小扎参与亲身示范了!Meta母公司发布的那个元宇宙触觉手套

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badgerbadger
现实和模拟的界限越来越模糊了
generalB
在面瘫世界里小渣说谎也没关系
mise88
幫我撐十秒
Ann2021
近期股票还是没啥变动啊~~
pops
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
Ann2021
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

猜想: 地球资源不够, 让一部分人进入虚拟世界醉生梦死。 现实世界变成有钱人的区域。
lvyw
鸡肋
pops
近期股票还是没啥变动啊~~
Ann2021 发表于 2021-11-19 21:10

RBLX 都冲得失去理智了,投资者的未来梦想就是游戏人生。
heartinny
回复 2楼badgerbadger的帖子
你现实世界里有飘在空气里的手?
果小小
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

旧的产业不去,新的产业不来,就是科技的发展对人类社会的影响。虚拟世界可以让人们缩短距离,节省时间
pops
旧的产业不去,新的产业不来,就是科技的发展对人类社会的影响。虚拟世界可以让人们缩短距离,节省时间
果小小 发表于 2021-11-19 21:29

开个摄像头电脑通话就可以缩短距离了,为什么还要一起玩游戏?
San1ba4
鸡肋
lvyw 发表于 2021-11-19 21:16

垃圾 我可以做的比这个好
ocmom
就想知道对virtual 三陪行业有什么影响。。LOL。。。virtual 按摩?
Huanmin
天天带个这个东西玩会头痛想吐吧。
pops
不懂就问: 一楼的那一套跟几年前的Xbox 游戏有什么本质区别?感觉都是motion control 啊。 之所以说几年前是因为我怀上老大后就彻底不玩了,不清楚现在发展到什么程度了。
果小小
开个摄像头电脑通话就可以缩短距离了,为什么还要一起玩游戏?
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:32

你没有远程玩游戏的需求不等于别人没有啊。再说了,这项技术再发展发展又不是仅仅只用来玩游戏,可以利用的多了,比如远程手术,远程做饭,远程打扫卫生,远程修理,远程爱爱。。。。哈哈
huangs
要它有何用
r
ray_golden
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

现在人人都要住sfh,还得3000呎起步。以后给个笼子就够了,戴着vr眼镜找着自己住豪宅的感觉,首先解决了可负担房屋的问题
r
ray_golden
就想知道对virtual 三陪行业有什么影响。。LOL。。。virtual 按摩?
ocmom 发表于 2021-11-19 21:36

不是给你手套了吗
pops
你没有远程玩游戏的需求不等于别人没有啊。再说了,这项技术再发展发展又不是仅仅只用来玩游戏,可以利用的多了,比如远程手术,远程做饭,远程打扫卫生,远程修理,远程爱爱。。。。哈哈
果小小 发表于 2021-11-19 21:46

远程手术这个我懂一点,算 robotic surgery, 3D navigation仪器需要FDA clearance. 绝对不是弯曲码公的强项,不在metaverse的范畴。
你列的几项 远程做饭/打扫/修理用的都是 robotics,跟metaverse 是两回事。你把这两个混成一谈了吧。
superfan3
怎么我看着密恐
Dida123
小扎都这么发福了
果小小
远程手术这个我懂一点,算 robotic surgery, 3D navigation仪器需要FDA clearance. 绝对不是弯曲码公的强项,不在metaverse的范畴。
你列的几项 远程做饭/打扫/修理用的都是 robotics,跟metaverse 是两回事。你把这两个混成一谈了吧。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 22:02

跨领域科技不可以有?科技的突破创新都是促进人类发展的。守着现成没有突破永远发展不了
pops
跨领域科技不可以有?科技的突破创新都是促进人类发展的。守着现成没有突破永远发展不了
果小小 发表于 2021-11-19 23:04

你不会以为 metaverse 代表了整个科技业了吧。上面跟robotics 搞混,后面又以点代面。
果小小
你不会以为 metaverse 代表了整个科技业了吧。上面跟robotics 搞混,后面又以点代面。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 23:08

