WASHINGTON - Director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Rochelle Walensky expressed concern over new data that shows that vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar."
回复 5楼cistim的帖子 这英语你自己看不懂就开始喷了啊 看看原话:“vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar." 我帮你翻译,如果感染了的话,病毒载量是类似的。这句话里面哪里不清楚了
回复 5楼cistim的帖子 这英语你自己看不懂就开始喷了啊 看看原话:“vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar." 我帮你翻译,如果感染了的话,病毒载量是类似的。这句话里面哪里不清楚了 MikeyAL 发表于 2021-07-27 18:04
回复 5楼cistim的帖子 这英语你自己看不懂就开始喷了啊 看看原话:“vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar." 我帮你翻译,如果感染了的话,病毒载量是类似的。这句话里面哪里不清楚了 MikeyAL 发表于 2021-07-27 18:04
WASHINGTON - Director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Rochelle Walensky expressed concern over new data that shows that vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar."
WASHINGTON - Director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Dr. Rochelle Walensky expressed concern over new data that shows that vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar."
SDVERDE 发表于 2021-07-27 17:29
这句话容易引起误解,看看后面的内容,她说的是一旦感染delta 变种,打过疫苗的和没打过的所带的病毒量类似,也具有传播能力。这和以往的变种不同。 "We are actively conducting outbreak investigations of what’s occurring in places that are having clusters... What we’ve learned in that context, is when we examine the rare breakthrough infections and we look at the amount of virus in those people, it’s pretty similar to the amount of virus in unvaccinated people," Walensky said. The news comes as the CDC announced new recommendations on Tuesday that vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the coronavirus is surging.
这句话容易引起误解,看看后面的内容,她说的是一旦感染delta 变种,打过疫苗的和没打过的所带的病毒量类似,也具有传播能力。这和以往的变种不同。 "We are actively conducting outbreak investigations of what’s occurring in places that are having clusters... What we’ve learned in that context, is when we examine the rare breakthrough infections and we look at the amount of virus in those people, it’s pretty similar to the amount of virus in unvaccinated people," Walensky said. The news comes as the CDC announced new recommendations on Tuesday that vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the coronavirus is surging. 六月天 发表于 2021-07-27 19:01
终于承认了
所以呢? 疫苗照样强推
每个人(打了的, 和不打的)自己衡量
就咱版上的common sense都还知道要带口罩,cdc才发现了
不给任何details,才好随时改。
裙带
这英语你自己看不懂就开始喷了啊
看看原话:“vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant of the novel coronavirus carry viral loads that "are actually quite similar." 我帮你翻译,如果感染了的话,病毒载量是类似的。这句话里面哪里不清楚了
基本就是疫苗没用
所以抗体对变种完全无效?
也没保护啊 vaccinated and unvaccinated people infected by the delta variant
CDC 是AA 的 反智不奇怪啊 美国没人拿CDC当圣旨 自己看数据分析啊
你考过GRE逻辑没?不明白你怎么根据引言得出这个结论的
举个例子,如果疫苗保护了99%的感染 但是如果你不幸是那个1% 免疫系统有问题,那你还是感染了的话,病毒载量和没有打疫苗感染的人数量差不多
明白啦?
你考过吗? 你哪里看到疫苗保护了99%的感染?
已经懒得吐槽你这个英文阅读能力了 咋说呢 不说GRE 就是4级恐怕也没过吧?
要不你就是故意胡搅蛮缠断章取义,搞不懂到底是哪种
哈哈哈, 还四级, 笑死人了
不和你说了, 反正大家自己看着心里有数就行
现在疫苗对感染的保护肯定没有99%。。。比以前多1000多倍的病毒灌进来,粘膜里面那点的抗体的作用可能已经不是很大了,被突破以后主要看的是第二道防线,看记忆B细胞和记忆T细胞能不能快速动员起来分泌新的抗体和分化出CD8+ T细胞,避免感染扩展到下呼吸道
很多人只看 headline,不去想想99%是怎么算出来的?
现在以色列那只有39%的有效率了,美国过两三个月也会下降到这个 level。
要理解, 可能有时差
RE
真是受不了这里反疫苗那几个天天在 spread misinformation, 自己还看不懂英文原文。
现在民主党的人都很多出来支持疫苗自保了,真是搞不懂这里怎么这么多反智的。
所以几个红州州长会置若罔闻。
cdc 话还能信吗?
这句话只是说打了的和没打的感染了d病毒,病毒量是一样的,其他的意思是你自己加的。 同时这句话也表明不了打了和没打的,感染d病毒的感染率有什么区别。
如果数据都会出来,cdc是等着说过话一个个被证吗? 为什么这样呢,是在拖时间吗。
过不了两三个月的,现在美国的数据就不可信,五月份开始CDC就不追踪breakthrough case了,鬼才信住院的99%是unvaccinated, 这些数据完全可以被他们操控。
数据不可信了,怎么做判断呢。
结论: 不能防重症?
白宫自己都拒绝透露白宫工作人员的breakthrough case, 遮遮掩掩的,挺烦
这句话就是说只要感染d冰毒的,病毒量近似。因为就两种人,打的和没打的。
其他没有任何结论,包括d冰毒感染率和是否接种的关系,已经接种疫苗感染d病毒后是否能防重症。
就当个参考吧,可以看以色列,英国的数据作对比。反正现在我去超市都是带两层口罩,N95+外科口罩,加上护目镜,疫情以来最严格防护
搭车问一下,你买的哪种护目镜?
就挺普通的护目镜,边上能遮挡的,有点大,我就直接架在近视眼镜上面,反正总比不戴强一点吧
这句话容易引起误解,看看后面的内容,她说的是一旦感染delta 变种,打过疫苗的和没打过的所带的病毒量类似,也具有传播能力。这和以往的变种不同。
"We are actively conducting outbreak investigations of what’s occurring in places that are having clusters... What we’ve learned in that context, is when we examine the rare breakthrough infections and we look at the amount of virus in those people, it’s pretty similar to the amount of virus in unvaccinated people," Walensky said. The news comes as the CDC announced new recommendations on Tuesday that vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the coronavirus is surging.
可以给个link吗,谢谢!
我基本不出门,但去邮局的话两个kn95。我不去超市。 我觉得得买个护目镜。太阳镜管吗?
明明有轻症和重症之分,病毒量一样是什么意思。不同的人体质不一样,感染后病毒量怎么可能一样。 这些玩意越看越蹊跷
99% 只是举个个例子。上面好多人误认为CDC 说的是打过没打过得病的机会类似。
防雾化的宽体游泳眼镜就可以。我买了20个备着,本想着用不到了,刚收起来
这个带着出门不起雾吗?
有防雾化的。我还没有用,不知道效果
拜托给个link,谢谢哈
你可以不信。不要因此整天传播疫苗无用论就行了。
一步一步, 让大家慢慢接受?
只是就事论事。拜托你不要先入为主戴有色眼镜看人。 别人只是质疑,而不是不信。 所有人都希望疫苗安全有效,尽快结束疫情。 真的假不了,假的真不了。你急什么呢。
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