3 dead, 50 injured, many questions after Amtrak train derails in Montana John Bacon USA TODAY The westbound Empire Builder train with 141 passengers and 16 crew members derailed near Joplin. Eight of the train's 10 cars toppled off the tracks. The tragedy occurred at the end of Rail Safety Week. Amtrak was joining with federal safety officials Sunday to investigate a Montana train derailment that left at least three people dead and rural communities scrambling to provide food and shelter to the stunned survivors. The westbound Empire Builder train with 141 passengers and 16 crew members derailed Saturday afternoon near Joplin, a town of less than 200 people just a few miles from the Canadian border. The tragedy occurred as Amtrak was closing out its nationwide, annual Rail Safety Week. Liberty County sheriff’s dispatcher Starr Tyler confirmed the deaths, saying there also were multiple injuries. Amtrak spokesman Jason Abrams said eight of the train's 10 cars toppled off the tracks, some of them sitting on their sides when the Seattle-bound train out of Chicago came to a halt. "We are deeply saddened to learn local authorities are now confirming that three people have lost their lives as a result of this accident," Abrams said in a statement. "We have a team on the ground to fully support the NTSB as they investigate the cause of the derailment." Amanda Frickel, the disaster and emergency services coordinator for Hill County, Mont., told The New York Times that “well over” 50 people had been injured. (Jacob Cordeiro on Twitter @jacob_cordeiro)
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3 dead, 50 injured, many questions after Amtrak train derails in Montana John Bacon USA TODAY The westbound Empire Builder train with 141 passengers and 16 crew members derailed near Joplin. Eight of the train's 10 cars toppled off the tracks. The tragedy occurred at the end of Rail Safety Week. Amtrak was joining with federal safety officials Sunday to investigate a Montana train derailment that left at least three people dead and rural communities scrambling to provide food and shelter to the stunned survivors. The westbound Empire Builder train with 141 passengers and 16 crew members derailed Saturday afternoon near Joplin, a town of less than 200 people just a few miles from the Canadian border. The tragedy occurred as Amtrak was closing out its nationwide, annual Rail Safety Week. Liberty County sheriff’s dispatcher Starr Tyler confirmed the deaths, saying there also were multiple injuries. Amtrak spokesman Jason Abrams said eight of the train's 10 cars toppled off the tracks, some of them sitting on their sides when the Seattle-bound train out of Chicago came to a halt. "We are deeply saddened to learn local authorities are now confirming that three people have lost their lives as a result of this accident," Abrams said in a statement. "We have a team on the ground to fully support the NTSB as they investigate the cause of the derailment." Amanda Frickel, the disaster and emergency services coordinator for Hill County, Mont., told The New York Times that “well over” 50 people had been injured. (Jacob Cordeiro on Twitter @jacob_cordeiro)
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这是观光线，车速不快。可能是轨道磨损，维护跟不上。查了一下，Amtrak近些年出事好几次了。 https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/amtrak-montana-train-derails.html In 2018, three people died after an Amtrak train traveled on the wrong track in South Carolina and slammed into a parked freight train. That same year, a train carrying Republican members of Congress hit a garbage truck in rural Virginia, killing a passenger in the truck. In 2015, an Amtrak train that had been traveling at more than 100 miles per hour, twice the speed limit, careened off a curve in Philadelphia, killing eight people and injuring more than 200.
在美国主媒只要提起中国高铁，只要配图，必提温州动车事故，温州事故成了中国高铁的defining moment, the face, the representation, the essence of high speed trains in China. 这个事故本身没啥可洗的，处理野蛮粗糙，公关一塌糊涂，各种弊端暴露无疑。 但是到了今天，中国高铁进步成了里程最长，客运量最多（这俩指标没有之一），安全性最高的之一。 但是西方主媒造成的印象永远就是事故频发，黑暗落后的中国高铁。 这才是洗脑。
The westbound Empire Builder train with 141 passengers and 16 crew members derailed near Joplin. Eight of the train's 10 cars toppled off the tracks. The tragedy occurred at the end of Rail Safety Week.
Amtrak was joining with federal safety officials Sunday to investigate a Montana train derailment that left at least three people dead and rural communities scrambling to provide food and shelter to the stunned survivors.
