herd immunity is not achievable & Israel study

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bbmaomao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU
Recent paradigm shift from the health community in UK and EU to admit that herd immunity is not going to happen. Everybody is expected to meet the virus sometime in the future.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 A pre-print article from Israel showing double vaccinated are at 7-14 increased risk for both infection and hospitalization, than those with natural infection.
今年冬天注定不平凡,buckle up everybody.
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Purple_car
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不能群免 打育苗只防重症的话,就不应该强制
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bbmaomao
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根据以色列的paper,重症都防不了,打两针的比自然免疫的更容易得重症COVID被收住院 (OR=8)。
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gosend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU
Recent paradigm shift from the health community in UK and EU to admit that herd immunity is not going to happen. Everybody is expected to meet the virus sometime in the future.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 A pre-print article from Israel showing double vaccinated are at 7-14 increased risk for both infection and hospitalization, than those with natural infection.
今年冬天注定不平凡,buckle up everybody.
bbmaomao 发表于 2021-09-02 10:46

收好,回头仔细读
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mappycarol
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Purple_car
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军队强制接种这个育苗了?
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wwmm933
打疫苗的比自然免疫容易重症。那你知道自然免疫是怎么得到的吗?那需要先得一次新冠啊!只要疫苗比没感染过的防重症好,那就是有用。难道为了防重症,每个人都去先得一次?
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bbmaomao
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现在的问题是已经pass这个疫苗是否安全了,而是不管是不是安全,打疫苗没有用,即不妨感染也不妨重症。我们应该怎么办?
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bbmaomao
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对,那文章再多家一组彻底immune naive的就完美了。
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Purple_car
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今天一个新闻说那个 scot geottlib 说自然免疫管不了多长时间 所有他说还是得打育苗
就是fda Pfizer的那个人
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mappycarol
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军队没有强制。韭菜们还能干啥?坚决不打就对了。老年痴呆敢推疫苗护照就上街。买枪买子弹。
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Purple_car
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军队没强制就有希望 前段时间白等还要求他们强制呢,以前好像说是10月份
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hello111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRb5hnTseU
Recent paradigm shift from the health community in UK and EU to admit that herd immunity is not going to happen. Everybody is expected to meet the virus sometime in the future.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 A pre-print article from Israel showing double vaccinated are at 7-14 increased risk for both infection and hospitalization, than those with natural infection.
今年冬天注定不平凡,buckle up everybody.
bbmaomao 发表于 2021-09-02 10:46

谢谢。回头看
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vitd120
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今天一个新闻说那个 scot geottlib 说自然免疫管不了多长时间 所有他说还是得打育苗
就是fda Pfizer的那个人
Purple_car 发表于 2021-09-02 11:43

自然免疫管的更久
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lolila368
打疫苗的比自然免疫容易重症。那你知道自然免疫是怎么得到的吗?那需要先得一次新冠啊!只要疫苗比没感染过的防重症好,那就是有用。难道为了防重症,每个人都去先得一次?
wwmm933 发表于 2021-09-02 11:29

是啊 容易重症的人群说不定第一次得就挂了 根本不能自然免疫 这就是拿筛选过的不易重症的人群和一般人比 这种比较都能发文章 我也是服了