单纯说英文需要提高哈,adolescents指的是teen, 你引的文章中的children 指的是under 10, 目前也没有疫苗給儿童批准。 Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines. Adolescence, transitional phase of growth and development between childhood and adulthood. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines an adolescent as any person between ages 10 and 19.
francesjj 发表于 2021-06-22 10:25
大家自己看上下文吧 WHO SHOULD GET VACCINATEDThe COVID-19 vaccines are safe for most people 18 years and older, including those with pre-existing conditions of any kind, including auto-immune disorders. These conditions include: hypertension, diabetes, asthma, pulmonary, liver and kidney disease, as well as chronic infections that are stable and controlled. If supplies are limited in your area, discuss your situation with your care provider if you: Have a compromised immune system Are pregnant (if you are already breastfeeding, you should continue after vaccination) Have a history of severe allergies, particularly to a vaccine (or any of the ingredients in the vaccine) Are severely frail Children should not be vaccinated for the moment. There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.
大家自己看上下文吧 WHO SHOULD GET VACCINATEDThe COVID-19 vaccines are safe for most people 18 years and older, including those with pre-existing conditions of any kind, including auto-immune disorders. These conditions include: hypertension, diabetes, asthma, pulmonary, liver and kidney disease, as well as chronic infections that are stable and controlled. If supplies are limited in your area, discuss your situation with your care provider if you: Have a compromised immune system Are pregnant (if you are already breastfeeding, you should continue after vaccination) Have a history of severe allergies, particularly to a vaccine (or any of the ingredients in the vaccine) Are severely frail Children should not be vaccinated for the moment. There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines. mary的小绵羊 发表于 2021-06-22 10:36
回复 225楼francesjj的帖子 The COVID-19 vaccines are safe for most people 18 years and older.虽然这里who没明确给出针对adolescents的建议。个人认为可以理解为18岁以下还没有足够数据证明是安全的。 普罗旺斯的淡紫 发表于 2021-06-22 10:41
大家自己看上下文吧 WHO SHOULD GET VACCINATEDThe COVID-19 vaccines are safe for most people 18 years and older, including those with pre-existing conditions of any kind, including auto-immune disorders. These conditions include: hypertension, diabetes, asthma, pulmonary, liver and kidney disease, as well as chronic infections that are stable and controlled. If supplies are limited in your area, discuss your situation with your care provider if you: Have a compromised immune system Are pregnant (if you are already breastfeeding, you should continue after vaccination) Have a history of severe allergies, particularly to a vaccine (or any of the ingredients in the vaccine) Are severely frail Children should not be vaccinated for the moment. There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines. mary的小绵羊 发表于 2021-06-22 10:36
原主为了不让孩子的死被“极右”媒体利用,已经删了原推了。真是可悲。 I have deleted a tweet thread about the sudden death of my nephew following his 2nd covid shot. Fox News and other far-right disinformation networks are politicizing the death and using my tweet to do it. They are causing my family more pain. If you have any questions, DM me.
原主为了不让孩子的死被“极右”媒体利用,已经删了原推了。真是可悲。 I have deleted a tweet thread about the sudden death of my nephew following his 2nd covid shot. Fox News and other far-right disinformation networks are politicizing the death and using my tweet to do it. They are causing my family more pain. If you have any questions, DM me.
没看到同一网页上还有这句吗? WHO's Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) has concluded that the Pfizer/BionTech vaccine is suitable for use by people aged 12 years and above. Children aged between 12 and 15 who are at high risk may be offered this vaccine alongside other priority groups for vaccination. Vaccine trials for children are ongoing and WHO will update its recommendations when the evidence or epidemiological situation warrants a change in policy.
可是打戴口罩的人的国家不太多。修辞手法在消毒剂是sarcastic之后不太好用了。
多谢链接,说是priority review, on a rolling basis,这样估计16岁以上的年底就能批了。小孩的咋不申请呢?
我会觉得是的...但是我又觉得每个打疫苗的孩子,家长估计都是打过的.......
那所以我们到底要就事论事还是不要呢? 就事论事不要看数据,事件背景吗?
