WARNING: COVID19 new mutation is giving false negatives in Nasal swaps. The virus is now hitting straight into the lungs. It is carrying no symptoms like fever or cough. Just body ache, weakness, loss of appetite. Patients go from mild condition to extreme life and death situation within 8 to 10 hours. Patients that have previous recovered from COVID19 in last year or so are at higher risk as their respiratory system is still not fully recovered. When they get the new mutation their fatality rate is much higher. We are receiving data from across India and it is not just alarming, it is an absolute disaster of historical proportions. We suspect Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh will all now be experiencing the new mutations of virus and face a dire situation just like India. Our colleagues in small towns across India especially North Eastern regions are saying it is a battle we have already lost. It is now damage control and save as many lives as possible. We have seen 400 plus children just in our district die within 10 to 12 hours. Intitial period they showed no symptoms and within hours their oxygen levels dropped and deceased. We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died. Health services both in public and private hospitals have collapsed. Rich, middle class and poor all are affected and it is spreading fast, very fast. Any further mutation or variants will potentially be a doomsday scenario. This is a WARNING go to extreme precautionsfor everyone in your household. From children to elders. This virus is no longer containable in India. Our government and systems have failed. No one could have ever anticipated this. For all other developing countries with weak healthcare systems please note this is beyond all our capacities. Let’s work towards trying to stop the spread even if it means an ironclad lockdown or else the only thing we will have left is a body count statistic that would make the Spanish flu look like a non event. Message from Dr Pradeep Senha Sassoon General Hospital Maharashtra 印度医生的意见是，西班牙流感较之这个变种就是个P。
WARNING: COVID19 new mutation is giving false negatives in Nasal swaps. The virus is now hitting straight into the lungs. It is carrying no symptoms like fever or cough. Just body ache, weakness, loss of appetite. Patients go from mild condition to extreme life and death situation within 8 to 10 hours. Patients that have previous recovered from COVID19 in last year or so are at higher risk as their respiratory system is still not fully recovered. When they get the new mutation their fatality rate is much higher. We are receiving data from across India and it is not just alarming, it is an absolute disaster of historical proportions. We suspect Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh will all now be experiencing the new mutations of virus and face a dire situation just like India. Our colleagues in small towns across India especially North Eastern regions are saying it is a battle we have already lost. It is now damage control and save as many lives as possible. We have seen 400 plus children just in our district die within 10 to 12 hours. Intitial period they showed no symptoms and within hours their oxygen levels dropped and deceased. We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died. Health services both in public and private hospitals have collapsed. Rich, middle class and poor all are affected and it is spreading fast, very fast. Any further mutation or variants will potentially be a doomsday scenario. This is a WARNING go to extreme precautionsfor everyone in your household. From children to elders. This virus is no longer containable in India. Our government and systems have failed. No one could have ever anticipated this. For all other developing countries with weak healthcare systems please note this is beyond all our capacities. Let’s work towards trying to stop the spread even if it means an ironclad lockdown or else the only thing we will have left is a body count statistic that would make the Spanish flu look like a non event. Message from Dr Pradeep Senha Sassoon General Hospital Maharashtra 印度医生的意见是，西班牙流感较之这个变种就是个P。 coalpilerd 发表于 2021-04-29 00:40
