TikTok insiders say social media company is tightly controlled by Chinese parent ByteDance https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/25/tiktok-insiders-say-chinese-parent-bytedance-in-control.html This recruiter, along with four other former employees, told CNBC they''''''''''''''''re concerned about the popular social media app''''''''''''''''s Chinese parent company, which they say has access to American user data and is actively involved in the Los Angeles company''''''''''''''''s decision-making and product development. These people asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution from the company. The former employees who spoke to CNBC said the boundaries between TikTok and ByteDance were so blurry as to be almost non-existent. Most notably, one employee said that ByteDance employees are able to access U.S. user data.This was highlighted in a situation where an American employee working on TikTok needed to get a list of global users, including Americans, who searched for or interacted with a specific type of content — that means users who searched for a specific term or hashtag or liked a particular category of videos. This employee had to reach out to a data team in China in order to access that information. The data the employee received included users'''''''''''''''' specific IDs, and they could pull up whatever information TikTok had about those users. This type of situation was confirmed as a common occurrence by a second employee. 这个指控貌似很严重,拜登政府刚刚放过抖音就爆出这条新闻,看来有人不想放过它。这些MSM以前枪口都是对准川普的,现在没了川普全对准中国了。 底下有人故意搅浑水,是不是赌大多数人不读新闻内容。上面讲的不是什么国内用户能看到美国人视频,而是Tiktok美国员工当时需要美国用户的数据,他们的做法是向中国的数据中心申请,而中国母公司有权限拿到所有Tiktok的数据。Tiktok当初向美国政府保证中国拿不到美国人数据。 (更正一下:原文没说数据存在中国,而是说中国母公司能拿到所有Tiktok数据)
再结合今年6月初的一条新闻, Tiktok改了自己的隐私政策,现在可以收集美国人的生物数据。 Businessinsider, June 3, 2021 TikTok rolled out major updates to its privacy policy on Wednesday, including adding a new section that allows the ByteDance-owned company to collect US users' biometric information. "We may collect biometric identifiers and biometric information as defined under US laws, such as faceprints and voiceprints, from your User Content. Where required by law, we will seek any required permissions from you prior to any such collection," the new policy reads. As noted by TechCrunch, which earlier reported on the changes, that language could allow TikTok the ability to collect most US users' biometric data without explicitly asking them, due to the fact that only a few states have laws restricting companies from collecting such data.
TikTok insiders say social media company is tightly controlled by Chinese parent ByteDance This recruiter, along with four other former employees, told CNBC they''''re concerned about the popular social media app''''s Chinese parent company, which they say has access to American user data and is actively involved in the Los Angeles company''''s decision-making and product development. These people asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution from the company. The former employees who spoke to CNBC said the boundaries between TikTok and ByteDance were so blurry as to be almost non-existent. Most notably, one employee said that ByteDance employees are able to access U.S. user data.This was highlighted in a situation where an American employee working on TikTok needed to get a list of global users, including Americans, who searched for or interacted with a specific type of content — that means users who searched for a specific term or hashtag or liked a particular category of videos. This employee had to reach out to a data team in China in order to access that information. The data the employee received included users'''' specific IDs, and they could pull up whatever information TikTok had about those users. This type of situation was confirmed as a common occurrence by a second employee. 这个指控貌似很严重,拜登政府刚刚放过抖音就爆出这条新闻,看来有人不想放过它。这些MSM以前枪口都是对准川普的,现在没了川普全对准中国了。 底下有人故意搅浑水,是不是赌大多数人不读新闻内容。上面讲的不是什么国内用户能看到美国人视频,而是Tiktok美国员工当时需要美国用户的数据,他们的做法是向中国的数据中心申请,需要的用户信息是从中国数据中心传过来的,美国用户在Tiktok上的所有用户信息中国数据中心都有。而Tiktok当初向美国政府保证中国拿不到美国人数据。 何小满 发表于 2021-06-26 04:03
这个文章里还真解释了Tiktok (now Bytedance as well)能拿到哪些数据:比如名字,坐标,性别,爱好等等等等。所以比如这些年轻人长大了要进入美国政坛.那么中国政府手里就已经有一套他/她的私人信息。
TikTok's privacy policy explains that the app collects all kinds of data. This includes profile data, such as users' names and profile images, as well as any data users might add through surveys, sweepstakes and contests, such as their gender, age and preferences. The app also collects users' locations, messages sent within the app and information about how people use the app, including their likes, what content they view and how often they use the app. Notably, the app also collects data on users' interests inferred by the app based on the content that users view. Most importantly, TikTok also collects data in the form of the content that users generate on the app or upload to it. This would include the videos that users make.
