Huawei Technologies finance chief Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver in August. PHOTO: JENNIFER GAUTHIER/REUTERS By Aruna Viswanatha Sept. 24, 2021 10:33 am ET
The U.S. Justice Department has reached a deal that will allow Huawei Technologies Co. finance chief Meng Wanzhou to return to her home in China nearly three years after she was detained in Canada on behalf of the U.S., people familiar with the matter said. The agreement, which is expected to be entered in court later Friday, will require Ms. Meng to admit to some wrongdoing in exchange for prosecutors deferring and later dropping wire and bank fraud charges, the people said. She is scheduled to appear in federal court in Brooklyn Friday afternoon remotely from Canada. Representatives for Huawei and the Justice Department declined to comment. The expected deal resolves one source of tension between the U.S. and China as relations between the two countries have deteriorated, particularly after the U.S., U.K. and Australia announced an effort this month to provide Australia with nuclear submarines to counter China’s influence in the Indo-Pacific region.
--- CBC 报道:孟晚舟今天会在美国法院认罪,并交巨额罚款 Huawei''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Meng Wanzhou expected to plead guilty today in U.S. court: sources Huawei''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Meng Wanzhou expected to plead guilty today in U.S. court: sources | CBC News Huawei executive was arrested back in 2018 on a U.S. extradition request Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Sep 24, 2021 10:05 AM ET | Last Updated: 34 minutes ago Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou leaves her home for her extradition hearing. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press) 462 comments Chinese tech executive Meng Wanzhou is expected to appear virtually in an American federal courtroom today to plead guilty in the U.S. proceedings against her, say sources. The Huawei Technologies chief financial officer will pay a fine as part of a plea deal, said the sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly. Her court appearance was first reported by Reuters. Sources said if the New York court accepts the deal, Canadian Crown attorneys will appear in a Vancouver court later today to stay extradition proceedings against Meng. She could be free of house arrest as early as today. The U.S. District Court said Meng''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s virtual appearance will be at 1 p.m. ET in a Brooklyn courtroom. Families mark 1,000 days since China''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s detention of Canadians Spavor, KovrigDecision on Meng Wanzhou extradition rests with judge as marathon hearing concludes Today''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s developments could mark a new phase in the strained relationship between the Canadian and Chinese governments. The 49-year-old Meng was arrested at Vancouver''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s airport on Dec. 1, 2018 on a U.S. extradition request on allegations that she lied to a Hong Kong banker in August 2013 about Huawei''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s control of a subsidiary accused of violating U.S. sanctions against Iran. A few days later, Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig were detained in what is largely seen as an act of retaliation by Beijing against Canada. Both men were charged with espionage. Spavor has been sentenced to 11 years in prison. Michael Kovrig has yet to be sentenced; his trial wrapped in March. CBC''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Journalistic Standards and Practices|About CBC News Report Typo or Error
呵呵,以前给加拿大吹法制的出来继续吹啊! 我早说过,这就是个政治案件。整个过程中最煞笔的就是加拿大,为美国火中取栗。 整个过程中加拿大所谓司法独立就是个大笑话。美国要抓人加拿大就去抓人。中国施加压力加拿大就开始找各种借口拖延引渡决定。最后这个所谓virtual更是大笑话。如果加拿大真司法独立,加拿大就应该引渡孟。最后孟是否跟美国达成认罪协议让孟去美国跟法庭谈。最后孟还在加拿大,搞个所谓virtual出庭,笑死。 呵呵,看了一下进一步的新闻,我本来以为孟至少会认个罪。搞半天连GUILTY PLEA都没有。sorry for some wrongdoing 而已。这就好比本来控告你闹市开枪杀人,最后搞了三年,不控告了。你承认了一个在闹市练习枪法是WRONGDOING,说了句SORRY拍拍屁股走了。可笑不?
