昨天鲜花有个人发帖问的，不知道为什么又删帖了，同问，这个是不是事实。搜一下雅虎等还有live interview。 https://heromag.net/mit-researcher-says-children-should-not-receive-covid-vaccines 摘要一下： A researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) said Thursday that parents should do everything they can to avoid giving their children the coronavirus vaccine, and insisted that the potential harm far outweighs the benefits. In an article from 2021 written together with Dr. Greg Nigh, a naturopathic oncologist, and published in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice and Research, Seneff noted that the “unusually rapid movement” of these vaccines through controlled trials and to mass proliferation “raises several safety concerns.” Inadequately studied, the article claimed, the vaccines’ “potential relationship to a wide range of both acute and long-term induced pathologies, such as blood diseases, neurodegenerative diseases and autoimmune diseases”. The accelerated and unprecedented production of the vaccines means that they have no “history and context to fully assess risks, hoped-for benefits, safety and long-term viability as a positive contribution to public health,” the authors said in the 42nd-page article with the title “Worse than the disease? Review of some possible unintended consequences of the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19.”
这么多数据不看，天天问个什么劲。
这个数据是从什么时候开始统计的？
update: 我本来以为这样严谨的医学课题应该有双盲对比试验，结果认真研究了一下发现完全没有。直接选取两组人做对比违反了双盲试验的流程，因为打疫苗和不打疫苗的人本来就是行为方式完全不同的两组人，染病毒风险和吸入量都可能完全不同。 所以CDC的guideline没有同行review过，数据也不能支持结论，不宜作为科学建议引用。
================ 这个是有翔实的临床实验数据的，专业论文也发表在顶级医学杂志，一搜一大堆引用的。
双盲实验有几千个志愿者，一半人注射生理盐水。然后让他们接触病毒。实验证明两组人感染率相近，但是疫苗组重症少。
CDC的各种guideline后面都引用此论文结论。自己搜一下应该很容易。
我同事没打疫苗，还在医院，一度上了呼吸机
打完三针的，一起被传染的同事，一周就好了，就是普通感冒症状
自己掂量
不管具体怎么算的，这是12/20/21前的数据，用omicron刚起步时的数据，来说明omicron大流行时间段的疫苗有效性 更别说死亡有至少三周的延迟，所以这就是用detla的数据佐证疫苗对omicron的有效性 当围观群众没脑子
奇怪了，只有delta那阵我看你们也是天天嚷嚷谁谁谁打了疫苗还是得了delta所以疫苗P用没有啊
等几个月数据出来了，问题是你要赌个啥不？
同认真的问，说实话疫苗有用大家都知道，但对5-11年龄组到底利弊怎么分析还需要好好看看，特别是这一波O
这种事有什么好赌的，你找cdc赌吧
你第一句话是个病句，发现了没
做平行对照 设立两个组 实验组：找6个已经打了疫苗的人 追踪他们 看看他们感染的情况 对照组：再找6个年龄条件类似的 不愿意打疫苗的人 同样追踪他们 看看他们感染的情况 然后对比 做统计检验
唉 后遗症现在谁知道啊 就是疫苗对孩子们以后有没有不好的影响现在也不会知道啊
1/3的剂量， 应该还好吧
叫娃的一般是俄罗斯人吗？
看看英国不打12,岁以下的 如果我有12“岁以下的孩纸不会打 或者只打一针
12以下high risk的孩子可以打好像。 同觉得打一针可行。 过着这波。反正疫苗也就管几个月
最开始说打疫苗就不会得。我早早早就去打了，后来又说是不会重症，这次booster我都不敢打了，听了好多副作用的例子。打算冬眠两个月再看。不过估计还是会去打的。
英国5-11辉瑞不是以及approve了吗？
昨天鲜花有个人发帖问的，不知道为什么又删帖了，同问，这个是不是事实。搜一下雅虎等还有live interview。 https://heromag.net/mit-researcher-says-children-should-not-receive-covid-vaccines 摘要一下： A researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) said Thursday that parents should do everything they can to avoid giving their children the coronavirus vaccine, and insisted that the potential harm far outweighs the benefits. In an article from 2021 written together with Dr. Greg Nigh, a naturopathic oncologist, and published in the peer-reviewed International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practice and Research, Seneff noted that the “unusually rapid movement” of these vaccines through controlled trials and to mass proliferation “raises several safety concerns.” Inadequately studied, the article claimed, the vaccines’ “potential relationship to a wide range of both acute and long-term induced pathologies, such as blood diseases, neurodegenerative diseases and autoimmune diseases”. The accelerated and unprecedented production of the vaccines means that they have no “history and context to fully assess risks, hoped-for benefits, safety and long-term viability as a positive contribution to public health,” the authors said in the 42nd-page article with the title “Worse than the disease? Review of some possible unintended consequences of the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19.”
每次出现这类故事永远都是朋友家的故事，就是没有自家的
你觉得现在能有啥后遗症出现吗？有也是几年后的事情了。这么早就出现了后遗症，那疫苗根本不会通过使用的。
最简单的，看大量接种疫苗和未接种疫苗人群中，各有多少“百分比”重症，多少死亡。 这些能说明疫苗还是有用的。
朋友一家四口打两针，一样症状，一周恢复
还有一个打了第三针，发烧头痛十天，失去味觉，还在进行中。没加重