这个文章里还真解释了Tiktok (now Bytedance as well)能拿到哪些数据:比如名字,坐标,性别,爱好等等等等。所以比如这些年轻人长大了要进入美国政坛.那么中国政府手里就已经有一套他/她的私人信息。
TikTok''''s privacy policy explains that the app collects all kinds of data. This includes profile data, such as users'''' names and profile images, as well as any data users might add through surveys, sweepstakes and contests, such as their gender, age and preferences. The app also collects users'''' locations, messages sent within the app and information about how people use the app, including their likes, what content they view and how often they use the app. Notably, the app also collects data on users'''' interests inferred by the app based on the content that users view. Most importantly, TikTok also collects data in the form of the content that users generate on the app or upload to it. This would include the videos that users make. 何小满 发表于 2021-06-26 17:30
像我们这种小老百姓当然不知道中国情报部门如何运用这些数据，你觉得他们会发报道让大家知道？你以为我是中情局工作的？但这个很难理解吗？中国公司利用这些数据的报道例子比比皆是。其实美国公司也是这么搞得。私人公司得到数据自然用作商业用途，外国政府拿到了数据自然搞情报用途。现在大数据分析如此厉害，这些social media 的数据就是情报单位的宝藏。
再结合今年6月初的一条新闻, Tiktok改了自己的隐私政策,现在可以收集美国人的生物数据。 Businessinsider, June 3, 2021 TikTok rolled out major updates to its privacy policy on Wednesday, including adding a new section that allows the ByteDance-owned company to collect US users' biometric information. "We may collect biometric identifiers and biometric information as defined under US laws, such as faceprints and voiceprints, from your User Content. Where required by law, we will seek any required permissions from you prior to any such collection," the new policy reads. As noted by TechCrunch, which earlier reported on the changes, that language could allow TikTok the ability to collect most US users' biometric data without explicitly asking them, due to the fact that only a few states have laws restricting companies from collecting such data. 何小满 发表于 2021-06-26 11:43
TikTok insiders say social media company is tightly controlled by Chinese parent ByteDance https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/25/tiktok-insiders-say-chinese-parent-bytedance-in-control.html This recruiter, along with four other former employees, told CNBC they''''''''''''''''re concerned about the popular social media app''''''''''''''''s Chinese parent company, which they say has access to American user data and is actively involved in the Los Angeles company''''''''''''''''s decision-making and product development. These people asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution from the company. The former employees who spoke to CNBC said the boundaries between TikTok and ByteDance were so blurry as to be almost non-existent. Most notably, one employee said that ByteDance employees are able to access U.S. user data.This was highlighted in a situation where an American employee working on TikTok needed to get a list of global users, including Americans, who searched for or interacted with a specific type of content — that means users who searched for a specific term or hashtag or liked a particular category of videos. This employee had to reach out to a data team in China in order to access that information. The data the employee received included users'''''''''''''''' specific IDs, and they could pull up whatever information TikTok had about those users. This type of situation was confirmed as a common occurrence by a second employee. 这个指控貌似很严重,拜登政府刚刚放过抖音就爆出这条新闻,看来有人不想放过它。这些MSM以前枪口都是对准川普的,现在没了川普全对准中国了。 底下有人故意搅浑水,是不是赌大多数人不读新闻内容。上面讲的不是什么国内用户能看到美国人视频,而是Tiktok美国员工当时需要美国用户的数据,他们的做法是向中国的数据中心申请,而中国母公司有权限拿到所有Tiktok的数据。Tiktok当初向美国政府保证中国拿不到美国人数据。 (更正一下:原文没说数据存在中国,而是说中国母公司能拿到所有Tiktok数据) 何小满 发表于 2021-06-26 04:03
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/25/tiktok-insiders-say-chinese-parent-bytedance-in-control.html
This recruiter, along with four other former employees, told CNBC they''''''''''''''''re concerned about the popular social media app''''''''''''''''s Chinese parent company, which they say has access to American user data and is actively involved in the Los Angeles company''''''''''''''''s decision-making and product development. These people asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution from the company.
The former employees who spoke to CNBC said the boundaries between TikTok and ByteDance were so blurry as to be almost non-existent.
Most notably, one employee said that ByteDance employees are able to access U.S. user data. This was highlighted in a situation where an American employee working on TikTok needed to get a list of global users, including Americans, who searched for or interacted with a specific type of content — that means users who searched for a specific term or hashtag or liked a particular category of videos. This employee had to reach out to a data team in China in order to access that information. The data the employee received included users'''''''''''''''' specific IDs, and they could pull up whatever information TikTok had about those users. This type of situation was confirmed as a common occurrence by a second employee.