Justice Department Reaches Deal With Huawei Executive Agreement offers Meng Wanzhou an exit from Canada, where she has been fighting extradition to U.S.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/justice-department-reaches-deal-with-huawei-executive-11632494001?mod=hp_lead_pos2
Huawei Technologies finance chief Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver in August. PHOTO: JENNIFER GAUTHIER/REUTERS By Aruna Viswanatha Sept. 24, 2021 10:33 am ET
The U.S. Justice Department has reached a deal that will allow Huawei Technologies Co. finance chief Meng Wanzhou to return to her home in China nearly three years after she was detained in Canada on behalf of the U.S., people familiar with the matter said.
The agreement, which is expected to be entered in court later Friday, will require Ms. Meng to admit to some wrongdoing in exchange for prosecutors deferring and later dropping wire and bank fraud charges, the people said. She is scheduled to appear in federal court in Brooklyn Friday afternoon remotely from Canada. Representatives for Huawei and the Justice Department declined to comment.
The expected deal resolves one source of tension between the U.S. and China as relations between the two countries have deteriorated, particularly after the U.S., U.K. and Australia announced an effort this month to provide Australia with nuclear submarines to counter China’s influence in the Indo-Pacific region.
孟晚舟已乘包机回深圳
🔥 最新回帖
发了几次 总是被版主删除或者移动
孟的声明是她承认列举的事实,但不是事实就不在她承认之列。
哈哈
thanks for sharing
🛋️ 沙发板凳
不好意思,刚把标题内容从恒大改了。。。 关于恒大这个WSJ中文报道比较简明扼要,改发在下面回帖了 https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2730938&fid=398&page=4
可惜一天只能发一个主题 孟晚州这个更劲爆
哈哈,我说呢,2、3楼的回复怎么让我觉得我进入了平行空间。
link please?
你觉得她敢认罪认罚吗?不能够啊
回国需要隔离吗?
达成协议了,而且说今天就完结。 那怎么去美国? 通过视频?
视频出庭的
找到了,是 virtually 而且中国会把间谍的证据和两个Mike还给加拿大
简单解释就是: 我承认我杀人了,但是“我就是无罪”————————————这逻辑。。。。搞笑来的
孟晚舟明显就是充当了美国对华为案件的“污点证人”了,华为在接下来的庭审中会输得很惨---
美国助理检察官大卫·凯斯勒(David Kessler)在听证上对法官说,美国联邦检察官与孟晚舟达成了一份暂缓起诉协议。如果孟晚舟满足某些条件,美国政府将在2022年12月1日,即暂缓期结束时撤销对她的指控。如果她未能履行这项协议的规定,那么她将受到起诉。凯斯勒补充说,孟晚舟将以个人担保的方式被释放,美国计划撤回向加拿大提出的引渡她的请求。
美国司法部周五发表了题为“华为首席财务官孟晚舟承认误导全球金融机构”的新闻稿。纽约东区美国代理检察官妮可·博克曼(Nicole Boeckmann)在新闻稿中说,“在签订延期起诉协议时,孟晚舟已经为她在实施欺骗全球金融机构的计划中所扮演的主要角色承担责任。” 博克曼称,“她在事实陈述中的承认证实,在担任华为首席财务官期间,孟晚舟就华为在伊朗的业务运营向一家金融机构的高级主管作出了多项重大失实陈述,以努力维护华为与该金融机构的银行关系。” 博克曼说,“孟晚舟所隐瞒的关于华为在伊朗业务的真相,对该金融机构决定继续与华为的银行关系非常重要。孟晚舟的承认证实了政府在起诉这一金融诈骗案中的指控的关键--孟晚舟和她的华为员工参与了一项协同努力,就华为在伊朗的活动欺骗全球金融机构、美国政府和公众。”
布鲁克林代理联邦检察官Nicole Boeckmann表示,在达成协议前,“孟晚舟已经承认她在实施对一家全球金融机构的诈骗计划中负主要责任。” 该协议只适用于孟晚舟,美国司法部表示,正在准备针对华为的庭审,并期待在法庭上提出其理据。
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CBC 报道:孟晚舟今天会在美国法院认罪,并交巨额罚款
Huawei''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Meng Wanzhou expected to plead guilty today in U.S. court: sources Huawei''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Meng Wanzhou expected to plead guilty today in U.S. court: sources | CBC News
