美国公司担心中俄渔翁得利,反对放弃mRNA知识产权 - FT

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bigjohn123456
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https://www.ft.com/content/fa1e0d22-71f2-401f-9971-fa27313570ab
Vaccine makers say IP waiver could hand technology to China and Russia Proposal to suspend patent rights comes as poorer countries struggle to obtain Covid doses
Vaccine makers have warned US officials that temporarily scrapping patents for Covid-19 shots would risk handing novel technology to China and Russia, according to people familiar with the talks. 
As industry lobbying has escalated in Washington, companies have warned in private meetings with US trade and White House officials that giving up the intellectual property rights could allow China and Russia to exploit platforms such as mRNA, which could be used for other vaccines or even therapeutics for conditions such as cancer and heart problems in the future.
J&J, Pfizer, Moderna and Novavax did not respond to requests for comment. A measure to allow countries to temporarily override patent rights for pandemic-related medical products was proposed at the World Trade Organization by India and South Africa in October, and has since been backed by almost 60 countries.
While Donald Trump’s administration firmly opposed the waiver at the WTO, along with the UK, EU and Switzerland, US president Joe Biden’s top trade official Katherine Tai has rattled US pharmaceutical companies by appearing to put that position under review. Recommended Covid-19 vaccines Covid-19 vaccine tracker: the global race to vaccinate Tai and her staff have in recent weeks discussed the WTO’s IP rules with pharma companies, trade unions, advocacy groups and Seth Berkley, chief executive of the UN-backed vaccine alliance Gavi. Her office has said the agency was “exploring every avenue” and “evaluating the efficacy” of the waiver.
In a speech to a WTO meeting on vaccine equity earlier this month, Tai said that both the government and the private sector would need to do their part to “live up to” the “spirit” of the Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (Trips) agreement, which was born out of the HIV crisis. “We hope to hear more today about how the market once again has failed in meeting the health needs of developing countries,” Tai told the WTO meeting. “As part of that, we have to consider what modifications and reforms to our trade rules might be necessary to reflect what we have learned.” Her speech has increased tension between pharma companies and the US trade representative (USTR), prompting one vaccine maker to complain to White House officials about Tai’s remarks to the WTO.
The White House did not respond to a request for comment. The USTR said its “top priority” was “saving lives” and that it was “working with our global partners to explore pragmatic and effective steps to surge the production and equitable distribution of vaccines”. The debate at the WTO about whether to temporarily waive intellectual protections comes amid concerns that rich countries are vaccinating their populations significantly faster than developing economies, which have struggled to obtain the required doses.
However, pharmaceutical companies insist they are already doing everything they can to expand production, and that global manufacturing bottlenecks, not patents, are slowing the rate at which vaccines are produced. The battle over IP comes as drugmakers are once again under pressure domestically, as drug pricing reform moves up the Biden administration's agenda. This includes proposals to peg drug prices to those in other industrialised nations, which are usually far cheaper, and allowing Medicare, the pension plan for older people, to negotiate prices.
The Chinese and Russian vaccines use different approaches from mRNA, the technology first deployed in an approved product for a Covid-19 vaccine. Recommended InterviewCovid-19 vaccines Vaccine patent gives US government ‘leverage’ over manufacturers While Russia’s Sputnik showed robust efficacy in a peer-reviewed paper in The Lancet, the head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention appeared to suggest he was concerned about their homegrown jabs not being effective enough, although Chinese state media quickly rolled back the comments. Vaccine makers Pfizer, BioNTech, and Moderna are all hoping to use mRNA in a wide range of other shots and drugs, after it proved so effective in the Covid-19 vaccines.
Albert Bourla, Pfizer’s chief executive, told the Wall Street Journal last month that the technology had “dramatic impact and dramatic potential”. Even so, Biden has come under political pressure to waive Trips and allow developing countries to make their own copies of the vaccines that have been developed by pharmaceutical companies without fear of being sued for IP infringements.
Several Democratic US lawmakers, including Earl Blumenauer, Rosa DeLauro, Jan Schakowsky, Bernie Sanders, Tammy Baldwin and Chuy García, have urged the Biden administration to support a temporary waiver of IP rights. A waiver has also been supported by a group of 175 former world leaders and Nobel laureates, who have urged the US to take “urgent action” to suspend IP. On Friday, the trade group Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch and other advocacy groups said a petition in support of the waiver had been signed by 2m people.
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youyichanzi
这技术有没有可能用于生化武器?
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ll4321
这技术有没有可能用于生化武器?
youyichanzi 发表于 2021-04-25 11:31

