Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued updated guidance for fully vaccinated people, stating that they no longer need to wear masks in any settings besides health care and public transportation, no longer need to distance from others outside their households, and no longer need to quarantine themselves or get tested if they have been exposed to Covid-19 but don’t show symptoms. But the science does not back up this abandonment of public health infection control measures based on vaccination status alone.National Nurses United has issued a scientific brief that analyzes the faulty science behind the CDC’s latest guidance and explains the science showing multiple measures are still needed to curb Covid-19.Read the brief → Study after study shows that multiple measures, including masks, are needed to stop the spread of Covid-19. Covid-19 vaccines are effective at preventing serious infections, hospitalizations, and deaths in a majority of people, but we cannot depend on vaccination alone: First, just over 37 percent of people in the United States have been fully vaccinated. And children under 12 years currently do not have access to a vaccine.Second, no vaccine is 100 percent effective.Third, there are still many unknowns about vaccines, including how long immunity lasts, whether they work against the proliferating number of Covid variants circulating, and if they prevent transmission by vaccinated, infected people with mild or asymptomatic cases. Additionally, the CDC announced last week that it is no longer tracking cases of “breakthrough infections,” meaning people who have been vaccinated but still get infected, unless they lead to hospitalization or death. The CDC appears to have based its guidance upon real-world vaccine efficacy data that is incomplete. Many of the studies cited were either not yet peer reviewed, were conducted by people with a conflict of interest or by a vaccine manufacturer itself, or reported poor statistical certainty in the findings.In short, the CDC simply is not collecting the data needed to know whether its recommendations for vaccinated people hold true.Read more about why union nurses are urging the CDC to revoke and revise its recent guidance for vaccinated people.The science is clear: Given what we know and what is still unknown, we must take the safety-first route to protect public health by maintaining multiple measures of infection control, including masking, while at the same time working harder to increase vaccination rates.
虽然我100%支持撤销CDC的傻逼政策，但是National Nurses United 是什么组织？ 作为护士，护士之中最大的组织应该是ANA American Nurses Association silenceyh 发表于 2021-05-18 23:47
National Nurses United, with more than 170,000 members nationwide, is the largest union and professional association of registered nurses in U.S. history.
Fauci just said, people misinterpret CDC guideline, so it is people's fault. As a public health agency, why they want to confuse people in the first place??? I suspect they have a special agenda or this is a trap.
because only 50% of adults are vaccinated. children under 12 are not vaccinated. People who are anti-vaccines are people who do not want to wear mask. If the mandate is there, it will force those people to wear one in public. CDC''s guideline put young children in great danger. Do you want to take your young child to grocery store when you don''t know who is vaccinated, who is not? Mask is just the most cheap and simple way to help stop this pandemic, CDC is pure dumb.
because only 50% of adults are vaccinated. children under 12 are not vaccinated. People who are anti-vaccines are people who do not want to wear mask. If the mandate is there, it will force those people to wear one in public. CDC''s guideline put young children in great danger. Do you want to take your young child to grocery store when you don''t know who is vaccinated, who is not? Mask is just the most cheap and simple way to help stop this pandemic, CDC is pure dumb. brookeyang 发表于 2021-05-19 15:34
because only 50% of adults are vaccinated. children under 12 are not vaccinated. People who are anti-vaccines are people who do not want to wear mask. If the mandate is there, it will force those people to wear one in public. CDC''''s guideline put young children in great danger. Do you want to take your young child to grocery store when you don''''t know who is vaccinated, who is not? Mask is just the most cheap and simple way to help stop this pandemic, CDC is pure dumb. brookeyang 发表于 2021-05-19 15:34
because only 50% of adults are vaccinated. children under 12 are not vaccinated. People who are anti-vaccines are people who do not want to wear mask. If the mandate is there, it will force those people to wear one in public. CDC''''''''s guideline put young children in great danger. Do you want to take your young child to grocery store when you don''''''''t know who is vaccinated, who is not? Mask is just the most cheap and simple way to help stop this pandemic, CDC is pure dumb. brookeyang 发表于 2021-05-19 15:34
CDC is corrupted.
今天俺去宣布 fully vaccinated 不用带口罩的 Trader Joe，没有一个人不带口罩，包括所有店员。
现在这个时候，大多数美国人还是很有 sense 的。
作为护士 护士工会有没听说过?
还真没，从来没加过工会哈哈哈哈
这句话好像也可以理解为，都没打疫苗？？包括店员
National Nurses United, with more than 170,000 members nationwide, is the largest union and professional association of registered nurses in U.S. history.
