- "China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of COVID-19 emerged." - IC can''''t agree on lab-leak or natural - "We judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon."
故意你个大头鬼啊! 你没看link里的第一段的核心啊? link都给你贴了。你得多蠢不会自己看? Key Takeaways The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November 2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December 2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of COVID-19 emerged.
最后一段说的也比较客观。不知道会不会给中国来袋洗衣粉类似的行为。 China’s cooperation most likely would be needed to reach a conclusive assessment of the origins of COVID-19. Beijing, however, continues to hinder the global investigation, resist sharing information and blame other countries, including the United States. These actions reflect, in part, China’s government’s own uncertainty about where an investigation could lead as well as its frustration the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China.
最后一段说的也比较客观。不知道会不会给中国来袋洗衣粉类似的行为。 China’s cooperation most likely would be needed to reach a conclusive assessment of the origins of COVID-19. Beijing, however, continues to hinder the global investigation, resist sharing information and blame other countries, including the United States. These actions reflect, in part, China’s government’s own uncertainty about where an investigation could lead as well as its frustration the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China. Glentower 发表于 2021-08-27 17:55
怎么不提一下文章最后指出无法获得结论的原因?是谁hinder global investigation, resist sharing information, blame other countries including the United States? sayunyan 发表于 2021-08-27 20:42
报告里给原因了啊,怕某国拿了资料,为了政治原因各种spin,搞中国。毕竟有把洗衣服都能spin成化学武器的黑历史。 “These actions reflect, in part, China’s government’s own uncertainty about where an investigation could lead as well as its frustration the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China.”
Several organizations within the sprawling U.S. intelligence community thought the novel coronavirus emerged from "natural exposure to an animal infected with it or a close progenitor virus," according to the summary. But they had only "low confidence" in that conclusion, it said. Other groups were not able to come to any firm opinion at all on the origins. One intelligence community segment, however, developed "moderate confidence" the first human infection with COVID-19 was likely due to a "laboratory-associated incident, probably involving experimentation, animal handling, or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of Virology."
- "China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of COVID-19 emerged."
- IC can''''t agree on lab-leak or natural
- "We judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon."
https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Unclassified-Summary-of-Assessment-on-COVID-19-Origins.pdf
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美国情报局制造价证据的能力还是蛮厉害的,一包洗衣粉就能当证据对伊拉克大打出手,厉害
所以啊,为什么非说是中国故意放的病毒呢?
你觉得美国人会做这样的傻事吗?杀敌1000,自损10000。 但是国内人的和身边的某些国人朋友,都觉得是美国的生化武器。
太可怕了!这对他们的家庭是多大的打击,永远的伤痛!
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这岂不是啪啪打脸哪些本版之前张口闭口信誓旦旦说病毒来源于中国武都所的人吗?
共和党那个报告都不是破绽百出了,是千出了!你见有几个人当真?武毒所修空调花了六亿美元,得多傻逼才相信这种数据和写出这种报告的人?
可以直接把自己掌握的情报给IC或者CIA汇报啊,对了,还有天量大选作弊的证据呢。抓紧啊!
我只是说有这么个事情。有没有说我相信。但普通美国人会信哪一个就不好说了。
这里说有个屁用, IC和CIA都有热线爆料的,直接打过去,快点吧。说不定还能来得及出个修正版。
也有很多普通美国人到现在还相信川普赢得选举呢
武汉0号病人是谁?
故意你个大头鬼啊! 你没看link里的第一段的核心啊? link都给你贴了。你得多蠢不会自己看?
Key Takeaways
The IC assesses that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, probably emerged and infected humans through an initial small-scale exposure that occurred no later than November 2019 with the first known cluster of COVID-19 cases arising in Wuhan, China in December 2019. In addition, the IC was able to reach broad agreement on several other key issues. We judge the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. Most agencies also assess with low confidence that SARS-CoV-2 probably was not genetically engineered; however, two agencies believe there was not sufficient evidence to make an assessment either way. Finally, the IC assesses China’s officials did not have foreknowledge of the virus before the initial outbreak of COVID-19 emerged.
这个硬伤真是太低级了,真不知道共和党哪找的一些人写的,一点基本概念都没用。 最初看到6亿美元这个数字的时候,都觉得这个错误实在是太荒唐太低级了。
cover up了什么?