The westbound Empire Builder train with 141 passengers and 16 crew members derailed Saturday afternoon near Joplin, a town of less than 200 people just a few miles from the Canadian border. The tragedy occurred as Amtrak was closing out its nationwide, annual Rail Safety Week.
Liberty County sheriff’s dispatcher Starr Tyler confirmed the deaths, saying there also were multiple injuries.
Amtrak spokesman Jason Abrams said eight of the train's 10 cars toppled off the tracks, some of them sitting on their sides when the Seattle-bound train out of Chicago came to a halt.
"We are deeply saddened to learn local authorities are now confirming that three people have lost their lives as a result of this accident," Abrams said in a statement. "We have a team on the ground to fully support the NTSB as they investigate the cause of the derailment."
Amanda Frickel, the disaster and emergency services coordinator for Hill County, Mont., told The New York Times that “well over” 50 people had been injured.
(Jacob Cordeiro on Twitter @jacob_cordeiro)
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AmTrak能不能靠点谱啊
Amtrak 的长途火车根本没多快，远到不了高铁速度， 还事故频发。
美国这跟基建相关的事真是没法说了
看丹泽尔华盛顿的电影，有些打弯的地方，不能超过90mile的速度，看电影惊心动魄，但放到中国就是绿皮车速度了
对啊，美国自认为第一世界，很多地方跟第三世界差不多啊
美国基建就是第三世界了 ，来了那么多年没变过。所以trump一去看中国 心里太不平衡了 一直6以为的穷下人的家比自己高级无数倍。
加州PG&E公司，火灾最终只赔了几百万美元 剩下的和政府达成重组协议
飞机加汽车足够了，建高铁按美国的人口密度，得亏死。
中国市内交通的拥堵和停车场的稀缺，连第三世界都不如。
说的好像美国大城市不堵车停车位到处都是一样。。。
北京上海市内停车位数量和交通情况强过纽约， 美国别的城市因为市区比较分散或人不多可能好些
美国顶多一个纽约，中国到三线城市都堵成狗，一方面是基建差，另一方面是开车人除了红灯停、绿灯行之外根本不知道其他交规，乱开乱停。
真是张嘴就来。
一贯的反中份子又找出一个新角度，我这是很佩服
脑子到底是怎么转变成这样的？难道练功真的会这样？
有时候我觉得这类人是反串，可是挖挖坟发现他们是真得魔症。。。
都是几十年前的设计了。现在能跑就算是pass了。 而且客运铁路本身在美国就是个鸡肋的东西。我比较好奇这条线路的情况：上座率，价格，稳定性。
所以美国是应该搞一波基建了。
但是我不认为在客运铁路上投资有啥意义：这已经是一条观光铁路而不是正常的基础设施了。
这条线路其实很有名啊，Empire Builder，全世界最漂亮的几条观光线路之一，尤其到冬天大雪纷飞，坐在餐车吃着龙虾穿过整个glacier np美得不行。 主要问题是卧铺车票死贵，然后因为铁路客运比货运等级低时间掐不准，坐这个不少是和坐游轮对应的，包厢室内淋浴等等。
发生在美国，反而没啥热度，呵呵呵
而且竟然在鸟不拉屎的大平地直线也能出轨 这是枕木都烂掉了么？
我做过西南酋长和微风号。amtrak那是真的慢，真的晃荡。默认晚点1小时
都是退休老头老太太在旅游。我坐西南酋长的时候，整个卧铺车厢只有我一个50以下的非白人。
所以说这样的年龄分布，翻车了只死3个人，我是不信的。
这个国家已经陷入内耗完全消灭产出的阶段
不要说基建，就连政策上微调转弯都做不到了
以前讨论过，结论是因为机票太便宜
腐败太厉害，修不起。
我家娃也喜欢坐火车
每次去国内的时候，基本都是能做火车就坐火车
没有一个长久的可持续的利民政策，每四年一选，选上了忙着选下一届，没空干实事，也没人愿意得罪汽车和航空公司这些大赞助商，反正要的是眼下的选票，十年二十年后的国家发展跟自己有什么关系
坐飞机太痛苦了，还浪费时间，我每次坐飞机都很郁闷
有一说一，这条路线比大多数欧洲线路要漂亮
https://parkerday.com/the-empire-builder-jan2018/
还是基建的问题 几十年前建的铁路 那时候的技术限制 有的地形没办法弯道大 只能限速 现在再建的话 遇山打洞 遇水架桥 都取直了 没建的主要原因 钱从哪来
阿富汗的开支是不是可以省下来了？
国内那个人口密度，大部分高铁线路都是赔钱的 何况美国?
