第一个是可以用这个legal document，要求公司HR要签字，你才会打。HR肯定会怂。 https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf NOTE TO EMPLOYER: As your employee, I am requesting that you review this document, provide the requisite information, and sign the form, in regards to your requirement that employees get a Covid- 19 emergency use authorization (EUA) investigational vaccine. 第二个是还可以找自己的家庭医生开medical exempt的证明信，VAERS数据库里面有这么多side effects，找一个可能跟自己相关的，比如说你本来血小板就低一点，打疫苗有额外出血风险，或者在准备怀孕等等，联系上VAERS数据库里面的data，让自己的家庭医生写了信，HR就没有办法了。 如果得过covid有抗体的jm们，还可以还可以加上这个新的paper https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2 Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells Summary Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients. 大家要抗争！坚持一下就是胜利。这个mandate的趋势很快就会扭转的。看以色列和英国的最新数据，形势已经越来越明朗了，很快他们就要编不下去了。 下面回给purplebasil的回复，贴在这里。 你给别人扣帽子之前先发证据。我怎么反对所有疫苗了？不要血口喷人。 我确实发过帖子，里面说的是正经发表的paper，也是给大家提供更多信息做思考。我原来在家小发的每个帖子都有论文支持，大家可以自己去找。 我家老大打完2-month checkup疫苗回家之后立马skin rash之后就是好几年的eczema，做父母的不要一味的相信专家和权威的意见，要自己搜集信息自己做informed consent。当然跟你说这些你也不一定懂，并不是所有人都有科学素养，都可以自己分析信息做出独立判断。 看完研究之后我自己的判断是，孩子太小的时候一下子打太多疫苗就是对免疫系统压力太多，所以老二的时候疫苗都是分散开一次一针打的。我们家所有的常规疫苗都是up to date的，但我也同情和理解被疫苗injured的孩子和他们的父母们。 这个帖子回在这里，为了让大家看到有些人不就事论事讨论强制政策和疫苗的数据，而是一上来就进行人身攻击。这种行为真是好幼稚。现在幼儿园和kindergarten就教小朋友们要problem solve，而不是name calling。看来有些人的素质真是，呵呵。。。
第一个是可以用这个legal document，要求公司HR要签字，你才会打。HR肯定会怂。 https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf NOTE TO EMPLOYER: As your employee, I am requesting that you review this document, provide the requisite information, and sign the form, in regards to your requirement that employees get a Covid- 19 emergency use authorization (EUA) investigational vaccine. 第二个是还可以找自己的家庭医生开medical exempt的证明信，VAERS数据库里面有这么多side effects，找一个可能跟自己相关的，比如说你本来血小板就低一点，打疫苗有额外出血风险，或者在准备怀孕等等，联系上VAERS数据库里面的data，让自己的家庭医生写了信，HR就没有办法了。 如果得过covid有抗体的jm们，还可以还可以加上这个新的paper https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2 Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells Summary Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients. 大家要抗争！坚持一下就是胜利。这个mandate的趋势很快就会扭转的。看以色列和英国的最新数据，形势已经越来越明朗了，很快他们就要编不下去了。 freys 发表于 2021-08-01 21:49
第一个是可以用这个legal document，要求公司HR要签字，你才会打。HR肯定会怂。 https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf NOTE TO EMPLOYER: As your employee, I am requesting that you review this document, provide the requisite information, and sign the form, in regards to your requirement that employees get a Covid- 19 emergency use authorization (EUA) investigational vaccine. 第二个是还可以找自己的家庭医生开medical exempt的证明信，VAERS数据库里面有这么多side effects，找一个可能跟自己相关的，比如说你本来血小板就低一点，打疫苗有额外出血风险，或者在准备怀孕等等，联系上VAERS数据库里面的data，让自己的家庭医生写了信，HR就没有办法了。 如果得过covid有抗体的jm们，还可以还可以加上这个新的paper https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2 Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells Summary Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients. 大家要抗争！坚持一下就是胜利。这个mandate的趋势很快就会扭转的。看以色列和英国的最新数据，形势已经越来越明朗了，很快他们就要编不下去了。 freys 发表于 2021-08-01 21:49
没有必要那么麻烦，宗教信仰豁免比啥都强，只是要注意你的信仰是否坚定，信仰的力量是远远高于观点的。比如，我是鲁道夫.斯坦纳的粉丝，我相信： ”In the future we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of view’ there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and spirit. To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles. With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this earth by spiritual will. So the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual”.