比如你的句子囊括整个国家,那么你认为从缅因到夏威夷到处都有戴口罩的人被打? 今天不论你去哪里都被打?
你这样扯东扯西规避掉之前讨论的问题,顾左右而言他,替别人增加假设,刻意混淆逻辑并没有帮助。
以下是一开始讨论的问题。我无意顾左右而言他她。那位层主希望政府*现在*出面,强制
"比如戴口罩或逼迫疫苗公司开发出更好的疫苗或剂量" ,取代现有的鼓励大家打疫苗政策
我的回答: 美国有意思的地方在于没人不让你戴口罩,你戴三层再穿个防毒防护衣都没问题。但你无法强迫他人戴口罩。老美论坛也经常因为这点吵吵吵(不是吵能不能强制,而是吵凭什么道德审判不戴口罩的人)
政府(美国)不会强制口罩的,同样也不会强制疫苗,但他们会大力鼓励疫苗,因为出于一些原因,美国(政府)觉得疫苗是更有效的手段。同样如果那位层主想要推动口罩,就必须想办法劝美国人戴口罩比疫苗管用。但这是个人行为,你说的疫情初期有些戴口罩的人被打,也是个人行为
去年我经历了 歪哥报道武汉实况 我告知小孩 小孩老师说 武汉离我们很远不要瞎紧张 然后立马我们被学校其他小孩传到 自动隔离两周 回去学校 学校又立马在家长集体抗议下关闭
有时候没有坏人 除了媒体的乱宣传 但是乱象是令人无力的
我们不在same page,你开心就好。
是的,乱象揭开了人们真正的想法和社会太多的问题。
啊?学校真的要你们隔离了两周么?
哦,才看到,你们被学校别的小孩传染了隔离2周。
你们学校关的很晚么?我们去年3月就关学校了。至今还未去上过学。
Sure, 我们确实不是在讲同种现象
应该是携带心肌炎基因的,疫苗trigger了开关
的确很多乱象,学校里有小留家长骂我们杞人忧天,怕死应该更关注流感才对,说话相当不客气。反而学校比较谨慎。呵呵
What''''s the point of generalization
其实民间的反应ok的
比如我记得去年最早huaren上有人post怎么找西雅图的一个测试机构测新冠
我们local的鸡娃群至今天天有post县里的新增数据 感觉对疫情的态度很中性 但不失温暖
老师们也仅在疫情最初受了媒体误导过于轻视了 发现被误导后也更正了各项措施 学校和老师们后期表现很不错的
我心里存有疑惑的是 cdc与媒体的失职也是有目共睹的 不管他们是intentional incompetence也好accidental screw-up也罢 为什么会有人觉得他们在新冠这件事上还有credibility呢?特别是烧钱严重的官僚机构
但事已如此 除了自己和小孩乖乖戴口罩 故意忽略不主张戴口罩的人的部分目光以外 还能怎样呢?
美国不相信cdc 还能相信谁呢? Who吗?或是每个人学习读科研文献?
你们那儿既然有家长群,也许可以在群里互相分享信息,或者push 学校改变一些政策。我觉得老师现在也很害怕的。
前段时间看到研究,如果室内学生老师都戴口罩,避免大叫大吼唱歌,可以将safe time 延长到8小时。不戴口罩但是室内通风很好,就是7小时的safe time. 两种并用,好像能达到80多小时。另外,比起疫情初期,家长或多或少都打过疫苗,希望他们至少比较谨慎,也许reopening 没有那么危险
这个我就不懂了 提一个机构不好 一定需要拿一个更坏的出来参照 进而验证其实坏的那个还不够坏吗?
为了疫苗接种率而放弃口罩 真的挺脑残的 不知道最后谁会成为这种脑残决定的代价
只是想告诉你,美国人除了听cdc没有太多选择,民科甚至不如cdc, 政府好像也没要做大改革,反而在乎的是control the messaging (昨天politico 一篇文章)。cdc 按理说就是流行病上的authority, 而且算career civil servants 吧,估计工作很稳, 反正之前他们搞砸了testing kit 也没什么后果真让人开眼。当然他们这是在消耗自己的公信力
现在就是怕秋季一上学,打过疫苗的不用戴口罩了,不打疫苗是不是得遭殃
让不让孩子打疫苗真的成了纠结 还没有12岁,衣服已经穿14岁的 期待批疫苗,又害怕要做决定......