这个指控貌似很严重,拜登政府刚刚放过抖音就爆出这条新闻,看来有人不想放过它。这些MSM以前枪口都是对准川普的,现在没了川普全对准中国了。
底下有人故意搅浑水,是不是赌大多数人不读新闻内容。上面讲的不是什么国内用户能看到美国人视频,而是Tiktok美国员工当时需要美国用户的数据,他们的做法是向中国的数据中心申请,而中国母公司有权限拿到所有Tiktok的数据。Tiktok当初向美国政府保证中国拿不到美国人数据。
(更正一下:原文没说数据存在中国,而是说中国母公司能拿到所有Tiktok数据)
Businessinsider, June 3, 2021
TikTok rolled out major updates to its privacy policy on Wednesday, including adding a new section that allows the ByteDance-owned company to collect US users' biometric information.
"We may collect biometric identifiers and biometric information as defined under US laws, such as faceprints and voiceprints, from your User Content. Where required by law, we will seek any required permissions from you prior to any such collection," the new policy reads.
As noted by TechCrunch, which earlier reported on the changes, that language could allow TikTok the ability to collect most US users' biometric data without explicitly asking them, due to the fact that only a few states have laws restricting companies from collecting such data.
上TikTok视频的用户，都是想看的人越多越好，哪会需要隐私？
这说法就是搅昏水,Tiktok当初可不是这么讲的。它信誓旦旦美国数据存在美国和新加坡,中国拿不到美国人数据,上面的新闻要是真的拜登可以马上封掉Tiktok。
app网上免费下载，国内用个VPN啥都看的到。美国政府现在脑子越来越不好用了。就像一个人在马路上走，叫大家不要看一样。
这都啥跟啥。。。
这地洗的太低级了， 理顺你的逻辑先。
每个人IP地址，别人都能看到吗？
大姐，你随便下个app就能看到一个用户在app里的所有浏览记录吗？所有发言记录吗？私信吗？还有人点赞，无语
呃,你是不是回错层了。。。
哈哈哈哈 真是 回睿大妈那层来着
一看就是tech盲
它就是典型的什么都不懂就敢闭着眼睛洗下去的wm。 理它干啥
你们廊坊没有教过加密的概念吧
某大妈灵关身份已经暴露无疑
这个说法才是搅混水，data team管的是鉴权，哪个data team去亲自审核具体用户数据的？访问用户数据必须要走流程审批，这反而成了罪证？
一看新闻，哦这个former employee是个屁都不懂的recruiter。那就说得过去了。
tktk的透明度中心详细列了各国政府要求获取tktk用户数据的请求清单。美国第一多，印度第二多，中国0。
你智商几多？读个新闻有多难？
这个数据和上传的video可没有关系。是指用户的浏览历史，评论，订阅。有些人注册用的还是自己的真实姓名个人资料。这些都是个人隐私。不懂不要瞎说。
WM攻击爆料人有什么用。如果他/她爆的料是真的,那就说明中国可以拿到美国人数据,这就是违反Tiktok承诺的。
按照第二条新闻,Tiktok拿到的用户数据还包括了biometric data,包括脸部特征和声音特征。想想美国上亿人的面貌和声音特征都在中国政府手里是什么情景。
你连原文都没看就急着胡说八道好吗？
尽量少用社交媒体是好习惯
这个回复才是搅混水。数据储存在中国才是问题所在，和数据请求流程没关系
真难得，也有你不懂的东西
我不信，领馆用这种人有损大国形象啊，是自由职业者吧。。。
你在Facebook里没有biometric data?