Huawei executive was arrested back in 2018 on a U.S. extradition request Catharine Tunney · CBC News · Posted: Sep 24, 2021 10:05 AM ET | Last Updated: 34 minutes ago Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou leaves her home for her extradition hearing. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press) 462 comments Chinese tech executive Meng Wanzhou is expected to appear virtually in an American federal courtroom today to plead guilty in the U.S. proceedings against her, say sources. The Huawei Technologies chief financial officer will pay a fine as part of a plea deal, said the sources, who were not authorized to speak publicly. Her court appearance was first reported by Reuters. Sources said if the New York court accepts the deal, Canadian Crown attorneys will appear in a Vancouver court later today to stay extradition proceedings against Meng. She could be free of house arrest as early as today. The U.S. District Court said Meng''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s virtual appearance will be at 1 p.m. ET in a Brooklyn courtroom. Families mark 1,000 days since China''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s detention of Canadians Spavor, Kovrig Decision on Meng Wanzhou extradition rests with judge as marathon hearing concludes Today''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s developments could mark a new phase in the strained relationship between the Canadian and Chinese governments. The 49-year-old Meng was arrested at Vancouver''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s airport on Dec. 1, 2018 on a U.S. extradition request on allegations that she lied to a Hong Kong banker in August 2013 about Huawei''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s control of a subsidiary accused of violating U.S. sanctions against Iran. A few days later, Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig were detained in what is largely seen as an act of retaliation by Beijing against Canada. Both men were charged with espionage. Spavor has been sentenced to 11 years in prison. Michael Kovrig has yet to be sentenced; his trial wrapped in March. CBC''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Journalistic Standards and Practices|About CBC News Report Typo or Error
美国助理检察官大卫·凯斯勒(David Kessler)在听证上对法官说,美国联邦检察官与孟晚舟达成了一份暂缓起诉协议。如果孟晚舟满足某些条件,美国政府将在2022年12月1日,即暂缓期结束时撤销对她的指控。如果她未能履行这项协议的规定,那么她将受到起诉。凯斯勒补充说,孟晚舟将以个人担保的方式被释放,美国计划撤回向加拿大提出的引渡她的请求。
美国司法部周五发表了题为“华为首席财务官孟晚舟承认误导全球金融机构”的新闻稿。纽约东区美国代理检察官妮可·博克曼(Nicole Boeckmann)在新闻稿中说,“在签订延期起诉协议时,孟晚舟已经为她在实施欺骗全球金融机构的计划中所扮演的主要角色承担责任。” 博克曼称,“她在事实陈述中的承认证实,在担任华为首席财务官期间,孟晚舟就华为在伊朗的业务运营向一家金融机构的高级主管作出了多项重大失实陈述,以努力维护华为与该金融机构的银行关系。” 博克曼说,“孟晚舟所隐瞒的关于华为在伊朗业务的真相,对该金融机构决定继续与华为的银行关系非常重要。孟晚舟的承认证实了政府在起诉这一金融诈骗案中的指控的关键--孟晚舟和她的华为员工参与了一项协同努力,就华为在伊朗的活动欺骗全球金融机构、美国政府和公众。”
简单说就是:孟晚舟亲口 承认了所有的责任,这将给美国起诉华为更多的证据,虽然她 pled not guilty。
孟晚舟的身份证件- 来源于法院文件
2001年,孟晚舟移民到加拿大,获得加国永久居民身份-- She moved to Vancouver, Canada, and obtained permanent residency in 2001, But her Confirmation of Permanent Residence was expired in 2009. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-46978631
温哥华法院报道,她当时呈给法庭的永久居民证的连接: Meng Wanzhou’s former permanent resident card was submitted as part of court filings. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/bail-hearing-continues-today-for-huawei-executive-meng-wanzhou https://smartcdn.prod.postmedia.digital/vancouversun/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/meng_2.jpg
呵呵,看了一下进一步的新闻,我本来以为孟至少会认个罪。搞半天连GUILTY PLEA都没有。sorry for some wrongdoing 而已。这就好比本来控告你闹市开枪杀人,最后搞了三年,不控告了。你承认了一个在闹市练习枪法是WRONGDOING,说了句SORRY拍拍屁股走了。可笑不?