就是有一部分人不打算打 但却需要到处浪
他们不交税 可以制造各种数据 而且还可以卖疫苗发财。
疫情刚开始的时候,年轻人到处浪,牺牲老年人。 疫苗出来后,老年人逼迫年轻人打疫苗。这些年轻人就算得了新冠死亡率也很低,凭什么逼人家承担风险?
对,我鄙视那些出去浪的年轻人。但是我自己两个乖乖娃,一直在家老实待着的,他们招谁惹谁了?
人性真是自私自利到了极点!
美国政府除了花钱,还能做啥? 他们的工作就是怎样把纳税人的钱花掉。
除了鼓动大家打疫苗,啥都不做。任由你自生自灭。现在也没有任何反省,为啥以前死了那么多人,有什么教训或者改进的地方?没有,zero!
现在我们这里已经由最高峰2000到20多,那为啥不能追踪切断传染源?这样的open才是安全的open。
居然有的id还担心这样太花钱啥的。还替政府说话。我真想骂人。只要在政府部门呆过,你就知道有的部门就算裁掉一半的人,工作量他们一天都不会超过半个小时。而且还全是做些无用功。
CDC自己里面还有人都没有打疫苗呢,听证会都不敢说,你信他?
美国人一样,被洗脑也洗很久了。"也许没有那么危险。。"哈哈,真是搞笑,孩子的安全都要寄希望于"也许"
没爬楼,就想echo下这个。 政府部门到年底,都要想方设法的把年度预算统统花光,越浪费越好,这样下一年申请预算的时候才能报个更大的数额上去而不被砍,呵呵。 那些支持高税率,说什么愿意多交税帮助穷人的,呵呵,你多交的钱只不过是养了个更庞大的官僚利益集团吸血而已。不相信,去看看你们学区的经费都是怎么花的。 真有那心思还不如把钱直接给到需要帮助的人手里,花到你认为有意义的社会项目上。
世界健康组织已经明确建议小孩不要打疫苗。这些无知的父母偏偏要打。是他们害死了孩子。
理解错了。他们确实管18岁以下的人都叫children
你站着说话不腰疼啊,美国政府能有土共那样的管控能力? 你要是得了,把你家门焊丝你愿意吗?不焊丝的话,你24小时跟踪?
大家自己看上下文吧 WHO SHOULD GET VACCINATED The COVID-19 vaccines are safe for most people 18 years and older, including those with pre-existing conditions of any kind, including auto-immune disorders. These conditions include: hypertension, diabetes, asthma, pulmonary, liver and kidney disease, as well as chronic infections that are stable and controlled. If supplies are limited in your area, discuss your situation with your care provider if you: Have a compromised immune system Are pregnant (if you are already breastfeeding, you should continue after vaccination) Have a history of severe allergies, particularly to a vaccine (or any of the ingredients in the vaccine) Are severely frail Children should not be vaccinated for the moment. There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.
他们确实管18岁以下的都叫children
The COVID-19 vaccines are safe for most people 18 years and older.虽然这里who没明确给出针对adolescents的建议。个人认为可以理解为18岁以下还没有足够数据证明是安全的。
没建议打就是不要打,至少跟美国这边各种威逼利诱的手段让青少年打是两种截然不同的态度
我也刚查了一下,他们确实管18岁以下的都叫children, 我错了。
你个政屁轮子, 祝你的新冠住院就去等死区,死了也没有人收尸。等不到纽约荒岛的万人坑埋,尸体就在冷冻车上发臭一年!
美国还有“威逼”这一说?“利诱”有可能。
国内开始给三岁以上的孩子注射疫苗了,所以喜欢国内的方式的可以开心了。 https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202106/1225639.shtml
我的天,给小孩打剂量居然没变化,这是什么逻辑?
怎么就没有威逼?美帝这两年疯魔了,各种魔幻有目共睹,对一个实验性的疫苗,一堆私校放话“不打不许去学校”,政府装得一脸无辜地默许纵容这种操作,这不是威逼是什么?
