Over the last 28 days, 85 local cases required oxygen supplementation, were admitted to the ICU, or died. Of them, 53 are unvaccinated, 24 are partially vaccinated and eight are fully vaccinated. As of Thursday, about 7.9 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered under the national vaccination programme. Some 4.34 million have received at least one dose of the vaccine, with some 3.68 million having completed the full vaccination regimen. This means that 67 per cent of the population have completed their full regimen, or received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines under the national vaccination programme, and 78 per cent have received at least one dose. https://news.yahoo.com/97-new-covid-cases-in-singapore-including-29-unlinked-120204583.html
Over the last 28 days, 85 local cases required oxygen supplementation, were admitted to the ICU, or died. Of them, 53 are unvaccinated, 24 are partially vaccinated and eight are fully vaccinated. As of Thursday, about 7.9 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered under the national vaccination programme. Some 4.34 million have received at least one dose of the vaccine, with some 3.68 million having completed the full vaccination regimen. This means that 67 per cent of the population have completed their full regimen, or received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines under the national vaccination programme, and 78 per cent have received at least one dose. https://news.yahoo.com/97-new-covid-cases-in-singapore-including-29-unlinked-120204583.html SSBN826 发表于 2021-08-09 14:17
Despite a recent increase in the number of serious cases in Israel, including among the fully vaccinated, those who received both doses of the vaccine against COVID-19 are significantly less likely to experience severe illness, according to data released by the Israeli Health Ministry.
一直在等以色列数据,终于有一篇详细的报告出炉,建议各位都去看一下。 另外,前几天yahoo上另外一篇文章,关于以色列breakthough cases的,以色列现在数据表明,打完两针疫苗即便被breakthough,传染给其他人的概率比不打疫苗的患者要低很多! https://www.yahoo.com/now/israeli-data-suggest-infected-vaccinated-174912509.html But even though the data suggest that breakthrough infections may become more common over time (in the U.S., they make up a far lower share of new cases), there''s evidence that those individuals are not spreading the virus frequently or widely. Preis explained that, excluding instances of household spread, 80 percent of vaccinated individuals who have been infected have "zero contacts" that have been confirmed to have contracted COVID-19 because of their connection. About 10 percent of those vaccinated, infected individuals have just one contact who likely caught the virus from them, while fewer than 10 percent have more than one contact who later tested positive. "Their ability to infect others is 50 percent lower than those who are not vaccinated," Preis said.
这种傻图没有什么价值。谁都知道break through rate受行为影响很大,如果单纯讨论break through rate而不考虑vaccine rate 对行为的影响,就没有什么实际用处。换句话说,打了疫苗带口罩和打了疫苗不戴口罩,这会相差很大。 疫苗的保护率是假设行为,身体状况一样的条件下,打疫苗和不打疫苗得病的概率的比较。目前随着打疫苗比例的升高,打疫苗人和不打疫苗人行为的区别越来越大,年龄段段又非常的不同,已经无法从简单的新闻数据来推算任何有意义的疫苗保护率。必须对数据做近一步的分析,包括sample的年龄,身体状况,行为安全性,以及被感染的方式做分类后,再进行比较才能有意义。版上的大妈就不比费这力气了。 不相信美国的数据,不打就是的了。
你看这篇文章了吗?里面写的很清楚: As of Thursday, 120,665 doses of the China-made vaccine have been administered to 79,297 individuals. 才8万人打科兴,比例是很低的。 SSBN826 发表于 2021-08-09 15:46
Over the last 28 days, 85 local cases required oxygen supplementation, were admitted to the ICU, or died. Of them, 53 are unvaccinated, 24 are partially vaccinated and eight are fully vaccinated. As of Thursday, about 7.9 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered under the national vaccination programme. Some 4.34 million have received at least one dose of the vaccine, with some 3.68 million having completed the full vaccination regimen. This means that 67 per cent of the population have completed their full regimen, or received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines under the national vaccination programme, and 78 per cent have received at least one dose. https://news.yahoo.com/97-new-covid-cases-in-singapore-including-29-unlinked-120204583.html SSBN826 发表于 2021-08-09 14:17
美国CDC:99.5%重症病人是未打疫苗的。
Over the last 28 days, 85 local cases required oxygen supplementation, were admitted to the ICU, or died. Of them, 53 are unvaccinated, 24 are partially vaccinated and eight are fully vaccinated. As of Thursday, about 7.9 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered under the national vaccination programme. Some 4.34 million have received at least one dose of the vaccine, with some 3.68 million having completed the full vaccination regimen. This means that 67 per cent of the population have completed their full regimen, or received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines under the national vaccination programme, and 78 per cent have received at least one dose. https://news.yahoo.com/97-new-covid-cases-in-singapore-including-29-unlinked-120204583.html
预料楼下要扯政治,请不要扯政治,很无聊,就是论事。 版主请严格执行闹事的和挑拨离间的。扯政治自己开楼,大家都欢迎。
https://covid19.mohw.gov.tw/
Moderna and Pfizer。打科兴的不计在内。
以色列是不是打得比美国早
没学过统计学吧?如果你需要99.99%confidence level, 也许数据点不够,如果只要99%的话已经足够了。
谢谢 那看来打一针真的不行啊
如果一个社会100%打过疫苗,那么100%突破病例和所有的重症都是打过疫苗的。所以说明疫苗完全无效?
