18位科学家在Science上的公开信:调查新冠起源

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little_racoon
楼主 (北美华人网)
看起来是被这几天关于gain-of-function研究的大讨论给炸出来的,认为新冠的自然起源和实验室事故两种可能需要得到同样认真的对待。这些可不是什么无名之辈,基本上都是大佬,我直接把名单和affliliation列在下面了。这里面有研究冠状病毒多年的Ralph Baric,他最出名的身份应该是石正丽的合作者,一起研究怎么让蝙蝠冠状病毒通过ACE2受体感染人的细胞。然后还有Jesse Bloom, Ravi Gupta, Pamela Bjorkman, Akiko Iwasaki这些新冠病毒研究第一线的大人物(肯定还有我没认出来的,欢迎补充),一年多以来大量关于新冠病理、诊断、免疫、进化的工作都是他们的实验室搞出来的,说实话在这个世界上很难找到比这帮人更了解新冠病毒的人了。

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1
Jesse D. Bloom1,2, Yujia Alina Chan3, Ralph S. Baric4, Pamela J. Bjorkman5, Sarah Cobey6, Benjamin E. Deverman3, David N. Fisman7, Ravindra Gupta8, Akiko Iwasaki9,2, Marc Lipsitch10, Ruslan Medzhitov9,2, Richard A. Neher11, Rasmus Nielsen12, Nick Patterson13, Tim Stearns14, Erik van Nimwegen11, Michael Worobey15, David A. Relman16,17,* 1Basic Sciences and Computational Biology, Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Seattle, WA 98109, USA. 2Howard Hughes Medical Institute, Chevy Chase, MD 20815, USA. 3Stanley Center for Psychiatric Research, Broad Institute of Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02142, USA. 4Department of Epidemiology and Department of Microbiology & Immunology, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA. 5Division of Biology and Biological Engineering, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA 91125, USA. 6Department of Ecology and Evolution, University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637, USA. 7Dalla Lana School of Public Health, University of Toronto, Toronto, ON M5S 1A8, Canada. 8Cambridge Institute of Therapeutic Immunology & Infectious Disease, Cambridge, UK. 9Department of Immunobiology, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT 06519, USA. 10Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases and Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, Department of Epidemiology, Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health, Boston, MA 02115, USA. 11Biozentrum, University of Basel and Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics, Basel, Switzerland. 12Department of Integrative Biology and Department of Statistics, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA. 13Department of Human Evolutionary Biology, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA 02138, USA. 14Department of Biology and Department of Genetics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305, USA. 15Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721, USA. 16Department of Medicine and Department of Microbiology & Immunology, Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, CA 94305, USA. 17Center for International Security and Cooperation, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305, USA.
公开信原文如下:

On 30 December 2019, the Program for Monitoring Emerging Diseases notified the world about a pneumonia of unknown cause in Wuhan, China (1). Since then, scientists have made remarkable progress in understanding the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), its transmission, pathogenesis, and mitigation by vaccines, therapeutics, and non-pharmaceutical interventions. Yet more investigation is still needed to determine the origin of the pandemic. Theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable. Knowing how COVID-19 emerged is critical for informing global strategies to mitigate the risk of future outbreaks.
In May 2020, the World Health Assembly requested that the World Health Organization (WHO) director-general work closely with partners to determine the origins of SARS-CoV-2 (2). In November, the Terms of Reference for a China–WHO joint study were released (3). The information, data, and samples for the study's first phase were collected and summarized by the Chinese half of the team; the rest of the team built on this analysis. Although there were no findings in clear support of either a natural spillover or a lab accident, the team assessed a zoonotic spillover from an intermediate host as “likely to very likely,” and a laboratory incident as “extremely unlikely” [(4), p. 9]. Furthermore, the two theories were not given balanced consideration. Only 4 of the 313 pages of the report and its annexes addressed the possibility of a laboratory accident (4). Notably, WHO Director-General Tedros Ghebreyesus commented that the report's consideration of evidence supporting a laboratory accident was insufficient and offered to provide additional resources to fully evaluate the possibility (5).
As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
Finally, in this time of unfortunate anti-Asian sentiment in some countries, we note that at the beginning of the pandemic, it was Chinese doctors, scientists, journalists, and citizens who shared with the world crucial information about the spread of the virus—often at great personal cost (89). We should show the same determination in promoting a dispassionate science-based discourse on this difficult but important issue.
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chillywind88
Ralph Baric 他自己问问屎正丽啊?他们不是认识么
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vvdd
支持溯缘。 但是靠这些科学家应该挖不出来了,要中情局上吧。 研究所后来军队接管了,所有资料基本上就进了黑洞。
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lovedarren
他们研究如何让冠状病毒通过ace2受体感染人的细胞?这个研究的目的何在?一直以为他们的研究是侧重于研究预防或者了解病毒本身。
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ebc
这个帖子是秒移了吗?我觉得刚才在闲话版看的。。
晴天娃娃Olivia
确实应该调查,要是动物身上来的话,要想办法把那破动物扑杀了,不然一不小心源源不断的出现怎么办?
晴天娃娃Olivia
这不算政治帖吧?晕
阳光下的蓝莓树
这是SCIENCE,不是政治帖。无法理解。
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bigjohn123456
特意赶过来支持一把。 哎,虽然作为华人如果是实验室泄露会对我们不利,但是做鸵鸟是没有用的。
阳光下的蓝莓树
也许是自然起源,还一个清白也说不定。总之,一定要调查个彻底。这是大好事。
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bigjohn123456
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http://www.xinhuanet.com/world/2021-05/13/c_1127441793.htm
今天的发言,表面是针对新疆问题,我感觉一语双关啊
阳光下的蓝莓树
最后一段,感谢中国的医生,科学家里有李文亮,CITATION 8,9.
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hellensiao
这个不是政治贴啊。请版主移回闲话版。
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noshock
这个不是政治贴啊。请版主移回闲话版。
hellensiao 发表于 2021-05-13 23:01

哪位版主现在随心所欲,无视版规,应当作出解释,不要引起公愤。
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hnlaser
今年站出来的科学家感觉跟去年跳出来的不一伙?
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brookeyang
这个信也没什么新意啊,只是强调要更透明data driven的溯源,并感谢了疫情初期的中国医生和科学家向全世界提供了信息。 那些一上来就轮子的恐怕连这个letter都没读吧。装驼鸟也没什么用,随着全世界逐步复苏,这种要求调查的声音只能越来越多。
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Frosty07
会有结果吗?
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Apriltree
这个帖子为啥属于政治版?
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isabel
不意外的是,David Relman几个月前就在PNAS上发公开信了,这里他是最后一个作者很正常。 意外的是, Jesse Bloom一直在做变种分析,我跟了他的Twitter, 他从来没说起源问题,结果在公开信里是第一作者。可以想象,跟踪变种的科学家知道突变的速度,对最初病毒的产生更容易疑惑。
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zhegufei
建议中国制裁这个18个居心叵测的科学家。 不允许招收中国籍学生,不允许到中国参加会议,不允许和中国学者合作,不允许投稿到中国刊物。