I think, even a whole country park completely converting to residential use should be justifiable. Just finding another new one as substitute/replacement to be located farther than the old one should be fairly easy, however people would need to travel longer during weekend for the new park.
+100. Perhaps the China Central can officially establish a Land Reformation (HK) Authority that reports to the China Central directlky, while having the authority to coordinate and implement their land reformation solutions through the contemporrary HK Government hierarchy. There should be a complete list of all possibilities of land uses in order to resolve the issue and problems, disregarding any major and minor public objections. The (re)positioning of HK nowadays should be all Hongkongers would want to live happily in a better and livable HK, instead of only for wealthy people individually.
1. Perhaps selecting a few whole country parks by converting them completely into residential use. That should be justifiable, and the income of selling these park lands should be used for land reclamation of carefully selected islands after consideration of envirionmental issues. New country parks should be found and developed as substitute/ replacement parks to be located farther than the old ones, however people would need to travel longer during weekend for the new parks. Perhaps free ferries to be operated should be provided during weekends for initially 5 years fir people to go to the new parks.
2. Redevelopment of a few old zones of low desity by relocating current residents to some nearby new buildings of high density that are catered for this prupose. Perhaps some old HK places do need new facelift anyway.
3. Perhaps all exisiting vacant industrial-use lands should be tactically moved to the Mainland after negotiating a comprehansive rental deal for new industrial-use lands. High rise residential buildings then can be built. Businesses should pay for keeping their gears in HK industrial buildings that are specially built for them.
Perhaps, the reality is a China's HK nowadays is no longer the old (British) colonial HK anymore. Making the administration of HK Governor much more difficult to manage well. However, the housing problem in HK must be solved! <廖啟智（智叔）: 『劏房是香港人的恥辱！』> It seems people would be quite concerned about this problem! Likely a source of recent disobedience by HK youths.
Perhaps a short or medium term objective would be to make HK housing of small size becoming affordable to at least a major part, if not most or all, of HK youths. Let majority of the HK youths work for their realistic wishes!
<想去香港的人很多，现在主要是房价拦着. 放出更多土地，房价会降.> Currently, just like having 2 HKs co-existed concurrently in HK. It seems new wealthy HKers from Mainland can easily afford high priced houses, while old average HKers cannot, due to lack of suitable jobs or viable industries in HK, where the only resource is land (to sell at highest possible price by auction) . A Laissez-faire economics and leadership for a new HK city nowadays may not be suitable or viable anymore, in long run. Looks like the leaders in HK Government must be extremely strategic and talented in order to direct HK to a better future.
这些年来香港政府一直想卖地，一直被泛民反对。。
呵呵呵 泛民反对有用？ 泛民还反对国安法呢
自己去查查过去10多年香港立法院记录就知道他们的反对有用没用了。。。
现在泛民靠边站，未来2年内估计会有大规模土地入市。。
香港目前大约4-5成的面积是郊野公园。。 哪怕保持95%的公园面积不动，只拿出5%的郊野公园搞开发，这就差不多是香港2.5%的土地，和现存7%的住宅用地比，就已经是1/3以上的土地增量了。。绝对够了。。。
其实都是很简单的数学。。 而泛民为了反对而反对，死活不愿搞开发。。 狗屁环保，无非就是在那里绑架民意而已，因为他们认为香港搞的越烂，房价越高，民怨越大，对他们越有利。。。
https://www.hk01.com/issue/10102/香港再規劃-人人都講新界北-具體規劃點至得
2021-06-13
这样hk楼价不是会跌？可是中国不想它跌的吧？不然为何现在中资入市撑楼价？
I think, even a whole country park completely converting to residential use should be justifiable.
Just finding another new one as substitute/replacement to be located farther than the old one should be fairly easy, however people would need to travel longer during weekend for the new park.
不开发，房地产房价高
是的。连亲共的小粉红都反对。无语。 不过有些也回过味儿来，当年董建华一片好心，喂了驴肝肺。
+1
我以前总听人说香港小，寸土寸金。后来我去地图上一看，mlgb也不小啊，比人家新加坡一个正经国家还大的多。不过住宅用地确实少，大片大片的绿地没有使用。
+100.
Perhaps the China Central can officially establish a Land Reformation (HK) Authority that reports to the China Central directlky, while having the authority to coordinate and implement their land reformation solutions through the contemporrary HK Government hierarchy.
There should be a complete list of all possibilities of land uses in order to resolve the issue and problems, disregarding any major and minor public objections.
