11岁娃干什么都拖拉,如何教育?

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sunnyday18
楼主 (北美华人网)
比如让他收拾书包,磨蹭30分钟还不开始,写作业也是。必须大人放下手里的东西,站到他旁边,盯住他,然后大人如果看到他开始写作业转身去做饭,他就又跑了,去玩乐高看电脑甚至发呆都不接着收拾书包写作业, 他倒是不玩游戏,不喜欢,就喜欢上网乱看youtube。我自己工作也很忙,这样紧盯着也受不了。
大家说怎么办呢? 我现在想的是他到了家就全家断internet到他睡觉。
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apple927
我是来看答案的
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EYYE
要不给设个timer?
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hehehh
我也想看答案
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sunnyshining
我是来看答案的+1
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William_Zhu
我兒子也是9歲多什么都不做。反而5嵗多的妹妹叫她做什麽馬上做。
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swedenice
我娃吃饭不逼的话一个小时都不吃不完
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fanhuaren
我是来看答案的+1
河边垂钓
据说加强内驱力要从他感兴趣的学科入手,经常赞美他的进步,还要贴正标签,比如说妈妈知道你会时间管理,隔壁的谁谁谁不会管理怎么怎么了,但是你会,老师布置的作业都保质保量完成了,成绩还很好啥的。我们试过block youtube,效果一般,他又跑去看网页,还是正标签和赞美进步管用
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Venwa75
也进来看答案,我知道拖拉是因为你让他做的事情都是他不想做的,但谁也不可能整天做自己爱干的事情啊!只能说你做完了不爱干的事情,比如作业,才有rewards,看YouTube,拿个胡萝卜吊在前面引诱他往前走。
东方猪猪
小时侯催的厉害吗? 好奇会不会有联系.
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Night_Cat
读the self-driven child
简单说就是不要帮他manage他的生活,让他自己体会后果
11岁早就该有这个能力了
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ConnieBear
哎,楼主我前两天刚发一帖,我家的比你这个还严重。
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mooncake
就是打心眼里不想读书写作业,所以无意识地消极抵抗—拖拉,逃避现实。
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leavee
据说加强内驱力要从他感兴趣的学科入手,经常赞美他的进步,还要贴正标签,比如说妈妈知道你会时间管理,隔壁的谁谁谁不会管理怎么怎么了,但是你会,老师布置的作业都保质保量完成了,成绩还很好啥的。我们试过block youtube,效果一般,他又跑去看网页,还是正标签和赞美进步管用
河边垂钓 发表于 2021-10-05 20:29

这个好像挺有效
河边垂钓
先立个小目标,完成以后多赞扬,激发兴趣,最好从他喜欢的事入手
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SalinaMing
据说加强内驱力要从他感兴趣的学科入手,经常赞美他的进步,还要贴正标签,比如说妈妈知道你会时间管理,隔壁的谁谁谁不会管理怎么怎么了,但是你会,老师布置的作业都保质保量完成了,成绩还很好啥的。我们试过block youtube,效果一般,他又跑去看网页,还是正标签和赞美进步管用
河边垂钓 发表于 2021-10-05 20:29

that's the only way
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SalinaMing
读the self-driven child
简单说就是不要帮他manage他的生活,让他自己体会后果
11岁早就该有这个能力了
Night_Cat 发表于 2021-10-05 21:12

父母在意的那些后果,都不是孩子现阶段在意的。譬如得个0分啊。上学迟到了记录啊。人家真得就是在意能不能玩上游戏,呵呵呵。
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summerline
据说加强内驱力要从他感兴趣的学科入手,经常赞美他的进步,还要贴正标签,比如说妈妈知道你会时间管理,隔壁的谁谁谁不会管理怎么怎么了,但是你会,老师布置的作业都保质保量完成了,成绩还很好啥的。我们试过block youtube,效果一般,他又跑去看网页,还是正标签和赞美进步管用
河边垂钓 发表于 2021-10-05 20:29

