为什么中国人没有制定行之有效的法律法规和政策的能力?

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中国是人治社会。 当然人治并不是就比法制差。 关键看官员怎么执行,上层怎么管
worldineyes 发表于 2021-06-20 00:33

人性有太多阴暗面,人治适合一个小家庭,因为彼此有比较强的纽带。对于一个国家,这个我们就不用争了,人治没有法治好。
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台湾比大陆其实还差。 不要以为自己说民主法制就是真法制了。 大陆官员至少还有政绩考核考核的压力,集权上级的压力。 台湾官员除了骗选票,什么压力都没有,什么事情也不干。 大陆的制度确实弊端不少,但是效果依然远胜台湾
worldineyes 发表于 2021-06-20 00:36

台湾官员至少还需要承诺一些东西哄普通民众骗选票,大陆官员直接无视普通民众的诉求,甚至解决提出问题的人。两相对比,哪个体制对普通民众有利一目了然。
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有没有法,依不依法。是两个问题。天朝人不律己,或者说没有圣徒。
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任何东西做比较都需要和自身发展水平类似的国家比。。。
谈法制问题,麻烦楼主随便拿几个人均GDP在8000-10000美元的国家出来比较一下。。。。

Namama 发表于 2021-06-20 00:39

哪里都少不了你这个五毛狗搅屎棍,go get a life!
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有没有法,依不依法。是两个问题。天朝人不律己,或者说没有圣徒。
shi557 发表于 2021-06-20 06:56

法治就是既有法律法规还要保证人人遵守,没有人凌驾于法律之上,不遵守的都要受惩罚。所以才有三权分立,互相制衡。三权分立比皇权/独裁更先进更符合人性是毋庸置疑的。
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楼主傻逼不明白的是 那是你父母有关系给你办成了 美国人有关系也这么办 而你没有关系在美国想出三千美元也办不成。 你试试你不在场,用你的同学到mvd替你办身份证去?
几页回帖都傻逼啊。看不出问题吗?
事情最后都会落实到人怎么办。跟法规关系不大。真是白活了。
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楼主傻逼不明白的是 那是你父母有关系给你办成了 美国人有关系也这么办 而你没有关系在美国想出三千美元也办不成。 你试试你不在场,用你的同学到mvd替你办身份证去?
几页回帖都傻逼啊。看不出问题吗?
事情最后都会落实到人怎么办。跟法规关系不大。真是白活了。
hualihu 发表于 2021-06-20 09:12

你的point是什么?出生公证和身份证是一回事吗?你知道在美国办公证是多么容易的一件事吗?傻逼没见识啥啥分不清的人是你。
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哪里都少不了你这个五毛狗搅屎棍,go get a life!
Shudongtucao 发表于 2021-06-20 07:02

你这种屁都不懂的无知小白,也只配被轮子功洗脑 Go get some brain
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I think there are currently too many many laws, already.
Perhaps everyone should be (re)educated and (re)trained to understand and follow Natural Laws. KISS!
It seems all animals living in maintains can live well peacefully, without any written rules. Basically No wars!


Q Natural law opposes the idea that moral law is relative, subjective, and changeable. Natural law provides a criterion by which positive laws can be judged. If the law of the state runs counter to natural law, it is held to be unjust. Positive law and normative justice are not synonymous. If justice is pertinent then natural law is pertinent. 自然法反对道德法是相对的、主观的和可变的。自然法提供了判断实在法的标准。如果国家的法律与自然法相违背,则它被认为是不公正的。实证法和规范正义不是同义词。如果正义是相关的,那么自然法是相关的。
Natural law derives from the nature of man and the world. It is discoverable through the use of reason in accord with nature, eternal and unchangeable, and applicable to all persons. Natural law theory supports universally shared moral principles and norms that raise man above relativism and subjectivism.  自然法源于人和世界的本性。它是通过理性的运用而发现的,符合自然,永恒不变,适用于所有人。自然法理论支持普遍共享的道德原则和规范,使人超越相对主义和主观主义。
 Since natural law can be derived from what is inherent in human nature, it would be valid even if God did not exist. Thomas Aquinas has explained that there exists a system of moral beliefs accessible to human reason and independent of divine revelation. Man has a particular nature involving specific natural needs and the ability to use reason to recognize what is good for man in accordance with those needs.  既然自然法可以从人性固有的东西中推导出来,那么即使上帝不存在,它也是有效的。托马斯·阿奎那 (Thomas Aquinas) 解释说,存在一种人类理性可以理解且独立于神圣启示的道德信仰体系。人具有特殊的本性,涉及特定的自然需求,并且能够根据这些需求使用理性来识别对人类有益的东西。
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Too Many Laws, Too Much Regulation | Cato Institute https://www.cato.org › commentary › too-many-laws-to...
Too Many Laws, Too Much Regulation. Legislators at all levels of government try to make everything their business. March 2, 2016 • Commentary. By Michael D.