第一个是可以用这个legal document，要求公司HR要签字，你才会打。HR肯定会怂。 https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf NOTE TO EMPLOYER: As your employee, I am requesting that you review this document, provide the requisite information, and sign the form, in regards to your requirement that employees get a Covid- 19 emergency use authorization (EUA) investigational vaccine. 第二个是还可以找自己的家庭医生开medical exempt的证明信，VAERS数据库里面有这么多side effects，找一个可能跟自己相关的，比如说你本来血小板就低一点，打疫苗有额外出血风险，或者在准备怀孕等等，联系上VAERS数据库里面的data，让自己的家庭医生写了信，HR就没有办法了。 如果得过covid有抗体的jm们，还可以还可以加上这个新的paper https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2 Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells Summary Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients. 大家要抗争！坚持一下就是胜利。这个mandate的趋势很快就会扭转的。看以色列和英国的最新数据，形势已经越来越明朗了，很快他们就要编不下去了。 freys 发表于 2021-08-01 21:49
第一个是可以用这个legal document，要求公司HR要签字，你才会打。HR肯定会怂。 https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf NOTE TO EMPLOYER: As your employee, I am requesting that you review this document, provide the requisite information, and sign the form, in regards to your requirement that employees get a Covid- 19 emergency use authorization (EUA) investigational vaccine. 第二个是还可以找自己的家庭医生开medical exempt的证明信，VAERS数据库里面有这么多side effects，找一个可能跟自己相关的，比如说你本来血小板就低一点，打疫苗有额外出血风险，或者在准备怀孕等等，联系上VAERS数据库里面的data，让自己的家庭医生写了信，HR就没有办法了。 如果得过covid有抗体的jm们，还可以还可以加上这个新的paper https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2 Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells Summary Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients. 大家要抗争！坚持一下就是胜利。这个mandate的趋势很快就会扭转的。看以色列和英国的最新数据，形势已经越来越明朗了，很快他们就要编不下去了。 freys 发表于 2021-08-01 21:49
感谢mm分享。疫苗exempt在美国是个常见的procedure，每个州都有自己的立法来协调。宗教，医学或者个人原因是大部分州都承认的赦免原因。网上也有很多tutorial and template，指导怎么阐述原因和申请赦免。根本不存在有人说的作弊。楼里出言不逊的可能根本就不知道这回事。不用理会。 还有，很多州已经决定了，这次新冠疫苗赦免标准遵从measles vaccine exempt guidelines.有需要的人可以自己搜索。
IVM? FDA有专门这个的网页啊： https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too. There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. That is wrong. Even the levels of ivermectin for approved uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.
看了回复，真是对华人上整体的科学素养担忧。有太多人是随大流不独立思考，把关系自己和家庭健康这件天大的事外包给别人来决定。 人身攻击的人，只能显示出你自己本身的素质低。能帮到有些jm，我这个贴就没有白发。就说到这里。
第一个是可以用这个legal document，要求公司HR要签字，你才会打。HR肯定会怂。 https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf NOTE TO EMPLOYER: As your employee, I am requesting that you review this document, provide the requisite information, and sign the form, in regards to your requirement that employees get a Covid- 19 emergency use authorization (EUA) investigational vaccine.
第二个是还可以找自己的家庭医生开medical exempt的证明信，VAERS数据库里面有这么多side effects，找一个可能跟自己相关的，比如说你本来血小板就低一点，打疫苗有额外出血风险，或者在准备怀孕等等，联系上VAERS数据库里面的data，让自己的家庭医生写了信，HR就没有办法了。
如果得过covid有抗体的jm们，还可以还可以加上这个新的paper https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2
Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells
Summary Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients.