WARNING: COVID19 new mutation is giving false negatives in Nasal swaps. The virus is now hitting straight into the lungs. It is carrying no symptoms like fever or cough. Just body ache, weakness, loss of appetite. Patients go from mild condition to extreme life and death situation within 8 to 10 hours. Patients that have previous recovered from COVID19 in last year or so are at higher risk as their respiratory system is still not fully recovered. When they get the new mutation their fatality rate is much higher. We are receiving data from across India and it is not just alarming, it is an absolute disaster of historical proportions. We suspect Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh will all now be experiencing the new mutations of virus and face a dire situation just like India. Our colleagues in small towns across India especially North Eastern regions are saying it is a battle we have already lost. It is now damage control and save as many lives as possible. We have seen 400 plus children just in our district die within 10 to 12 hours. Intitial period they showed no symptoms and within hours their oxygen levels dropped and deceased. We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died. Health services both in public and private hospitals have collapsed. Rich, middle class and poor all are affected and it is spreading fast, very fast. Any further mutation or variants will potentially be a doomsday scenario. This is a WARNING go to extreme precautionsfor everyone in your household. From children to elders. This virus is no longer containable in India. Our government and systems have failed. No one could have ever anticipated this. For all other developing countries with weak healthcare systems please note this is beyond all our capacities. Let’s work towards trying to stop the spread even if it means an ironclad lockdown or else the only thing we will have left is a body count statistic that would make the Spanish flu look like a non event. Message from Dr Pradeep Senha Sassoon General Hospital Maharashtra 印度医生的意见是，西班牙流感较之这个变种就是个P。 coalpilerd 发表于 2021-04-29 00:40
WARNING: COVID19 new mutation is giving false negatives in Nasal swaps. The virus is now hitting straight into the lungs. It is carrying no symptoms like fever or cough. Just body ache, weakness, loss of appetite. Patients go from mild condition to extreme life and death situation within 8 to 10 hours. Patients that have previous recovered from COVID19 in last year or so are at higher risk as their respiratory system is still not fully recovered. When they get the new mutation their fatality rate is much higher. We are receiving data from across India and it is not just alarming, it is an absolute disaster of historical proportions. We suspect Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh will all now be experiencing the new mutations of virus and face a dire situation just like India. Our colleagues in small towns across India especially North Eastern regions are saying it is a battle we have already lost. It is now damage control and save as many lives as possible. We have seen 400 