The (re)positioning of HK nowadays should be all Hongkongers would want to live happily in a better and livable HK, instead of only for wealthy people individually.
That should be justifiable, and the income of selling these park lands should be used for land reclamation of carefully selected islands after consideration of envirionmental issues.
New country parks should be found and developed as substitute/ replacement parks to be located farther than the old ones, however people would need to travel longer during weekend for the new parks.
Perhaps free ferries to be operated should be provided during weekends for initially 5 years fir people to go to the new parks.
Perhaps some old HK places do need new facelift anyway.
High rise residential buildings then can be built.
Businesses should pay for keeping their gears in HK industrial buildings that are specially built for them.
了解了
需求大的话，未必会房价跌
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2629517&postid=87542556#87542556
不懂就不要乱说好不好。有地就能建房子了？戈壁滩上为啥没房子？ 香港郊野公园的土质很多不是太硬的岩石就是太软的红树林软泥。开发成本大，而且离市区远。交通配套跟不上的话普通市民根本不会去住的。
香港政府一直有卖地好不好。
Q 本星期一（6月7日），前土地供應專責小組主席黃遠輝出席環境諮詢委員會後接受傳媒訪問，指出2018年該小組「土地大辯論」的報告顯示主流民意並未支持郊野公園邊陲建屋，因此相關方案優先次序排在較後位置。剛好在同一天，經民聯又發佈了《香港十年建屋計劃》建議書，提倡先在元朗大欖及沙田水泉澳兩個試點開發郊野公園邊陲提供40多公頃的土地建屋，長遠再把郊野公園總面積的3%即約1,329公頃土地改劃成住宅用地。
https://www.hk01.com/ 01觀點/635463/土地大辯論翻炒再炒-議而不行無法解決問題
土地入市，香港房价也不会降的，只不过房源变多了而已。买不起的依然买不起。
Perhaps, the reality is a China's HK nowadays is no longer the old (British) colonial HK anymore.
Making the administration of HK Governor much more difficult to manage well.
However, the housing problem in HK must be solved!
<廖啟智（智叔）: 『劏房是香港人的恥辱！』>
It seems people would be quite concerned about this problem! Likely a source of recent disobedience by HK youths.
Perhaps a short or medium term objective would be to make HK housing of small size becoming affordable to at least a major part, if not most or all, of HK youths.
Let majority of the HK youths work for their realistic wishes!
1）房价最终还是供给决定的。。。
2）即使依然买不起的，也起码有政府公屋可以住，而且是条件不错的公屋，不是现在这种贫民窟。。。
香港的住房体制很恐怖
太过于自由资本主义
过于自由资本主义体制，过于私有化的地方， 住房条件都很恶劣
另外城市规划极其混乱
香港就是资本主义最糟糕的模板。。
李嘉诚更是其中的典型。。 香港人承受那么高的房价，财富大规模聚集到少数几个家族手里，但李嘉诚转手就抽离资金跑路，甚至从所得税到遗产税，啥都收不到。。 那香港人付那么昂贵的房贷到底是为了啥？
古典经济学模型，都是假设在一个封闭经济体内的运作。。 都是假设在一个封闭经济体内，通过市场经济把资源集中的最有能力的少数人手里，让他们支配投资，从而提高整个经济的运营效率，达到所有人共赢。。 但这个模型在目前资本全球化的社会里是不存在的。。
所以我是支持中国目前部分资本管制措施，资本家可以发财，但需要他们把赚来的钱继续在国内投资/消费，这才能带动国内经济。。
气候恶劣
城市规划乱的恐怖
英国人管理的地方，城市规划真是差到极点
德国媒体说
英国人是最差的城市规划者
凡是英国人管理的地方，
城市规划都是乱七八糟， 街道乱七八糟，建筑乌烟瘴气
没有一点点次序
私有化泛滥成灾
为什么呢，他们对鸽子笼情有独钟？
让少部分人先富起来 如果那些先富跑路了就玩球了 没毛病
曼哈顿也是岩石有没有人建房呢
可惜中国被搞成了大号的香港。
谁不知道港岛学校好，房子好，交通方便？半山浅水湾更好呢，旺中带静，独立别墅。有钱就可以买私人楼宇挑地方住，没钱有啥可挑的。政府盖的公共屋邨全部都是在边远地带，配套设施和公共交通全都会跟着慢慢建立起来，就这样排队等着上公屋都要至少7年呢。HK人就是嘴上说说，真盖好了，全部超额几倍递表申请住进去，越快上楼越好。
然后房价还是天价。国内房子没绿地照样天价
相当部分反对得人也是已经拥有房产得“老百姓”啊。这些人怕自己已经拥有得房产会跌呢。也都很难怪人家上了岸就想法不一样，搁你们身上也一样不会希望自己得资产贬值不是？
这些人真的是太黑心了
嗯， 资本逐利，走到极致，确实会很可怕
说起来，政府可能还是比资本家有良心一点。
毕竟，政府不能完全把市民剥削到死，民心也还是要一点得。
香港人要自己养老，税收走了怎么养活年老的自己?
