三藩亚裔协会起诉DA office对asian hate crime不作为,希望这是一个起点。

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littlefat
楼主 (北美华人网)
https://youtu.be/Nc8Vo-yMjuo
这个不是捐款贴,只求大家多多关注转发



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Temporarilycalm
支持!三藩真是太过分了
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Tagged
底下一个评论一针见血 Lulu 8 hours ago This must be the saddest press conference ever. So few “journalists “ attended. See how much the city cares about Asians?
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littlefat
底下一个评论一针见血 Lulu 8 hours ago This must be the saddest press conference ever. So few “journalists “ attended. See how much the city cares about Asians?
Tagged 发表于 2022-01-26 10:00

对呀,所以咱们自己人一定要去支持!
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applesauce
支持
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ATuTuA
去把这个DA recall了吧
https://www.recallchesaboudin.org
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yulingxi
支持,支持。
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cutie
袭击那个七十岁越南老爷爷的的父子是什么族裔的呀?
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java
哈哈,在华人上发这个,不是与虎谋皮吗?
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happy3001
去把这个DA recall了吧
https://www.recallchesaboudin.org
ATuTuA 发表于 2022-01-26 13:10

支持,这个垃圾该走了。这帖子大家顶起来。
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ATuTuA
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/11/09/update-petition-recall-san-francisco-da-chesa-boudin-certified-added-june-2022-ballot/
https://ballotpedia.org/Chesa_Boudin_recall,_San_Francisco,_California_(2021-2022)
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MegMegMeg
自从加州零元购以后,三番好多cvs walgreen都关门大吉了,因为太多偷东西的。我公婆家旁边的walgreen也刚刚关门了,附近很多老年人拿药都不知道该去哪,加州已经被牛森和harris搞成个笑话。
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ATuTuA

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/parents-guilty-murder-raised-radicals-chesa-boudin-san-francisco-s-n1101071
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littlefat

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/parents-guilty-murder-raised-radicals-chesa-boudin-san-francisco-s-n1101071
ATuTuA 发表于 2022-01-26 13:36

无论他背景是什么,作为da他就是失职
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Aldi
自从加州零元购以后,三番好多cvs walgreen都关门大吉了,因为太多偷东西的。我公婆家旁边的walgreen也刚刚关门了,附近很多老年人拿药都不知道该去哪,加州已经被牛森和harris搞成个笑话。

MegMegMeg 发表于 2022-01-26 13:35


无法无天吗 昏
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JohnChan
支持!
need to raise our voice
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littlefat
支持!
need to raise our voice
JohnChan 发表于 2022-01-26 14:28