plus children just in our district die within 10 to 12 hours. Intitial period they showed no symptoms and within hours their oxygen levels dropped and deceased. We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died. Health services both in public and private hospitals have collapsed. Rich, middle class and poor all are affected and it is spreading fast, very fast. Any further mutation or variants will potentially be a doomsday scenario. This is a WARNING go to extreme precautionsfor everyone in your household. From children to elders. This virus is no longer containable in India. Our government and systems have failed. No one could have ever anticipated this. For all other developing countries with weak healthcare systems please note this is beyond all our capacities. Let’s work towards trying to stop the spread even if it means an ironclad lockdown or else the only thing we will have left is a body count statistic that would make the Spanish flu look like a non event. Message from Dr Pradeep Senha Sassoon General Hospital Maharashtra 印度医生的意见是，西班牙流感较之这个变种就是个P。 coalpilerd 发表于 2021-04-29 00:40
最可怕的是医生说接种过国外疫苗的人里也死了一大半，美国还不赶紧断航啊？！ We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died.
最可怕的是医生说接种过国外疫苗的人里也死了一大半，美国还不赶紧断航啊？！ We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died. ranran 发表于 2021-04-29 10:10
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为啥跑到火星没用？
湖北什么时候军管了？
我不觉得hard lesson就一定能学会。他们信奉几千上万的神。
马一龙的飞船只够坐他的朋友家人。其实跑到火星也没用，晚死几个月而已。
武汉没有军管。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
你看看西班牙流感流了多久消失的？ 希望能帮的国家都帮帮印度，老百姓是最受伤害的。不赶紧止住的话，出现各种变种再传回到全世界，大家都会遭殃的。
正想问当年人口有多少
医疗崩了而且一直不能恢复的话，1%是打不住的。
大约2亿4千万
医院已经塞满了，以至于死者都没有办法尽快移出去为那些奄奄一息的病患腾地方，城市里的大街小巷处处都是遗体和那些将死之人；邮政和电报服务已经完全乱套了，火车还在继续运行，但尸体和只剩一口气的病患不断从火车上搬下来扔到车站；用于火葬的圣塔和坟场已经堆满了尸体，而旁边还有更多的尸体在等待处理；由于缺乏焚烧尸体的木材，印度所有的河流都已经漂满尸体；医院已经人满为患，医疗资源早已被疫情耗尽，甚至已经没有办法分出哪怕一分钟给需要治疗的其他病人；几乎所有的家庭都在恸哭刚刚逝去的亲人，所有的地方都已经被恐惧和迷茫所统治。
这不是最近的文字，这是1918年，英国殖民地医疗最高长官写给英国政府的报告，感觉和最近的印度情形几乎一摸一样
疫苗来不及了。印度每天最多打300万，即使你有疫苗，也找不到那么多医护人员。 加上疫苗有效期6个月或者一年，全打完需要12年。
只能快速的建方舱，集中力量救轻症，隔绝传播
所以来不及了，西班牙流感老路再走一遍，老百姓倒霉了。
是的，印度现在能做的是救轻症了，重症什么的只能被放弃了，不然整个国家的医疗，社会，会完全拖累。 其实，这次充分说明，美国实力还是强大，整个医疗体系底蕴非常强
还真是这么回事
可能还要多，那天reddit那个贴子, 记得有印度人说前前后后几年死了10-20 crore，但是可怕的是好大一部分是集中死于几个月里。
应该是多种原因。我经常看的新闻评论节目几个月前就在说印度可能是一个雷，因为covid存在瞒报漏报或者不报的情况。
中国政府用过了，这个方法再有用，民主国家也不能再用了。。。 不信的话，参考口罩
Message from Dr Pradeep Senha Sassoon General Hospital Maharashtra
印度医生的意见是，西班牙流感较之这个变种就是个P。
请问你的突然的概念是多久？3年还是5年？
为什么总是有不懂医也不懂流行病学的，出来喊疫苗喊新药，说得好像疫苗和新药就跟金庸笔下的武林秘籍一样，能瞬间遮天换日奇迹大改造一样。 与其把希望放在这些根本没影不靠谱的东西上面，还不如学武汉经验，好好封城，好好全民检测，举国举世界之力支援。武汉一个多月就平息了疫情，充分说明事在人为，没有什么困难是强大的人力克服不了的。问题是想不想做而已。
普通印度人用不起新药。印度政府也不觉得印度穷人值那么多钱的药。
可能每次流行病，印度的数字都无法统计吧，管理实在太糟糕了，还瞒报
不知道美国的够不够？如果全部够了，确实应该考虑出口一点原料给印度，但是美国这边最好多备一点，不是说还有第三针甚至第四针吗
临床交给印度人做就对了。
我看了一个生活在印度的人的文章，这是事实啊
真的假的啊，很难想象，如果是这样，恐怕要造成二次瘟疫
封城和强制不许出门是民主国家一直谴责的，他们没法这么做，光这版上多少人喊着宁愿得病也不愿意强制隔离的
现在每年的流感都是西班牙大流感的变种
昨天看那个儿子女婿夹带着死了的妈妈坐摩托回家的视频，整个都不好了。
Source? 要真是这样太可怕了!! Nasal swab检不出来，直接进入肺部，几个小时病情急剧恶化直至死亡，和西班牙流感第二波真是太象了 😥😥
我觉得检测不出来的原因可能是因为PCR的测试子还没有更新好 如果更新了没问题的
至于几个小时病情恶化，我看印度很多视频里面都说已经拉着家人到处求助好几天如何如何， 所以也不是说人人drop dead. 恶化的特别快的肯定是有的，但是过去武汉那时候这样的也屡见不鲜。有的人是血栓，有的人是身体一开始代偿的太厉害所以看不出来问题。
你上哪儿看的突然消失了？西班牙流感病毒就是H1N1. 一直存在啊！每年都还有搞死人。
呵，就跟希望恢复三妻四妾制的男人，其实回到古代，大多数都是娶不上老婆的。现在的疫情，谁知道放开了，自己是survive的 winner还是被淘汰的基因呢！
印度应该请辉瑞直接到印度去做三期。
按川普的叫法，应该叫美国流感，最早发现于密苏里军营，西班牙躺枪啊
我Google一下，竟然是真的印度前线医生的message，竟然不是恶作剧的谣言！😱
这个变种的symptoms 看起来不是一般的恐怖阿？简直像生化危机一样了。美国不禁航还放开口罩，真是不敢想象接下来了
妈呀，印度这是要毁灭世界的节奏了。
都tm得是hard lesson 才能学会
最可怕的是医生说接种过国外疫苗的人里也死了一大半，美国还不赶紧断航啊？！ We have also attended to several patients who traveled into Mumbai from overseas and had received their jabs and ended up contracting the virus and 17 out of 28 have died.