当然可能啊,什么都有可能
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pwwq
哈哈哈哈 这还用担心?
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fino819
为啥要放弃?有病吧。支持放弃的慷别人之概的可以帮助出IP费啊,一剂10美元。
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bigjohn123456
国家研究机构手里也有一些关键知识产权,所以美国政府在新冠疫苗IP上是有不少话语权的,这也是为什么有人施压拜登政府
还有篇文章讲到这个.
https://www.ft.com/content/d0c70cc2-0ffa-42dd-b0d0-0f76eeb273f0
The specific US government patent in question — US patent number 10,960,070, better known as the ’070 patent — relates to how the spike protein is stabilised in the vaccine, a technique that was developed by the NIH’s Vaccine Research Center. It is a key component of the mRNA vaccine jointly developed by Moderna and the NIH last year.
Several companies have licensed the ’070 patent for their vaccines and pay the US government royalties, including Germany’s BioNTech, which developed its Covid-19 jab with Pfizer. According to several observers, Moderna has not licensed the patent and the US government has not enforced its rights.
If the US government decides to sue Moderna, Moderna could conceivably owe over $1bn just for its sales through [to] the end of this year --Christopher Morten, New York University
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kathyy
为啥要放弃?难道这两天炒印度变种就是为了这?
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Monkey_baby
good job!別犯傻
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Jadmom
我赞同不放弃,啥都那么高尚,以后谁搞科研,企业不以盈利为目标,很难持续发展的。
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pwwq
美国政府如果还不把这个当作 战略物资来监管, 那就是真的是傻二政府了
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happy3001
哪个国家没钱买疫苗?
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hive
支持不放弃,可以支援疫苗,但核心技术还是要拿在手里
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kathyy
其实真正的穷国,比如非洲这些国家,根本不要专利,有专利自己也制造不出来,人家需要就是造好的疫苗,越容易运输储存越好。 现在天天吼着想欧美放弃专利的,其实是想吃白食,拿着专利生产出来去赚钱去搞疫苗外交
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singingIris
本來就不該放棄專利,需要的給疫苗就好。 尤其像土共負面的這種沾便宜成性還沒感恩心的,就算用了你的專利回頭還會抱怨或者種種.
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playForever
其实真正的穷国,比如非洲这些国家,根本不要专利,有专利自己也制造不出来,人家需要就是造好的疫苗,越容易运输储存越好。 现在天天吼着想欧美放弃专利的,其实是想吃白食,拿着专利生产出来去赚钱去搞疫苗外交
kathyy 发表于 2021-04-25 11:54

不仅仅是搞疫苗外交。还 TMD 在各大电视台上整天给民众洗脑,美帝 亡我之心不死。


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whatafool
没理由放弃专利
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ca563
本來就不該放棄專利,需要的給疫苗就好。 尤其像土共負面的這種沾便宜成性還沒感恩心的,就算用了你的專利回頭還會抱怨或者種種.
singingIris 发表于 2021-04-25 11:56

这楼里这么多看不懂英文的吗?
A measure to allow countries to temporarily override patent rights for pandemic-related medical products was proposed at the World Trade Organization by India and South Africa in October, and has since been backed by almost 60 countries.
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Rutang48
辉瑞CEO说过卖给穷国的都只是成本价根本没打算赚钱。生物制药工艺那么复杂,既使拿到专利也不一定能生产一模一样质量的疫苗。到时万一出事了又说这技术是垃圾。
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ayiya
mRNA技术开始的研究不是为了疫苗,是为其它药物尤其是癌症药物的。公开了以后让人家公司多年的研究投入都打水飘?弯道超车那一套又来了。
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kathyy
这楼里这么多看不懂英文的吗?
A measure to allow countries to temporarily override patent rights for pandemic-related medical products was proposed at the World Trade Organization by India and South Africa in October, and has since been backed by almost 60 countries.
ca563 发表于 2021-04-25 12:05


