If you leave the United States Leaving the United States means leaving the 50 states, the District of Columbia, or the Northern Mariana Islands. Usually, if you leave the United States for 30 days or more, you can no longer get SSI. If you move to Puerto Rico, you’re considered to be outside the United States for SSI purposes only. People who live in Puerto Rico can’t get SSI. If you plan to leave the United States, tell us before you leave. We need to know the date you plan to leave and the date you plan to come back. Then, we can tell you if your SSI will be affected. After you have been outside the United States for 30 or more days in a row, your SSI can’t start again until you have been back in the country for at least 30 straight days. There are special rules for dependent children of military personnel who leave the United States. They may be able to get or apply for SSI while overseas. There are also exceptions for students studying abroad.
If you are a U.S. citizen who qualifies for retirement, disability, or survivors benefits, you can generally collect them while living outside the U.S. However, benefit payments cannot be made to recipients living in certain countries, such as Cuba and North Korea.
If your immigration status changes Let us know if your immigration status changes. Your immigration status may affect whether you can get SSI. In general, if you become a U.S. citizen, you still can get SSI as long as you meet the other SSI requirements. For more information, read Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for Noncitizens (Publication No. 05-11051).
The United States Social Security Administration (SSA) administers both the Social Security disability program and the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program. Both programs are intended to provide financial assistance to disabled, blind or aged individuals. While recipients may leave the country for an extended period – and still qualify to receive monthly Social Security disability benefits – recipients of SSI benefits become ineligible after they have been outside of the country for more than 30 consecutive days in most cases. SSN 和SSI是两回事
The United States Social Security Administration (SSA) administers both the Social Security disability program and the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program. Both programs are intended to provide financial assistance to disabled, blind or aged individuals. While recipients may leave the country for an extended period – and still qualify to receive monthly Social Security disability benefits – recipients of SSI benefits become ineligible after they have been outside of the country for more than 30 consecutive days in most cases. SSN 和SSI是两回事 esprit88 发表于 2021-04-19 22:12
If you leave the United States Leaving the United States means leaving the 50 states, the District of Columbia, or the Northern Mariana Islands. Usually, if you leave the United States for 30 days or more, you can no longer get SSI. If you move to Puerto Rico, you’re considered to be outside the United States for SSI purposes only. People who live in Puerto Rico can’t get SSI. If you plan to leave the United States, tell us before you leave. We need to know the date you plan to leave and the date you plan to come back. Then, we can tell you if your SSI will be affected. After you have been outside the United States for 30 or more days in a row, your SSI can’t start again until you have been back in the country for at least 30 straight days. There are special rules for dependent children of military personnel who leave the United States. They may be able to get or apply for SSI while overseas. There are also exceptions for students studying abroad. afamilyman 发表于 2021-04-19 22:00
The United States Social Security Administration (SSA) administers both the Social Security disability program and the Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program. Both programs are intended to provide financial assistance to disabled, blind or aged individuals. While recipients may leave the country for an extended period – and still qualify to receive monthly Social Security disability benefits – recipients of SSI benefits become ineligible after they have been outside of the country for more than 30 consecutive days in most cases. SSN 和SSI是两回事 esprit88 发表于 2021-04-19 22:12
Ssn = social security number. ssi = supplemental security income. ss= social security = social security benefits = social security payments.
https://www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/questions-answers/collecting-social-security-abroad.html
SSN 和SSI是两回事
我错了，你说的对。又看了一下，的确是公民可以，绿卡必须保持身份才可以。
那就是说只要保持绿卡身份就可以领取SS。可以在别的国家住半年，美国住半年。
SSI不一样。Need based。
这个文件第11页(foot note page 7) https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10137.pdf 快捷Link https://www.ssa.gov/international/countrylist4.htm
更复杂的Code在这里 律师可能比较会读这种： https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/404/404-0460.htm
mark
这意思是出国旅游30天都不行？
多谢！
Ssn = social security number.
ssi = supplemental security income.
ss= social security = social security benefits = social security payments.
