那个被叛无期的三鹿董事长,要出狱了

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Mintcafe
也请你谈谈三鹿事件的可怕之处啊。日本的七十年前了,食物药品安全检测在全世界都没一定规范,我再给你个外国的例子。 Thalidomide听过吗?比森永还晚的,欧美出生多少海报儿。四十年代当年连fda 都不太管事儿。 时间快进到二十一世纪,科学进步了监管也到位了,结果那些年中国之大找不出安全奶粉。 三鹿事件的可怕之处在于爆出来了,受害家长坐牢了。 可怕之处在于过几年疫苗又出事儿了,结果是一批官员异地做官。
page394 发表于 2021-10-02 23:14

三鹿的可怕还需要我谈嘛,另外日本近代还有个号称白雪公主的雪印,近代日本最大的食物中毒案了吧,也是改变了日本的食物卫生法。中国的问题是人治大于法制,信用度基本破产。
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page394
三鹿的可怕还需要我谈嘛,另外日本近代还有个号称白雪公主的雪印,近代日本最大的食物中毒案了吧,也是改变了日本的食物卫生法。中国的问题是人治大于法制,信用度基本破产。
Mintcafe 发表于 2021-10-02 23:51

我觉得在这个帖子下面需要谈啊。你关心日本食品安全完全可以再开个主题贴讲讲日本那些事儿。 进这个贴不是说三鹿吗?哪怕你说日本的时候顺便骂两句三鹿呢,也对你的credibility有好处吧? 你这个工作方法太生硬了,完全顾左右而言他,一句不提三鹿的。基本是高举flag 怕别人不知道你这是工作。
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Mintcafe
我觉得在这个帖子下面需要谈啊。你关心日本食品安全完全可以再开个主题贴讲讲日本那些事儿。 进这个贴不是说三鹿吗?哪怕你说日本的时候顺便骂两句三鹿呢,也对你的credibility有好处吧? 你这个工作方法太生硬了,完全顾左右而言他,一句不提三鹿的。基本是高举flag 怕别人不知道你这是工作。
page394 发表于 2021-10-03 00:00

我回贴的是关于中国法律儿戏的,你大概看不见?你是上来工作的?我说神马还要复合你的政治正确?不然就是支持三鹿就是在工作?彪悍的逻辑🤣
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Mintcafe
回复 31楼Mintcafe的帖子[/url]
1955年日本的森永牛奶案——只引述,不评论。下面是2005年的一篇回溯。
[url]http://ww3.tiki.ne.jp/~jcn-o/morinaga-hiso-Englishi-version-byEitaroNOSE-pdf.pdf
It was actually the Morinaga factory in Tokushima who announced that arsenic had been found in sodium phosphate, a chemical being used as a stabilizer. The stabilizer had not been sent for examination so all of the tests performed during the investigation had effectively been done so in vain.
It had not been known to anybody but producers that a stabilizer was being used in the powdered milk. At the time, there were no refrigerated tanker trucks for transportation, so the milk was becoming oxidized on the long trip from the farm to the factory. The quality of the milk used was a major factor. If milk of low quality is used for powdered milk products, it is difficult to dissolve in water for consumption. This problem does not occur if good quality milk is used. In the case of Morinaga, the milk being used was almost rotten therefore they needed to add sodium phosphate as a stabilizer. According to the press release by Morinaga, they had been using this stabilizer since 1952.
Sodium phosphate can be classified into three grades of purity, known as reagents, these are: the first reagent, the second reagent, and the grade suitable for industrial use. Believe it or not, the type of sodium phosphate that Morinaga had been adding to their milk was the one for industrial use, which is more commonly used as an insecticide or for cleaning boilers. In fact, during the time in question, the scales at the factory were broken so the stabilizer was not measured before being added. This is why the amount of arsenic found in each product was different depending on the date of production and lot number.
The sodium phosphate in which the arsenic was found was actually produced from industrial waste. This particular waste was generated during the process of refining bauxite into aluminum at the Nippon Light Metal Company, Ltd. factory in Shimizu. It was first delivered to Japanese National Railways (currently JR) but was returned due to the presence of arsenic.  
This sodium phosphate was delivered to Morinaga factory in Tokushima after being rejected by many medicine companies. The Nippon Light Metal Company made an inquiry to the Ministry of Welfare via Shizuoka Prefectural Sanitation as to whether this “medicine” would constitute as a poison, in accordance with the “Poisonous and Deleterious Substances Control Law” of November 1954. They did not receive an answer from the Ministry of Welfare until November 1955, the following year. If their response had been completed much earlier, this incident would never have occurred. Aside from these details, it is needless to say that all producers have a responsibility to their customers when it comes to product quality. Including components that are best used for cleaning trains, as demonstrated by Morinaga, is nothing short of irresponsible and dangerous.
Nothing can excuse the actions of Morinaga. It is clear that they neglected both their duty of care as well as and security practices, which in turn lead to this incident.
In contrast, once the investigation was underway Morinaga insisted in criminal court that they had been “deceived by the medical company”. Morinaga claimed to have thought the medicine was the same as what they had been using before, therefore did not check for quality. They claimed this was an offence by the medical company against “the principle of trust”. The response from the medical company was mixed. On one hand they accepted the fact that they had actually delivered a low quality product. On the other hand, they stated, “if Morinaga had made it clear what the medicine was to be used for, we would have delivered the proper product.” The medical company did not ask about the usage of their medicine because Morinaga wanted it to remain confidential.  
The reason Morinaga chose to use low quality milk as a material was due to a sudden increase in their share of the powdered milk market. This growth was the result of an effective marketing campaign, which included a baby contest and commercials featuring well-known personalities. Their market share had exceeded 50% by 1955. The amount of milk Morinaga collected increased by 3.1 times over the period between 1950 and 1955. Morinaga had outdistanced their competitors, Yukijirushi and Meiji, by 2 times and 2.6 times respectively.
As previously mentioned, there would have been no need to use a stabilizer at all if only Morinaga had used fresh milk as a material. Although they had been advertising that Beta Dry Milk, a higher-ranking product than MF Can, was safe, it turned out not to be true according to a recent thesis. (Nakashima. T, 2005, 50 years since the case of arsenic poisoning caused by Morinaga Milk, Vol. 3, p. 90-101).

