New £50 note featuring Alan Turing goes into circulation Note honouring mathematician, computer pioneer and codebreaker contains advanced security features
The new £50 note goes into circulation on Wednesday – but with consumers increasingly going cashless, for millions of people it may be months or even years before they see or touch one. It’s been around for 40 years, but the £50 note doesn’t have a great image: there is a perception that aside from some overseas tourists, the only people who use them are criminals, tradespeople looking to evade tax and gamblers. ATMs rarely give them out, and some shops don’t like taking them, either because they are worried about counterfeit notes or it would mean handing over all the change in their till.
不了解才问啊。英国科学家很多，挑他出来，我觉得还是跟同性恋有关。 In 2009, following an Internet campaign, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for "the appalling way he was treated". Queen Elizabeth II granted Turing a posthumous pardon in 2013. The "Alan Turing law" is now an informal term for a 2017 law in the United Kingdom that retroactively pardoned men cautioned or convicted under historical legislation that outlawed homosexual acts.[16]
来，看看英文报道，是不是把他的计算机上的成就跟同性恋放在一起说的。 https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/981242121/new-u-k-currency-honors-alan-turing-pioneering-computer-scientist-and-code-break The Bank of England has unveiled the new £50 note featuring mathematician and computer science pioneer Alan Turing, who helped the Allies win World War II with his code-breaking prowess but died an outcast after facing government persecution over his homosexuality. Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, noted in prepared remarks that Turing is arguably best known for his code-breaking work, which historians credit with shortening World War II by about two years and saving millions of lives. But far beyond that, he said, Turing''s pioneering work in computing and artificial intelligence "has had an enormous impact on how we all live today." "Alan Turing was a gay man, whose transformational work in the fields of computer science, codebreaking, and developmental biology, was still not enough to spare him the appalling treatment to which he was subjected," Bailey said. "By placing him on this new £50 banknote, we celebrate him for his achievements, and the values he symbolises, for which we can all be very proud." LGBTQ advocates on social media celebrated the new bank note as an overdue step towards increasing visibility. Jeremy Fleming, director of the Government Communications Headquarters, said in a statement that Turing''''s appearance on the new banknote celebrates his scientific genius and "confirms his status as one of the most iconic LGBT+ figures in the world." "Turing was embraced for his brilliance and persecuted for being gay," Fleming said. "His legacy is a reminder of the value of embracing all aspects of diversity, but also the work we still need to do to become truly inclusive."
我觉得各种考虑都有吧？short list 4个人，Rosalind Franklin, Ada Lovelace, Stephen Hawking，也不比他差，最后选他，跟他在LGBTQ运动中的地位肯定是有关系的。Bank of England 都没有避讳这个，版上几个恐同反应那么大。 purplebasil 发表于 2021-06-30 14:25
你怎么就那么单线条？Turing在计算机上的成就不朽，在LBGT运动中的作用也不朽啊！他是LGBT历史上最有名的人之一 ("confirms his status as one of the most iconic LGBT+ figures in the world")，为此还通过了一个2017法案。怎么到你这里就成了无聊的八卦呢？真是大脑扁平智商欠费。
我觉得各种考虑都有吧？short list 4个人，Rosalind Franklin, Ada Lovelace, Stephen Hawking，也不比他差，最后选他，跟他在LGBTQ运动中的地位肯定是有关系的。Bank of England 都没有避讳这个，版上几个恐同反应那么大。 purplebasil 发表于 2021-06-30 14:25
这有啥argue的。说这跟他是gay有关，也不是抹杀他的成就和地位。官方也是这样子解释的啊。 Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, said: "He was a leading mathematician, developmental biologist, and a pioneer in the field of computer science. "He was also gay, and was treated appallingly as a result. By placing him on our new polymer £50 banknote, we are celebrating his achievements, and the values he symbolises."