同样推荐 the self drive child 很多父母管得太多了,导致孩子对自己人生毫无掌控感 我也拖拉,我妈就是个micromanager,我是最近几年才意识到我的拖延是在对抗我妈不停的催催催
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mickey2007
我家的疫情期间达成共识 老妈做了一个课程安排 打印出来贴在他的每张桌子上 这种方法有起到“时刻”提醒他的作用.. 每个礼拜视情况做调整 目前执行得不错

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bellamia
11岁是6年级还是5年级?很多小学没有作业所以孩子没有养成每天固定花时间学习,每天收拾好自己的东西,该要家长签字,review的要自己负责。。。的好习惯,问题到了6年级就反应出来了,而到了这个年纪小时候管用的那些方法也用不上了。作业不完成除了成绩差还有什么后果?
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zicklingrad
主要是没受过苦,不懂得勤奋。
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chinaren000
设置密码和上网时间
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ginnypotter
读the self-driven child
简单说就是不要帮他manage他的生活,让他自己体会后果
11岁早就该有这个能力了
Night_Cat 发表于 2021-10-05 21:12

“简单说就是不要帮他manage他的生活,让他自己体会后果”
这个对我自己就没用。因为我拖拉没后果,最后两分钟做完还能得到不错的成绩,反复下来就更更加深了我拖拉的毛病。
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nickcuny
也进来看答案,我知道拖拉是因为你让他做的事情都是他不想做的,但谁也不可能整天做自己爱干的事情啊!只能说你做完了不爱干的事情,比如作业,才有rewards,看YouTube,拿个胡萝卜吊在前面引诱他往前走。
Venwa75 发表于 2021-10-05 21:03

同,表扬法无效,奖励马马虎虎。 在美国不敢暴力收拾,在中国绝对要揍。
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Xixi2021
据说加强内驱力要从他感兴趣的学科入手,经常赞美他的进步,还要贴正标签,比如说妈妈知道你会时间管理,隔壁的谁谁谁不会管理怎么怎么了,但是你会,老师布置的作业都保质保量完成了,成绩还很好啥的。我们试过block youtube,效果一般,他又跑去看网页,还是正标签和赞美进步管用
河边垂钓 发表于 2021-10-05 20:29

说的太对了,我家的也是所有app都删掉,结果人家去google搜
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Heiniu
读the self-driven child
简单说就是不要帮他manage他的生活,让他自己体会后果
11岁早就该有这个能力了
Night_Cat 发表于 2021-10-05 21:12

谢谢,飞奔去借了这本书
扶苏
我家老二也拖拉。没什么好办法,我能不管尽量不管。坚决让孩子自己培养自我约束能力。而不能依赖父母。
从孩子daycare开始,比如穿衣服,吃饭,来不及就直接带着衣服上车,带着早饭,开到daycare穿好衣服,进教室,把食物给老师。从小让孩子知道,你可以慢,但是我的schedule,我有办法执行。
孩子上学以后,我尽量不催,到时间必须走人,没准备好就没准备好,这是孩子应该承受的结果。我一般就是不要在孩子周围出现,因为看到他慢,我会忍不住说,但是自己知道说越多,他越皮。哪怕孩子哪天迟到,也得让他迟到几次,我不能插手。
孩子越小,越有纠错空间。所以,我一向鼓励父母在孩子小的时候少插手。只有这样到大了才有足够时间训练孩子慢慢养成基本的时间概念。如果从小都是父母督促着,那么一方面孩子会皮掉,总是以来父母,另一方面孩子约束自我能力会越弱,尤其和同龄人比较。
扶苏
“简单说就是不要帮他manage他的生活,让他自己体会后果”
这个对我自己就没用。因为我拖拉没后果,最后两分钟做完还能得到不错的成绩,反复下来就更更加深了我拖拉的毛病。
ginnypotter 发表于 2021-10-06 12:33