Opinion | Why the rule of law suffers when we have too many ... https://www.washingtonpost.com › news › 2017/10/01
2 Oct 2017 — By criminalizing and regulating as much as we do, we imperil the rule of ... Opinion: Why the rule of law suffers when we have too many laws.
Too many laws, too many prisoners | The Economist https://www.economist.com › ... › Jul 24th 2010 edition
22 July 2010 — First, it puts too many people away for too long. ... New laws have removed from judges much of their discretion to set a sentence that takes full ... crimes, and many times that number of regulations that carry criminal penalties.
Our nation has too many laws - Times Gazette https://www.timesgazette.com › opinion › our-nation-h...
25 Oct 2018 — One of the more absurd ways to become a criminal in the United States is to violate a civil regulation of another nation. The Lacey Act is a federal ...
How Too Much Regulation Hurts America's Poor - Forbes https://www.forbes.com › adammillsap › 2019/07/23
23 July 2019 — Regulations that focus on basic worker or consumer safety often have benefits that outweigh their costs. But many regulations on the books today ...
DO MORE REGULATIONS EQUAL LESS SAFETY? https://www.mercatus.org › system › files › More-...
There are over 165,000 pages of federal regulations, almost. 20,000 of which ... They find that too many, and too detailed, regulations can reduce compliance ...
America has too many criminal laws | TheHill https://thehill.com › opinion › criminal-justice › 47365...
9 Dec 2019 — Criminal laws and regulations threaten prison sentences for offenses ranging from trafficking in snakehead fish to selling mattresses without ...
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Business - Insider Trump Stood Next to a Huge Pile of Paper to Showcase Excess Regulation

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Business - Insider Trump Stood Next to a Huge Pile of Paper to Showcase Excess Regulation


EvenOdd 发表于 2021-06-20 16:57

President Trump described his administration’s deregulation efforts in remarks at the White House on Thursday. He then stood between two piles of paper representing government regulations in 1960, (20,000 pages, he said), and today — a pile that was about six feet tall (said to be 185,000 pages).Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
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你这种屁都不懂的无知小白,也只配被轮子功洗脑 Go get some brain
Namama 发表于 2021-06-20 12:32

五毛狗看不起轮子功,这事新鲜 lol
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Shudongtucao
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五毛狗真是可怜又可恨,一个讨论贴你们也要炸。至于怕成这样吗?
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五毛狗真是可怜又可恨,一个讨论贴你们也要炸。至于怕成这样吗?
Shudongtucao 发表于 2021-06-20 18:12

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U.S. Trails 17 Other Countries in Rule of Law Ranking But a nonprofit survey finds most believe the U.S. elections are the opposite of rigged. By Devon Haynie Assistant Managing Editor, Cities Oct. 20, 2016, at 5:10 p.m.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-10-20/us-is-no-18-in-global-rule-of-law-ranking The country had two key weaknesses, Ponce says. The first was the affordability of civil justice. “It is expensive compared to other countries, particularly for poor people,” he says. The second was “equal treatment and absence of discrimination" – a finding that may seem unsurprising to some following more than two years of protest over police shootings of African-Americans.
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U.S. Trails 17 Other Countries in Rule of Law Ranking But a nonprofit survey finds most believe the U.S. elections are the opposite of rigged. By Devon Haynie Assistant Managing Editor, Cities Oct. 20, 2016, at 5:10 p.m.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-10-20/us-is-no-18-in-global-rule-of-law-ranking The country had two key weaknesses, Ponce says. The first was the affordability of civil justice. “It is expensive compared to other countries, particularly for poor people,” he says. The second was “equal treatment and absence of discrimination" – a finding that may seem unsurprising to some following more than two years of protest over police shootings of African-Americans.
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EvenOdd 发表于 2021-06-20 19:24

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1979 年 3 月 29 日,邓小平在北京会见时任香港总督麦理浩。香港大部分土地的租约将于 1997 年到期,麦理浩谈到,有必要让港人放心,因为他们对 1997 年之后的前景深感担忧。
会谈结束后他们起身向外走时,邓小平向麦理浩做了个手势,身高超过 1 米 8 的香港总督俯下身,听到这位身高只有一米五几的中国领导人对他说: “如果觉得管理香港不容易,管理中国试试? ”
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China's Rule of Law Development: The Increasing Emphasis ... https://www.nyujilp.org › chinas-rule-of-law-developm...
16 Feb 2021 — President Xi expressly stated that China needs to “place emphasis on ... Internationalization of Legal Standards for the Development of the Horizontal Rule of Law ... Additionally, China has improved its intellectual property law—a priority ... from higher courts because their performance is reviewed annually, ...


The Rise of Big Law in China - The Practice https://thepractice.law.harvard.edu › article › rise-big-la...
In 2002, when I first began to study the Chinese legal profession, no law firm had more ... The consideration of seniority and performance enabled King & Wood to ... many were required to “take a bath” by working in the Beijing headquarters or ... for lawyers' professional identity and status because it changes the nature of ...

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U.S. Trails 17 Other Countries in Rule of Law Ranking But a nonprofit survey finds most believe the U.S. elections are the opposite of rigged. By Devon Haynie Assistant Managing Editor, Cities Oct. 20, 2016, at 5:10 p.m.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-10-20/us-is-no-18-in-global-rule-of-law-ranking The country had two key weaknesses, Ponce says. The first was the affordability of civil justice. “It is expensive compared to other countries, particularly for poor people,” he says. The second was “equal treatment and absence of discrimination" – a finding that may seem unsurprising to some following more than two years of protest over police shootings of African-Americans.
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EvenOdd 发表于 2021-06-20 19:24


" I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed. We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal. ... I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by their character.
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Martin Luther King JR
On August 28, 1963, some 100 years after President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves, a young man named Martin Luther King climbed the marble steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. to describe his vision of America. More than 200,000 people-black and white-came to listen. They came by plane, by car, by bus, by train, and by foot. They came to Washington to demand equal rights for black people. And the dream that they heard on the steps of the Monument became the dream of a generation.

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