大家要抗争！坚持一下就是胜利。这个mandate的趋势很快就会扭转的。看以色列和英国的最新数据，形势已经越来越明朗了，很快他们就要编不下去了。
下面回给purplebasil的回复，贴在这里。 你给别人扣帽子之前先发证据。我怎么反对所有疫苗了？不要血口喷人。 我确实发过帖子，里面说的是正经发表的paper，也是给大家提供更多信息做思考。我原来在家小发的每个帖子都有论文支持，大家可以自己去找。 我家老大打完2-month checkup疫苗回家之后立马skin rash之后就是好几年的eczema，做父母的不要一味的相信专家和权威的意见，要自己搜集信息自己做informed consent。当然跟你说这些你也不一定懂，并不是所有人都有科学素养，都可以自己分析信息做出独立判断。 看完研究之后我自己的判断是，孩子太小的时候一下子打太多疫苗就是对免疫系统压力太多，所以老二的时候疫苗都是分散开一次一针打的。我们家所有的常规疫苗都是up to date的，但我也同情和理解被疫苗injured的孩子和他们的父母们。 这个帖子回在这里，为了让大家看到有些人不就事论事讨论强制政策和疫苗的数据，而是一上来就进行人身攻击。这种行为真是好幼稚。现在幼儿园和kindergarten就教小朋友们要problem solve，而不是name calling。看来有些人的素质真是，呵呵。。。
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我觉得很有可能沉默的那些是真沉默 才不会天天跳出来说我打了疫苗但我是沉默的大多数
是的 很多人谨小慎微
看了你这贴 我把前面的60%改到50%
一路看下来，你对自己的评价挺准确的。 有自知之明的人不多见了。继续保持。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
如果是真的就还好，如果是假的，lz是公然教人做假。
层主有疑问为什么不自己research一下呢？
如果是真的，欢迎跟我们分享，假的，也欢迎分享
你以为CDC没造假？你以为美国媒体和专家们这一年多来没说过假话？
都揭出来吓你个跟头，小白兔。
说的有理！再坚持一下，Lambda就要来了，致死率只有6%，马上就世界和平了
反正输的是打过的呗，承担了可能的疫苗风险，也承担了不打疫苗的人带来的风险。
家庭医生难道是你的仆人？你说开证明就开？
唉，其实没用 就算找着理由不打，公司不让进，也是分分钟被孤立、甚至被开
架不住这么多同事都打了，也架不住老板三天两头问。摊上个推疫苗的老板不打不行啊。参加版上某些人骂人的架势
正好相反，我认为楼主很睿智，并且正是因为她不自私，才会发这个帖。 打不打疫苗，每个人都应该做好自己的research，为自己和家人的身体健康负责。
谢谢
这么简单的问题也要明知故问，最简单的比喻: 打疫苗就如同猪变香肠，没有回头路，楼主说的大家，肯定是指还没有变成香肠的人啊，胜利当然就是指没被强迫变成香肠了，呵呵
所以你也认为打疫苗有害，是牺牲，那你强迫别人打算不算逼良为娼？
而且最近的数据根本表明疫苗不防传染，你保护了谁？
大概是病毒本毒发的帖吧
To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life.
He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles.
With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body.
Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this earth by spiritual will.
So the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual”.
很多公司已经强制要求打，不打就开除。你这种legal document屁用没有，hr看都不会看你一眼。都是at will employment，你不打是你的事，那就别在这工作了，还签document呢，你以为公司你开的？
为了自己和家人的健康不打疫苗 那你为啥要去上班呢？病毒浓度那么高，传染性那么强，多危险啊
把国内学来的奴性继续在美国发扬光大。不去抗争一下永远是韭菜的命。
大家不要过于恐慌，刚问了在医院工作的朋友，他们医院已经很久没有covid住院的病人了。
lz还是跳槽吧，Hobby Lobby比较适合
这个楼主原来不只是不同见解，而是教唆欺骗，这个太出格。
哪里的医院 报个zip code吧
太看得起lz了 这种智商能找着工作吗？
爱信不信，出卖朋友的事我可不干。还说了去年covid住院高峰期住院的那些病人，基本上本来都有各种严重的毛病。
没准儿想忽悠得别人辞职或丢工作她接盘?