对加拿大华人是利好啊,之后可能跟法国一样放开签证了不用人道主义回去了。
估计对华为也就是羊毛
认小罪, 受小罚, 检方同意结案。
不是政治原因, 她的律师早就会替她这样做
教导中国人如何做现代人,全世界人人有责。 加拿大当仁不让
嗯
加拿大两头不是人,惹得一身骚,根本不管他什么事。当初美国要求捉拿孟的时候就应该找个借口不去管,或者说来不及没抓到。
感觉是最后的机会了, 再不认罪, 那就引渡到美国, 打官司吧。
指望拜登抗共?他又派克里去中国了,这么密集的去勾兑,全世界豆看不出来吗? 谈气候?我觉得他们谈什么都不可能谈气候。 别忘了拜登儿子和克里儿子怎么一起在乌克兰赚钱的。
应该是政府同意认罪了,不然孟敢自己认。
不是说她有个孩子在美国读书吗?既然结案了,可以顺路到美国看看娃再回国嘛
上面写的很清楚。她要在布鲁克林美国联邦法院online出庭,在一定程度上认罪,然后裁决放了。当然这只是华尔街日报的报道,最后如何,过几天就知道。
不得不说,拜登比较弱鸡。
刚才发错地方了。 这一贴实回你的
教导中国人如何做现代人,全世界人人有责。 加拿大当仁不让
认罪了会放不奇怪, 当初她要是认罪也是会马上放她回家。 如果是不认罪就放, 那拜登很可能是被伟光正搞定了
当年trump政府律师团队试图跟孟晚舟律师团队谈这个deal结果被孟晚舟无情拒绝的时候 怎么没见你出来说trump比较弱鸡
大国之间除了杀人放火之类的, 大部分都是政治事件, 愚蠢的加拿大政府显然被利用了。 sigh.
应该让美国高等华人来教育中国猴子的。
当然中又赢,答案是固定的
教不会的。义和团马上就是天朝胜利啦,认罪要么不提,要么是策略。
是土共想清楚了。开始以为力压加拿大可以有所收获,演变成扣留人质还丢面子。 最后指示任公主认罪,早认罪就不省了那些律师保安费用。
一旦认罪,任的后半辈子就栽进去了。
对某些人来说,美国对中国人采取的任何行动都可以justify,从整碗粥到整华人教授
人在加拿大 但用視訊在布魯克林出庭
這應該算是
遠距遞解出庭
防疫啊
這年頭流行遠距
這應該算是 遠距遞解出庭
如果这样的话, 还是在美国法庭认罪。亏检方想得出来。
這一招最狠
拜登跟 刁 忽悠 說你幫我把碳排放降下來 算是給我個面子回頭我撤你關稅
結果 刁 在國內四處拉電閘
製造業整個被 刁的拉電閘給玩垮了
拜登這招太狠了
隔离90天,自费
按照你的逻辑,如果美国要求引渡,加拿大就全盘办理,才是司法独立了?被引渡人也有自己的法律权利,所以才有多次开庭审理啊。
遠距遞解出庭認罪
接受的法官 用的是美國的jurisdiction 不用實體遞解 減少防疫風險
这事背后的基本逻辑就是: 在这种层面上,法律程序全是扯淡的,各种程序上的漏洞其实一大堆,不管想朝哪个方向发展都能找到足够的“合法”途径,全看双方政治需要。。
这次也是,核心无非就是所谓认罪认的是哪些罪。。 指控对方杀人,结果最终杀人指控drop,对方承认昨天不小心踩了朵花,这和直接承认杀人当然是两回事。。