你再看看wto 躲在背后把别人当枪使 一向是某大国的传统
放弃专利 公开技术 多么熟悉的配方
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justwatching
让印度非洲冲在前面起头,土工和老毛在后面乘机扇阴风
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Rutang48
mRNA技术的主要潜力是在癌症治疗方面。疫情总会过去但随着人类寿命增长,攻克癌症是面临的最大难题。怎能把专利放弃。
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bigjohn123456

你再看看wto 躲在背后把别人当枪使 一向是某大国的传统
放弃专利 公开技术 多么熟悉的配方
kathyy 发表于 2021-04-25 12:09

关键是美国公司不担心印度南非弯道超车,只担心中俄把东西学去了,算不算意识形态挂帅,亡我之心不死?
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ca563

你再看看wto 躲在背后把别人当枪使 一向是某大国的传统
放弃专利 公开技术 多么熟悉的配方
kathyy 发表于 2021-04-25 12:09

换个国家还有人信,中国能忽悠得动印度?印度连中国的氧气都拒绝要呢
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kathyy
换个国家还有人信,中国能忽悠得动印度?印度连中国的氧气都拒绝要呢
ca563 发表于 2021-04-25 12:13

南非呢?你怎么就忽略了南非
印度自己也是仿制药大国 里面当然也有利益
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iloveflower
其实真正的穷国,比如非洲这些国家,根本不要专利,有专利自己也制造不出来,人家需要就是造好的疫苗,越容易运输储存越好。 现在天天吼着想欧美放弃专利的,其实是想吃白食,拿着专利生产出来去赚钱去搞疫苗外交
kathyy 发表于 2021-04-25 11:54

美国确实不应该放弃专利!支持美国保护自己的权益!
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youyichanzi
这楼里这么多看不懂英文的吗?
A measure to allow countries to temporarily override patent rights for pandemic-related medical products was proposed at the World Trade Organization by India and South Africa in October, and has since been backed by almost 60 countries.
ca563 发表于 2021-04-25 12:05

咦,你断章取义还质疑别人的阅读能力?
就好像一群叫花子,其中一个叫花子a跟地主说,你看我们这么穷,你家的地无偿给我们大家种吧。但是大家都知道叫花子c人品不好,很可能用那地种罂粟,卖毒品挣大钱,然后再把别的叫花子的地都买了。
然后你说,你看这事实叫花子a的主意,大家总盯着c干嘛?
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Melaniejj9991
凭什么放弃?放弃了又有什么用处?毕竟绝大多数穷国拿到专利也生产不了。有能力生产的可以和美国合作啊,各方面优惠就好。 不大懂要求放弃专利的逻辑
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bigjohn123456
盯着mRNA疫苗的知识产权确实莫名其妙, 穷国最需要的是能大量生产方便运输的AZ, JJ, 俄国斯普尼克疫苗etc. WHO支援穷国的疫苗也是有欧美日本买单穷国不用付钱的。
而且美国情报部门挖出这次全世界黑mRNA疫苗的主力是俄国,想必俄国也不会眼馋mRNA技术, 中国嘛一直担心这个不安全,会面瘫,中国有更安全的技术有P3实验室(高福语),应该也不会眼馋这个疫苗。
所以到底是哪里出了问题?
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hellensiao
关键是美国公司不担心印度南非弯道超车,只担心中俄把东西学去了,算不算意识形态挂帅,亡我之心不死?
bigjohn123456 发表于 2021-04-25 12:12

这很难理解吗?跟朋友可以分享,跟敌人要划清界线。你把人家往死里骂,转过头来骂人家不把你当朋友给你分享自己的好东西,这难道不是精分?