刚看到，拉拉队里面爆开的。 https://abc7.com/valencia-high-school-covid-outbreak-coronavirus/11173713/ 几个星期之前，这个城市的妈妈们还在游行 my body my choice ， 哎 。。。 https://signalscv.com/2021/08/protesters-say-no-to-mask-and-vaccine-mandates/
因为是州长 mandate，不是法律 mandate，所以可以 opt out。 The requirement still leaves open the possibility for families to opt out. Because the mandate comes from the governor, and not the Legislature, it allows exemptions for medical, religious or personal reasons. Newsom said he’s confident most families will comply. https://edsource.org/2021/california-to-require-covid-vaccine-for-all-students-newsom-says/661843
科学里从来没有诅咒，只有事实与数据。 新闻链接 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/03/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/ As the delta variant swept across the country this summer, unvaccinated adolescents were hospitalized with covid-19 at 10 times the rate of fully vaccinated adolescents, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study [ 链接：www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm?s_cid=mm7036e2_w ] released Friday.
刚看到，拉拉队里面爆开的。 https://abc7.com/valencia-high-school-covid-outbreak-coronavirus/11173713/ 几个星期之前，这个城市的妈妈们还在游行 my body my choice ， 哎 。。。 https://signalscv.com/2021/08/protesters-say-no-to-mask-and-vaccine-mandates/
科学里从来没有诅咒，只有事实与数据。 新闻链接 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/03/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/ As the delta variant swept across the country this summer, unvaccinated adolescents were hospitalized with covid-19 at 10 times the rate of fully vaccinated adolescents, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study [ 链接：www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm?s_cid=mm7036e2_w ] released Friday. artdong 发表于 2021-10-27 21:09
你相信事实与数据的态度是好的。那我追问一句，十倍，是很可怕的差别呢还是根本就不显著的差别呢？毕竟，从10到100是十倍，从0.0000001%到0.000001%也是十倍。 那个十倍的说法，是对事实和数据的一种呈现，却不是全部呈现。如果你打开你贴的文字里的CDC链接，并且读了，你大概就不会觉得10倍是多么可怕了。 > During June 20–July 31, 2021, among 68 adolescents hospitalized with COVID-19 whose vaccination status had been ascertained, 59 were unvaccinated, five were partially vaccinated, and four were fully vaccinated; the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents was 0.8 per 100,000 person-weeks (95% CI = 0.6–0.9), compared with 0.1 (95% CI = 0.0–0.1) in fully vaccinated adolescents (rate ratio = 10.1; 95% CI = 3.7–27.9). > Among 3,116 hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19 during March 1, 2020–June 19, 2021, for whom complete clinical data were available,¶¶¶¶ 827 (26.5%) were admitted to an ICU, 190 (6.1%) required IMV, and 21 (0.7%) died. Among 164 hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19 during June 20–July 31, 2021, for whom complete clinical data were available,***** 38 (23.2%) were admitted to an ICU, 16 (9.8%) required IMV, and three (1.8%) died. The differences in these indicators of severe disease between the two periods were not statistically significant 多解读两句： 新闻，明显是把十倍引导到疫苗是有效的方向上去。 但仔细读读上面的引文？六月20日到7月31日，一共164个住院的孩子，其中68个有打没打疫苗的记录。68人中，59个没打的，5个打一针，4个fully vaccinated。 但是，一个重要的参考点没报啊，也就是说，人群中，有多少是没打的，有多少是打了一面的呢？没说这个做参考，那么这些数字是不能直接比较的。因为打疫苗的总人数少，所以打疫苗的住院的就少，就会是很正常的现象，对吧？ 就算是把降低住院率的原因全都归因于疫苗好了，那么，按照它给的数据来，住院率从没打疫苗的 0.8 per 100,000 person-weeks到打疫苗的0.1per 100,000 person-weeks，这大概是相当于 从almost zero降低到了almost zero吧？ CDC的原文其实还好承认了打疫苗和不打疫苗的各种数据是没有统计差别的。 所以，请你相信事实与数据，不要相信新闻媒体了，好吗？
刚看到，拉拉队里面爆开的。
https://abc7.com/valencia-high-school-covid-outbreak-coronavirus/11173713/
几个星期之前，这个城市的妈妈们还在游行 my body my choice ， 哎 。。。
https://signalscv.com/2021/08/protesters-say-no-to-mask-and-vaccine-mandates/
感谢现身说法
没有。 只有室内口罩 mandate
才发现自己发帖破万了， 惭愧。。 得戒一戒
现在各种消息满天飞 我家幼童除非校长发声音说要打针 其他的消息都当他耳边风吧
等校长发声了 那我们要么跑路要么homeschool
无所谓啦，你的身体你做主，没人control你。病毒面前喊啥都没用。
因为是州长 mandate，不是法律 mandate，所以可以 opt out。
The requirement still leaves open the possibility for families to opt out. Because the mandate comes from the governor, and not the Legislature, it allows exemptions for medical, religious or personal reasons. Newsom said he’s confident most families will comply.