本来我也不知道选他的原因是什么啊，所以提供一个可能性. 他是一个科学牛人，也是一个有名的受迫害的gay，两个都可以是他被选上的理由，LZ说了一个，我说了另外一个，Bank of England的声明里面把两个都说了 我不怕露怯，我又不是学这个的 所以你们说说嘛！ purplebasil 发表于 2021-06-30 16:07
支持你。 第一句往往是重点。 说他lgbt又不是抹杀他的贡献或是贬低他， 他的贡献和他受到的待遇会引起公众极大的同情，这是政府对他的错误惩罚的一种悔过， 也是极好的机会宣扬minority, inclusive, diversity的机会。 这帮跳起来攻击你说他是gay才被选的往往是最歧视lgbt的人， 虚伪。 “Alan Turing was a gay man, whose transformational work in the fields of computer science, codebreaking, and developmental biology, was still not enough to spare him the appalling treatment to which he was subjected," Bailey said. "By placing him on this new £50 banknote, we celebrate him for his achievements, and the values he symbolises, for which we can all be very proud."
The new £50 note goes into circulation on Wednesday – but with consumers increasingly going cashless, for millions of people it may be months or even years before they see or touch one.
It’s been around for 40 years, but the £50 note doesn’t have a great image: there is a perception that aside from some overseas tourists, the only people who use them are criminals, tradespeople looking to evade tax and gamblers.
ATMs rarely give them out, and some shops don’t like taking them, either because they are worried about counterfeit notes or it would mean handing over all the change in their till.
现在是both
科技。你了解下这个出台的前后就清楚了啊。约翰逊一直想改变英国人对科技不重视的老问题了。
不了解才问啊。英国科学家很多，挑他出来，我觉得还是跟同性恋有关。
In 2009, following an Internet campaign, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for "the appalling way he was treated". Queen Elizabeth II granted Turing a posthumous pardon in 2013. The "Alan Turing law" is now an informal term for a 2017 law in the United Kingdom that retroactively pardoned men cautioned or convicted under historical legislation that outlawed homosexual acts.[16]
真的受不了你这种人。。。你不配谈论图灵
就好像如果中国把老舍等人印纸钞上一样
就很讽刺
恩，你配，那你多谈谈。 他是同性恋，他的死本来就是同性恋维权运动的一个重要话题。 我知道他在密码学的重大作用，也知道计算机有个牛叉的图灵奖。 但是，英国科学家很多，挑他出来，跟同性恋完全无关？ 我就是问问LZ的题目，踩谁尾巴了？
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/981242121/new-u-k-currency-honors-alan-turing-pioneering-computer-scientist-and-code-break
The Bank of England has unveiled the new £50 note featuring mathematician and computer science pioneer Alan Turing, who helped the Allies win World War II with his code-breaking prowess but died an outcast after facing government persecution over his homosexuality.
Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, noted in prepared remarks that Turing is arguably best known for his code-breaking work, which historians credit with shortening World War II by about two years and saving millions of lives. But far beyond that, he said, Turing''s pioneering work in computing and artificial intelligence "has had an enormous impact on how we all live today."
"Alan Turing was a gay man, whose transformational work in the fields of computer science, codebreaking, and developmental biology, was still not enough to spare him the appalling treatment to which he was subjected," Bailey said. "By placing him on this new £50 banknote, we celebrate him for his achievements, and the values he symbolises, for which we can all be very proud."
LGBTQ advocates on social media celebrated the new bank note as an overdue step towards increasing visibility. Jeremy Fleming, director of the Government Communications Headquarters, said in a statement that Turing''''s appearance on the new banknote celebrates his scientific genius and "confirms his status as one of the most iconic LGBT+ figures in the world." "Turing was embraced for his brilliance and persecuted for being gay," Fleming said. "His legacy is a reminder of the value of embracing all aspects of diversity, but also the work we still need to do to become truly inclusive."
当智商不够的时候，就攻击诋毁人家的私生活
(前几天是翁杨恋，今天轮到了图灵)
翁杨恋，和杨的物理成就比起来，九牛一毛，不值一提。杨的成就即使几千年后，也会流芳百世。
图灵同理。
所谓公众观点，乃至(当年英国的)法律 (这些几十年就会变的东西)，在这些伟人不朽的，永恒的成就面前就是P。
讨论这些非凡人物的时候，非要纠住人家的私生活不放，就是智商不够，8卦来凑。
你恐同吗？我支持同性恋，我觉得是同性恋不是什么值得羞耻的事，何来诋毁一说？看来你觉得很羞耻？说都说不得？说他是同性恋就削弱了他在计算机科学的地位？shame on you!