不要想当然,你看得懂这张图吗? 需要学一下数学的应该是你吧。 https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2715427&postid=89477166#89477166
台湾主要打的什么疫苗?
+1
新加坡医护的确打Pfizer的多,但是一般人群也有不少打灭活的好像。
就楼主给的新加坡数据来看,疫苗保护率95%
计算公式如下, 67%的人口打了疫苗,占八例, 33%的人口没有打完疫苗,占77例
未打疫苗感染比例为77/33=2.33 打疫苗感染比例为8/67=0.12 2.33/(2.33+0.12)=95%
如果按照疫苗保护率95%来算,那么如果一个州打疫苗的人口只有30%,ICU里的病人会有98%左右都是不打疫苗人群。而一个州如果95%打了疫苗,那么ICU里50%都是打完疫苗的。
但是,去年冰岛因为新冠死亡30人,今年到目前为止,只有一个1个COVID患者在五月去世。可以看到疫苗目前为止还是非常有效的。
你把打一针的也归到未打疫苗的了。CDC是说完全未打疫苗的。 即使只说两针保护率,也只有95%。
如果你记得上个月新加坡的数据,那时候两针没有重症。所以下个月的数据很关键,有可能两针的重症率还会增加。
冰岛多少接种率?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-israeli-graphs-that-prove-covid-vaccines-are-working-1.10101640
你学一点逻辑吧! 别现眼了。
你看这篇文章了吗?里面写的很清楚: As of Thursday, 120,665 doses of the China-made vaccine have been administered to 79,297 individuals.
才8万人打科兴,比例是很低的。
数据太少,不能证明第三针有BOOST作用,但也不能证明第三针没有BOOST作用!懂吗?
这种新闻贴出来,没有任何意义。
引用这篇数据报告里面的话:
Despite a recent increase in the number of serious cases in Israel, including among the fully vaccinated, those who received both doses of the vaccine against COVID-19 are significantly less likely to experience severe illness, according to data released by the Israeli Health Ministry.
一直在等以色列数据,终于有一篇详细的报告出炉,建议各位都去看一下。 另外,前几天yahoo上另外一篇文章,关于以色列breakthough cases的,以色列现在数据表明,打完两针疫苗即便被breakthough,传染给其他人的概率比不打疫苗的患者要低很多!
https://www.yahoo.com/now/israeli-data-suggest-infected-vaccinated-174912509.html
But even though the data suggest that breakthrough infections may become more common over time (in the U.S., they make up a far lower share of new cases), there''s evidence that those individuals are not spreading the virus frequently or widely. Preis explained that, excluding instances of household spread, 80 percent of vaccinated individuals who have been infected have "zero contacts" that have been confirmed to have contracted COVID-19 because of their connection. About 10 percent of those vaccinated, infected individuals have just one contact who likely caught the virus from them, while fewer than 10 percent have more than one contact who later tested positive. "Their ability to infect others is 50 percent lower than those who are not vaccinated," Preis said.
按这图,95%保护率的话,需要99%以上的注射率才会50%的ICU是打过疫苗的(黄色曲线)。 或者你能指出这图哪错了?
