ibond那个每人每年一万是按照日历年算的吧

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ray_golden
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我看U.S bank的heloc是半年0.99%的rate,是不是5口之家,这个月可以买够今年的5万,明年1月又可以买5万,10万的话相当于白挣最起码3千,如果明年的ibond利息还是7%,相当于挣了5千,而且还免州税
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yolandos
我看U.S bank的heloc是半年0.99%的rate,是不是5口之家,这个月可以买够今年的5万,明年1月又可以买5万,10万的话相当于白挣最起码3千,如果明年的ibond利息还是7%,相当于挣了5千,而且还免州税
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 20:25

Don't forget if you redeem less than 5 years you forfeit last 3 months' interest.
有风吹过窗棂
能不能说一下五口之家怎么买5万啊。我老公开了账户只能买一万, 我要想买,是不是必须自己开账户? 谢谢
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yolandos
能不能说一下五口之家怎么买5万啊。我老公开了账户只能买一万, 我要想买,是不是必须自己开账户? 谢谢
有风吹过窗棂 发表于 2021-12-10 20:41

buy from your hubby''s account and register under your ssn. repeat for each ssn. The limit is actually higher as you can buy another 10K under your trust account in the same year.
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Heiniu
buy from your hubby''s account and register under your ssn. repeat for each ssn. The limit is actually higher as you can buy another 10K under your trust account in the same year.
yolandos 发表于 2021-12-10 20:42

我打电话问了,被告知我老公不能在我的账号下买, 必须自己建立一个账号。
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ray_golden
Don't forget if you redeem less than 5 years you forfeit last 3 months' interest.
yolandos 发表于 2021-12-10 20:31

我估计ibond能维持高息也就这一两年,后面的利息估计跟Heloc接近或者更低,ibond过了一年好像就可以拿到利息,那时候三个月息本来也不高了,具体还是看利差情况,不行去银行拿个开checking奖励再还回去
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ray_golden
能不能说一下五口之家怎么买5万啊。我老公开了账户只能买一万, 我要想买,是不是必须自己开账户? 谢谢
有风吹过窗棂 发表于 2021-12-10 20:41

我只存了自己的,但是都说限制在ssn。现在马上年底,想想是利用额度的好时机
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Shudongtucao
我看U.S bank的heloc是半年0.99%的rate,是不是5口之家,这个月可以买够今年的5万,明年1月又可以买5万,10万的话相当于白挣最起码3千,如果明年的ibond利息还是7%,相当于挣了5千,而且还免州税
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 20:25

小孩不过18岁是不是只能买$5000 paper?
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yolandos
我打电话问了,被告知我老公不能在我的账号下买, 必须自己建立一个账号。
Heiniu 发表于 2021-12-10 20:59

You probably didn't ask the right question. He can buy another 10K under his account and gift it to you. You will eventually need to open your own account then he can do the transfer. But you can open your account 10 years later, there is no deadline.
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mathishard
我估计ibond能维持高息也就这一两年,后面的利息估计跟Heloc接近或者更低,ibond过了一年好像就可以拿到利息,那时候三个月息本来也不高了,具体还是看利差情况,不行去银行拿个开checking奖励再还回去
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 21:01

你可以去网站上看它以前的利息,过去好几年都是起码7%,现在通胀高了,应该更高
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yolandos
我估计ibond能维持高息也就这一两年,后面的利息估计跟Heloc接近或者更低,ibond过了一年好像就可以拿到利息,那时候三个月息本来也不高了,具体还是看利差情况,不行去银行拿个开checking奖励再还回去
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 21:01

yeah. if the last 3 month interest become zero then there really is no penalty. Happend many months in the past.
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ray_golden
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我看是18以下也可以electronic bond,这应该是也能买一万吧?
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yolandos
小孩不过18岁是不是只能买$5000 paper?
Shudongtucao 发表于 2021-12-10 21:03

10K each SSN. you can buy under your own treasury direct and gift to them to your kids and the kids can then open their own account when they turn 18.
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yolandos
你可以去网站上看它以前的利息,过去好几年都是起码7%,现在通胀高了,应该更高
mathishard 发表于 2021-12-10 21:06

That's not correct. No where near 7%. ibond interest's fix rate has been pretty much zero or close to zero and the float rate resets evey 6 month depending on CPI. I can asure you past several years it was no where near even 5%, unless you are talking about those you bought 20 years ago where the fixed rate was at 3.x%
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ray_golden
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没错,也就这次通胀数据高了突然利息高了。
inflation rate半年后能不能维持7%都不好说,我记得heloc 利息是一年一调整,所以有可能保持个利差
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Shudongtucao
10K each SSN. you can buy under your own treasury direct and gift to them to your kids and the kids can then open their own account when they turn 18.
yolandos 发表于 2021-12-10 21:09

给孩子买的在transfer给他之前可以cash out吗?
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yolandos
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没错,也就这次通胀数据高了突然利息高了。
inflation rate半年后能不能维持7%都不好说,我记得heloc 利息是一年一调整,所以有可能保持个利差
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 21:16

HELOC rate floats with prime rate. They can adjust multiple times during a year if prime rate adjusts multiple times a year.
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yolandos
给孩子买的在transfer给他之前可以cash out吗?
Shudongtucao 发表于 2021-12-10 21:18