我觉得你好搞笑啊,请问你是如何解读出我觉得这个代表整个科技的?
我是觉得这个可以结合别的科技做出更多创新。现在这么多科技发展都是跨领域多领域技术,你当你这划分国界呢
只有你这样的思维才会觉得这种技术只能被用来玩游戏吧,而且还因为你不玩游戏就觉得没必要发展。都是像你这样的人的话,人类科技会永远停滞不前的
pops
我觉得你好搞笑啊,请问你是如何解读出我觉得这个代表整个科技的?
我是觉得这个可以结合别的科技做出更多创新。现在这么多科技发展都是跨领域多领域技术,你当你这划分国界呢
只有你这样的思维才会觉得这种技术只能被用来玩游戏吧,而且还因为你不玩游戏就觉得没必要发展。都是像你这样的人的话,人类科技会永远停滞不前的
果小小 发表于 2021-11-19 23:22

我起码还知道mateverse 带动云游戏产业。你倒是连一个有直接关系的例子都举不出来,直接就来什么“我觉得”,什么跨国跨领域领导人类科技了。就你这能力,还 advocate 什么mateverse。估计你连mateverse 是什么都不知道。
果小小
我起码还知道mateverse 带动云游戏产业。你倒是连一个有直接关系的例子都举不出来,直接就来什么“我觉得”,什么跨国跨领域领导人类科技了。就你这能力,还 advocate 什么mateverse。估计你连mateverse 是什么都不知道。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 23:48

https://www.sagentiainnovation.com/insights/what-does-the-metaverse-hold-for-healthcare/


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What does the metaverse hold for healthcare? 04 November, 2021
Many large tech firms believe the metaverse will be the next big thing. But what is it, and what could it mean for the healthcare sector? Sagentia Innovation’s Paulo Pinheiro, Head of Software, considers the potential of this virtual space. There is a huge amount of excitement surrounding the metaverse at present. However, while the term is far from new, it is still just a concept without a universally agreed definition. What is the metaverse? It’s generally believed that the term ‘metaverse’ originated in the 1992 science fiction novel Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. The world depicted in the novel portrays humans as avatars interacting with each other and software agents in a 3D virtual space. Most people envision the metaverse as a virtual space entered using a headset. It would connect various digital environments that could be used for everything from work to leisure activities like concerts, cinema trips or just hanging out.  This presents significant opportunities for virtual reality (VR) and augmented reality (AR) to become more mainstream. The metaverse will be to VR and AR what the modern smartphones were to the first mobile phones a few decades ago. VR and AR technology has seen immense progress in recent years. High-end headsets can cleverly trick the human eye into seeing in 3D as animations move around in a virtual world. Another advancement is the roll out of 5G which will enable a more consistent and connected dynamic digital world on the move. Nobody wants to be left behind if VR turns out to be the future of the internet. Wealthy investors and large tech firms believe the metaverse could be the next big thing, and they are keen to be part of it. Metaverse trailblazers Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in July that the company aims to transition from being a social media company to a metaverse company in the next five years or so. In October, Facebook Inc rebranded as Meta. Games company Roblox which debuted on the New York Stock Exchange in March, describes itself as a metaverse company. In September millions of people watched singer Ariana Grande perform virtually in Fortnite according to Epic Games. Nvidia, which designs graphics processing units for the gaming and professional markets, has announced the launch of Omniverse, described as a metaverse for engineers. It will be available as an enterprise service later this year. For now, everything is in the early stages. The evolution of the metaverse - if it happens at all - will play out between tech giants for the next decade, or maybe even longer. Nevertheless, there are early signs that healthcare could benefit from joining the metaverse; VR along with its cousin AR (augmented reality) are already having an impact on the sector.  How VR and AR are infiltrating healthcare New and disruptive technologies based on AR and VR are emerging to improve medical education and training as well as processes and procedures. Medical learning and training  VR is used in the training of doctors and medical staff to take learners within the human body, providing a 360° view of ailments or replicating real-world procedures.  Medical schools are also beginning to incorporate AR into the curriculum to provide students with valuable opportunities for hands-on learning. AR programs are used to simulate patient and surgical encounters, allowing medical students to visualise and practice new techniques. Further still, immersive experiences could be recreated from real surgeries where students will sense and feel the replayed real surgery as if they were the surgeon themselves. It is not inconceivable that the metaverse could also become the first training ground for the next generation of surgical robots where via Artificial Intelligence, surgical robots would learn how to operate surgeries on humans. Surgical procedures and pre/post-surgery assessments Building on the existing use of surgical robots, more complicated surgeries are set to make increasing use of AR. Potential applications range from the removal of cancerous tumors to performing complicated spinal surgery. These developments will further enhance surgical precision and flexibility for complex procedures. Already AR is providing surgical staff with new ways of accessing information that is more compatible with surgical workflows and the sterile field of the operating room, for example real-time guidance is provided in the surgeon’s field of view of the surgical site through integration with surgical navigation systems and fusion of data from multiple imaging sources. Pre-surgery and post-surgery assessments can also benefit from the use of AR to optimise surgical outcomes with more personalised intervention rooted in data analytics. Wellness, fitness and quality of life  Gamification – the use of game mechanics in non-game environments – offers new ways to connect healthcare providers and patients. Its use in healthcare scenarios is largely restricted to wellness and fitness apps at present, for instance AR is used to deliver smarter workouts with guidance from virtual instructors.  It’s also been shown that VR can help improve quality of life for people with dementia. One study equipped patients with a VR headset to ‘visit’ one of five virtual environments, including a cathedral and a sandy beach. After 16 monitored sessions, researchers found the patients were better able to retrieve old memories, which improved mood and provided positive mental stimulation. Is the future of healthcare in the metaverse? Solutions involving VR and AR are already improving patient experiences and outcomes. Even simple procedures such as intravenous injections and blood draws can benefit from technologies like that from Accuvein which projects a map of a patient’s veins onto the skin. More recently, Medtronic acquired the company Digital Surgery and Zimmer Biomet announced OptiVu™ Mixed Reality which leverages the Microsoft HoloLens to merge real and virtual worlds. The investments being made by these large medtech companies, combined with a growing number of startups developing AR and VR solutions, illustrates the way the surgical environment may change in the coming years. Another example is Veyond Metaverse which brings global healthcare professionals together for simultaneous education, training and planning as well as collaborative medical procedures. According to the company website, it uses advanced cloud and real-time communication technology to “empower clinicians to practice their skills with the utmost precision to ensure everyone receives the best healthcare delivery anytime and anywhere.” Whether this will result in healthcare joining the metaverse remains to be seen. However, anyone who has used a digital avatar at a work meeting or virtual event has already had a taste of what the future might hold. And we’re already seeing the creation of metaverse platforms geared towards the healthcare space. While the metaverse is still in its infancy, it holds tremendous potential for the transformation and improvement of healthcare. It will be fascinating to watch the situation unfold.