对,就是这个意思!
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basic_world
如果仅仅以asian hate crime不作为这个理由,那这个诉讼最终会不了了之。
因为要在法庭上要有证据才能定罪, hate crime是一个很难取证的罪名,除非犯罪分子在作案时一边呼喊着反亚裔的口号,一边作案,并且有人录像或者其他人证。否则你怎么证明犯罪份子仇恨亚裔呢? 你不能说一个人打劫了亚裔,就能证明他仇恨亚裔啊,他完全可以狡辩说,他打劫纯粹时是了钱;就像人吃猪肉,牛肉,但是人并不恨猪和牛,人吃猪和牛纯粹是因为人饿了。DA也可以狡辩说,“我没有证据,我也不能起诉别人啊。”
因为Hate Crime难以取证这个特点,Anti Asian Hate Crime, 并不是一个很好的口号,更不是一个好的法律。这个法律/口号,反而转移了舆论的视线,让大家忘了证明Crime本身其实很容易证明,比如刚才说的打劫这个例子,要证明Hate很难,但是要证明打劫这个行为却容易得多。而且打劫/袭击,这类行为本身就可以被定罪。
作为选民,应该督促议员们严格立法,比如加大对抢劫,袭击,砸车这类行为的惩罚力度,还要督促警察,DA们赶紧打击Crime,而不是纠结于Hate Crime。
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JohnChan
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elderly-man-ptsd-sf-chinatown-233400779.html
An elderly Asian American man who fell victim to a brutal attack in broad daylight in San Francisco two years ago is launching a federal lawsuit against the city’s District Attorney’s Office for allegedly mishandling his case and mistreating him in the process.
Anh Lê, 69, was out for a walk in Chinatown on Nov. 2, 2019, when a father-and-son duo threatened to kill him and repeatedly struck him with a baseball bat. He managed to call 911 after running away as far as he could.
Lê said it all started after he politely asked the teenage son, who was riding a bicycle, to be careful since it was a crowded sidewalk and he nearly collided with him.
Shortly after, the teenager took out a baseball bat from his mother’s bag and hit Lê multiple times. His father, identified as Jimmy Tanner Sr., then raised a glass bottle and threatened to kill Lê. The incident, which was witnessed by a shocked crowd, occurred in front of a Chinese grocery store at 1118 Stockton St. Lê said Tanner’s wife, who was with another teenage son, “seemed to watch with glee” as the attack unfolded.
“I pleaded with the Tanners to stop, but they relished in their ability to inflict pain and
fear on a defenseless senior citizen,” Lê said in a victim impact statement provided to NextShark. “The attack was the most brutal, terrifying, and humiliating experience of my life, and has stayed with me ever since.”
After the incident, Lê, who is Vietnamese American, learned that the Tanners had targeted other Asian Americans on the same day. The alleged attacks also took place in Chinatown.
The Tanners reportedly entered S&M Ginseng Inc. and Chinese Herbal Store at 1000 Stockton St., just a few blocks from where Lê was attacked, and threatened its store owner and customers. The teen who struck Lê with the baseball bat allegedly used the same object to hit a customer.
Lê said he also learned of a third “terroristic” attack committed by the family near Broadway and Stockton Street. The alleged incident occurred after the attack on himself.
Lê quickly reported his experience to San Francisco police, which led to the Tanners’ arrest later on the same day. The father, Tanner Sr., was taken into custody for battery, felony elder abuse and felony terroristic threats.
The San Francisco District Attorney’s Office, however, refused to prosecute either the father or son with hate crime enhancements and agreed to a lenient plea deal with Tanner Sr., who pled guilty to a misdemeanor battery charge for no jail time and only a year of probation — all without Lê’s knowledge.
In addition to failing to notify Lê of plea deal discussions, the District Attorney’s Office allegedly also failed to provide him a chance to enter a victim impact statement during the proceedings. Consequently, no such statement was read at the plea deal hearing.
Additionally, the office allegedly refused to correct a Criminal Protective Order (CPO) that omitted Lê’s last name — identifying him only as “Anh L” — and misstated his age. Such errors led to Lê doubt the enforceability of the order.
Lê spent months trying to correct the CPO, but his requests have fallen on deaf ears, according to him. Even after retaining pro bono counsel, the District Attorney’s Office allegedly continued to ignore him, even telling him at one point that he had no right to be at hearings.
Lê, who is represented by King & Spalding LLP — a member of the Alliance for Asian American Justice — is now suing the District Attorney’s Office under the Fourteenth Amendment. He is accusing the office of applying procedures that resulted in discriminatory effects on Asian Americans and creating practices that deny victims adequate due process protections.
Lê is also bringing a claim against the City and County of San Francisco, which may be liable for any constitutional violations found to have been committed by its officials. With anti-Asian hate crimes still on the rise, he fears facing another attack and similar failures in the justice system.
The 69-year-old said the incident has left him with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). He spent 52 weeks in psychiatric therapy, according to court documents.
“Ever since November 2019, I cannot help but picture the attack over and over again. I no longer feel safe walking the streets of our city, as I used to love to do. I look over my shoulder and wonder if there are people who want to hurt me, because I am Asian American,” Lê said.
“Although I was extraordinarily lucky not to have been seriously injured or killed, the attack has left me with a profound and lasting feeling of fear, anxiety, helplessness and hopelessness.”
In a statement, Quyen Ta, a member of Lê’s legal team at King & Spalding, said they are proud to represent the 69-year-old victim.
“We are grateful that the Alliance for Asian American Justice brought this case to our attention. We are proud to represent Mr. Lê, a courageous Vietnamese American hate crime victim who is willing to speak out to ensure that other AAPI hate crimes victims will be treated fairly by the San Francisco DA’s office,” Ta said.
“We look forward to working with the DA’s office to ensure that victims like Mr. Le have a voice in the criminal justice system — including during the sentencing of defendants who have attacked AAPI victims.”
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sugarbabylove
真的头痛。这些左派当道的地方,很多人觉得警察是邪恶的,反而给犯罪分子更多的empathy 话说回来,还是要给视频里的abc大叔大妈们点赞的。
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iheartnyc
如果仅仅以asian hate crime不作为这个理由,那这个诉讼最终会不了了之。
因为要在法庭上要有证据才能定罪, hate crime是一个很难取证的罪名,除非犯罪分子在作案时一边呼喊着反亚裔的口号,一边作案,并且有人录像或者其他人证。否则你怎么证明犯罪份子仇恨亚裔呢? 你不能说一个人打劫了亚裔,就能证明他仇恨亚裔啊,他完全可以狡辩说,他打劫纯粹时是了钱;就像人吃猪肉,牛肉,但是人并不恨猪和牛,人吃猪和牛纯粹是因为人饿了。DA也可以狡辩说,“我没有证据,我也不能起诉别人啊。”
因为Hate Crime难以取证这个特点,Anti Asian Hate Crime, 并不是一个很好的口号,更不是一个好的法律。这个法律/口号,反而转移了舆论的视线,让大家忘了证明Crime本身其实很容易证明,比如刚才说的打劫这个例子,要证明Hate很难,但是要证明打劫这个行为却容易得多。而且打劫/袭击,这类行为本身就可以被定罪。
作为选民,应该督促议员们严格立法,比如加大对抢劫,袭击,砸车这类行为的惩罚力度,还要督促警察,DA们赶紧打击Crime,而不是纠结于Hate Crime。
basic_world 发表于 2022-01-26 17:44

