好奇在美国的印度人也受歧视吗?

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joncc
楼主 (北美华人网)
印度人也是外国人,大多数印度人跟黑哥颜色差不多!理论上应该也被大大的歧视呀!可是很多公司的高管却是印度人,而且我发现印度人,以色列人可以直接来美国当CEO

 

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sindylee
110 楼
别的不说,印度菜味道那么大美国人觉得没事,中国菜稍微那啥一点美国人就受不了。。。
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chris009
109 楼
印度人也是外国人,大多数印度人跟黑哥颜色差不多!理论上应该也被大大的歧视呀!可是很多公司的高管却是印度人,而且我发现印度人,以色列人可以直接来美国当CEO
joncc 发表于 2021-03-19 16:15

硬度人是白人
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izz
108 楼
人家母国是美国盟国。
薛定谔的猫屎
107 楼
比如东欧的,荷兰的 ,包括我一个第一代移民的 匈牙利的妈妈都说过会被多多少少“冷落”和歧视过----但是他们遭遇的所谓歧视更多类似于国内的歧视外地农村来的务工者,更多是自我显摆自我感觉良好的心理优势罢了。但是这次对亚洲人的歧视更多的是种族灭杀性质的--是类似德国法西斯对犹太人的屠杀,虽然规模没有那么惨烈,但是现实如今当下,现实里政府以及警局层面,和生活大环境里允许这样的8人屠杀以及别的针对亚裔的犯罪,就是妥妥的种族仇杀和灭绝,而不仅仅是类似于“城里人对乡下人”的心理优势感了,是肉体上要灭绝你。
GuoXindai 发表于 2021-03-20 11:16

就是,国内是看不起农民工,只是鄙视、看不起,但是谁会走在街上无缘无故骂农名工、向农民工捅刀子、扔东西?现在已经不仅仅是歧视这么简单了,是昂格鲁vs汉民族,是种族仇恨。影响类比的话,有点像昆明火车站那种,民族之间的仇恨。
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Linwuduck
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回复 87楼Biden的帖子
这是妥妥的歧视啊

 

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Pelosi

总体 来说, 比亚洲男生好些.
印度和中东男生很受 白人大妈们的欢迎.

相比东亚男生, 白人大妈更喜欢印度中东男生.
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cistim
好很多的,毕竟英语。很多人长的也偏欧不偏东亚。
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skyline2020
印度人不像中国人儒家思想凡事都能忍,印度人的人生信条是不要脸皮的争。
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sherpa
印度人自己认为自己是欧洲人种。
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Pelosi
印度人也是外国人,大多数印度人跟黑哥颜色差不多!理论上应该也被大大的歧视呀!可是很多公司的高管却是印度人,而且我发现印度人,以色列人可以直接来美国当CEO
joncc 发表于 2021-03-19 16:15


印度人不是黑人.
印度人和中东人的祖先都是南欧人,
到了气候恶劣的亚洲, 皮肤变的又黑又粗.
亚洲的气候极其恶劣.
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eatsilver
穆斯林也没怎么受歧视
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badgerbadger
其实也受歧视,你去Twitter看,也有很多白人想要他们”Go back to India”的。
对于白人来说,在疫情之前、贸易战之前,大多数人对华人的态度其实跟对印度人差不多:跟防贼一样防着中印移民跟自己抢工作。
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happyeating
没有共产主义原罪,母国有民主光环,英语说的溜,被英国殖民过,深谙与白人的相处之道。印度锡克族有被误当成穆斯林袭击过的。
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eatsilver
东亚裔最受歧视,不论是越南日本中国。原因如下:
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Pelosi
印度人自己认为自己是欧洲人种。
sherpa 发表于 2021-03-19 16:19


印度人和中东人的基因更接近南欧人.
亚洲的气候极其恶劣极端, 所以导致了白种人到了亚洲, 皮肤变的又黑又粗.

而白人到了英国, 爱尔兰, 西欧的气候温和湿润, 产生了蓝色的眼睛.
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Pelosi
穆斯林也没怎么受歧视
eatsilver 发表于 2021-03-19 16:19

穆斯林主要看长的.
如果长的很帅的话, 特别是有的叙利亚男生长的比较帅,
甚至可以在德国当色情明星.
我们仨
气味歧视吧,听到一堆同事在讨论building的一层根本进不了人…
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Jaelynleaf
当然,但是,人家在国内已经习惯了 掌握了生存之道 更何况多年的英联邦殖民, 社交规则说话方式,拍马寒暄算半个熟人 比我们这些所谓尖子不谙世事的起步早多了
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Pelosi
气味歧视吧,听到一堆同事在讨论building的一层根本进不了人…
我们仨 发表于 2021-03-19 16:22


没办法, 亚洲的气候实在太恶劣了.
人类起源非洲,
非洲人到了西欧变为白人,
到了亚洲就变的黄黄的黑黑的了.
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keaidedabaicai
印度这个国家弱,西方人不把印度人视作威胁
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littleceleb
我认识的印度人至少有3个和我说过被歧视的故事,红蓝州都有
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cistim
印度人不像中国人儒家思想凡事都能忍,印度人的人生信条是不要脸皮的争。
skyline2020 发表于 2021-03-19 16:18