只要能做好,前面拖拉就拖拉呗。我也是差不多的人。我自己有分寸的。
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Heiniu
华人这种有营养的贴子可以多一点
我也觉得拖拉和家长的 micromanagement 绝对有关的。 可是家里另一个家长最喜欢的就是micromanagement , 唉
看到网上有一个说得有道理, 想试试
https://www.workingmother.com/7-ways-working-moms-can-raise-self-driven-child
7 Ways Working Moms Can Raise a Self-Driven Child 1. Be a consultant. How much does it drive you nuts to be micromanaged at work? Do you welcome a new voice who asks before telling? As much as possible, think of yourself as your child's consultant, not his boss or manager. If homework is a big struggle, say, “I love you too much to fight with you about your homework.” Tell your child you’re willing to help, to offer advice, to offer structure in any way possible, but that you won’t act like it’s your job to make him get his work done. If your kid is fighting with you, her energy is focused on proving she’s right, often even resisting what’s in her best interest.
2. Say, "It's your call.” Good companies give people the freedom to do their jobs well, including the freedom to actually use their brains and then own the results. Tell your children, “You’re the expert on you,” and encourage them to make decisions for themselves as often as possible. With adolescents, insist they practice making important choices about their own lives, with input from you and others. No one is born an expert (though many act like they are). Real learning often comes more from fixing problems than from doing things flawlessly. Give your kids the opportunity to do this—and to own both their successes and their slip-ups.
3. Ask, “Whose problem is it?” Don’t you love that guy from sales who’s not only got all the answers but thinks he’s also your boss? When kids have a problem or make a mistake, don't rush in to fix things. Kids become resilient by managing stressful situations independently, with help as needed. Listen with empathy and offer to help, but don’t try to force help or advice. Fail a quiz? “I’m sorry for you. I know you worked hard. Can I help you at all?” Break up with a boyfriend or girlfriend? “It looks like you are really hurting. Is there a way I can help you, sweetheart?” Check in if you want to give advice: “Do you want to hear my advice about that?” If you get a “no,” step back.
4. Be a “non-anxious presence.” Ever have an anxious, hovering manager or coworker who made the whole office nuts? Kids experience a strong sense of control when they are not stressed and anxious, and that sense of control is the key ingredient to motivation. So make home a “safe base” that is as stress-free as possible. If necessary, work on managing your own anxiety, guilt or anger so that you can be responsive to your kids—but don’t be overly reactive emotionally. If your kids are having problems, don’t be more upset than they are, lest they have to worry about your distress as well as their own, leading them to confide in someone other than you.
5. Encourage flow. Have you noticed how you do your best work on projects you really love and how they give you the energy to get through other parts of your job you’d just as soon ditch? Same with kids, who develop self-motivation in large part through passionate engagement in things they love. Support your kids in getting better at sports, arts, dance, rock music or programming, etc. Working with strong focus and effort on something you love is great for developing a self-driven brain.
6. Help kids practice Plan-B thinking. Has your company benefited from a pivot? Is it ready to if the market shifts? Ask your kids, “If things don’t work out the way you hope, what’s your back-up plan?” Having a Plan B is a huge stress relief, giving kids greater courage to really go for it. And, as a mom, you know the importance of finding real-time flexible solutions to the curveballs life throws at you. Help your kids at the earliest age rehearse that in their heads and practice on the go. It makes them resilient and confident about navigating this messy and unpredictable thing called life.​
7. Build in radical downtime. Hustling 24/7 is so last decade. Smart companies value how much work you fit into in your hours rather than how many hours you work. Rest matters. Kids who feel tired and overwhelmed have a low sense of control. Try to maximize your child’s sleep, make sure there are some unplugged times during the day when they can let their minds wander, and support your school in building in periods during which older children and teens can meditate.