这个不难,把所有被起诉hate crime的和没有被起诉hate crime 拿来对比一下看看对asian有没有明显的标准不同。
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ray_golden
自从加州零元购以后,三番好多cvs walgreen都关门大吉了,因为太多偷东西的。我公婆家旁边的walgreen也刚刚关门了,附近很多老年人拿药都不知道该去哪,加州已经被牛森和harris搞成个笑话。

MegMegMeg 发表于 2022-01-26 13:35

搬出三番啊,周边正常营业的地方多了。
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AlaskaNYC
底下一个评论一针见血 Lulu 8 hours ago This must be the saddest press conference ever. So few “journalists “ attended. See how much the city cares about Asians?
Tagged 发表于 2022-01-26 10:00

犀利。。。。。。。。
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badgerbadger
如果仅仅以asian hate crime不作为这个理由,那这个诉讼最终会不了了之。
因为要在法庭上要有证据才能定罪, hate crime是一个很难取证的罪名,除非犯罪分子在作案时一边呼喊着反亚裔的口号,一边作案,并且有人录像或者其他人证。否则你怎么证明犯罪份子仇恨亚裔呢? 你不能说一个人打劫了亚裔,就能证明他仇恨亚裔啊,他完全可以狡辩说,他打劫纯粹时是了钱;就像人吃猪肉,牛肉,但是人并不恨猪和牛,人吃猪和牛纯粹是因为人饿了。DA也可以狡辩说,“我没有证据,我也不能起诉别人啊。”
因为Hate Crime难以取证这个特点,Anti Asian Hate Crime, 并不是一个很好的口号,更不是一个好的法律。这个法律/口号,反而转移了舆论的视线,让大家忘了证明Crime本身其实很容易证明,比如刚才说的打劫这个例子,要证明Hate很难,但是要证明打劫这个行为却容易得多。而且打劫/袭击,这类行为本身就可以被定罪。
作为选民,应该督促议员们严格立法,比如加大对抢劫,袭击,砸车这类行为的惩罚力度,还要督促警察,DA们赶紧打击Crime,而不是纠结于Hate Crime。
basic_world 发表于 2022-01-26 17:44