不是收集数据本身.而是收集来的数据谁能拿到。现在就是Tiktok说中国政府拿不到,事实上中国母公司可以拿到,同时中国法律规定只要政府要这些数据就必须上交。
评论TikTok都是公开的。订阅也是公开的。
浏览历史知道有啥用？知道用户民有啥用？多少网站现在打入一个人的名字，以前住过哪里，生日，哪里工作，电话号码全都有。能在网上能找到的算啥隐私？
再说一遍，网上到处都能找到东西，特别是用户自己放出来的，不叫隐私。
还有为啥美国人那么喜欢抓着这个不算隐私的“隐私”，互联网都几十年了。这种不痛不痒的“隐私”过去有害到过任何人吗？为啥这种数据会给美国政府洗脑到好像非常害怕到神经病的地步！？
谁跟你说数据存储在中国？人家只是合规审查团队在中国
aws的欧盟用户数据因为gdpr需要存在爱尔兰。但是user data request照样由美国。团队处理
合规审查基本都是一个团队负责审核全球的法律法规相关操作。否则就乱套了。
每次看华人大妈就自己狗屁不通的话题疯狂抬杠，就觉得好笑。
说了半天，你在TikTok上看了什么video的历史是公开资料？
就像你现在在华人网上发言，如果能把你的发言和你现实生活中的ID联系起来，你觉得怎么样？不在乎的话说说自己的真实名字
跟这种无脑子的叼盘侠你是在浪费时间。 它根本什么都不懂。
如果能把我的发言和我的现实生活联系起来，我觉得不好。
但是，我不会觉得哪个国家（对，任何一个国家）政府有这些信息和华人网有这些信息。对我有啥实质差别。
当然，这个回答，只是因为您在讨论个人感觉，所以我就说个人感觉。别人的个人感觉可能不一样，对不？
如果要讨论法律问题，另说。
谁看过TikTok上什么视频重要吗？上面所有视频都是合法的。
我有Facebook，我也有YouTube账号。我不怕我朋友看，也不怕不认识我的人看。我怕的是华人上面深井冰看。华人上太多神经不正常的人了。对于华人上的那些喊自由的那群人我惧怕多过于不认识的人。
你不在乎不等于别人不在乎。何况你也说你怕的是华人上面深井冰看，人家还怕中国政府看，不是很好理解？
举一个美国用户数据给任何其他国家政府利用的例子吧，包括中国政府。几十年了，一例都没有吗？
如果美国人民怕给中国政府看，他们还用TikTok？是美国政府找借口吧。
网上那么多名人的详细信息照片地址爱好和饮食wiki和好多网站都有，这个不叫做隐私。那些名人不想让别人知道的事情，那些真正的隐私，不会放在TikTok上，也不会放在Facebook和YouTube上。其他人也是。你有多幼稚，连这些都分不清？别给洗脑洗的连基本判断能力都丧失了。
国民个资安全当然是国安的头等大事，说老实话，这点中国管得严格多了。你要视而不见胡搅蛮缠我也没办法
美国人不愿意把自己的数据给中国政府看，就这么简单，你乐意你可以把你自己真实姓名信息放网上，没人拦你
这个文章里还真解释了Tiktok (now Bytedance as well)能拿到哪些数据:比如名字,坐标,性别,爱好等等等等。所以比如这些年轻人长大了要进入美国政坛.那么中国政府手里就已经有一套他/她的私人信息。
TikTok's privacy policy explains that the app collects all kinds of data. This includes profile data, such as users' names and profile images, as well as any data users might add through surveys, sweepstakes and contests, such as their gender, age and preferences.
The app also collects users' locations, messages sent within the app and information about how people use the app, including their likes, what content they view and how often they use the app. Notably, the app also collects data on users' interests inferred by the app based on the content that users view.
Most importantly, TikTok also collects data in the form of the content that users generate on the app or upload to it. This would include the videos that users make.
你连一个美国人网上隐私给其他政府利用都举不出来，还说我胡搅蛮缠？
如果我说世界上没有鬼，你非要说有，我让你举一个实例，你说我胡搅蛮缠一个道理。
从美国威胁要关TikTok到现在，美国注册TikTok人数没有减少，反而越来越多了，你和我说美国人不愿意把自己数据给中国政府看？
现在世界上哪个名人，政治家我们不知道名字，性别，住址，平时喜欢做的爱好？
很多网站打入这个人的名字啥都有了。
川普曼哈顿的地址，和喜欢打高尔夫球和玩女人的爱好，大家都不知道吗？
这是awareness问题。美国很多年轻人就是觉得方便好用,压根不知道这背后的各种操作。这个时候主要看美国政府怎么反应了。
就问你一句吧，如果你不愿意暴露你的真实身份，怕华人上面深井冰看，凭什么说美国人民不在乎中国政府知道这些信息？
几十年了，给一个美国人因为网上隐私给中国政府陷害胁迫的例子吧。如果没有，为啥正常美国人要像美国政府一样没有智商呢？
你知道多少习近平的爱好?李克强? 知道习近平1960年6月25日在什么地方?
你不会不知道中国当时怎么通过收集美国外交官的家庭信息来策反他们的吧?