你不在乎不代表大家不在乎,你不能代表大家。何况我觉得你不是不在乎,你挺失望。这是给拜登政府清单上的task,不能不做,加拿大是个附属国没有自主权这里大家就别再嘲笑加拿大了,孟晚舟也代表华为低头认罪,当然认了个最轻的罪。能不能最后回国还要看最后的deal
你所有的逻辑和推断都是指着一个方向:中必赢。我们收到了,谢谢。
你所有的言论都是指向一个方向:智商硬伤,我们也早就看到了。。
美国政府不点头,雇佣什么律师都白扯。
跟美国认的是什么罪,现在还没有具体消息出来,不妨等等再说。
楼主说的是加拿大的司法独立问题。
看最后一次加拿大法庭延迟判决就知道。以前推迟还多多少少找个理由。最后一次开庭我都觉得加拿大应该是会引渡了,因为理由实在是不好找了。 结果加法庭连个理由都不给了,直接说推迟到十月,差点没把我笑死。 其实我对孟最后的结果根本没兴趣。看着加拿大在整个事件中的傻逼行为太搞笑了。
二百五通常认为二百五就是人类智商顶点,其他的理解不了
我没有失望哈,我都不知道来龙去脉也没follow,不关心,只知道既得利益者肯定比我过的好/容易,没空关心他们。
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感觉这事让你特别失落。估计明天你看见新闻说中国经济倒退100年,老百姓大饥荒你才能从失落中走出来
法官判決還有一個考慮因素
是判決對社會的影響力
任正飛垮台了
孟 就算放走了
對社會的影響也不大了
那就更明显了,在美国压力下,加拿大司法独立不存在。。 纯粹就是找法律程序理由,来配合政治要求。。
之前中美态度没定,加拿大不想独自背锅,就找各种各样的理由一直拖。。
你把关注点都放自己身上是你自由。但是代表别人就没意思了。而且你不关心还会来看回帖,说不过去啊
审理和宣判本来就有时间差吧。
这应该是不可能的,之前就是太过于信任加拿大司法独立国家才去加拿大,没想到这次看出来加拿大的司法到底是什么了。
找了哪些理由?保障被引渡人的合法权益怎么就变成理由了?
复旦老张的杀人案发生这么久了也没开庭,是不是也是找理由推迟?
你以为是超速罚单都当庭宣判吗
能多学习一下生活常识再来喷好吗
先回去再回来,毕竟家都在海外
不懂引渡法就别信口开河啦
看你一副弱智的样子。
这是一个主权管辖区向另一个主权管辖区被请求国提出引渡请求。现在提出方取消请求,还引渡个屁。
此人根本就不懂什么是法治。 它也不懂美国中国之间, 加拿大最聪明的选择应该是谁? 以为人家煞笔, 因为完全不知道加拿大的立场, 尤其是长久立场和利益。
还以为是法律问题的才是好傻好天真。就算是法律层面,承认引渡条例和具体执行也是两回事。“根据法律我答应帮你做”和”我帮你做到了”的区别。
去年床铺也是让她认罪交钱走人,孟当时没想通而己。
本来孟晚舟事件,绝大部分时候就是一个刑事事件,加拿大的所有操作都是符合司法的,包括现在也是,正常的认罪受罚释放,真当西方这么多年一直想办法坚持的司法独立是笑话。 不能说做到了100%司法独立,但是起码人家一直在坚持,80-90%还是有的。
现在国内的人,满脑袋都是文革思想,用国内那一套来解释,已经跟整个国际社会脱节。
但是国内宣传成美国打压,宣传成公主无罪,所以就僵持住了呗。