华人头上的屎还不够多,华人还没有为中共陪葬,渡轮云大失所望。
同学,您这叫提了一个问题(是不是简单咱不评价),不叫说个最简单的事实。
非要往自己脸上抹屎,非要justify 自己是Chinese virus,还能说什么好呢?
最后一段说的也比较客观。不知道会不会给中国来袋洗衣粉类似的行为。 China’s cooperation most likely would be needed to reach a conclusive assessment of the origins of COVID-19. Beijing, however, continues to hinder the global investigation, resist sharing information and blame other countries, including the United States. These actions reflect, in part, China’s government’s own uncertainty about where an investigation could lead as well as its frustration the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China.
难道你认为还是美国实验室起源的???
嗯。。。毕竟这个事情影响太巨大了,载入历史的那种。这段话感觉更多是抱怨吐槽,但是也没啥办法的感觉
这难道不是事实? 而且报告也没有说不是五毒所出来的。
不管抱怨还是陈述,但最后一句说了中国那样做的原因
这位不懂这句话的主和宾?
如果早就知道,必然早就控制,怎么会开始在武汉闹那么大?
调查组支持新冠是自然产生的和支持是实验室泄露的比例是:
3:1
冠状病毒对军龄的健康男性致死率可以忽略不计, 不应该是生化武器的选项。
前面有个人说了,新冠病毒的超强变异性,是人类无法控制的,而且还是通过空气就能传播的。中国十几亿人口那种人口密度,再傻也不会develop这种自己都无法控制的生物武器的,真的是杀敌100,自杀10000那种。
我也不信自然起源 但我信五毒所 故意放毒估计倒是没有这个本事
武器基本不可能,我觉得也许是SARS的失败疫苗随着实验动物流进海鲜市场
这是公开的版本,没有给出具体的东西,就列出几点: 没有证据是人工合成生物武器; 很可能是动物传到武汉所工作人员,然后传开来的; 中国政府隐瞒疫情,拒绝公布实况。 其实这是大部分人一开始就认为的情况,现在只是重复而已。要查出起源,必须中国政府配合,否则不可能的。而且现在太迟了,估计所有的东西都销毁掉了。
什么叫事实?
早期没有普测,也没有全民追踪;
对于一个有不定时间潜伏期,而且存在大量无症状感染者的病毒,如何有可能确定0号病人的?
你来科普一下?
是的。至少近期不会轻易打起来。
早期没有基因图谱。
伟光正笑了,天灾人祸,与我无关
你了解我们独轮运吗就这样说?我们的诉求是自由平等,如果为了不管什么目的使自己着眼点不在找出事实真相而在于宁愿歪曲事实,那么跟我们所反对的独裁者有什么不同。事实就是事实,没人有资格对事实失望,事实被掩盖被歪曲才会让人失望。如果你觉得现在事实大白于天下了,那么对不起让你失望了因为这不是能让我们失望的理由,如果你在庆幸事实终于无法被人得知了,那么我们的确是对这个失望。所以你觉得我们失望是因为现在是第二种情况吗?
还追求事实,别往自己脸上贴金了,你们不配!你们轮子撒过多少谎,造过多少谣,传过多少谣,自己心里真的没数吗?
问这个问题的人大概没法理解你说的这个.
到现在为止,大家还不知道HIV的Patient Zero吧。 https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/health/hiv-patient-zero-genetic-analysis.html
首先啊,您自称独轮运合适么?您是这三者中的哪一种?
其次,事实,除非您亲眼看到亲身经历,否则都是从其他途径得到的第二手第三手或者更多手的信息。现在只是出来了某一个调查结果而已。如果有人就是希望多了解事实,那么她们不应该失望,应该高兴,因为多了点信息。如果有人希望某个结果,那么她们有可能失望,有可能高兴。您是哪种呢?
至于啥“诉求是自由平等”,这大口号就不用喊了。就算真是,关键问题是,那是您唯一的诉求么?至少,从表现出来的看,这里很多人在这个起源问题上是有非常明确的立场的。如果这次调查结果能够帮助/打击他们的立场,那么感到高兴或者失望,不是很正常么?难道您认为那些在这里使劲宣传新冠病毒是中国制造的同学们,所有人都能像您(自称的)一样,不以物喜,不以己悲,只要多点“事实”就够了?