https://edsource.org/2021/california-to-require-covid-vaccine-for-all-students-newsom-says/661843
青少年基本没可能重症吧
青少年不管打不打疫苗基本没可能重症，你就不要诅咒人家了。
科学里从来没有诅咒，只有事实与数据。
新闻链接 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/09/03/covid-delta-variant-live-updates/
As the delta variant swept across the country this summer, unvaccinated adolescents were hospitalized with covid-19 at 10 times the rate of fully vaccinated adolescents, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study [ 链接：www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7036e2.htm?s_cid=mm7036e2_w ] released Friday.
爱咋咋的，不传染给大人，小孩基本也没大事。
你相信事实与数据的态度是好的。那我追问一句，十倍，是很可怕的差别呢还是根本就不显著的差别呢？毕竟，从10到100是十倍，从0.0000001%到0.000001%也是十倍。
那个十倍的说法，是对事实和数据的一种呈现，却不是全部呈现。如果你打开你贴的文字里的CDC链接，并且读了，你大概就不会觉得10倍是多么可怕了。
> During June 20–July 31, 2021, among 68 adolescents hospitalized with COVID-19 whose vaccination status had been ascertained, 59 were unvaccinated, five were partially vaccinated, and four were fully vaccinated; the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated adolescents was 0.8 per 100,000 person-weeks (95% CI = 0.6–0.9), compared with 0.1 (95% CI = 0.0–0.1) in fully vaccinated adolescents (rate ratio = 10.1; 95% CI = 3.7–27.9).
> Among 3,116 hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19 during March 1, 2020–June 19, 2021, for whom complete clinical data were available,¶¶¶¶ 827 (26.5%) were admitted to an ICU, 190 (6.1%) required IMV, and 21 (0.7%) died. Among 164 hospitalized children and adolescents with COVID-19 during June 20–July 31, 2021, for whom complete clinical data were available,***** 38 (23.2%) were admitted to an ICU, 16 (9.8%) required IMV, and three (1.8%) died. The differences in these indicators of severe disease between the two periods were not statistically significant
多解读两句：
新闻，明显是把十倍引导到疫苗是有效的方向上去。
但仔细读读上面的引文？六月20日到7月31日，一共164个住院的孩子，其中68个有打没打疫苗的记录。68人中，59个没打的，5个打一针，4个fully vaccinated。 但是，一个重要的参考点没报啊，也就是说，人群中，有多少是没打的，有多少是打了一面的呢？没说这个做参考，那么这些数字是不能直接比较的。因为打疫苗的总人数少，所以打疫苗的住院的就少，就会是很正常的现象，对吧？
就算是把降低住院率的原因全都归因于疫苗好了，那么，按照它给的数据来，住院率从没打疫苗的 0.8 per 100,000 person-weeks到打疫苗的0.1per 100,000 person-weeks，这大概是相当于 从almost zero降低到了almost zero吧？
CDC的原文其实还好承认了打疫苗和不打疫苗的各种数据是没有统计差别的。
所以，请你相信事实与数据，不要相信新闻媒体了，好吗？
莫不是和欺负亚裔的新闻一样，当某裔是罪犯嫌疑人的时候报道就自动隐去。