老师这样做正常吗

煎饼果子豆腐脑
楼主 (北美华人网)
求助:疫情原因,二年级儿子仍然在家上网课,老师是个亚裔年轻女老师。网课班里21个孩子,之前一次老师课上分组讨论,其他所有孩子都有组,唯独没给我儿子分,他举了很多次手要跟老师说老师也没理他,最后他只好打开麦克风跟老师说(老师明确上课除非老师叫否则不许打开麦克风)下课后他跟我说我也没太当回事,觉得就是老师忘了。
今天数学课儿子突然掉线,尝试很多次再登陆都不行,排除家里网络原因后,写email给老师,收到老师回复,说是儿子因为上课不认真,经老师提醒无效直接被老师remove出课堂。。。
请问各位有经验的妈妈,老师这样做正常吗?从没收到过任何老师关于孩子课堂表现的email或者complaint,遇到这种情况老师是不是应该先跟家长沟通?直接把孩子remove出去是不是过分?我现在应该怎么做呢?谢谢各位回复
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Leike
你应该陪着孩子多上几次课,就知道具体什么情况了
网课真是方便
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bellamia
网课没上过,但是正常教室里如果真的是扰乱课堂秩序,送去校长室是正常操作,应该也不会告诉家长的,三次以上请家长谈话也是正常操作。
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gloria1091
你有陪娃上过网课吗?二年级的小朋友,又是网课,不专心真的很正常。而且又是网课,如果不是经常开麦捣乱,我觉得老师这个做法过分了。
煎饼果子豆腐脑
感谢楼上几位回复,孩子上课时并没有打扰别人随便讲话,只是上课时间看epic(他们每天要完成的作业),算是开小差吧应该,我知道他做的不对,也教育他了,后面我也会尽量陪他上课了解情况。感觉老师的做法有些让人不舒服,有些歧视孩子,该跟学校反映一下吗?谢谢
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zglove21
联系学校和老师,孩子这么小,有问题应该和父母商量的。偶然一次,规诫孩子守规矩还能容忍,老不让上课那还得了。
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sNoOpY_cA
My personal feedback. Some public school teachers are struggling with mental issues these days during pandemic. My older daughter has always been well behaving (from all her past teachers). When she started Grade 1, her teacher always picked on her. She got negative 100 without one single positive from her first evaluation with this Grade 1 teacher. We sat with her during classes and didn''t notice anything significantly wrong with her performance. We pulled her out of the public school into a private school immediately. Her grade 1 teacher didn''t even bother to mention that it was her last class and there was no mentioning what so ever from the school. Her public school K teacher was completely shocked and reaching out constantly after to see how my daughter is doing. We have been one of the larger donors to the public school and ceased all donations right after. I don''t think the school will do much even you provided feedback. If it gets really bad and you strongly disagree, you should think about changing schools.
Our private school experience has been way better. Worth a shot.
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string374
不正常!要是我的孩子我就直接找校长。要求换老师。
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echodrawing
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Zoom开会和上课很容易miss举手 我们开会是负责记录的专门注意举手方面的 至于上课,我是无事学生自己mute,有事自己开,欢迎随时提问,不需要举手。对于大学生这个没问题。 二年级我就不知道了。 我家娃去年上prek,有时网课的时,老师让一直开着麦。老公陪过,形容500只鸭子。
这是我自己的经验,基本上上课脑子在自己逻辑里面,除非每次记得注意,才能不miss举手。所以我都是让学生有话直接说,不要举手。这个面对面看到不一样
问题是 如果老师自己miss了举手,又不认, 把你娃remove了怎么办?
如果是zoom,有个trick,如果一直被miss了,可以点chat说,i have a question. 这样那个chat的会闪着。
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sunnymaggie
如果楼主没有遗漏太多孩子不遵守纪律不尊重老师的情况,那么老师的做法过分。 Remove from class只有在孩子严重影响教学纪律时才会发生。楼主的第一个贴只说了孩子受委屈的情况(没被分组、被踢出教室),看不出孩子做了什么会让老师觉得他不认真上课了。老师的电邮怎么说? 怎么看出他不认真上课了(叫他多次没有回复?一直低头没看视频?让打开摄像头不打开?),老师说“提醒无效“是什么意思,什么时候提醒了怎么提醒了?这些帖子里看不出来。 如果小朋友上课明显多次不遵守指令,完全像不在线的样子,老师给attendance打低分可以理解,甚至也可以理解故意不分组(怕这个学生根本不在电脑前,分组了会影响其他同学),但如果没有上课吵闹, remove from class 不可理解;即使小朋友自说自话打开Mic说话了,也不可能因为这样一件小事就说孩子影响纪律要remove from class了,而且remove from class和前面自己开mic显然发生在两天。儿子在被remove 前究竟做了什么? 说到”歧视“,觉得只是你家娃的这些事,你很难给她扣 “歧视”的大帽子。也许这个老师就是那么严苛、也动不动remove 其他孩子;也许老师是有歧视,但是这证明不了。跟学校反映前,还是应该跟老师自己沟通吧。看看从老师的视角看,究竟发生了什么,孩子要怎样才能算satisfactory. 如果这个老师真的对孩子有不公正的态度,跟老师沟通无效,再跟学校反映。
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elevenoclock
无论如何我都会跟老师谈一下,问清楚到底发生了什么,犯了什么错误会被remove出课堂。
心跳的希望
感谢楼上几位回复,孩子上课时并没有打扰别人随便讲话,只是上课时间看epic(他们每天要完成的作业),算是开小差吧应该,我知道他做的不对,也教育他了,后面我也会尽量陪他上课了解情况。感觉老师的做法有些让人不舒服,有些歧视孩子,该跟学校反映一下吗?谢谢
煎饼果子豆腐脑 发表于 2021-10-27 16:19

