中国借这次机会放开双重国籍算了 如果成功谷姑娘的贡献比拿一块奥运金牌大多了 也不用被逼着选国籍
笨笨熊
干脆中国借这次机会放开双重国籍算了 如果成功谷姑娘的贡献比拿一块奥运金牌大多了 也不用被逼着选国籍
bbalyssa 发表于 2022-02-12 15:48

中国对普通公民的护照都加强管理,怎么会让大家都有美国这条后路?还给美国交税? 想象一下中国公民在中国被违反了人权都能找美国大使馆介入的局面,从此都不再是内政了 😂
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puting
回复 1楼werden的帖子
LZ真不懂还是假装不懂?大家质疑的不是谷爱凌为什么为中国比赛,这个是她个人自由,他人无权过问。大家好奇的是她到底是中国国籍还是中美双国籍?如果是双国籍,怎么做到的?如果是特殊人才通道,请中国政府出示法律条文,中国是个法治国家,一切以法律为准绳,提这个问题合理吧?如果双国籍中国又拿不出法律条文,这是打中国依法治国的脸吗?
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xiaojiejie
回复 1楼werden的帖子
LZ真不懂还是假装不懂?大家质疑的不是谷爱凌为什么为中国比赛,这个是她个人自由,他人无权过问。大家好奇的是她到底是中国国籍还是中美双国籍?如果是双国籍,怎么做到的?如果是特殊人才通道,请中国政府出示法律条文,中国是个法治国家,一切以法律为准绳,提这个问题合理吧?如果双国籍中国又拿不出法律条文,这是打中国依法治国的脸吗?
puting 发表于 2022-02-12 16:45

中国冰球队的老外已经回答了你这个问题
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Honeypumpkin
不用洗了,闹这么大不正是大国想看到的彰显自信吗
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littlecool
中国冰球队的老外已经回答了你这个问题
xiaojiejie 发表于 2022-02-12 17:16

不正好嘛,全部都拉出来晒晒双国籍。
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csliz
匈牙利可以双重吧?
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chopinor
他双重国籍没问题,谷爱凌是中国不认可双重国籍,如果她的中国国籍不合法,那她用中国国籍参赛也违反了奥运会的参赛制,那她还能不能保留金牌可能也是有问题的,要参照违反奥赛制相关规定处理
笨笨熊 发表于 2022-02-12 15:13

谁说一定要中国国籍才能代表中国出赛的,ioc都明确说了这个没问题,你在这里自作聪明
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Bisu
回复 11楼puting的帖子
外交部名言 不要拿法律当挡箭牌
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Bisu
回复 16楼chopinor的帖子
IOC说不是中国籍也可以代表中国参赛吗?请给出开源,谢谢!
浮云散
由中国永久居留就可以为中国参赛,中国之前制定了引进外籍人才法律,优秀人才可以给中国国籍或永久居留。连街舞的外国优秀人才都能很快拿到中国永久居留。冬奥是中国永久居留满三年就开始代表中国参赛。哪怕入籍了,不再想代表中国参赛,也可以退中国籍回原国籍,已有国足归化队员这么做了。有法律支持这一切操作,前提只要你足够优秀,是需要的人才。谷爱凌这样有天赋的优异人才,现在任何国家的国籍对她都不是事。
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回复 1楼werden的帖子
LZ真不懂还是假装不懂?大家质疑的不是谷爱凌为什么为中国比赛,这个是她个人自由,他人无权过问。大家好奇的是她到底是中国国籍还是中美双国籍?如果是双国籍,怎么做到的?如果是特殊人才通道,请中国政府出示法律条文,中国是个法治国家,一切以法律为准绳,提这个问题合理吧?如果双国籍中国又拿不出法律条文,这是打中国依法治国的脸吗?
puting 发表于 2022-02-12 16:45

不要拿法律当挡箭牌
明月出天山
他双重国籍没问题,谷爱凌是中国不认可双重国籍,如果她的中国国籍不合法,那她用中国国籍参赛也违反了奥运会的参赛制,那她还能不能保留金牌可能也是有问题的,要参照违反奥赛制相关规定处理
笨笨熊 发表于 2022-02-12 15:13

安了吧,人家中国国籍完全合法
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somuch
他也替匈牙利宣传自己放弃美籍了?
hongmei 发表于 2022-02-12 14:56

强👍🏻
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amandalee
干脆中国借这次机会放开双重国籍算了 如果成功谷姑娘的贡献比拿一块奥运金牌大多了 也不用被逼着选国籍
bbalyssa 发表于 2022-02-12 15:48

