回复 3楼EvenOdd的帖子 Per Aquinas God can be defined as "ipsum esse subsistens", in English, the stuff that causes the existence of all subsistence/all things.
Sacraficium intellectus is such an interesting term also, when you sacrifice intelligence, you really become dumb, and open to superstition. Unfortunately a lot of religious people - not all - fall for that, so their faith becomes superstition.
回复 3楼EvenOdd的帖子 Per Aquinas God can be defined as "ipsum esse subsistens", in English, the stuff that causes the existence of all subsistence/all things.
pilingjushi 发表于 2021-04-30 16:20
Perhaps God is about the nature/universe, man, all things, and beyond. When church goers during worship are separetd by expensive walls amd kept away from nature things like beautiful flowers/bids/trees/fresh-sir/sunlight/etc , likely something is missing. When church building after worship is locked and closed to homeless (wo)men suffering in cool/raining days by expensive walls, likely God is missing too!
Perhaps when people can use religious ways to neglect or separate from real world problems, (even if not cause more societal and political problems, ) that already could be a big problem. Maybe philosophy should be more practical, like a practical philosophy e.g. Stoicism, and be used to solve/overcome human and societal probllems, like economy and politics.
Peacebuilding: My religion is Stoicism, believing God is the Universe/Nature, Natural Law (Spirituality), and all things (inc. Jesus) and beyond (inc. mysteries), as explained and searched by science and rationality. 我的宗教是斯多葛主义，相信上帝是宇宙/自然，自然法则（灵性), 以及万物（包括耶稣）和超越一切（包括奥秘），正如科学和理性所解释和探讨的那样。
Perhaps when people can use religious ways to neglect or separate from real world problems, (even if not cause more societal and political problems, ) that already could be a big problem. Maybe philosophy should be more practical, like a practical philosophy e.g. Stoicism, and be used to solve/overcome human and societal probllems, like economy and politics. EvenOdd 发表于 2021-04-30 17:22
Q A study in 2018 estimated that 38% of the population are not members of any religious organization or denomination,[221] though up to a third may still consider themselves religious. Irreligion in Germany is strongest in the former East Germany, which used to be predominantly Protestant before the enforcement of state atheism, and in major metropolitan areas. UQ Q Australia has one of the lowest levels of religious adherence in the world.[305] In 2018, 13% of women and 10% of men reported attending church at least weekly. UQ
Q https://www.investopedia.com/updates/top-developing-countries/ Top 10 Countries by GDP (PPP) GDP-PPP Rank CountryGDP-PPP in USD trillions (2017 est.) 1 China $23.16 2 United States $19.39 3 India $9.47 4 Japan $5.43 5 Germany $4.17 6 Russia $4.00 7 Indonesia $3.24 8 Brazil $3.24 9 United Kingdom $2.91 10 France $2.83 UQ
Perhaps God is about the nature/universe, man, all things, and beyond. When church goers during worship are separetd by expensive walls amd kept away from nature things like beautiful flowers/bids/trees/fresh-sir/sunlight/etc , likely something is missing. When church building after worship is locked and closed to homeless (wo)men suffering in cool/raining days by expensive walls, likely God is missing too! EvenOdd 发表于 2021-04-30 16:59
Personally, I don"t think Jesus was very welcome by religious worship places in his age, as he is not much a person of any religions, besides criticisms - AFAIK. Therefore, he was preaching in market places and in wilderness, perhaps not often preaching inside nice walls of worship building. Maybe Christian actually means Jesus-likeness as in Greek bible, instead of Christ-likeness as in human-made theology. Christ should be and must be unique as an once-for-ever for-all event, theologically speaking, whereas Jesus-likeness can be many many, whether or not learning from Jesus (being wholely part of God), bible, or anything else, or any religion else. (cf. Acts)
13世纪Thomas Aquinas的Summa Theologica以Utrum deus sit（上帝存在吗）开头通过对一系列问题的解答，意在证明人是可以用理性推理的方式理解、证明上帝的存在与宗教的真实性。
中世纪欧洲人得出结论宗教信仰与人的理智不矛盾。Fides (faith)不等于 Sacraficium intellectus（sacrifice of the intellect就是迷信）而是建立在razio（ration理智）之上。
但信仰和理智又不是一样的东西。就像人无法控制上帝宇宙一样，信仰不能完全受理智制约，用十世纪St Anselm话讲Fides quarrens intellectum, 信仰可以引导人的理智智慧。
所以信仰有点象男女恋爱。没有理智的爱是迷信的爱，清醒过来要后悔。太理智的人则很难进入恋爱，因为要坠入爱河不能全靠理智，还需要在通过理性分析之后的“纵身一跳”。
Per Aquinas God can be defined as "ipsum esse subsistens", in English, the stuff that causes the existence of all subsistence/all things.
Me too, but I don''t wanna go for superstition either
OZ New Curriculum cultural diversity: Dumps Christian heritage https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2680132&fid=384
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock-Flow_consistent_model UQ
是啊，不过人怀疑太大也不好，就像太理智的人，永远不会坠入爱河，永远没有那种“爱过”的经历
Perhaps God is about the nature/universe, man, all things, and beyond.
When church goers during worship are separetd by expensive walls amd kept away from nature things like beautiful flowers/bids/trees/fresh-sir/sunlight/etc , likely something is missing.
When church building after worship is locked and closed to homeless (wo)men suffering in cool/raining days by expensive walls, likely God is missing too!
“我是谁”“人是什么”归根结底也是宗教问题
Maybe philosophy should be more practical, like a practical philosophy e.g. Stoicism, and be used to solve/overcome human and societal probllems, like economy and politics.
My religion is Stoicism, believing God is the Universe/Nature, Natural Law (Spirituality), and all things (inc. Jesus) and beyond (inc. mysteries), as explained and searched by science and rationality. 我的宗教是斯多葛主义，相信上帝是宇宙/自然，自然法则（灵性), 以及万物（包括耶稣）和超越一切（包括奥秘），正如科学和理性所解释和探讨的那样。
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应该说让人脱离现实或与现实不符的宗教不是正统的宗教，而是迷信
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Q A study in 2018 estimated that 38% of the population are not members of any religious organization or denomination,[221] though up to a third may still consider themselves religious. Irreligion in Germany is strongest in the former East Germany, which used to be predominantly Protestant before the enforcement of state atheism, and in major metropolitan areas. UQ
Q Australia has one of the lowest levels of religious adherence in the world.[305] In 2018, 13% of women and 10% of men reported attending church at least weekly. UQ
Top 10 Countries by GDP (PPP)
GDP-PPP Rank Country GDP-PPP in USD trillions (2017 est.)
1 China $23.16 2 United States $19.39 3 India $9.47 4 Japan $5.43 5 Germany $4.17 6 Russia $4.00 7 Indonesia $3.24 8 Brazil $3.24 9 United Kingdom $2.91 10 France $2.83 UQ
Personally, I don"t think Jesus was very welcome by religious worship places in his age, as he is not much a person of any religions, besides criticisms - AFAIK.
Therefore, he was preaching in market places and in wilderness, perhaps not often preaching inside nice walls of worship building.
Maybe Christian actually means Jesus-likeness as in Greek bible, instead of Christ-likeness as in human-made theology.
Christ should be and must be unique as an once-for-ever for-all event, theologically speaking, whereas Jesus-likeness can be many many, whether or not learning from Jesus (being wholely part of God), bible, or anything else, or any religion else. (cf. Acts)