最后是4个候选人，Rosalind Franklin, Ada Lovelace and Stephen Hawking，也都是牛人
This is only a foretaste of what is to come, and only the shadow of what is going to be.
Turing的那个苹果应该送给你吃才对
知耻而后勇，总比某国现在强调文革是正确方向只是其中犯了一点小错误要强吧？
为什么不能是重视同性恋高科技呢
翁杨恋，和杨的物理成就比起来，九牛一毛，不值一提。杨的成就即使几千年后，也会流芳百世。
图灵同理。
公众观点，乃至(当年英国的)法律 (这些几十年就会变的东西)，在这些伟人不朽的，永恒的成就面前就是P。
讨论这些非凡人物的时候，非要纠住人家的私生活，就是智商不够，8卦来凑。
我发这个帖子时真没想到回帖会围绕其他话题吵起来，一头雾水中。
我觉得各种考虑都有吧？short list 4个人，Rosalind Franklin, Ada Lovelace, Stephen Hawking，也不比他差，最后选他，跟他在LGBTQ运动中的地位肯定是有关系的。Bank of England 都没有避讳这个，版上几个恐同反应那么大。
贼喊捉贼。。。这帖子就你跳最欢了，你不恐同谁恐同
你不配谈论图灵
你怎么就那么单线条？Turing在计算机上的成就不朽，在LBGT运动中的作用也不朽啊！他是LGBT历史上最有名的人之一 ("confirms his status as one of the most iconic LGBT+ figures in the world")，为此还通过了一个2017法案。怎么到你这里就成了无聊的八卦呢？真是大脑扁平智商欠费。
我不恐同啊，我觉得他是同性恋不是什么丢脸的事。他是科学家，然后又是同性恋名人，印在钞票上一箭双雕，非常好。
……讲真，我觉得其他三位确实不如他。
图灵机是进了数理逻辑课本的，图灵奖是可以和诺贝尔奖对标的计算机学科最高奖，其他那三位没哪位做到这两点了吧。
“双雕”？请分清主次，何为九牛，何为一毛
我觉得都有吧，倒不是完全只对同性恋，他也是政府表明对diversity重视的一个标志，对自己以前系统性迫害少数人群（包括同性恋）的一个反思吧
这样的讨论很好，很健康，请继续。
我也觉得是这样，两方面的考虑。
如果是牛顿vs图灵二选一，选了图灵不选牛顿，那倒的确可能是有LGBTQ的因素；这四位放一起，就算图灵是直男也一样会胜出的。
我倒是很希望美帝政府学学这个，哪天把香农给印到钞票上去。
这么说吧，大学招生只能招一个，两个学生成绩和成就（九牛）都差不多，最后就是那一毛比较重要。 我觉得short list上面4个都是牛人。 从影响力来看，通过2017图灵法案，也是对整个LGBT群体意义重大的。
好奇牛顿是被印在什么钞票上面了吗？
同意，另外那三个，不如图灵。尤其是未来科技发展趋势的地位上看更是。
对！所以高斯被印在德国马克上主要是因为高斯娶过两个老婆，(还生过6个孩子，符合每个夫妇生3胎的最新政策)，所以在 short list 上胜出！
想不明白为毛要印在50镑上，平时都难得一见的，也就新闻出来的时候有点影响。应该印在10镑20镑上，哪怕是5镑上呢！
你比coalpilerd 差远了。LOL!
俺用的正是你的逻辑啊！
你逻辑不行啊！你听说过高斯法案？造福了哪类人群？是the most iconic 二婚男六娃爸？ 类比举例都举不出个象样的，羞死算了。
Enigma吗？那玩意从编码解码的角度而言，使用的技术十分古老，破解Enigma对于图灵这种级别的牛人而言就是玩票吧。
我以前只知道他是 theoretical computer science (e.g. computational complexity, 密码学 这类跟数学相关的computer science) 的奠定人，这跟人工智能有什么关系呢？
牛顿上过一英镑，感觉一般熟悉的英国名人基本都上过钞票了，所以轮到图灵真没什么问题
麻烦先了解一下什么叫“图灵测试”，再去讨论同性恋
我已经讨论完同性恋了，不管你爱听不听。 你也一样，想讨论就讨论，不想讨论就算了 :)
Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, said: "He was a leading mathematician, developmental biologist, and a pioneer in the field of computer science. "He was also gay, and was treated appallingly as a result. By placing him on our new polymer £50 banknote, we are celebrating his achievements, and the values he symbolises."