Bingo
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wacxg
如果仅仅以asian hate crime不作为这个理由,那这个诉讼最终会不了了之。
因为要在法庭上要有证据才能定罪, hate crime是一个很难取证的罪名,除非犯罪分子在作案时一边呼喊着反亚裔的口号,一边作案,并且有人录像或者其他人证。否则你怎么证明犯罪份子仇恨亚裔呢? 你不能说一个人打劫了亚裔,就能证明他仇恨亚裔啊,他完全可以狡辩说,他打劫纯粹时是了钱;就像人吃猪肉,牛肉,但是人并不恨猪和牛,人吃猪和牛纯粹是因为人饿了。DA也可以狡辩说,“我没有证据,我也不能起诉别人啊。”
因为Hate Crime难以取证这个特点,Anti Asian Hate Crime, 并不是一个很好的口号,更不是一个好的法律。这个法律/口号,反而转移了舆论的视线,让大家忘了证明Crime本身其实很容易证明,比如刚才说的打劫这个例子,要证明Hate很难,但是要证明打劫这个行为却容易得多。而且打劫/袭击,这类行为本身就可以被定罪。
作为选民,应该督促议员们严格立法,比如加大对抢劫,袭击,砸车这类行为的惩罚力度,还要督促警察,DA们赶紧打击Crime,而不是纠结于Hate Crime。
basic_world 发表于 2022-01-26 17:44

白人对黑人犯罪,很容易hate crime.
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andolomeda
这个博徹思,在三番臭名昭著,希望RECALL投票别又咸鱼翻身。索罗斯幕后砸钱支持Progressive DA在多个城市当选, 他的双手沾满了鲜血。
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umizumi
投票机选出来的,我们在三番深蓝选区都没听说过谁要选他,不是做票做出来的才怪。所以人家不在乎recall不在乎抗议。
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bangobunny
这个博徹思,在三番臭名昭著,希望RECALL投票别又咸鱼翻身。索罗斯幕后砸钱支持Progressive DA在多个城市当选, 他的双手沾满了鲜血。
andolomeda 发表于 2022-01-26 20:39