我觉得你这人真挺有意思的,不懂的这么理直气壮,思维局限的这么极端也是少有了
huahua898
很邪恶但不妨碍我买了股票,哈哈,拿这种傻帽的钱补贴我的特斯拉
huahua898
近期股票还是没啥变动啊~~
Ann2021 发表于 2021-11-19 21:10

我买后第二天涨了一丢丢
huahua898
你没有远程玩游戏的需求不等于别人没有啊。再说了,这项技术再发展发展又不是仅仅只用来玩游戏,可以利用的多了,比如远程手术,远程做饭,远程打扫卫生,远程修理,远程爱爱。。。。哈哈
果小小 发表于 2021-11-19 21:46

等这个能做到远程手术的水平机器人医生早就有了
huahua898
远程手术这个我懂一点,算 robotic surgery, 3D navigation仪器需要FDA clearance. 绝对不是弯曲码公的强项,不在metaverse的范畴。
你列的几项 远程做饭/打扫/修理用的都是 robotics,跟metaverse 是两回事。你把这两个混成一谈了吧。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 22:02

天呢,我真是合适科学这行,我推出来的也是这些
果小小
等这个能做到远程手术的水平机器人医生早就有了
huahua898 发表于 2021-11-20 00:04

这个可以improve 现有的技术
huahua898
这个可以improve 现有的技术
果小小 发表于 2021-11-20 00:07

我的脑子里有科学蓝图,musk的才叫未来,吼吼
pops
https://www.sagentiainnovation.com/insights/what-does-the-metaverse-hold-for-healthcare/