I have not done any redemption on treasury direct. I lost interest when they dropped the limit from 30K to 10K and got rid of paper ibond. I only started buying again last year. I would think they will allow kids'' ibond to be redeemed without opening their own treasury direct account. I have done kid''s paper ibond redemption before, just walk into any bank and deposit into checking account but for treasury direct''s digital ibond you need to file form 1522 and mail it in. From what I understand kids'' will be primary owner and a parent will be a secondary owner so you should be able to redeem kids'' ibond too (you will need to pay the tax). Don''t take my words for it, though. Please call them and ask to get a confirmation.
buy on the last day of a month (you get the whole month''s interest) and redeem on the first day of the month (you also get the whole month''s interest).
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monfay
可以给小孩买,在自己的账号下可以建/link 一个minor 的账号。
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Cleveland
我想问一下,这个是保本的吧?
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mathishard
That's not correct. No where near 7%. ibond interest's fix rate has been pretty much zero or close to zero and the float rate resets evey 6 month depending on CPI. I can asure you past several years it was no where near even 5%, unless you are talking about those you bought 20 years ago where the fixed rate was at 3.x%
yolandos 发表于 2021-12-10 21:11

you are incorrect. Look at the last table of below. 7-10% annually.
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/res_ibonds_iratesandterms.htm#past
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mathishard
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没错,也就这次通胀数据高了突然利息高了。
inflation rate半年后能不能维持7%都不好说,我记得heloc 利息是一年一调整,所以有可能保持个利差
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 21:16

You looked at the wrong table. Interest rate for I bond is at bottom. Fed is raising rate, inflation is going up. I bond rate should go higher
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yolandos
you are incorrect. Look at the last table of below. 7-10% annually.
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/res_ibonds_iratesandterms.htm#past
mathishard 发表于 2021-12-10 21:41

Last table showed how much those bond bought in the past (first column was the year bond was bought and assume you still have them now) will be paying now. If you have bought in 2015, for an example, your current rate will be at 7.12% but they would have been paid close to zero from 2015-2020, no where near even 5% because except for those very early years around 2000, the past 15 years the ibond fixed rate had been close to 0%.
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ray_golden
You looked at the wrong table. Interest rate for I bond is at bottom. Fed is raising rate, inflation is going up. I bond rate should go higher
mathishard 发表于 2021-12-10 21:49



最下面是是以前存的ibond现在的利息,因为今年inflation的rate高了,才导致以前基准利息高的ibond也高了。

长期投资还是大盘etf,只是现在股市涨这么久了,实在没法一下子都进股市,所以这一两年买ibond相对没风险
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yolandos
You looked at the wrong table. Interest rate for I bond is at bottom. Fed is raising rate, inflation is going up. I bond rate should go higher
mathishard 发表于 2021-12-10 21:49

I don''''t look up tables. I own tons of ibond in the past and still a lot even now (my emergency cash reserve) so I know the rate for the past 15 years. your statement: "你可以去网站上看它以前的利息,过去好几年都是起码7%..." is misleading at the least.
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mathishard
I don''''t look up tables. I own tons of ibond in the past and still a lot even now (my emergency cash reserve) so I know the rate for the past 15 years. your statement: "你可以去网站上看它以前的利息,过去好几年都是起码7%..." is misleading at the least.
yolandos 发表于 2021-12-10 22:10

Looked it again. You are right. It’s mot as good as it seems then. Bummer. When something is too good to be true, it is
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snowwhiter
you are incorrect. Look at the last table of below. 7-10% annually.
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/res_ibonds_iratesandterms.htm#past
mathishard 发表于 2021-12-10 21:41


Ibond这几年rate都很低的,就11月份开始这半年高,前半年也只有3.xx%,再早1点多。
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Lxh
我看U.S bank的heloc是半年0.99%的rate,是不是5口之家,这个月可以买够今年的5万,明年1月又可以买5万,10万的话相当于白挣最起码3千,如果明年的ibond利息还是7%,相当于挣了5千,而且还免州税
ray_golden 发表于 2021-12-10 20:25

半年0.99是一年1.98%?这个是不是很快就要涨了?
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ray_golden
半年0.99是一年1.98%?这个是不是很快就要涨了?
Lxh 发表于 2021-12-10 23:52

正常是3.x%,经常有开户给半年的优惠,0.99%,之后恢复到正常rate。
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ccang1234
我打电话问了,被告知我老公不能在我的账号下买, 必须自己建立一个账号。
Heiniu 发表于 2021-12-10 20:59

你的kid 能在你帐号下买
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hellok38
考虑用孩子名字买的看过来:
Buy I Bonds in Your Kid’s Name: You Can, But Should You?
https://thefinancebuff.com/buy-i-bonds-kids-name.html
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vanny886
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这个我觉得孩子自己付学费,不免税那个很奇怪哎,irs说给自己,spouse,dependent付高等教育学费是免税的,为啥孩子的账号说不行?他们给自己付的学费啊! 当然优先存自己和配偶的,小孩的如果是付学费肯定529好,但是别的呢?比如孩子成年以后要买房子,那你一年只能给3w,多少年才能攒够首付哦……
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hellok38
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这个我觉得孩子自己付学费,不免税那个很奇怪哎,irs说给自己,spouse,dependent付高等教育学费是免税的,为啥孩子的账号说不行?他们给自己付的学费啊! 当然优先存自己和配偶的,小孩的如果是付学费肯定529好,但是别的呢?比如孩子成年以后要买房子,那你一年只能给3w,多少年才能攒够首付哦……
vanny886 发表于 2021-12-11 13:05

付大学学费免税需要买的时候满24岁,所以孩子的账号不行。买房子可以,不免税,但是需要孩子成熟自律留着这些钱付首付,看父母吹耳边风教育的效果了。