奔跑的你我
华人这种有营养的贴子可以多一点
我也觉得拖拉和家长的 micromanagement 绝对有关的。 可是家里另一个家长最喜欢的就是micromanagement , 唉
看到网上有一个说得有道理, 想试试
https://www.workingmother.com/7-ways-working-moms-can-raise-self-driven-child
7 Ways Working Moms Can Raise a Self-Driven Child 1. Be a consultant. How much does it drive you nuts to be micromanaged at work? Do you welcome a new voice who asks before telling? As much as possible, think of yourself as your child's consultant, not his boss or manager. If homework is a big struggle, say, “I love you too much to fight with you about your homework.” Tell your child you’re willing to help, to offer advice, to offer structure in any way possible, but that you won’t act like it’s your job to make him get his work done. If your kid is fighting with you, her energy is focused on proving she’s right, often even resisting what’s in her best interest.
2. Say, "It's your call.” Good companies give people the freedom to do their jobs well, including the freedom to actually use their brains and then own the results. Tell your children, “You’re the expert on you,” and encourage them to make decisions for themselves as often as possible. With adolescents, insist they practice making important choices about their own lives, with input from you and others. No one is born an expert (though many act like they are). Real learning often comes more from fixing problems than from doing things flawlessly. Give your kids the opportunity to do this—and to own both their successes and their slip-ups.
3. Ask, “Whose problem is it?” Don’t you love that guy from sales who’s not only got all the answers but thinks he’s also your boss? When kids have a problem or make a mistake, don't rush in to fix things. Kids become resilient by managing stressful situations independently, with help as needed. Listen with empathy and offer to help, but don’t try to force help or advice. Fail a quiz? “I’m sorry for you. I know you worked hard. Can I help you at all?” Break up with a boyfriend or girlfriend? “It looks like you are really hurting. Is there a way I can help you, sweetheart?” Check in if you want to give advice: “Do you want to hear my advice about that?” If you get a “no,” step back.
4. Be a “non-anxious presence.” Ever have an anxious, hovering manager or coworker who made the whole office nuts? Kids experience a strong sense of control when they are not stressed and anxious, and that sense of control is the key ingredient to motivation. So make home a “safe base” that is as stress-free as possible. If necessary, work on managing your own anxiety, guilt or anger so that you can be responsive to your kids—but don’t be overly reactive emotionally. If your kids are having problems, don’t be more upset than they are, lest they have to worry about your distress as well as their own, leading them to confide in someone other than you.
5. Encourage flow. Have you noticed how you do your best work on projects you really love and how they give you the energy to get through other parts of your job you’d just as soon ditch? Same with kids, who develop self-motivation in large part through passionate engagement in things they love. Support your kids in getting better at sports, arts, dance, rock music or programming, etc. Working with strong focus and effort on something you love is great for developing a self-driven brain.
6. Help kids practice Plan-B thinking. Has your company benefited from a pivot? Is it ready to if the market shifts? Ask your kids, “If things don’t work out the way you hope, what’s your back-up plan?” Having a Plan B is a huge stress relief, giving kids greater courage to really go for it. And, as a mom, you know the importance of finding real-time flexible solutions to the curveballs life throws at you. Help your kids at the earliest age rehearse that in their heads and practice on the go. It makes them resilient and confident about navigating this messy and unpredictable thing called life.​
7. Build in radical downtime. Hustling 24/7 is so last decade. Smart companies value how much work you fit into in your hours rather than how many hours you work. Rest matters. Kids who feel tired and overwhelmed have a low sense of control. Try to maximize your child’s sleep, make sure there are some unplugged times during the day when they can let their minds wander, and support your school in building in periods during which older children and teens can meditate.