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What does the metaverse hold for healthcare? 04 November, 2021
Many large tech firms believe the metaverse will be the next big thing. But what is it, and what could it mean for the healthcare sector? Sagentia Innovation’s Paulo Pinheiro, Head of Software, considers the potential of this virtual space. There is a huge amount of excitement surrounding the metaverse at present. However, while the term is far from new, it is still just a concept without a universally agreed definition. What is the metaverse? It’s generally believed that the term ‘metaverse’ originated in the 1992 science fiction novel Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. The world depicted in the novel portrays humans as avatars interacting with each other and software agents in a 3D virtual space. Most people envision the metaverse as a virtual space entered using a headset. It would connect various digital environments that could be used for everything from work to leisure activities like concerts, cinema trips or just hanging out.  This presents significant opportunities for virtual reality (VR) and augmented reality (AR) to become more mainstream. The metaverse will be to VR and AR what the modern smartphones were to the first mobile phones a few decades ago. VR and AR technology has seen immense progress in recent years. High-end headsets can cleverly trick the human eye into seeing in 3D as animations move around in a virtual world. Another advancement is the roll out of 5G which will enable a more consistent and connected dynamic digital world on the move. Nobody wants to be left behind if VR turns out to be the future of the internet. Wealthy investors and large tech firms believe the metaverse could be the next big thing, and they are keen to be part of it. Metaverse trailblazers Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in July that the company aims to transition from being a social media company to a metaverse company in the next five years or so. In October, Facebook Inc rebranded as Meta. Games company Roblox which debuted on the New York Stock Exchange in March, describes itself as a metaverse company. In September millions of people watched singer Ariana Grande perform virtually in Fortnite according to Epic Games. Nvidia, which designs graphics processing units for the gaming and professional markets, has announced the launch of Omniverse, described as a metaverse for engineers. It will be available as an enterprise service later this year. For now, everything is in the early stages. The evolution of the metaverse - if it happens at all - will play out between tech giants for the next decade, or maybe even longer. Nevertheless, there are early signs that healthcare could benefit from joining the metaverse; VR along with its cousin AR (augmented reality) are already having an impact on the sector.  How VR and AR are infiltrating healthcare New and disruptive technologies based on AR and VR are emerging to improve medical education and training as well as processes and procedures. Medical learning and training  VR is used in the training of doctors and medical staff to take learners within the human body, providing a 360° view of ailments or replicating real-world procedures.  Medical schools are also beginning to incorporate AR into the curriculum to provide students with valuable opportunities for hands-on learning. AR programs are used to simulate patient and surgical encounters, allowing medical students to visualise and practice new techniques. Further still, immersive experiences could be recreated from real surgeries where students will sense and feel the replayed real surgery as if they were the surgeon themselves. It is not inconceivable that the metaverse could also become the first training ground for the next generation of surgical robots where via Artificial Intelligence, surgical robots would learn how to operate surgeries on humans. Surgical procedures and pre/post-surgery assessments Building on the existing use of surgical robots, more complicated surgeries are set to make increasing use of AR. Potential applications range from the removal of cancerous tumors to performing complicated spinal surgery. These developments will further enhance surgical precision and flexibility for complex procedures. Already AR is providing surgical staff with new ways of accessing information that is more compatible with surgical workflows and the sterile field of the operating room, for example real-time guidance is provided in the surgeon’s field of view of the surgical site through integration with surgical navigation systems and fusion of data from multiple imaging sources. Pre-surgery and post-surgery assessments can also benefit from the use of AR to optimise surgical outcomes with more personalised intervention rooted in data analytics. Wellness, fitness and quality of life  Gamification – the use of game mechanics in non-game environments – offers new ways to connect healthcare providers and patients. Its use in healthcare scenarios is largely restricted to wellness and fitness apps at present, for instance AR is used to deliver smarter workouts with guidance from virtual instructors.  It’s also been shown that VR can help improve quality of life for people with dementia. One study equipped patients with a VR headset to ‘visit’ one of five virtual environments, including a cathedral and a sandy beach. After 16 monitored sessions, researchers found the patients were better able to retrieve old memories, which improved mood and provided positive mental stimulation. Is the future of healthcare in the metaverse? Solutions involving VR and AR are already improving patient experiences and outcomes. Even simple procedures such as intravenous injections and blood draws can benefit from technologies like that from Accuvein which projects a map of a patient’s veins onto the skin. More recently, Medtronic acquired the company Digital Surgery and Zimmer Biomet announced OptiVu™ Mixed Reality which leverages the Microsoft HoloLens to merge real and virtual worlds. The investments being made by these large medtech companies, combined with a growing number of startups developing AR and VR solutions, illustrates the way the surgical environment may change in the coming years. Another example is Veyond Metaverse which brings global healthcare professionals together for simultaneous education, training and planning as well as collaborative medical procedures. According to the company website, it uses advanced cloud and real-time communication technology to “empower clinicians to practice their skills with the utmost precision to ensure everyone receives the best healthcare delivery anytime and anywhere.” Whether this will result in healthcare joining the metaverse remains to be seen. However, anyone who has used a digital avatar at a work meeting or virtual event has already had a taste of what the future might hold. And we’re already seeing the creation of metaverse platforms geared towards the healthcare space. While the metaverse is still in its infancy, it holds tremendous potential for the transformation and improvement of healthcare. It will be fascinating to watch the situation unfold.