Morinaga was found not guilty at the first trial in Tokushima district court on October 25, 1963. At a review by an appellate court in Takamatsu high court on March 31, 1966, the original decision was reversed and remanded. Following this, at a hearing in the Supreme Court, a final appeal was rejected on February 27, 1969. Eventually, it was through Tokushima district court that the head of factory production at Morinaga, Tokushima was sentenced to three years’ imprisonment. Eighteen years had passed since the indictment was first issued. It was one of the top ten longest lawsuits in history.
mingcedargrove 发表于 2021-10-02 12:39

资本真是头怪兽,这个其实还好了,水俁病那个吓人,大名鼎鼎的摄影记者Eugene被打的脊椎骨折外带失明。
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RainyBambooJepp
为什么这种人当初不判死刑?
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smileCy
就问美国楼塌和在中国奶粉里下毒有啥关系。所以中国奶粉下毒就不是个事儿?
page394 发表于 2021-10-02 21:46

类比都看不出? 中国楼塌了有责任人,第一时间救援,美国楼塌了等死还要给拖延救援的市长唱赞歌,这就是差距
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GeorgeGrow
这种罪犯还能减刑放出来?
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SalinaMing
曾经的一个manager 意大利老头 关系还不错老婆是香港人。
我回国玩 回来带了芒果干 在办公室给他尝尝。 他说他不吃中国带来的吃的 连奶粉都有加有毒的东西 吃的不放心。 就不吃了 当时真是很尴尬。


forever_love 发表于 2021-10-02 23:12

你木有当场喷回去吗?
他大有权利这么说 你可以尊重他,不过这么完全不尊重同事面子的话当你的面说出来,不喷他可惜了
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pangpangbear
你说生在这样的国家普通人不拼命怎么行,自己的孩子都保护不了
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hahahapapapa
真恶心垃圾人渣放出来。算不算伤害中国人民感情
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mabaole
类比都看不出? 中国楼塌了有责任人,第一时间救援,美国楼塌了等死还要给拖延救援的市长唱赞歌,这就是差距
smileCy 发表于 2021-10-03 03:28

恒大把维权的的人抓起来,你解释下?许家印缩到哪里了?许家印后面的大老板是谁?
鱼的记忆都比你好,一点逻辑都没的innamate,来这里proproganda也稍微动一点猪脑。
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lastunas
回复 1楼Pamper的帖子
没受害者家属去打断她的腿?
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apple888
现在牛奶质量依然堪忧。前几天买了一次伊利的鲜奶,早上送来就喝,喝完胃胀气相当不舒服,全部扔掉,应该是污染了。记得前两年有次买它的酸奶,那种小塑料盒的,上面那层纸怎么也掀不开,一个这么大企业封装做的如此差劲也是醉了,后来从来不买它的酸奶。若干年一直只买碧悠。 普通消费者哪里能鉴别质量好坏呢?
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Enstein
回复 1楼Pamper的帖子
这根本不是她一个CEO的问题,这是全行业到如今,缺乏诚信,肆意敛财,资本运作的冰山一角! 更可怕的是,这个无法无天,操纵舆论,无人敢言的社会体制! 死循环! 无解!
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cathy722
现在牛奶质量依然堪忧。前几天买了一次伊利的鲜奶,早上送来就喝,喝完胃胀气相当不舒服,全部扔掉,应该是污染了。记得前两年有次买它的酸奶,那种小塑料盒的,上面那层纸怎么也掀不开,一个这么大企业封装做的如此差劲也是醉了,后来从来不买它的酸奶。若干年一直只买碧悠。 普通消费者哪里能鉴别质量好坏呢?
apple888 发表于 2021-10-06 04:35

伊利鲜奶的质量我不了解。只想说鲜奶导致胃胀气未必都是因为质量问题,乳糖不耐受会导致胃胀气这些情况。亚裔成年人里面90%以上是乳糖不耐受,只不过每个人严重程度不同。
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hellensiao
多亏当时南方系的公知们还能说得上话~~
ChristinaW 发表于 2021-10-01 21:30

这种事要是现在出来的话立马就被摁下去了。
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vwot
无期怎么出来?