哈哈，承认了就好：
智商不够 知识也不够
所以就只能讨论人家私生活了 LOL
我又不是搞计算机的，又不是懂王，当然有知识不够的点 但是，你大脑扁平啊，就算某些知识丰富，看问题太平面也是硬伤，这个没药可救，可惜了 能把图灵法案看成一个单纯的私生活问题的，也太不关心社会问题和弱势群体了。
人工智能本来就是计算机理论的一个分支的应用，你要不是学cs 的，就真想当然了
好好一个帖子，明明是你立刻跳出来把性取向拿出来说事儿的，现在就别反咬一口了，给自己留个脸
留个影，第四层楼就开始扯同性恋，一直扯了五六页，没完没了
CS的专业人员来了。
我对计算机理论的认识的确很粗浅，我只知道 computational complexity => one-way function => 密码学 的关系。AI我知道得很少，身边有些号称做 machine learning的，为什么我看象是高维的贝叶斯模型呢？是不是我接触的人水平不行？
主要是你自己不行：眼睛总盯着下三路，目光短浅。
不要总在(周围)别人身上找你自己的问题，努力提高你自己的修养，眼光，和知识面才是正途。
again，我不觉得讨论图灵的性趋向有什么不妥的，为什么你们觉得不妥？Bank of England 也把这拿出来说啊！
你这个人就不能就事论事的解释一下吗？ 喏，有效的沟通可以是： ML并不是高维的贝叶斯模型 , or AI 跟 ML 不是一码事, or 图灵测试是检验AI的标准, or some other reasons 。。。
不明显是把他的性取向置于他的成就之上的，后面说的话也暴露了你根本不懂他的成就在哪里。你就非要这么露怯么？
本来我也不知道选他的原因是什么（LZ引用的原文也没有说），所以提供一个可能性. 他是一个科学牛人，也是一个有名的受迫害的gay，两个都可以是他被选上的理由，LZ说了一个，我说了另外一个，Bank of England的声明里面把两个都说了
我不怕露怯，我又不是学这个的 所以你们说说嘛！
支持你。 第一句往往是重点。 说他lgbt又不是抹杀他的贡献或是贬低他， 他的贡献和他受到的待遇会引起公众极大的同情，这是政府对他的错误惩罚的一种悔过， 也是极好的机会宣扬minority, inclusive, diversity的机会。 这帮跳起来攻击你说他是gay才被选的往往是最歧视lgbt的人， 虚伪。
“Alan Turing was a gay man, whose transformational work in the fields of computer science, codebreaking, and developmental biology, was still not enough to spare him the appalling treatment to which he was subjected," Bailey said. "By placing him on this new £50 banknote, we celebrate him for his achievements, and the values he symbolises, for which we can all be very proud."
这几者的关系么，机器学习是实现人工智能的手段之一。高维贝叶斯是实现机器学习的算法之一。
图灵的贡献在于人工智能的理论基础而不是具体的算法。如果把整个人工智能的领域比喻作一棵树，那么图灵的贡献就是长出这棵树的种子，你认识的那几位哥们是树叶。
就是你最好了！很复杂的事能说得很清楚 :)
历史上最牛X的三个苹果 (以正视听)：
1) 亚当夏娃那个 2) 砸到牛顿那个 3) 图灵咬的那个
网上有人居然把苹果公司那个也算上，笑话！!!
麻烦去看下苹果公司那个商标苹果的缺口，显然是在致敬图灵咬的那一口
乔布斯比这个世界上的很多人都有自知之明：他再牛逼，他的那个苹果也不可能和这三个苹果比。
板上收入最高的码农群体的祖师爷。按照老规矩他们开工前需要上香的人物...上个钞票也没啥问题吧！