我家娃之前上网课时候,(K level)有个娃从来都不mute,虽然也不乱说话,但是家里的背景声音大家都能听到,他随便碰到什么东西都会被麦克风收进声音的,很annoying的。
另外有些app有举手的功能,点这个功能,老师那边能发出叮一声做提醒有人举手了,你们可以找一下这个
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msqs
不正常,即使上课不专心,也应该先联系家长,发个警告,哪有直接remove的
平安是福又一年
我家低年级孩子说她一个同学不好好上课被老师放教室外面了。我想跟从Zoom踢出一样的。只能说老师很严格,谈不上歧视。
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PinkSwan
能in person就in person吧, 别网课了,糟心。
小金猪
这是一个线上线下混合班还是全网课班?如果是混合的,网上的孩子是少数很容易被忽略。我觉得这个年纪上网课很挑战,对社交也不好,还是回学校吧
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poppy276
My personal feedback. Some public school teachers are struggling with mental issues these days during pandemic. My older daughter has always been well behaving (from all her past teachers). When she started Grade 1, her teacher always picked on her. She got negative 100 without one single positive from her first evaluation with this Grade 1 teacher. We sat with her during classes and didn''t notice anything significantly wrong with her performance. We pulled her out of the public school into a private school immediately. Her grade 1 teacher didn''t even bother to mention that it was her last class and there was no mentioning what so ever from the school. Her public school K teacher was completely shocked and reaching out constantly after to see how my daughter is doing. We have been one of the larger donors to the public school and ceased all donations right after. I don''t think the school will do much even you provided feedback. If it gets really bad and you strongly disagree, you should think about changing schools.
Our private school experience has been way better. Worth a shot.
sNoOpY_cA 发表于 2021-10-27 16:31

这位说得很好,好的私立学校真的很值得,整个学校氛围是课外上多少补习班都补不回来的,你买的就是这段上学时间的高质量时间,不单单是academic方面,整个人文环境不一样,我深有体会。
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Ethangirl
我家孩子上网课经常开小差,走神,他们还有同学一节课都不开video ,老师说完开一下门上又关了,一看就是在看YouTube 或者打游戏。老师都没有把他们踢出去,都是教育引导为主。网课对于低年级小朋友来说就是不容易,我娃学校一直都是强调网课不易,要多理解帮助小朋友。