这种属于我天真的愿景 不会实现的 why 贪官那些护照全部直接合法的 以后扫黑除恶专项更难办了 这群人跑得贼快 一般香港转道去别国了 我倒是希望能双重
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bluecrab
某些海华对谷爱凌的心里潜台词就是:“你本来是我们一堆,现在得罪主人了,主人会觉得我们统统不是忠诚的狗,不喜欢我们怎么办,看那个谁谁谁,就展现了忠诚”。昨天文学城上的文章非常诚实的写出来了这种心态。
嘴里说出来的是:“你犯法了,规则是这样的,你做错了,规则是那样的”


小谷回的好:哭去吧。
说实话,我也挺喜欢看看这些拿着放大镜找毛病这些人,不喜欢又拿她没办法的样子。
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minqidev
某些海华对谷爱凌的心里潜台词就是:“你本来是我们一堆,现在得罪主人了,主人会觉得我们统统不是忠诚的狗,不喜欢我们怎么办,看那个谁谁谁,就展现了忠诚”。昨天文学城上的文章非常诚实的写出来了这种心态。
嘴里说出来的是:“你犯法了,规则是这样的,你做错了,规则是那样的”


小谷回的好:哭去吧。
说实话,我也挺喜欢看看这些拿着放大镜找毛病这些人,不喜欢又拿她没办法的样子。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 08:18

小谷啥都没说,她们纠结的是,你不去陈清,就是默认。 哈哈,我也很喜欢小谷不去理会比赛的样子。
美国白人纠结的是,小谷能够成长为奥运冠军,是因为美国的培养环境。 但是前两天还说 Asian Over represent了。
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cannie
小谷啥都没说,她们纠结的是,你不去陈清,就是默认。 哈哈,我也很喜欢小谷不去理会比赛的样子。
美国白人纠结的是,小谷能够成长为奥运冠军,是因为美国的培养环境。 但是前两天还说 Asian Over represent了。
minqidev 发表于 2022-02-13 08:51

匈牙利的刘兄弟还是在吉林长春训练的呢
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bluecrab
小谷啥都没说,她们纠结的是,你不去陈清,就是默认。 哈哈,我也很喜欢小谷不去理会比赛的样子。
美国白人纠结的是,小谷能够成长为奥运冠军,是因为美国的培养环境。 但是前两天还说 Asian Over represent了。
minqidev 发表于 2022-02-13 08:51

小谷一路读的私立,所有费用都是自付或者自己妈妈找的赞助,美国要说培养费,美国一堆中国大学毕业出来,享受了低廉学费现在效忠别的国家的廉价劳动力算啥?要叫他们叛徒吗?版上大妈贴大字报当心大字报贴的太投入,自己有一天也上了大字报。
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hippogirl
匈牙利允许双国籍,他没做凌驾于法律之上的事情,爱去哪儿是他的自由
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minqidev
匈牙利的刘兄弟还是在吉林长春训练的呢
cannie 发表于 2022-02-13 08:56

对,但是国内还挺支持刘兄弟的,主要是他们俩实力在那。
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hippogirl
由中国永久居留就可以为中国参赛,中国之前制定了引进外籍人才法律,优秀人才可以给中国国籍或永久居留。连街舞的外国优秀人才都能很快拿到中国永久居留。冬奥是中国永久居留满三年就开始代表中国参赛。哪怕入籍了,不再想代表中国参赛,也可以退中国籍回原国籍,已有国足归化队员这么做了。有法律支持这一切操作,前提只要你足够优秀,是需要的人才。谷爱凌这样有天赋的优异人才,现在任何国家的国籍对她都不是事。
浮云散 发表于 2022-02-12 17:52

中国国籍法明文规定不允许双国籍,谷爱凌没有放弃美国国籍,她用中国国籍申报奥运的。如果国籍法改了,很多人都想双国籍的。如果没改,请不要标榜自己是法治国家。
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minqidev
匈牙利允许双国籍,他没做凌驾于法律之上的事情,爱去哪儿是他的自由
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 08:59

你就是 "享受了低廉学费现在效忠别的国家的廉价劳动力"把?
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minqidev
中国国籍法明文规定不允许双国籍,谷爱凌没有放弃美国国籍,她用中国国籍申报奥运的。如果国籍法改了,很多人都想双国籍的。如果没改,请不要标榜自己是法治国家。
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 09:02

中国目前还不是真正的法制国家,起码不是西方认同的法制国家。
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bluecrab
中国国籍法明文规定不允许双国籍,谷爱凌没有放弃美国国籍,她用中国国籍申报奥运的。如果国籍法改了,很多人都想双国籍的。如果没改,请不要标榜自己是法治国家。
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 09:02