当然威逼程度和墙锅没得比,毕竟一个早就穷凶极恶地赤膊上阵,另一个还得遮遮掩掩地犹抱琵琶,但是和最烂的比烂有意义吗?
去年疫情很糟糕的时候,我还专门去州政府网页看是否需要contact tracer, 可不可以volunteer, 网页上明确写着谢谢我们人手够。据说人手够,但追踪隔离一直七零八落。呵
我们区很多让人无语的地方。不过自从去年开始,我也逐渐看到一些非常politically active 的家长公民如何运作的。虽说远水救不了近火,但华人多学学吧,搞清楚你们district 的senator,reprentative,去影响别人去petition/lobby. 老中独善其身那一套有时候不足以自保,别人都不戴口罩就中国人自己戴口罩是挡不了新冠就是个例子
先不提安全,Who 一向不推荐child covid vaccine, 他们是希望先把疫苗给非洲等贫穷国家的高危人群。这种高度的机构做决策已经不全为了个体的科学而是看全局(也可以理解为政治)
关于能不能强制疫苗,现在好像有lawsuits. 我猜私人机构比较能站得住脚,不过大部分企业还是选择不趟这浑水的
危害到公共安全的时候就需要一些强制手段
比如飞机出故障 有个王八蛋坐在飞机紧急出口挡了别人的路 王八蛋说就是不挪屁股谁也管不着 这时候该强制
支持你去把这些王八蛋都抓起来强制一下
对呀,比如你们这些道德绑架别人打实验性疫苗的玩意,就是典型地危害到公共安全了,说吧,你想被怎么强制?
哎,有些打了疫苗的不是后悔就是已经疯了。但是已经打了,能怎么办? 已知的副作用,加上还有未知的副作用,他们还不死命绑着别人打。因为他们已经下不来船了。
除非比较特殊职业,比如医务工作者,或者必须大量接触人群,确实应该打疫苗。但是普通工作环境,本来自己顾好自己,没有啥机会得新冠,非被CDC之流的忽悠,去打一个自己不会得的病的,长短期副作用都不明确的疫苗。那只能是自己活该。
Fox News and other far-right disinformation networks are politicizing the death and using my tweet to do it. They are causing my family more pain.
If you have any questions, DM me.
Wow
惨剧 sigh
政客采用的手段就是利诱。
这些打了疫苗的呢就跑到公共论坛里道德绑架恫吓诅咒没打疫苗的,自己对疫苗的各种副作用不听不看当鸵鸟,更极端的是一听疫苗副作用就怒火中烧被踩了尾巴一样更不许别人提,反正对他们来说听不见看不到别人不说副作用就没有,然后诅咒不打这个还没ready的疫苗就一定得新冠。
越看越可笑,我的身体我自己做主,没脑的才会被这些左右。
也不一定,有些听到疫苗副作用就跳脚的,很可能是没打疫苗但信“群免”的,就怕其他人听多了副作用,和自己一样决定不打了,所谓的群免破产了,呵呵呵,你看,跳得最厉害的疫苗红卫兵,搞不定就是这种人。
wow
这个太搞了
希望他们不会心想事成 太狠了
CDC不是有人,是不少人都没打疫苗。
被你这么一说,不打疫苗的真是太聪明了。被怂恿去打的就是蠢蛋啊
没看到同一网页上还有这句吗? WHO's Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE) has concluded that the Pfizer/BionTech vaccine is suitable for use by people aged 12 years and above. Children aged between 12 and 15 who are at high risk may be offered this vaccine alongside other priority groups for vaccination. Vaccine trials for children are ongoing and WHO will update its recommendations when the evidence or epidemiological situation warrants a change in policy.
你这么说不是搞笑吗?难道去年感染的一千多万人里都是医护工作者和接触人多的人群吗?按你的理论做好个人防护就不得了哪儿来这么多感染的?打了也不是百分之百不得病还可能传染别人。
你就是打了疫苗下不了船的?看来脑子是打坏了。好好享受你的副作用去吧。别在这里扯淡
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