一直没有搞明白 backdoor roth, Mega backdoor roth and after tax 401k

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superfresh
楼主 (北美华人网)
我的理解是收入超过一定限制,不能存 regular roth,所以每年只能存 $6000/person backdoor roth。那 Mega backdoor roth 又是怎么回事呢?  after tax 401k 是必须 employer 提供这个福利才可以。然后每年 before and after tax 401K 以及公司 match 总和 不超过 $62000。
backdoor roth, Mega backdoor roth and after tax 401k 都是存进去的是税后的钱,好处就是收益不收税。
不知道我的理解对吗?明白的人指点一下吧。
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gzhsyw
你的理解是对的。Mega back door 就是把after tax 401k转成 roth ira。存after tax 401k一般就是为了转成roth ira。(不过我比较懒就放在roth 401k里)大家平时说这两个名词的时候 你可以认为是指同一件事情。
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legendleo
你的理解基本正确,除了最后关于401kAfter-Tax部分。Backdoor Roth 特指IRA转到Roth;mega backdoor Roth是指把401k After-tax contribution 转成Roth,前提是你公司的401k允许你放税后的钱,并允许转到Roth401k. 转成Roth后的收益就不需要交税了。 401k After-Tax的收益是要交税的,只有转到Roth才会不收税。很多公司的401k计划允许你设定新投到税后401k的自动转到Roth - 你需要确定并把这个自动转换设置好。
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111222xy
那存401K 比 “Mega back door 就是把after tax 401k转成 roth ira” 有什么好处吗
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leavingsmile
回复 4楼111222xy的帖子
上面那位提了,就是401里面赚到的要交税,Roth 赚到的不交税。
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jessneko
话说啥时候能有个准信明年mega和backdoor还行不行
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lollidolli
回复 1楼superfresh的帖子
今年的401k total annual contribution limit 是58k. Personal IRA (or backdoor Roth) 还可以再存6k. 总和是$64,000
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blackfriday9
也是不太明白,看网上介绍,backdoor roth是说先存钱到traditional IRA account,然后再从这里convert到Roth IRA。问题是traditional IRA也是有收入限制的啊?对于有401K的收入超过limit的怎么存traditional IRA?
IRS网站上是这么说的: Here are the traditional IRA phase-out ranges for 2021: $66,000 to $76,000 – Single taxpayers covered by a workplace retirement plan. $105,000 to $125,000 – Married couples filing jointly. This applies when the spouse making the IRA contribution is covered by a workplace retirement plan. $198,000 to $208,000 – A taxpayer not covered by a workplace retirement plan married to someone who's covered. $0 to $10,000 – Married filing a separate return. This applies to taxpayers covered by a workplace retirement plan.

周瑜
很多公司的401k计划允许你设定新投到After tax 401k的自动转到Roth 401K。这一步我懂,但是怎么把Roth 401K转为Roth IRA呢?
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purplebasil
很多公司的401k计划允许你设定新投到After tax 401k的自动转到Roth 401K。这一步我懂,但是怎么把Roth 401K转为Roth IRA呢?
周瑜 发表于 2021-12-30 13:19

换工作的时候,可以把ROTH 401K转到ROTH IRA
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purplebasil
也是不太明白,看网上介绍,backdoor roth是说先存钱到traditional IRA account,然后再从这里convert到Roth IRA。问题是traditional IRA也是有收入限制的啊?对于有401K的收入超过limit的怎么存traditional IRA?
IRS网站上是这么说的: Here are the traditional IRA phase-out ranges for 2021: $66,000 to $76,000 – Single taxpayers covered by a workplace retirement plan. $105,000 to $125,000 – Married couples filing jointly. This applies when the spouse making the IRA contribution is covered by a workplace retirement plan. $198,000 to $208,000 – A taxpayer not covered by a workplace retirement plan married to someone who's covered. $0 to $10,000 – Married filing a separate return. This applies to taxpayers covered by a workplace retirement plan.


blackfriday9 发表于 2021-12-30 01:18

我记得是收入在某个数字以下,你的IRA contribution 是 tax deferred 的,取的时候才交税,如果高于这个数字,你仍然可以放6000,但是不能延迟交税。
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blackfriday9
我用turbotax报税时都不让我存traditional IRA的, 说我不qualify。 还是说我报税时不填这个,反正后面也是要交税转到Roth IRA的?但是IRA administrator还是会出1099-R表来distribute from traditional IRA to Roth IRA, 不知道这个怎么操作?还是说如果用的税后的钱他们不会出这个表?