我觉得你这人真挺有意思的,不懂的这么理直气壮,思维局限的这么极端也是少有了

果小小 发表于 2021-11-19 23:59

你也是够stubborn的,还从网上找这么一大段,您能用你自己的话总结一下讲的是什么么?
我真的是没耐心看,就扫里一眼看到关键字 “Medtronic acquired the company Digital Surgery and Zimmer Biomet announced OptiVu™ Mixed Reality which leverages the Microsoft HoloLens”, 刚好我对这两个deal非常熟,,并参与过其中一个。这绝对跟小扎的技术没有一分钱关系。
果小小
你也是够stubborn的,还从网上找这么一大段,您能用你自己的话总结一下讲的是什么么?
我真的是没耐心看,就扫里一眼看到关键字 “Medtronic acquired the company Digital Surgery and Zimmer Biomet announced OptiVu™ Mixed Reality which leverages the Microsoft HoloLens”, 刚好我对这两个deal非常熟,,并参与过其中一个。这绝对跟小扎的技术没有一分钱关系。
pops 发表于 2021-11-20 00:08

明白了,您这是怕被抢了饭碗,怪不得生怕别人的技术踏入这个领域呢。但是你只不过这世界上一粒沙,还能挡住人类科技向前发展的脚步?一项新的技术研发大家肯定要探索可以应用的领域,只会给人类带来更多便利。既然没耐心看就别下那么可笑的结论,既无知又stubborn还不虚心学习
pops
等这个能做到远程手术的水平机器人医生早就有了
huahua898 发表于 2021-11-20 00:04

就是,mixed reality 都做多久了,4D的产品FDA都approve了。小札最近才宣布转型蹭热度。
aroll
天天带个这个东西玩会头痛想吐吧。
Huanmin 发表于 2021-11-19 21:37

必然会
果小小
就是,mixed reality 都做多久了,4D的产品FDA都approve了。小札最近才宣布转型蹭热度。
pops 发表于 2021-11-20 00:18

只要做出来可以提高现有技术就是对人类做贡献,管入场早晚呢,入场早的跟不上发展也会被淘汰
pops
明白了,您这是怕被抢了饭碗,怪不得生怕别人的技术踏入这个领域呢。但是你只不过这世界上一粒沙,还能挡住人类科技向前发展的脚步?一项新的技术研发大家肯定要探索可以应用的领域,只会给人类带来更多便利。既然没耐心看就别下那么可笑的结论,既无知又stubborn还不虚心学习
果小小 发表于 2021-11-20 00:14

我做的是万金油的M&A, 从来不怕新技术,怕的就是没技术(当然也不是我的钱).
你不但stubbon, 还 ignorant 外加 judgemental. 不跟你废话了,浪费时间。
linkinc
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

人是理解不了认知以外的世界的。你怎么确认我们现在所谓的现实不是虚拟的?
现在这个所谓“现实”的世界 不是一个Matrix 或者 梦境中的一层?
在虚拟的世界再进入一层虚拟 有什么不可? 再进入一层时间和空间的扩大 有什么坏处?
看看电影 Ready Player One, Matrix ,inception ... 人类进入下一层维度 势不可挡 迟早而已,谁推动的都不 重要
huahua898
只要做出来可以提高现有技术就是对人类做贡献,管入场早晚呢,入场早的跟不上发展也会被淘汰
果小小 发表于 2021-11-20 00:22

等做出来就是被淘汰的品种,还有什么意义啊,这个概念其实很落后的,听着很fancy而已。不要投入太多感情,认真炒股不香吗?太认真很容易把自己也炒进去的
huahua898
人是理解不了认知以外的世界的。你怎么确认我们现在所谓的现实不是虚拟的?
现在这个所谓“现实”的世界 不是一个Matrix 或者 梦境中的一层?
在虚拟的世界再进入一层虚拟 有什么不可? 再进入一层时间和空间的扩大 有什么坏处?
看看电影 Ready Player One, Matrix ,inception ... 人类进入下一层维度 势不可挡 迟早而已,谁推动的都不 重要
linkinc 发表于 2021-11-20 00:27

额,那人类就是悲惨世界哦……ready player one里的人类现实环境怕是我们华人大妈们都要哭死的,妥妥贫民窟阿,要靠虚拟世界买醉
果小小
等做出来就是被淘汰的品种,还有什么意义啊,这个概念其实很落后的,听着很fancy而已。不要投入太多感情,认真炒股不香吗?太认真很容易把自己也炒进去的
huahua898 发表于 2021-11-20 00:29