this guy need to be baned
需要证明自己是回民吗？
说的是。本来楼主是给没打疫苗的人看的。一群打过的凑啥热闹？已经是香肠了。
说这样的话，你有证据吗？
我有中国的身份证，结婚证，还有我小孩在国内的出生证标注回族。这个没有撒谎。不过上面herbs MM说的那个人人都可以借用。
promote IVM 神药的。
感谢mm分享。疫苗exempt在美国是个常见的procedure，每个州都有自己的立法来协调。宗教，医学或者个人原因是大部分州都承认的赦免原因。网上也有很多tutorial and template，指导怎么阐述原因和申请赦免。根本不存在有人说的作弊。楼里出言不逊的可能根本就不知道这回事。不用理会。
还有，很多州已经决定了，这次新冠疫苗赦免标准遵从measles vaccine exempt guidelines.有需要的人可以自己搜索。
申请 permanent WFH 就好了。
果然智商逻辑感人，比喻要有共同点这小学生都知道吧。怪不得反疫苗的很多是home school 家庭出来的，教育质量堪忧啊。
有证据我说没准儿?就兴lz忽悠人，我猜测一下动机不可以?华人这个平台也是胆大，任由虚假信息传播。
恶意的揣测只会显得自己人格低劣
re，依照美国家庭医生的德行，年检时多问个一两句话就要charge钱，不觉得他们会为了lz的个人利益额外花时间写证明甚至配合造假。
嗯哼
我也是拖字诀 最近风声不对
IVM? FDA有专门这个的网页啊： https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
The FDA has not reviewed data to support use of ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or to prevent COVID-19; however, some initial research is underway. Taking a drug for an unapproved use can be very dangerous. This is true of ivermectin, too. There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. That is wrong. Even the levels of ivermectin for approved uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.
是的 这件事证明多少人不愿自己思考 多少人给点钱就让说啥就说啥
恩 that is the real issue
你说的是“矢志不渝”推IVM的楼主？
说个zip code就说不出来了？不然说个county也行，说个county 就出卖你朋友？那你在这造谣出卖谁啊？自己吧
胜利属于Cucker Tarlson，楼主这样的属于炮灰
有同感 我也不行了
打疫苗是保護自己 關別人屁事
还是那句话，爱信不信。当然我从她了解不只那一点。我想说的就说，不想说就不说。
弱弱的问一句 为什么总看到有人说不打疫苗的人自私？这样推论是说打了疫苗的人无私吗？无私在什么地方呢？现在的大量数据显示疫苗保护的是自己而不是别人啊 delta在打过和没打过的人中间的viral load差不多啊 那不打疫苗的人最多只是害了自己 也没比打了疫苗的人更能害别人吧 反而没打可能更小心 而打了的因为自以为保护了自己反而更容易不小心而感染并传给别人呢
请高人解惑
打疫苗后高调圣母嘴脸的最自私！
原来疫苗研发和批准紧急使用的时候delta variant还没出现呢。当时临床试验结果表明打疫苗会减少对当时流行的病毒株系的感染和重症概率，所以打疫苗既是促进群免也是保护自己。疫苗关于Delta variant的防护效果也是最近才有结果，但也不是一点防传染的效果都没有，而是没有alpha variant那么高效，而且防重症效果依然不错。所以即使到现在，打疫苗仍然是保护他人和保护自己的最好的手段之一。
至于口罩政策，我觉得CDC的确有点夸张了。从头到尾号召大家带口罩不知道为什么在美国会这么难？那些追求自由和独立思想不愿相信科学家的美国人民不愿打疫苗也就算了，连理解戴口罩能防止飞沫传染都这么费劲！
好奇层主多大年纪？怎么就活了大半辈子了😂😂
到现在还在说不打疫苗就是自私的这种人，脑子早就瓦特了，疫苗也拯救不了
保护自己保护他人最好的办法不是疫苗。吃药口罩酒精都更有用。印度上个月把WHO某官员告了。他说吃药没用。如果判决有罪，这家伙误导印度，死刑妥妥的。政府推疫苗的架势堪比汽车销售。推销time share都没这么起劲。好东西还要这么费劲推销？当民众都是傻子吗？
测两次肛拭子
人说的是一种可能性
打了疫苗也会传播，病毒载量一样。如果为了确定工作环境安全，得全员酸检测。
你是哪个城市呀？我们这边因新冠住院的可多了，看看全国数据就知道了吧？