Heiniu 发表于 2021-10-06 13:45

谢谢分享
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hellokittypeggy
同样推荐 the self drive child 很多父母管得太多了,导致孩子对自己人生毫无掌控感 我也拖拉,我妈就是个micromanager,我是最近几年才意识到我的拖延是在对抗我妈不停的催催催
summerline 发表于 2021-10-06 10:25

如果不催应该如何做呢?我小时候就是个完全没有自我驱动力的小孩,要不是我妈妈在旁边经常盯着我催着我,完全靠自己的话,我连大学都上不了,估计早早去打工了。小孩知道什么是严重后果吗?我小时候有几年父母都没时间管,成绩一落千丈,每天上学除了瞌睡就是瞌睡,不写作业,老师批评也无所谓,破罐子破摔,因为我不觉得后果有多严重。但相比较其他有自我驱动里的孩子,真的完全不用家长操心
于途yyds
来看答案的!!!!被娃折磨 前面说让自己感受后果的, 我娃那些都不在乎, 迟到了不在乎, 喜欢的玩具动画片没有了不在乎, 谈以后找不到工作没饭吃这种更没用,她就看眼前是不是自己能玩不写作业。。现在感觉是她就是不想做的事情就消极罢工抵抗,问题是她自己也没什么特别喜欢的事情去投入时间,每天就发呆,看漫画这种浪费时间
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hellokittypeggy
来看答案的!!!!被娃折磨 前面说让自己感受后果的, 我娃那些都不在乎, 迟到了不在乎, 喜欢的玩具动画片没有了不在乎, 谈以后找不到工作没饭吃这种更没用,她就看眼前是不是自己能玩不写作业。。现在感觉是她就是不想做的事情就消极罢工抵抗,问题是她自己也没什么特别喜欢的事情去投入时间,每天就发呆,看漫画这种浪费时间
于途yyds 发表于 2021-10-06 14:21

对啊,小孩小时候知道什么后果啊,有吃有喝,作业做不完考试零蛋又如何,他又不懂意味着什么。等到真正承担自己意识到的后果了,基本上已经晚了
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Ethangirl
所以说要让娃承担他们能感受到的后果。我家原来早上磨蹭,我不催他们就迟到。可是人家迟到了一点不在乎。后来我立个规矩早上到时间出不了门晚上就没有动画片看,晚了几次以后他们现在早上都麻利地洗脸刷牙早早准备好出门。
烟熏三文鱼
同样推荐 the self drive child 很多父母管得太多了,导致孩子对自己人生毫无掌控感 我也拖拉,我妈就是个micromanager,我是最近几年才意识到我的拖延是在对抗我妈不停的催催催
summerline 发表于 2021-10-06 10:25

我也找来看看。我也是拖延症严重,我爸一直喜欢叨叨叨,估计也是一种对抗。
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hhxx89
没生好 没啥好办法 我每天想的就是 扔出去 不要了 不玩了
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AlwaysHopeful
如果你们都愿意药物治疗,也可以带去看病确诊吃Adderall
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RunQqRun
来看答案的!!!!被娃折磨 前面说让自己感受后果的, 我娃那些都不在乎, 迟到了不在乎, 喜欢的玩具动画片没有了不在乎, 谈以后找不到工作没饭吃这种更没用,她就看眼前是不是自己能玩不写作业。。现在感觉是她就是不想做的事情就消极罢工抵抗,问题是她自己也没什么特别喜欢的事情去投入时间,每天就发呆,看漫画这种浪费时间
于途yyds 发表于 2021-10-06 14:21

试看看从另一个方向入手 喜欢看漫画其实是一个突破点 看看能不能鼓励她自己编漫画 写短篇小故事 加上自己的插图 我孩子就是很喜欢dog man, diary of a wimpy kid 之类的书 有一天发现她自己在一个小笔记本上写自己编的小故事 还配了手绘插图 一下子觉得“啊!这一定是上帝在指引我!!!” 然后猛夸 表现得能有多夸张就有多夸张 还告诉她等她写完了这个故事 自己proofread了 定个价钱 之后推销给我或者爸爸 看看能不能自己挣点零花钱
BUT BUT 后话:自从第一本她卖了个大价钱(10美金,写画真是挺费工的) ,第二本第三本都开始写了。然鹅都只是写了个开头,可后面标价都自己定好了。。。现在正在夸她第二本的开头很有创意,希望能继续下去吧