洗地到这种程度也太无耻了。今天CNN的头条是，家属们开记者会，催促加快救援。灾后救援只有所谓的黄金72小时，到现在为止，都两天了，只不紧不慢地找到一具尸体。这要是发生在天朝，你和你的同事们起码上蹿下跳开好几贴，每贴骂上几十页。 “国际救援界认为，震后24小时内救出的被埋压人员救活率可达90％，48小时内救活率为50％至60％，72小时内救活率为20％至30％。” https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/27/us/miami-dade-building-collapse-sunday/index.html Some families frustrated by pace of search and rescue efforts in Florida building collapse
华邮的一篇偏于专业的深度报道 https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/building-experts-miami-condo-collapse Sara Nir, a resident, told The Post that shortly before 1 a.m., she noticed loud “knocking” noises that she assumed were caused by construction work. Around 1:14 a.m., she heard a noise that she thought sounded like a wall crashing down, and she left her ground-level apartment to complain to a security guard in the lobby. She estimated that about a minute later, while she was in the lobby, she heard a very large boom and saw that part of the surface-level parking area — and part of the pool deck — had collapsed into the underground parking garage. She and the two of her children who were home at the time then ran from the building. Nir’s son called 911 at 1:19 a.m., he said, a time that he said he confirmed by checking the time stamp on his phone. About a minute later, a dispatcher with Miami-Dade County Fire and Rescue called for an engine to respond to an alarm at the building, audio shows. According to additional EMS audio, the building collapsed between 1:24 and 1:25 a.m. while Engine 76 was en route.
千里之堤毁于蚁穴是一个道理。小漏会损坏结构。这个楼的泳池和主楼是用同一个水泥结构连起来的. 也许小漏没引起重视, 疏忽了。
有决心就能救了？这么容易要不你上吧。
美国的建筑质量 真是 。
西方国家里罕见的差
地基沉降肯定是因数之一，泳池漏水应该影响不大，因为支撑柱靠的是混凝土抗压，里面的钢筋y是为了防剪切力。楼粉碎性崩塌应该是整体强度不行了，预制板连接处锈蚀最可疑。
这救援看起来不是再玩耍吗？？？我擦。
在美国生活，不但要会使抢，还要懂流体力学啥的。 在厉害国会识别个真假鸡蛋也就够了啊。
STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE SEARCH AND RESCUE PROCEDURES (redoakfirerescue.com)
US standard rescue protocol on structure collapse, it is still on search and rescue stage, the large scale debris removal with heavy machinery will be the last step (all other means are exhausted and assume no one under debris is still alive)
检修是专业人士做的。只要会读英文就可以了。LOL 你真的在美国生活吗？难道我们都亲手装暖气管道，装roof？
为啥有些人来了美国，就变成贱得不能再贱，顺得不能再顺的顺民了呢？
厉害国还是别来蹭热度了。
想挑拨美国，急死你们了吧。
看轮子们怎么反驳
家属都能开记者会能催促救援，你都能援引救灾的黄金时间了，“我和我的同事们”还需要什么上窜下跳。天朝那样封锁言论，棒打受害者才有“我和我同事们”的用武之地好吗？如果哪一天天朝也到了不需要“我和我的同事们”上窜下跳骂几十页也能少点党性多点人性，我对于我的失业那是再开心不过了。有种就跟天朝怼，闹的我失业呀。
我们轮子不屑于反驳CCTV的新闻。
缓慢且艰难地进行着.....还真是如此啊
楼都碎成那样了，人被拍在下面还能活？8小时内挖出来都是死的。 只不过姿态做好的话，会让活着的人舒服些。美国人的救援，尤其消防员，都是第一时间判断值不值得救，不值得救就控制不让蔓延，然后房子有保险公司赔。 救人命的话，不是很知道细节。。。。。
要是塌下来有楼板互相撑着，人生还的可能性还有。塌的连个缝隙都没有，10分钟都没命了。
不知道现在一直洗“救也白救”的是什么心理，新闻说昨天还听到里面发出声音了，但是找不到人
但我们民主制度可以纠错
-老将泣不成声
我看新闻里有提到，这个塌房基本上可以等同于大型坠机事件，所以”幸存”几率大家基本有谱了。
老有人替能自由上电视台、上街，可以合法持枪的美国民众操心，也算是行使了监督权吧
你怼我也没用。我又不是救援人员。我只是说出了我看到的而已。楼板都碎成那样了，就算侥幸有个别人在夹封里幸存下来了，稍微用点外力，就会有二次坍塌。大型挖掘机只会让他们死的更快点。要是下面的楼板结实点，能撑住还行，要不然就是做作表面功而已。这和地震的那些楼不一样。
所以，以后发生类似事件就不要浪费人力物力了，大家自求多福，你是这个意思吗？
你想个法子，让那些碎的水泥板瞬间移动，让那些人生还。。。。。。，光动嘴皮子谁不会动啊。那么多专业的人，你以为人家真的是光吃饭的？要是有保险的方案早就行动了。还有那些家属，上大型挖掘机要行的话，以美国人的性子，自发的都带着挖掘机上了。。。。。。。你当这是国内，会派200个武警拦着人群，10个人救援？
主动救，有可能成功把埋下下面得幸存得人救出，也很有可能失败
在旁边看着，那些底下幸存的没吃没喝，说不定还是重伤的人，能撑得过72小时？
这应该就是板上说的拿钱发帖吧，不然难以解释奇异的脑回路，满嘴胡说八道，和自己做不好拉别人背锅的心理
想自杀的？
美国的社会体制，福利体制，城市规划，建筑质量
在整个西方国家可以说是个奇葩吧
西方国家里的中国吧
哎
没有质量，没有监督，没有城市规划部门
希望大家多加入民主党的进步派吧
好好反思一下美国的社会问题
美国，一个全世界最富有的国家，
本来可以建设的比北欧更加漂亮，安全
但是被自由资本主义搞的乱七八糟
你认为要是地震就会努力救了？这要是地震估计救援都不露面了。
有些人眼里美国一起都是完美的，科学的。
还有一个可能你没想到：主动救，救人的人也有可能一块被埋进去！主动救，本来在夹缝里能生存的也死了……
那你说那些家人为啥不自己救？按照你的理论，只要出钱雇个挖掘机团队就好了……
吓人。
Sara Nir, a resident, told The Post that shortly before 1 a.m., she noticed loud “knocking” noises that she assumed were caused by construction work. Around 1:14 a.m., she heard a noise that she thought sounded like a wall crashing down, and she left her ground-level apartment to complain to a security guard in the lobby.
She estimated that about a minute later, while she was in the lobby, she heard a very large boom and saw that part of the surface-level parking area — and part of the pool deck — had collapsed into the underground parking garage. She and the two of her children who were home at the time then ran from the building.
Nir’s son called 911 at 1:19 a.m., he said, a time that he said he confirmed by checking the time stamp on his phone. About a minute later, a dispatcher with Miami-Dade County Fire and Rescue called for an engine to respond to an alarm at the building, audio shows. According to additional EMS audio, the building collapsed between 1:24 and 1:25 a.m. while Engine 76 was en route.