你和楼上那位一样,思维局限的厉害。那位觉得这项技术只能用来做游戏,然后因为她自己不玩游戏,最后下结论这个技术没啥用。。。
这项技术用在医疗行业是大家正在探索的,成功的话可以提高现有的技术。除了医疗,还有很多远程可以操作的领域都在研究和探索中。
我们都在聊人类的科技发话题,没人耽误你炒股
h
haowawa
看着挺好玩的
huahua898
你和楼上那位一样,思维局限的厉害。那位觉得这项技术只能用来做游戏,然后因为她自己不玩游戏,最后下结论这个技术没啥用。。。
这项技术用在医疗行业是大家正在探索的,成功的话可以提高现有的技术。除了医疗,还有很多远程可以操作的领域都在研究和探索中。
我们都在聊人类的科技发话题,没人耽误你炒股
果小小 发表于 2021-11-20 00:35

嗯,就你思维最发散,我这个已经在火星遨游的都比不过你呀
futures
这是一个mit的abc phd业余搞的,当年一直找不到应用,实际也实在没啥用处。后来robert wang的公司被oculus收了,然后几年就变成fb的主概念了,真是搞笑
pops
你和楼上那位一样,思维局限的厉害。那位觉得这项技术只能用来做游戏,然后因为她自己不玩游戏,最后下结论这个技术没啥用。。。
这项技术用在医疗行业是大家正在探索的,成功的话可以提高现有的技术。除了医疗,还有很多远程可以操作的领域都在研究和探索中。
我们都在聊人类的科技发话题,没人耽误你炒股
果小小 发表于 2021-11-20 00:35

你这人也真的不知适可而止,说得越多越显示你的无知。什么“医疗行业大家正在探索的”,ZB家的mixed reality 产品2018就问世了,tech data 用的基本是MSFT家的,没人会用FB。
linkinc
额,那人类就是悲惨世界哦……ready player one里的人类现实环境怕是我们华人大妈们都要哭死的,妥妥贫民窟阿,要靠虚拟世界买醉
huahua898 发表于 2021-11-20 00:35

以后世界就是会如此的 ,顶端生物占有大部分资源 。普通人和Matrix 里的人肉电池差不多。当然不一定那种形式可能更像Ready player one 上班带上头盔进入虚拟挣钱,回家带上头盔娱乐休闲。肉体占不了多少空间,你“觉得”在一个巨大空间就够了。
而人和人之间维护关系成本太高了。买个机器人 或者虚拟人物 定制感情形象,你喜欢什么给你做什么 。感情,性,生育一切的一切都简单想要什么样子要什么样子。不会被背叛 不会分财产 不需要有责任 还会干家务 听话 任劳任怨。。。多好。当然 那个时候肉体存在的意义是什么 也是个问题了。也许进入另一层梦境重新从进化论低端再来一次“体验”折腾
zhengxumaomao
人是理解不了认知以外的世界的。你怎么确认我们现在所谓的现实不是虚拟的?
现在这个所谓“现实”的世界 不是一个Matrix 或者 梦境中的一层?
在虚拟的世界再进入一层虚拟 有什么不可? 再进入一层时间和空间的扩大 有什么坏处?
看看电影 Ready Player One, Matrix ,inception ... 人类进入下一层维度 势不可挡 迟早而已,谁推动的都不 重要
linkinc 发表于 2021-11-20 00:27

电影电视剧看太多了吧😂
linkinc
电影电视剧看太多了吧😂
zhengxumaomao 发表于 2021-11-20 00:45

电影电视剧 只是例子让说明的事情具体化而已。给你一本相对论谁会去看,但给你看个Matrix 爽完之后还能醍醐灌顶何乐不为。 这世界,你除了能证明这个时候你的感知是存在的 你怎么能证明过去存在过?你的记忆? 记忆是可以篡改的不是吗,如果记忆是种东西存在大脑某个地方的话。
而宇宙是什么,星际穿越看起来是个科幻片难道不是更像个宗教电影?
r
ray_golden
你这人也真的不知适可而止,说得越多越显示你的无知。什么“医疗行业大家正在探索的”,ZB家的mixed reality 产品2018就问世了,tech data 用的基本是MSFT家的,没人会用FB。
pops 发表于 2021-11-20 00:43