华人网站上因为口角问题人肉后动刀子都有。不是有活生生的例子吗？我不想碰到这种深井冰。
你说美国人网上隐私给中国政府看的，有出过事情吗？给个例子啊？
相比之下，华人网上的深井冰比不认识我的人和全世界政府都危险。
给个例子吧。这个和网上放的视频和看视频有关吗？
你搜一下吧，肯定采访过爱好，一大堆的。知道又怎样呢？TikTok知道哪一天你放了个视频和那天在哪里不能画等号吧。即使知道你拍了个视频放网上，然后呢？没有internet之前，电视拍名人的视频还少吗？有任何问题过吗？
真是鸡同鸭讲。说了半天，还是在说上传视频。 认为一个social media收集你的个资只是你上传的video，实在无知
别说别人无知，然后自己说各种危险，可具体实际例子啥都说不出来。
也是啊
你可以去查Candace Clairbone,北京通过替她儿子付学费策反她的。之前有篇很长的文章讲了很多细节,包括谁跟她联系,给了什么好处,最后美国怎么抓她。
哦,你的意思是说中国的公司本来就能随便拿到美国成千上万人的个人资料,压根就不是新闻。
你的问题在这篇文章里有解释,这是链接 https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/06/25/tiktok-insiders-say-chinese-parent-bytedance-in-control.html
我来说说这个“新闻”的槽点吧： 几个人在美国指控一家中国公司（尤其在美国现在的政治氛围下）说怕报复而匿名，这种事一匿名可信度就大打折扣；别人在美国指控美国公司都不匿名 爆料的领头人是个recruiter啊？ 你去问问Facebook, Google之类的科技公司的recruiter，他们搞得清究竟搜集了什么数据，数据怎么存，存在哪儿吗？你要说爆料人是某个研发部门的技术人员还可信度稍微高一点 app收集各种个人数据实在也不是什么新闻，每个公司都在这么干，包括那几个一直自己标榜白莲花的公司 美国的棱镜计划停止了吗？没有吧，所以我看到美国的媒体指责谁谁偷数据，危害国家安全，我全当放P
像我们这种小老百姓当然不知道中国情报部门如何运用这些数据，你觉得他们会发报道让大家知道？你以为我是中情局工作的？但这个很难理解吗？中国公司利用这些数据的报道例子比比皆是。其实美国公司也是这么搞得。私人公司得到数据自然用作商业用途，外国政府拿到了数据自然搞情报用途。现在大数据分析如此厉害，这些social media 的数据就是情报单位的宝藏。
你跟上面的口径够一致。。。你所有这些在这篇文章里都有更详细的解释,我链接都贴了,不车轱辘转述了。只一点,Bytedance貌似没你们那么理直气壮说收集美国人数据怎么了,当初拼命向美国保证中国政府拿不到这些数据的。
感觉挺标准的privacy statement。TikTok本来就是美国公司吧。问题是美国用户的数据是不是留在美国，还是也会转回中国的母公司。
啧啧不容易啊 领工资周末也上班
解释啥？说的是以前发生过的网上隐私给中国政府利用而威胁到美国人的案例。不是臆想以后要发生的。
这个小孩读书和隐私有啥关系？
如此无聊的回复
你说这些没用，先把我说的前两点所缺失的东西补足了后面的才成立
不过什么recruiter来爆料数据收集存储这种糊弄你这样的应该是足够了
人家正当手段拿到数据，想干啥关别人何事？
如果非正当手段拿到数据，不管想干啥，都有问题。
所以了，担心不担心自己的数据被滥用？有， 正常人都会有一定程度的担心。但针对具体的公司（比如，华人网，tiktok）的担心，与针对任何一国政府的担心，没啥实质差别。
更应该在乎的，是万一这些东西被人非法偷走了会有什么影响。
反正我是不担心美国政府或者中国政府，通过法律手段从与我有关的这些social网站要走包含我信息的数据。
白登左左信TikTok是有蠢有坏，华人真不知道是咋回事吗？就像楼上说的，反过来倒真是新闻了。
五毛慌乱的语无伦次
哈哈哈，Reddit也是中国公司腾讯投资的
鲁迅
五毛的惯用伎俩就是偷换概念，胡搅蛮缠，和骂大街
你不想想为啥中国是0么……………………
对于五毛们的帖子，要不鄙视一下这些五毛，要不当猴戏看就是了。五毛最喜欢的就是你跟他们辩论，你一认真就上当了。
数据公司利用数据自然没错。你用Facebook， Amazon，这些公司自然有你的数据。你开账号的时候，自然有相关的service agreement。这些数据信息量庞大，商机多多。但这里讨论的是美国用户数据被中国掌握，不同层面的问题。
现在慢慢清楚了，Biden对付中国的手段政策和方法都是跟Trump一回事。什么香港，维族还有实验室起源论开始重新炒Trump政府的冷饭。 以前为了给Trump下绊子还假装反对一下，现在参院众院媒体在手，搞起中国来各部门齐抓共管，而且共和党和欧洲都支持。