和打疫苗之前的感染率重症率比较。现在宣传疫苗有效的数据都是manipulated,因为群体免疫算疫苗加自然感染已经达到,如果无效就是疫苗免疫无效。
这一帖子跟一伙点赞的,一看就是统计基本常识都没学的
哈哈. 他们如果不带的话, 我都不习惯了.
这种傻图没有什么价值。谁都知道break through rate受行为影响很大,如果单纯讨论break through rate而不考虑vaccine rate 对行为的影响,就没有什么实际用处。换句话说,打了疫苗带口罩和打了疫苗不戴口罩,这会相差很大。
疫苗的保护率是假设行为,身体状况一样的条件下,打疫苗和不打疫苗得病的概率的比较。目前随着打疫苗比例的升高,打疫苗人和不打疫苗人行为的区别越来越大,年龄段段又非常的不同,已经无法从简单的新闻数据来推算任何有意义的疫苗保护率。必须对数据做近一步的分析,包括sample的年龄,身体状况,行为安全性,以及被感染的方式做分类后,再进行比较才能有意义。版上的大妈就不比费这力气了。
不相信美国的数据,不打就是的了。
如果打了疫苗戴不戴口罩会让结果很不同的话,不正说明疫苗的保护率不高吗?
先搞清楚啥叫疫苗保护率。
如果100%打过疫苗,那么没打过疫苗的数据是NA,相当于没有对照组,无法比较
我极度怀疑现在CDC被批评面对delta没有数据,很可能是他们有但故意隐藏数据,不愿公开
要么是打了就飘了 要么是ade呀
目前打了一针的我好动摇
台湾人自己都不信了,你还看台湾数据
那我不知道,我不是台湾人。你从哪里看到台湾人大部分不信的还是一两个台湾人不信?
还有人口密度,这个和感染率也相关。美国人口密度还是低很多。疫苗肯定是有效的,只是rna病毒易突变➕个体差异,所以增加疫苗有效性。
————— 67%打两针的人中有8个重症,
11%(78%-67%)打一针的人中有24个重症, 22%(1-78%)未打针的人中有53个重症。
学点生物和医学再来讨论吧
我覺得以色列和新加坡的數據都比較可信 另外 歐美一些國家疫苗覆蓋率高的情況下 將來有注射疫苗的重症比例很有可能會比新加坡的還要糟糕 因為新加坡民眾即使打了疫苗的人帶口罩比率依然很高 保持較安全的社交距離 和歐美的情況完全不同
有什么事实依据,还是你的观点?
科兴不算在接种人群里的 END
真要用统计学的的话,就得揪的深一点了,尤其是病人分布。比如病人人群分布,是劳工多,还是服务员多,两边病人群一样吗
我觉得cdc数据没什么问题。美国现在接近2亿已经接种,一亿6千万完全接种。按完全接种人群算,99.5%对应的0.5%感染率,也就是接近80万break through案子,如果按接种算,要一百万的接种感染,不算少了。美国每天新增接近10万也就这几天的事情。
另外为什么新加坡和美国的break through比例差别这么大。你拿新加坡人均居住密度这么大的鼻屎小国跟美国这种人均居住密度低的国家比,本身就是个错误。你真要比,要拿新加坡跟纽约或者洛杉矶这种大城市比较。
很显然。。。。新加坡以色列
CDC就特么joke
Colala2021说的基本正确,是你的图错了。
(1-A)*X/(1-X)=Y/(1-Y)
假设重症保护率95% 接种率95%
A=0.95 X=0.95
(1-0.95)*0.95/(1-0.95)=Y/(1-Y)
Y=0.95/1.95=49%
台湾本岛的新闻YouTube上多的数不胜数,稍微看看都知道台湾的防疫数字有多扯….
你自己看得懂这张图里的计算公式吗?你这张图中的公式是对的但曲线根本画得不对。
(1-A)*X/(1-X)=Y/(1-Y)
假设保护率95% 接种率99.99%
A=0.95 X=0.9999
(1-0.95)*0.9999/(1-0.9999)=Y/(1-Y)
breakthrough rate Y=499.95/500.95=99.8%
所以java说的没错:
如果一个社会100%打过疫苗,那么100%突破病例和所有的重症都是打过疫苗的。