我看好fb推日用消费品,fb的硬件一直不行,跟其它几家大tech明显是短板,只是基于别人的硬件搞平台一直根基不稳,手机的风口已经过去,开拓vr领域的机会把握的不错。现在oculus推荐朋友每个人拿30刀credit,合着quest 2 才$240,砸钱堆用户
r
ray_golden
回复 49楼的帖子
Wfh都胖了一圈,以后大部分时间vr都胖成球
灌水不要认真
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

出门左转看下那个bully贴 以后都虚拟最好 适合社恐人士
huahua898
以后世界就是会如此的 ,顶端生物占有大部分资源 。普通人和Matrix 里的人肉电池差不多。当然不一定那种形式可能更像Ready player one 上班带上头盔进入虚拟挣钱,回家带上头盔娱乐休闲。肉体占不了多少空间,你“觉得”在一个巨大空间就够了。
而人和人之间维护关系成本太高了。买个机器人 或者虚拟人物 定制感情形象,你喜欢什么给你做什么 。感情,性,生育一切的一切都简单想要什么样子要什么样子。不会被背叛 不会分财产 不需要有责任 还会干家务 听话 任劳任怨。。。多好。当然 那个时候肉体存在的意义是什么 也是个问题了。也许进入另一层梦境重新从进化论低端再来一次“体验”折腾
linkinc 发表于 2021-11-20 00:45

那还真是全球不婚不育保平安
huahua898
我看好fb推日用消费品,fb的硬件一直不行,跟其它几家大tech明显是短板,只是基于别人的硬件搞平台一直根基不稳,手机的风口已经过去,开拓vr领域的机会把握的不错。现在oculus推荐朋友每个人拿30刀credit,合着quest 2 才$240,砸钱堆用户
ray_golden 发表于 2021-11-20 00:55

看来我的买点不错,不知道这波可以冲到多少。但如果有人炒国内股票的话千万不要玩这个概念,中国铁定禁止。
KKJWang
那还真是全球不婚不育保平安
huahua898 发表于 2021-11-20 01:03

生育以后怕也不过是基因生产流水线上的产品 。不需要体液交换 怀胎十月那么麻烦了
huahua898
生育以后怕也不过是基因生产流水线上的产品 。不需要体液交换 怀胎十月那么麻烦了
KKJWang 发表于 2021-11-20 01:17

这些都太未来了,而且是挺没劲的未来,还是先跟着我们的musk去火星才是王道。
pops
我看好fb推日用消费品,fb的硬件一直不行,跟其它几家大tech明显是短板,只是基于别人的硬件搞平台一直根基不稳,手机的风口已经过去,开拓vr领域的机会把握的不错。现在oculus推荐朋友每个人拿30刀credit,合着quest 2 才$240,砸钱堆用户
ray_golden 发表于 2021-11-20 00:55

我没得名字没换好,太虚太大,没有focus, 现在根本不知道其下一个核心产品是什么。
huahua898
我没得名字没换好,太虚太大,没有focus, 现在根本不知道其下一个核心产品是什么。
pops 发表于 2021-11-20 01:42

我觉得名字挺好的,够虚幻市场化,但内容不好,这么说吧,政府会不乐意,等于另造个王国。你看国内官方立刻发文批斗国内元宇宙概念股了,这反应速度。如果欧美大行其道那以后欧美就是虚幻世界躺平,而东亚还是人肉生活,最后结果怎么样不用我说吧,欧美政府没那么傻吧……韭菜还是活动的好啊
sunnytoday
远程手术这个我懂一点,算 robotic surgery, 3D navigation仪器需要FDA clearance. 绝对不是弯曲码公的强项,不在metaverse的范畴。
你列的几项 远程做饭/打扫/修理用的都是 robotics,跟metaverse 是两回事。你把这两个混成一谈了吧。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 22:02

手术机器人第一在湾区啊
不过要美国这边要做到远程手术估计还要很久,倒是国内规定没那么多我觉得也许能先做到
vessw
一停电 就都扯淡了
page0023
适用于技术培训、职业培训等,以后开车,开飞机,理发,厨师等都可以网上学。
ccchhh
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

只为了赚钱啊亲
SmelllyCat
cool!太棒啦
vitd120
人是理解不了认知以外的世界的。你怎么确认我们现在所谓的现实不是虚拟的?
现在这个所谓“现实”的世界 不是一个Matrix 或者 梦境中的一层?
在虚拟的世界再进入一层虚拟 有什么不可? 再进入一层时间和空间的扩大 有什么坏处?
看看电影 Ready Player One, Matrix ,inception ... 人类进入下一层维度 势不可挡 迟早而已,谁推动的都不 重要
linkinc 发表于 2021-11-20 00:27