哥们,你先说说你大学哪里念的?现在哪里高就?
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hippogirl
中国目前还不是真正的法制国家,起码不是西方认同的法制国家。
minqidev 发表于 2022-02-13 09:04

是法治不是法制
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hippogirl
哥们,你先说说你大学哪里念的?现在哪里高就?
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 09:08

我从来没做违法的事情,你管我在哪儿高就
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bluecrab
我从来没做违法的事情,你管我在哪儿高就
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 09:18

谁违法了?你赶紧举报啊,举报费估计还能给你娃上几门鸡血兴趣班。
你这么强调自己没犯法,大概率是享受了祖国低廉学费但效忠别国的廉价劳动力吧,确实没犯法,主要是没啥成就,否则一样也够资格上大字报大家讨论你是不是叛徒。
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hippogirl
谁违法了?你赶紧举报啊,举报费估计还能给你娃上几门鸡血兴趣班。
你这么强调自己没犯法,大概率是享受了祖国低廉学费但效忠别国的廉价劳动力吧,确实没犯法,主要是没啥成就,否则一样也够资格上大字报大家讨论你是不是叛徒。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 09:27

至少我没犯法就还有选择的自由,不至于陷在牢里拿任务发帖赎罪
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isabel
由中国永久居留就可以为中国参赛,中国之前制定了引进外籍人才法律,优秀人才可以给中国国籍或永久居留。连街舞的外国优秀人才都能很快拿到中国永久居留。冬奥是中国永久居留满三年就开始代表中国参赛。哪怕入籍了,不再想代表中国参赛,也可以退中国籍回原国籍,已有国足归化队员这么做了。有法律支持这一切操作,前提只要你足够优秀,是需要的人才。谷爱凌这样有天赋的优异人才,现在任何国家的国籍对她都不是事。
浮云散 发表于 2022-02-12 17:52

说了这么多,把法律贴出来看看呗
模拟人生
看到楼里有人说中国是法治国家,我要笑死了! 真的不知道中国政府是什么货色吗?!
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bluecrab
至少我没犯法就还有选择的自由,不至于陷在牢里拿任务发帖赎罪
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 09:31

这个举报更方便了,huaren就可以举报,快,赶紧的。不要心虚用“至少”这种词嘛。
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hippogirl
这个举报更方便了,huaren就可以举报,快,赶紧的。不要心虚用“至少”这种词嘛。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 10:00

你煽动网友举报知名运动员,上级知道吗?批准了吗?谁批准的?是不是别有用心?你怕不怕别的小组看到了举报你?
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bluecrab
你煽动网友举报知名运动员,上级知道吗?批准了吗?谁批准的?是不是别有用心?你怕不怕别的小组看到了举报你?
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 10:04

别扯远了,科普版规你也能贴个大字报,看来文革老将。来,说一下哪年的大学,学费交了多少?还给国家没?
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iammaja
别扯远了,科普版规你也能贴个大字报,看来文革老将。来,说一下哪年的大学,学费交了多少?还给国家没?
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 10:06

老留出国要交培养费才能办护照的,当年既交了学费又交了培养费的飘过......
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bluecrab
老留出国要交培养费才能办护照的,当年既交了学费又交了培养费的飘过......
iammaja 发表于 2022-02-13 10:15

呵呵,咱们都很清楚那点培养费够不够,同样的学位在美国多少钱。
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berlin
小谷一路读的私立,所有费用都是自付或者自己妈妈找的赞助,美国要说培养费,美国一堆中国大学毕业出来,享受了低廉学费现在效忠别的国家的廉价劳动力算啥?要叫他们叛徒吗?版上大妈贴大字报当心大字报贴的太投入,自己有一天也上了大字报。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 08:58

美国建国到现在不都是靠机遇吸引人的吗?甚至外来移民把土著都杀光了,现在反而成了主流。没想到现在美国也到了靠爱国精神和故乡情怀吸引人才的地步了,版上各位不都背叛了自己祖国跑到美国了嘛。 其他人种双国籍代表他国参赛,美国人向来没有意见,这次左右派联手下场bully个18岁姑娘,老中真天真到以为是因为ccp? Chloe Kim帮美国拿了金牌,还天天收到hate msg说她抢了白妞机会呢。
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bluecrab
美国建国到现在不都是靠机遇吸引人的吗?甚至外来移民把土著都杀光了,现在反而成了主流。没想到现在美国也到了靠爱国精神和故乡情怀吸引人才的地步了,版上各位不都背叛了自己祖国跑到美国了嘛。 其他人种双国籍代表他国参赛,美国人向来没有意见,这次左右派联手下场bully个18岁姑娘,老中真天真到以为是因为ccp? Chloe Kim帮美国拿了金牌,还天天收到hate msg说她抢了白妞机会呢。

berlin 发表于 2022-02-13 10:30

老中不是天真,就是面子,被白人黑人歧视都没关系,只要能继续歧视大陆中国人就行,微信朋友圈有面子就好。
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strawberrykiwi
呵呵,咱们都很清楚那点培养费够不够,同样的学位在美国多少钱。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 10:18