真相可能永远不会有了。但在XX亲自指挥,亲自部署下,包括清洗华南海鲜市场,处分上传病毒测序序列科研人员,严禁未经同意科研人员上传病毒序列,少将接管,阻止WHO调查,传讯李文亮…,从那样的环境出来的人心里难道没点数?
都这帮科学家搞的破事,啥比例我都不信,各种模糊
但结果呢,大家都看见了,然后还想出来了个投毒
故意不可能的,又不是恐怖分子
就是说我啥也没查出来,牛了
就是那些高喊Chinese virus一心害美华的人渣
你赶紧打电话把楼主漏掉的让情报部门加上。最后去做个证就是你泄露感染的,跑到美国传毒的,证据就全了,美国人民一定会感谢你的。
那就还是实验室意外泄露了
是啊。齐刷刷洗脑好的我都不想我家人视频了
这帮王八真丢中国人的脸。为一张绿卡可以把什么都卖了。
基本就是一个无头案了。所有的证据数据该清的都被清干净了。
好奇你们哪里来的那么多绝密信息,要不直接取代CIA得了
报告的结论赤裸裸地满足美国政府的最大利益:没有结论,但是指出没有结论的原因(中共阻挠调查)。刀在手上,已经出鞘,但是没有砍出来。好比下围棋打烂劫,无休无止,不死不休。
如果结论是中共实验室泄露,中共未必买账,美国目前也未必有胆量和决心立刻彻底翻脸(推动民间索赔、冻结中共海外资产)。
如果结论是并非中共实验室泄露,那拜登直接辞职算了。估计支持率将会直奔个位数。
中共的对策似乎是死硬到底。五毒所消毒干净之后(消毒不干净也无所谓),你敢亮刀子,我就敢骂人。好处是一毛钱不掏。坏处(好处?双赢?)是和西方关系永远只能变坏,不能变好。
所以,这情报部门是没搞到正常渠道搞不到的情报?还是说搞到了但没公布?
This three conclusions have nothing to do with what you said !
对的。虽然我不喜欢中共,但真的是 暗暗捏了一把汗。
是的!这就是报告背后的意思,没直接说出来罢了。然后拜登再发一封敦促中共的声明,也没有任何强硬措施。估计也就这样了吧。
不斩楼兰誓不休
没搞到
报告里给原因了啊,怕某国拿了资料,为了政治原因各种spin,搞中国。毕竟有把洗衣服都能spin成化学武器的黑历史。 “These actions reflect, in part, China’s government’s own uncertainty about where an investigation could lead as well as its frustration the international community is using the issue to exert political pressure on China.”
这段话说的很客观
这些人基本就是川粉和独轮运
那个麻花辫没当成Chinese Virus是心有多不甘
你们是轮独运?
他自己承认自己是轮子了,还有什么好说的。
别假充内行了,现在多少种动物里都发现了新冠,中间宿主的candidate不要太多。
川粉 独运论高度重合,他们跟五毛重合度倒是不大,但本质是一样的,非蠢极坏 但凡脑子和良心有一样都不会是这三种人之一
灵馆工作人员你好,除了造谣,你傻还会干什么,希望你能自觉注册为D的代言人。
解密版给TG留点面子。 保密版 已经确定是 病毒来源于中国武都所
瓷器国倒是找呀 找呀 找呀 天天跳脚扯自己头发打自己耳光骂脏话全宇宙甩锅 就是死也不自查 不公开早期病例 那么把军运会病人的病例公开呀 忘记当时看病的医院言之凿凿白纸黑字写说是疟疾
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-intelligence-community-still-divided-covid-19s-origin-summary-2021-08-27/
看了这个报道摘要,基本上是没有定论。但是实验室事故的可能性属于moderate confidence, 自然起源属于low confidence. 但是因为中国不合作,起源无从可查。
Several organizations within the sprawling U.S. intelligence community thought the novel coronavirus emerged from "natural exposure to an animal infected with it or a close progenitor virus," according to the summary. But they had only "low confidence" in that conclusion, it said. Other groups were not able to come to any firm opinion at all on the origins.
One intelligence community segment, however, developed "moderate confidence" the first human infection with COVID-19 was likely due to a "laboratory-associated incident, probably involving experimentation, animal handling, or sampling by the Wuhan Institute of Virology."
有病毒的动物就叫中间宿主?你先Google一下吧