也觉得是这个意思,虚拟套虚拟,问题是为啥要进入下一层虚拟
vitd120
以后世界就是会如此的 ,顶端生物占有大部分资源 。普通人和Matrix 里的人肉电池差不多。当然不一定那种形式可能更像Ready player one 上班带上头盔进入虚拟挣钱,回家带上头盔娱乐休闲。肉体占不了多少空间,你“觉得”在一个巨大空间就够了。
而人和人之间维护关系成本太高了。买个机器人 或者虚拟人物 定制感情形象,你喜欢什么给你做什么 。感情,性,生育一切的一切都简单想要什么样子要什么样子。不会被背叛 不会分财产 不需要有责任 还会干家务 听话 任劳任怨。。。多好。当然 那个时候肉体存在的意义是什么 也是个问题了。也许进入另一层梦境重新从进化论低端再来一次“体验”折腾
linkinc 发表于 2021-11-20 00:45

这样肉体很快就go die了吧
Yesterdayom
多少年以前大家也觉得网购发展不起来, 实体店会排斥, 而且大家还是喜欢去店里挑选, 结果现在还不是全电商, 这个看着挺酷的, 虽然还差得远呢, 以后也许就和电商一样普遍。
Popflower
以后的人越发是活在自己的时间里了,想想也挺可怕的

bluegene123
以后的人越发是活在自己的时间里了,想想也挺可怕的


Popflower 发表于 2021-11-20 10:49

你怎么知道你现在就不是活在自己的时间里呢, 不是说人生就是梦一场。
Aliciashuhao
多少年以前大家也觉得网购发展不起来, 实体店会排斥, 而且大家还是喜欢去店里挑选, 结果现在还不是全电商, 这个看着挺酷的, 虽然还差得远呢, 以后也许就和电商一样普遍。
Yesterdayom 发表于 2021-11-20 10:14

有道理
wsher
目前看不出出来有什么好应用,如果想要推广,硬件价格必须够低
m
maodouchong
oculus 已经可以直接用手实现非常多的功能了,不懂手套的功能
kcdl1550
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

要有想象力,高科技也可以让人不需要肉身而存在。
chikorita
开个摄像头电脑通话就可以缩短距离了,为什么还要一起玩游戏?
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:32

类似于黑客帝国,现实生活太惨,在虚拟世界寻找安慰。
chikorita
多少年以前大家也觉得网购发展不起来, 实体店会排斥, 而且大家还是喜欢去店里挑选, 结果现在还不是全电商, 这个看着挺酷的, 虽然还差得远呢, 以后也许就和电商一样普遍。
Yesterdayom 发表于 2021-11-20 10:14

电商直到今天其实只占8%
lotusever
他和比尔盖茨真是要在搞死人类的路上走到黑啊
bluegene123
oculus 已经可以直接用手实现非常多的功能了,不懂手套的功能
maodouchong 发表于 2021-11-20 13:15

让你更有代入感。 现在 vr 只是给你视觉的感觉,但没有触觉的感受, 如你接到一个球, 你可以看到你接到一个球, 但带上手套后,你的手能感受到有个球在你手里, 甚至能把球的速度,重量的感觉都传到你手掌。 如果做得好, 做的细致,当你避上眼睛,带上手套, 那你去拿东西, 如杯子, 或跟人握手等, 应该和现实感觉差不多。 这个就是这个手套的功能。
EmmaOne
oculus 已经可以直接用手实现非常多的功能了,不懂手套的功能
maodouchong 发表于 2021-11-20 13:15

感应到你的手移动和让你的手有真实触感就不是一个级别的东西
zhangxx818
其实我一直不懂,科技把生活虚拟化有什么社会推动作用?人饿了还是得吃饭,天冷了得穿衣开暖气,不能活在空气里。这么一虚拟,培养出一堆宅男女,酒店航空汽车行业都要vanish了。
pops 发表于 2021-11-19 21:13

要是人的大脑能单独存活,人就不需要吃饭穿衣了,一些大脑的营养液就可以实现长生不死了
c
cactus_mei
Matrix. 人类都被用来发电了。
yihead
小扎搞这个就是反社会,道德层面看起来还是比较evil, 吹哨人没吹错
kattyliu2015
概念不错,但不看好小札
cshk
techlead 做了个视频 一顿抨击