这取决于你身价。。。取决于你是在香港拥有住宅的那一半人，还是买不起房，或者说住鸽子笼的另一半。。
出门几分钟就能进山野公园登山确实很爽，但背后的代价是啥？ 作为一个社会，绝大多数民众背负天价房贷，就为了让少部分人出门多点绿化？？
香港现在750万人口，这是目前房价的平衡点。想去香港的人很多，现在主要是房价拦着。
放出更多土地，房价会降。好比说房价降10%，人口增加到1000万，房价降20%，人口增加到3000万，到时候市政跟不上各种乱象，参考墨西哥城。
一个非香港居民购房受限制就能解决的事。。。
更何况 香港房价从来就不是市场经济，决定房价的最关键的土地供应就不是市场化的，其它还用说啥
限制购房严重影响香港竞争力。本来是每年新增几万人口都是最成功人士，限购直接导致外来精英无法落户，香港人口“近亲繁殖”。
土地供应是城市规划范畴，从来就不是市场。市场化指的是在规划范围内的运作。需要土地的话，北京故宫，杭州西湖都是最好的地，可以推平故宫，填上西湖。但并没有这么做，因为城市规划永远在土地开发之上的。
+1
Very well said, indeed!
Q 反觀今日之香港，最大的問題仍然是民生，是就業，是住房，是年輕人的希望，是經濟上的不民主。
https://www.hk01.com/ 周報/592453/一國兩制2-0-北京想要打造怎樣的香港管治團隊 UQ
外来精英，比如说中环金融业的，哪怕是目前房价也不是负担不起。。更何况，香港金融业/大量外派人士长期都有很不错的房贴政策。。
天价房价，倒霉的永远是买不起房的中下层。。影响的不是竞争力，而是社会稳定度。。
房价下降20%同时人口增加到3000万对香港底层人民绝对是噩梦
<想去香港的人很多，现在主要是房价拦着. 放出更多土地，房价会降.>
Currently, just like having 2 HKs co-existed concurrently in HK.
It seems new wealthy HKers from Mainland can easily afford high priced houses, while old average HKers cannot, due to lack of suitable jobs or viable industries in HK, where the only resource is land (to sell at highest possible price by auction) .
A Laissez-faire economics and leadership for a new HK city nowadays may not be suitable or viable anymore, in long run.
Looks like the leaders in HK Government must be extremely strategic and talented in order to direct HK to a better future.
Q 此外，香港樓價高企、教育及醫療資源緊絀等現實問題，也使小程對於在香港定居望而卻步。「在瑞典工作狀態相對輕鬆，買房很便宜，公立醫療和教育資源充足。我放棄了那邊的環境選擇香港這個高難度的地方，讓我感覺有落差。」他說。 2019年「理大圍城」時，學校安排小程居於深圳的青年公寓。「我非常喜歡深圳的生活。走在街上，讓我有一種親切感，覺得自己屬於那裏。」這種感受堅定了他回內地的決心。
https://www.hk01.com/ 周報/638762/港漂-二-缺長遠規劃-香港淪為-人才-中轉站 UQ
国内更严重吧，房价和香港差不多了，工资低不少
九龙有一块也是名校很多，刚到更多元化
香港人民绝对不想这样
香港房价还是高了不少
Q
1979 年 3 月 29 日，邓小平在北京会见时任香港总督麦理浩。香港大部分土地的租约将于 1997 年到期，麦理浩谈到，有必要让港人放心，因为他们对 1997 年之后的前景深感担忧。
会谈结束后他们起身向外走时，邓小平向麦理浩做了个手势，身高超过 1 米 8 的香港总督俯下身，听到这位身高只有一米五几的中国领导人对他说： “如果觉得管理香港不容易，管理中国试试？ ”
https://www.6parknews.com/ UQ
人口自然有人口的管理方法，哪里会大嘴一张就3000万了，这也太邪乎了。