高铁不能看票价是否回本，盘活沿线城市经济，带动人流才是目的，这也是美国没法做的原因之一，但为什么人家日本和德国就可以
带动人流也得有足够的人流能带啊 高铁多的东亚和欧洲，像你说的日本，人口密度可都不小 美国就算造，只有东西两岸还有一点点可能吧
机票便宜是因为联邦补贴，比如covid一来，3大航司各个都有政府兜底。一些偏远小航司在华盛顿没有人脉的，就只能断航或者破产了
阿拉斯加西南部很多居民去年一年时间出不了门，因为唯一去anchorage的航线没了。又不通公路，大家只好在fb群里吆喝一起包小飞机
航空公司利润比纸还薄，而客均成本受油价和客流影响很大。
In 2018, three people died after an Amtrak train traveled on the wrong track in South Carolina and slammed into a parked freight train. That same year, a train carrying Republican members of Congress hit a garbage truck in rural Virginia, killing a passenger in the truck.
In 2015, an Amtrak train that had been traveling at more than 100 miles per hour, twice the speed limit, careened off a curve in Philadelphia, killing eight people and injuring more than 200.
你的意思所以独裁更有效？
真说不过去，基建老化不管，一天到晚给非移发钱痛快的很
这个事故本身没啥可洗的，处理野蛮粗糙，公关一塌糊涂，各种弊端暴露无疑。
但是到了今天，中国高铁进步成了里程最长，客运量最多（这俩指标没有之一），安全性最高的之一。
但是西方主媒造成的印象永远就是事故频发，黑暗落后的中国高铁。
这才是洗脑。
瑞士的黄金线和冰川线了解一下，谢谢！还有这里说的是美国火车的整体水平，没有单独说这一个。
就事论事就好了，你这种发言就是挑衅 😂 最喜欢看到大家为了美国这样中国那样吵架。让我想起国内同学群发言，几乎所有事情，有同学就能扯上美帝，群里马上禁声 😄
坐过几次美国的火车，没觉得脏旧啊，人很少，坐得挺舒服的，也挺干净，就是速度慢
国内高铁可以立硬币
美国amtrak，1/3的车速，把我手机从桌上晃到地上去了
这世界上为老百姓打算的政府很多，别只看到中美，坐井观天
要是中国基建也算差，那么美国只能是shithole了
来， 凑个热度。 “米帝已死，有事烧纸”
谎话说多了，自己都信了？中国基建就是垃圾。
RIP
人口密度大的地方可以建，其他地方都算了。公路很多地方都需要重铺了，破破烂烂的，一条路两年了都没铺好呢，慢悠悠地，美国整体令人越来越失望。不过，国内的政策变来变去，也没什么好归的。
90mph, 那很快呀。 你确定中国绿皮车能跑一半，也就是45Mph?
如果仅仅有一点点，技术上建这个东西并不是很make sense，因为维护成本各种东西都很麻烦。
西海岸密度也不够。
可能只有东北部现在勉强够修高铁，但是也是在盈亏线上下。还不如老老实实多盖个机场，然后把去机场的地铁好好修修。
这些并非是专门的观光火车， 是属于常规的长途客运，北线跨东西比如芝加哥到西雅图都得走这趟线。
票价只有卧铺贵，如果是不嫌麻烦且是一天行程（比如朝发夕至），硬座很便宜还时不时推出折扣票
国内绿皮火车速度不慢，只是停得多。 绿皮80-120公里样子。而且多内提速好多次了，现在的绿皮应该有160左右
中文名 绿皮火车 外文名 chinese''s green Carriage 类别 交通工具 状态 老绿皮车退役 时速 120至160km