你想让你爹妈挣中国的工资,交美国的学费?你这么有孝心你爹妈知道吗?
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Yulanhua
楼主真没有必要纠结。这个版和美国社会一样撕裂,反共和不反共,意识形态做主,就没有讨论的必要。
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bluecrab
你想让你爹妈挣中国的工资,交美国的学费?你这么有孝心你爹妈知道吗?
strawberrykiwi 发表于 2022-02-13 10:49

你爹妈知道你反他们吗?
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songriver
如果中国政府同意,那跟谷爱凌有什么关系。天天吵谷爱凌撒谎,深井冰。这种人不是眼红,就是反中。其中必有一个。
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destiny2008
这就是又蠢又坏的例子
雨花
呵呵,咱们都很清楚那点培养费够不够,同样的学位在美国多少钱。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 10:18

这是胡搅蛮缠了。当年工资才多少,培养费是不小的一笔费用。和美国直接比学费,你怎么不比当时的工资呢?
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bluecrab
这是胡搅蛮缠了。当年工资才多少,培养费是不小的一笔费用。和美国直接比学费,你怎么不比当时的工资呢?
雨花 发表于 2022-02-13 11:46

好,你还清了啥都不欠,那小谷欠了?
酒酒_
双国籍在匈牙利合法 现在主要问题不是中国承不承认双国籍,承认就行
小豆
谁违法了?你赶紧举报啊,举报费估计还能给你娃上几门鸡血兴趣班。
你这么强调自己没犯法,大概率是享受了祖国低廉学费但效忠别国的廉价劳动力吧,确实没犯法,主要是没啥成就,否则一样也够资格上大字报大家讨论你是不是叛徒。
bluecrab 发表于 2022-02-13 09:27

要脸不要啊?享受了中国的低廉学费?怎么不说中国榨干了我们父母的血汗钱啊?高级工程师90年代也就给个几百的工资,你想学费收几万你也得看看行情吧?
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backtesting
干脆中国借这次机会放开双重国籍算了 如果成功谷姑娘的贡献比拿一块奥运金牌大多了 也不用被逼着选国籍
bbalyssa 发表于 2022-02-12 15:48

请谷爱凌呼吁中国政府开通双重国籍。 实际上她是不可能呼吁的,她这方面很清楚,她不可能去做得罪政府的事。 中国政府也不可能开通双重国籍,因为红二代有几本护照都可以,但贫民百姓是万万不能有双重国籍的。开通双重国籍不利于维稳,国内的人最见不得别人比他们过得好了。
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bluecrab
要脸不要啊?享受了中国的低廉学费?怎么不说中国榨干了我们父母的血汗钱啊?高级工程师90年代也就给个几百的工资,你想学费收几万你也得看看行情吧?
小豆 发表于 2022-02-13 12:11

美国那么富裕,没榨干工资,义务教育也只有12年,你凭什么觉得中国的大学学费低廉还欠了你呢?
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西风凉
美国建国到现在不都是靠机遇吸引人的吗?甚至外来移民把土著都杀光了,现在反而成了主流。没想到现在美国也到了靠爱国精神和故乡情怀吸引人才的地步了,版上各位不都背叛了自己祖国跑到美国了嘛。 其他人种双国籍代表他国参赛,美国人向来没有意见,这次左右派联手下场bully个18岁姑娘,老中真天真到以为是因为ccp? Chloe Kim帮美国拿了金牌,还天天收到hate msg说她抢了白妞机会呢。

berlin 发表于 2022-02-13 10:30

非常同意这个,chloe kim,还有sunisa lee(女子体操全能奥运冠军)都说她们收到很多hate msg,要她们滚出美国。当然了,她们还是代表美国参赛的,如果她们选择代表其他国家,我也支持。
浮云散
说了这么多,把法律贴出来看看呗
isabel 发表于 2022-02-13 09:38

没这义务,自己有兴趣查查便知。
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amandalee
是法治不是法制
hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-13 09:17

其实是人治啦
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democrap
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