老中的小聪明又来了。为什么不入籍为华人投票做贡献呢？改善华人地位人人有责，更何况你在美国生活
绿卡也能，即使放弃绿卡晚年到中国居住，但是85%退休金是打7折拿。 理论上是有40个点，没有绿卡都可以拿ss。
只要不是定居在古巴或朝鲜，即使长期在海外居住，都可以要求政府，按月将退休金寄到国外的地址;如果银行账户设在香港或日本，政府更可以将退休金，以自动转账方式送到户口内，但设在其他亚洲国家的银行账户则不能自动转账。也就是说，如果您是美国公民，长期离境并不会对您的养老金领取带来影响。但请注意，养老金银行自动转账需符合一定条件，具体可咨询美国相关机构。
2. 美国绿卡持有者： 退休后长期（超过6个月）回国地定居，即使失去了绿卡，也可以继续领取退休金。不过，需要将85%的退休金，抽出30%来缴付联邦税。如果居住在与美国签有税收契约的10个国家内，就不必付联邦税，这10个国家是：加拿大、埃及、德国、爱尔兰、以色列、意大利、日本、罗马尼亚、瑞士、英国。 中国公民，在美国获得领取退休金所需要的40个季点(Credits)，或在美国居住了十年并获得领取退休金所需要的工作季点以后(1929年或以前出生者，只要获得出生年份加上11的工作季点，就符合领取退休金的资格。比如说，1928年出生者，只需要39个季点)，如果选择回原居地定居，不管居住的时间多长，都可以收到美国社安局寄去的退休金。 另外，夫妇两人当中一人有资格领取退休金，而夫妇两人在美国共同居住达5年，在有资格领取退休金的配偶去世以后，仍然生存的配偶及18岁以下的子女，都可以在原居地继续领到美国社安局寄去的遗属福利金。
你给的钱变成平均三十五年的月薪乘以90%（如果多过1000上面的部分递减）。 如果你给每月1000，十年，大概是285乘以0。9，就是$257。
啊？我每年就开了$6000，看起来开的太少了。 我以为交够40个点有最低额的。 多谢MM！
这部分没有最低额。所以Nomed电影里面，老太太只有五百快不够花。不过如果收入只有这么低，可能可以申请一些补助，要看那个州的法律来定。
谢谢MM，我从今年起多开。
如果你母親退休後還是住在美國 可以申請SSI 這是給低收入的貧窮補助 目前 一個人每月可領八九百吧 只要是SS低於SSI 都可以拿到最低的補助
我不是很確定 SSI是不是需要一定要四十季點和公民身分 但是絕對不能離境三十天以上
现在的SSI没有那么多了。要不然Nomed老太太也不用到处跑了。SSI现在是需要公民身份。
K
开10年平均每年$42k, 可以在67岁开始拿约＄900一个月，如果62岁开始拿约$630一个月。都是按现在的钱算的。
所以要拿满40点至少要工作10年。
所以中国公民领了以后需要给85%的退休金交30%的税？剩下15%呢？还交税吗？
nomad
说的是预先扣税，如果你报税还有可能拿回来退税
美国一千多万gc holder 都是老中?
谢谢MM。
应该不用。
那是什么身份
mark mark
但有些人没有给社会服务过，或者是收现金，未报税的，没有social security statement，按理说是没资格拿退休金的。可是对于没有资产也没收入的穷人，如果残疾或超过65岁，可以申请SSI。 SSI申请者必须美国公民，绿卡不行，穷到不光没有收入并且固定资产也少得可怜的，才能被批准。SSI算是公众负担，只是发给穷人的，大约每月700/人或1100／couple。一旦离开美国本土超过30天SSI就被取消了，也许可以重新申请，但不是理所当然的。也就是说SSI发出给未对社会做出贡献的disabled／aged穷公民的钱，是限制必须在美国本土消费的。
当然这些都算是收入是要报税的。如果social security income是唯一收入，那么其实比standard deduction多不了多少，比如2020 form 1040:一个人13850两口子25700以下税为零。所以退休群体只靠social security没有401k IRA等其它收入的，一定是低收入，基本上没多少税。
“需要将85%的退休金，抽出30%来缴付联邦税” 这个有原文出处吗？谢谢。