犀利！
CDC这一年来尽是bullshit。 去年初不鼓励戴口罩是因为口罩短缺。如今口罩已经不再是紧俏商品了， 却在疫情未完全控制的情况下解除口罩令，不知道心怀什么鬼胎。
Good
据说跟蜜柚一把手冲突，那个一把手一看就是drama queen
前一段时间英国变种横行的时候，她做戏似的说，I am scared
象牙塔里呆久了，没有实战经验
CDC最近有两个高层辞职了，其中一个是专门负责呼吸道疾病控制的。
坚持戴口罩的肯定不是川粉和anti-vaxxer。后者跟反口罩人士重合度极高。
解散了算了。害人的玩意
命是自己的，谁爱听CDC谁听去。
让amazon的管理层来接替CDC管理层，好好管管CDC。
不得不说大多数人还是有从众心理，所以越是现在戴与不戴交锋之际越更要戴口罩，让犹豫戴不戴的人也从众戴口罩，希望能坚持大多数戴口罩久一点。 目前从我这儿周边看来，即使CDC出了这个不用戴口罩的建议，大多数还是在坚持戴，特别是indoor。
because only 50% of adults are vaccinated. children under 12 are not vaccinated. People who are anti-vaccines are people who do not want to wear mask. If the mandate is there, it will force those people to wear one in public. CDC''s guideline put young children in great danger. Do you want to take your young child to grocery store when you don''t know who is vaccinated, who is not? Mask is just the most cheap and simple way to help stop this pandemic, CDC is pure dumb.
打了疫苗就没有危险了。小孩本身就没风险，不需要打疫苗。
Also
疫苗才是真正的只保护自己 不保护别人的
打了疫苗重症率低一点 但是还是可以继续传播病毒的
新加坡机场传播链表明，打完疫苗不但仍有机会得病，而且会继续传播病毒，如果不注意自我防护，就很容易造成破口。
所有说口罩对防范病毒没有效果的人，如果医生给你做手术也不戴口罩，你会不会同意？
我们单位也是， CDC害人不浅
你跟他个新ID解释啥啊 疫情之下，为别人着想，其实也是为自己着想 我家有孩子，别人家也有孩子 一直喊着孩子得新冠没危险的，就是完全鬼扯 并不是每一个孩子都是健康无疾病的 谁愿意拿自己孩子去冒险，谁自己去，我不奉陪
问题是州里还没有解除口罩令啊? 我经常搞不懂, 联邦和州里到底谁override谁? 怎么有时候州里说了算有时候不是?
这种情况，你就自己选择戴 CDC说可以不戴了，不等于不允许戴了 你有戴的自由，其实就是进去那一会儿戴 跟陌生人打交道的情况下，戴比不戴安全
没有人强迫你脱口罩，选择自己舒服的方式 昨天不是有人发帖说，从众取下了口罩 但心里是慌的，回家以后还一直慌，所以来发帖 没必要，戴让你觉得安全，就戴上
当然我知道我可以选择戴, 但是大家马上都不戴了理论上就是增加了环境的危险性...我只是感慨这么快就都脱了.
好多人都迫不及待了……
不过说实话，我还没有看到过一种疫苗是100%有效的。。按护士工会说法，是没有100%有效疫苗就一直戴口罩了么？口罩也不是100%防止吧？（我看好多人都戴布口罩） 一直戴口罩in public，这也太难过了，covid-19倒是预防了，问题是会不会长期忧郁啊，夏天也热啊
太好了 我这几天去mall，stop shop还有local的店 也没有看见不戴口罩的
并不是一直戴，至少有个观察期 现在依然日增3--4万，印度也没有停航过，机场也没有检测 印度也曾经宣布抗疫胜利，现在呢？
疫情早期，虽然各种未知，但对付呼吸道传染病，最简单的办法，就是戴口罩 结果CDC跟大姑娘上轿似的，迟迟不说戴口罩，世界最慢 现在疫苗也没打够，变种也来了不少，摘口罩倒是世界第一快
嗯嗯，我觉得CDC是破罐子破摔了，反正我也没有credibility了，爱说啥说啥，你们爱听的听听不进的爱干嘛干嘛
所以你们真的有人不戴了吗
你是傻逼吗？
see？
cdc的脑残宣传下 新冠永不绝
即使当时连疫苗都没有
现在疫情对孩子影响最大 一来是他们还没有疫苗，容易感染上 二来，这个跟乙肝一样，是病毒类，当时也许没有事，但孩子们并没有能力杀死全部病毒，会一直潜伏在体内，未来怎么发展，没人知道。目前乙肝也是这种情况。成年以后感染乙肝，大多数可以自身杀灭，但幼儿时期感染上乙肝，几乎是终身制了
我们大德州早早废除口罩令，的确戴口罩出门在一堆不戴口罩溜达的群众中是有压力的。
再坚持一下下，不是不摘口罩，我觉得是缓一点摘 疫苗出来了，药物也会出来的，要相信我们的科学家们
其实疫情期间，从始至终 那些受教育程度高一点的，都是好好戴口罩 记得那时看NASA直播，个个都是N95 我去那种有药房的超市，隔壁员工就乱戴布口罩 这边药房个个都是医用口罩，谁傻不傻，心里有数
你怎么这么sure？长期也没用后遗症吗？很多得了艾滋病的孩子，小时候也没事儿，长大了各种问题都出来了
不知道你经历过什么 你对护士的偏见还真不小
在美国说打了疫苗不用戴口罩 = 大家都不用戴口罩，你看到什么地方真的要看打过疫苗的证明吗？