断航没用的，病毒也不坐飞机。而且要在美国爆发的小病毒是不同品种，本来已经在这里，人类没发现而已。
美国和印度其实一样，不到开始死青壮年死富人是不会理会的。不禁航放开口罩，还有一群跃跃欲试马上要去欧洲去各处浪的人带回病毒散播到各地。不知道美国接下来会怎么样。这里还有人叫嚣着让中国也开放国门，那真是会担心死在国内的家人了
病毒不坐飞机什么意思？不是怕携带变种病毒的印度人入境？ 断航为什么没用？
世界流感或者武汉流感？无所谓吧，死亡人数能不能超过1500万要看今年夏天这波和秋冬。明年就结束了.不过这次瘟疫不是世界末日，所以总体还是不可怕的
q其实我觉得真的到了当地 无论是美国还是欧洲 风险都可控
最大的风险就是国际机场 很多国家虽然对高危国家有禁令 但是转机 现在坐飞机的人又多了起来 转机区开始慢慢拥挤起来了 不像原来可以保持距离 真的落地了其实现在好一点的宾馆饭店都非常careful 他们更怕出问题丢生意
印度人往欧洲跑，美国人也往欧洲跑，我看是要热闹了，美国欧洲风险可控？我是没有这么乐观，真出了问题美国欧洲这种自由民主的国家很难控制什么
我们当地认识的印度人，已经知道4家死了父母了。大部分还是50多岁那种，不很老
同不懂，但是现在断航已经晚了，很多印度人已经跑过来了。而且除非欧美步调一致地断航，不然断了印度也会从其他国家输入。去年的美国和新加坡的新冠都是欧洲输入为主。
病毒和人类一样，也要有适合的温度，环境，土壤 。其实美国自己有自己的小病毒，变异之后会爆发，不要紧张印度，巴西，英国等等各种变异。下面还有印尼，人类也预测不到。
印度人进不了欧洲啊
除非有双国籍
印度人有英国国籍的好多啊
现在落地之后强制酒店隔离
之前没隔离的也就没办法了 摊手 🤷♀️
昨天说有三个从印度回来的检测出来印度变种 现在那地方正在到处抓接触者。。。。
就印度这样，给了新药，数据都收集不上来
美国的需要强制隔离吗？
❓你是说，病人上了飞机，身上的病毒会自己跑下来，不会坐飞机🤔️ ，
那么这些病毒是在候机室等主人飞回来呢，还是在飞机下面跑着追随主人。 好魔幻。
不可能了， 以前消失了可能是夏天来了，病毒耐不住高温。 现在是南北半球轮流来，还有空调。
显然没有啊，我怀疑下飞机都不要检测
那有啥用啊，美国不禁航印度也不隔离，然后欧洲也不隔离美国去的。
我对美国禁飞印度不报任何指望了。 我也不指望能集中隔离印度来的人。 只希望能强制核算检测+严格居家隔离14天. 可惜这个估计也只是奢望
你是问美国来英国的么？ 不需要 现在的要求是登机前检测阴性-落地自我隔离并且检测 如果检测阴性可以提前release
英国有个“red list" 这个单子上的国家的被强制隔离 自费 美国不在这个单子上面
希望
语气很象那个神婆啊，id被封的滋味很难受吧？
还12年之后的牛年，呵呵。
知道12年之后地球自转的tilt的是多少度么？
SB！
美国有自己的小病毒，至少现在还没有变异和爆发阿。印度这个已经真实存在了，而且不禁航直接就会带进来，为什么不要紧张印度？还是说你的意思印度的变异病毒只适合生存在印度的高温和肮脏环境下？
英国至少对印度还有落地强制隔离，美国落地后是什么鬼？直接放羊阿
印度为什么不lockdown灾区，然后建方舱？莫迪死哪了？合着印度现在没有任何对应疫情的措施，直接躺倒？
当时封武汉还来得及，现在印度全境都沦陷了，怎么封法啊？ 印度也没有那么强大的中央政府，这作业很难抄啊。
新闻说model 计算出来的峰值是在五月中旬，所以现在还不是最惨的时候。
莫迪今天还在号召人民出来投票呢
会的。至少比其他国家快多了。越拖就是变种越多，疫苗能抗的变种不如疫苗抗不了变种流行地快，所以后者们会成为主流。
所有人口密度高，多代同住的地方和国家都是在积累，只不过速度不一样，达到一定比例才能引发医疗击穿。
我也听了，简直太讽刺了，发言人一个劲儿的说，nobody dies on the street, it is simply not true。主持人愤怒的说, 我们亲眼看见的，还录下来视频了。那个发言人还是坚决否认，简直了。
真是吓着我了，我以为是现在的样子。最后看是以前，还好还好，希望历史不会重演。
我的一个印度同事有两个cousins感染了，其中一个比较严重。不过她说真实情况没有新闻报道的那么严重，而且觉得印度政府已经做的很好了。 另一个印度同事说他的亲戚都没有感染的。 也许新德里和孟买以外的地方情况没有那么糟。
哈，我同事也强调说没有路倒，都是假新闻。
这个，算掩盖吗？其实已经这样了怎么说也无所谓了。 据观察这个病毒从去年到现在，无论哪里爆发都是遵循二三十天就下降的规律。 已经爆成这样，能多救点就多救点人命吧！ 静观其变，看是不是真挺过二三十天，就群体免疫就好了！
阿三就是厚脸皮，能当赖皮 无赖
但是印度旁边都是大炸弹啊 孟加拉国 缅甸 巴基斯坦 随便点燃哪一个 都吃不住。。。
印度学者接受采访，说survey现实实际情况是上报的20-30倍
怎么可能！敞开大门的进。美国这次抗疫真的是太奇葩了。
疫情第一大国对第二大国强制隔离？难兄难弟就一同躺倒吧，555，感觉这次打疫苗的罪是白受了。