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JohnChan
https://www.singtaousa.com/2022-01-26 布里德與施革發布仇視亞裔犯罪情況。記者彭詩喬攝 (本報記者彭詩喬三藩市報道) 三藩市警察局長施革(Bill Scott)周二宣布,2021年該市針對亞裔的仇視犯罪翻六倍,達到60起,其中一半來自同一被告。 市長布里德、警察局長施革聯同亞太裔社區領袖在邵逸夫夫人長者中心召開記者會。施革指出,2021年針對亞太裔的仇視犯罪報告達到60起,與2020年的9起相比翻了六倍還多,2019年的仇視犯罪數字是8起,「這是很顯著的,非常令人擔憂,也令人警醒。」 施革指出,60起報告中有一半來自同一被告,施革沒有提及這名被告的名字。根據此前報道,地檢署在去年8月起訴了被指砸破數十家華裔商鋪櫥窗的嫌疑人Derik Barreto,共提出33項指控,包括27項惡意破壞和31項仇視犯罪加刑等。 警方不清楚被告現在是否能被關押,三藩縣監獄系統找不到被告名字。根據三藩市高等法院系統,被告下一次出庭時間是1月31日,地點是加州高等法院,而非三藩市高等法院。 施革指出,在許多仇視亞裔案件中警方都及時逮捕了嫌犯,例如被控去年5月在市場街刺傷兩名華裔年長者的湯普森(Patrick Thompson),該案引發高度關注。不過在實際起訴中,地檢署並未加入仇視犯罪指控,地檢官博徹思曾指沒有證據清晰表明被告作案動機與受害人身分有關。 去年9月,市警局還逮捕了被控至少涉及六起針對亞裔女性搶劫案的屋崙市20歲青年O’Sean Garcia。施革還列舉了多宗相關案件,警方都成功逮捕嫌犯。施革指出,「如果任何人認為三藩市是一個容易恐嚇我們亞裔社區的地方,那麼你可悲地想錯了,你會被追究責任,會被逮捕,會被起訴。」 布里德對亞裔社區的遭遇表示心痛、困擾和難堪,「我在三藩市最有挑戰性的環境中長大,如果我的祖母和我們看到的這些亞太裔長者一樣被攻擊,我真的會心碎。」她表示,「但是並沒有發生,因為作為一個社區,我們互相保護。」 安老自助處行政總監鍾月娟、社區青年中心行政總裁溫靜婷等亞太裔社區領袖周二也指出,社區需要市府支持的各種項目。 鍾月娟表示,去年年初針對亞太裔仇視事件增加之時,她向市長要求3萬元緊急資金,開設長者伴護項目,陪同長者外出,目前該項目已經擴展至華埠以外地區,陪同有需要的長者去醫院、銀行或在社區散步,「對與陪伴項目的高需求已經證明,長者生活在疫情引起的恐懼和焦慮之中。」 隨著農曆新年的到來,施革提醒長者不要給陌生人錢或珠寶,不要跟陌生人走或帶陌生人回家,去銀行取錢最好與家人安排同行,如果遇到困難可以吹響之前社區派發的黃色哨子,引起路人注意。施革表示,市警局已經將匿名專線電話415-558-5588擴展至多種語言。 美聯社報道指出,統計數據不能顯示全貌,因為並非所有案件都報告給警方,此外地檢署無法在攻擊者沒有明確聲明偏見的情況下增加仇視犯罪起訴,這令許多相關案件的受害者及家人困擾。
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JohnChan
https://news.yahoo.com/raw-video-san-francisco-mayor-223500939.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
San Francisco Mayor London Breed and Police Chief Bill Scott on Tuesday highlighted a surge in hate crimes against the city's Asian-American and Pacific-Islander (AAPI) communities as seen in new statistics from the police department.
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iheartnyc
三番亚裔人口比例是美国比例最高的吧,选这么个DA只能说是自作自受了
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AlexW
这个消息说只是那个越南老头告,没提三藩亚裔协会。那越南老头有骨气,比华人强多了。 https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-da-chesa-boudin-sued-asian-attack-victim-anti-aapi-hate-crimes
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tiny_pepper
wiki上说这个DA的父母都是罪犯啊 FBI认定的Terrorist group the Weather underground 的成员 他父母被抓以后 他是被这个组织的founders抚养长大的 他妈被释放后在哥大做教授 是哥大center for justice的co-director Boudin向Cuomo求情给他爸减刑 去年底已经parole了 难怪他soft on crime呢!
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bangobunny
我可以理解他为什么想告政府 但是我觉得很难 其实整个moderate democrat field已经在活动 rewrite the rules of hate crimes 现在不声不响上来就干的神经病太多了 这一套不适合了
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littlefat
这个消息说只是那个越南老头告,没提三藩亚裔协会。那越南老头有骨气,比华人强多了。 https://www.foxnews.com/us/san-francisco-da-chesa-boudin-sued-asian-attack-victim-anti-aapi-hate-crimes

AlexW 发表于 2022-01-26 22:22

说是几个亚裔律师牵头的,请大家多多关注
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charis_y
可以做什么具体的事情支持呢?这样的诉讼需要捐款吗?
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littlefat
可以做什么具体的事情支持呢?这样的诉讼需要捐款吗?
charis_y 发表于 2022-01-27 07:09

不求捐款,只求关注转发
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minijing
自从加州零元购以后,三番好多cvs walgreen都关门大吉了,因为太多偷东西的。我公婆家旁边的walgreen也刚刚关门了,附近很多老年人拿药都不知道该去哪,加州已经被牛森和harris搞成个笑话。

MegMegMeg 发表于 2022-01-26 13:35

我要买血糖仪试纸,Google哪家便宜,发现eBay有人卖的最便宜,看了一下这个账户卖的东西,全部是cvs的,因为有很多cvs自家品牌的东西,种类很多,但每样只有几个,包装盒都有破损。卖家加州的,强烈怀疑是0元购的拿出来卖。
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iceblue
支持! 好奇这次吴彦祖是不是有参与?
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awesomeiris
支持。DA太烂,说他们纵容犯罪都不过分
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Ruth
我想说一句,数字说近来仇视亚裔犯罪大增,我的观感并不是以前比现在少很多,少应该是少,但旧金山针对亚裔的犯罪一直就有,公交上打人,公交车站打人,街头打人的案子一直有,只是以前不怎么报道,主流媒体难得报道的时候也不提族裔。中文台新闻报道的时候会提一下受害人族裔,加害人是基本不说的。能报道出来的都是伤害很严重的。 案子增多是让人痛心,但现在引起一些关注也是好的。