印度人这些信条来自哪?
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badgerbadger
印度这个国家弱,西方人不把印度人视作威胁
keaidedabaicai 发表于 2021-03-19 16:23

不,他们也觉得印度人会抢自己工作,口吻和说中国人的如出一辙。甚至中国人印度人在他们句子里经常是被并排使用的
公用马甲6
有的,以前在学校的时候印度人扎堆的对方被叫做“brown town”。但印度人在公司里混得非常好,又抱团,话语权越来越多
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Pelosi
印度这个国家弱,西方人不把印度人视作威胁
keaidedabaicai 发表于 2021-03-19 16:23


印度的大米 在西方国家 很有名气.
欧美各大超级市场 都有印度大米.

而中国大米比较差, 不如印度大米.

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sherpa

没办法, 亚洲的气候实在太恶劣了.
人类起源非洲,
非洲人到了西欧变为白人,
到了亚洲就变的黄黄的黑黑的了.

Pelosi 发表于 2021-03-19 16:22

Can you please shut up and stop the nonsense?
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Jaelynleaf
印度人也是外国人,大多数印度人跟黑哥颜色差不多!理论上应该也被大大的歧视呀!可是很多公司的高管却是印度人,而且我发现印度人,以色列人可以直接来美国当CEO
joncc 发表于 2021-03-19 16:15

直接来美国做高管的 要么本身家族厚,要么有英裔血统吧? 印度贵族生活和西方有钱人类似的很
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zhuzhu08
雅利安人种,征服了古印度,这是种姓制度的由来
印度人的五官更像欧洲人
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Pelosi
雅利安人种,征服了古印度,这是种姓制度的由来
zhuzhu08 发表于 2021-03-19 16:25


就是皮肤真黑啊!!
印度的气候真是可怕!!!
中国, 印度 --- 2个最极端的气候!!! 一个黄不拉几, 一个黑不拉几.

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biyuntian
回复 1楼joncc的帖子
有,我们不怎么知道关心。 我以前一个学生说美国人对中国人比印度人好。因为印度人都是白人眼中异教徒,中国人没有宗教,是可以改变的对象。不知是否真的。 另一个同学印度人是素食者,被各种人嘲笑。
我们仨
想起一个abi给我们讲的,他去whole foods门口接他女朋友,女朋友金发碧眼,然后一个警察给他说Uber不能在门口接客😄他气疯了
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zhuzhu08
其实雅利安人也曾入侵中国,妇好曾带领商军和他们作战,在妇好的墓里,有类白种人骨骸,估计是战俘
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daremighty
叫dot head, 公司里混的好是因为被犹太人和WASP相中,红波占多数的Baptist 对有色人种都歧视,3K党后代, 和老川他爸一样。布什家就是典型的WASP,不会搞明目张胆歧视,都是闷声发大财的

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white09
当然有,任何族的都有被歧视过


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cistim
想起一个abi给我们讲的,他去whole foods门口接他女朋友,女朋友金发碧眼,然后一个警察给他说Uber不能在门口接客😄他气疯了
我们仨 发表于 2021-03-19 16:28

一点笑不出来。
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amyfair
前几年不是也出过红脖把两个老印误当成穆斯林给当众枪杀了的事儿嘛
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Acad
其实也被歧视,但印度人抱团,会见风使舵,比老中混的好
圆棱角
一样受歧视
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pineappletin
有被歧视的……有白人在我面前说过印度人坏话……印度人境遇比中国人好主要是他们报团
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Cybercat
楼主难道生活中不认识任何印度人?媒体上固化印象印度人的也上过新闻,比如模仿印度口音的,比如说印度人都是开加油站7-11的。 另外用手吃饭上厕所被人嘲笑的也常见。 印度人当然也被歧视。我们公司一个大老板就曾经公然开锡克同事包头的玩笑。那是几年前,风气还跟现在不一样。要是放现在我估计那个大老板立马会被弄辞职。
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kissyingying
我以前住的社区。有个印度邻居,看到白女遛的狗在别人草坪上大便完了就走,就指出不能这样,要清理干净。然后白女就骂他go back to india。 后来他把这事贴在我们小区讨论群里。然后就有邻居发言: 我有一个good idea。不如每个邻居都在门口准备垃圾袋,方便那些遛狗的人。。。
几年之后。旧金山满地针头,然后政客就有一个good idea。不如设立专门毒品站,方便那些吸毒的人。。。 异曲同工啊
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cistim
一样受歧视
圆棱角 发表于 2021-03-19 16:44

那么谁不受歧视呢。
张国荣
川粉真没文化。看看Ann coutler 的书,trump 上台之前就公开歧视老印了。
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dodgers
大数据说,白人歧视印度人比歧视东亚裔还要厉害,但是印度人牛,把局势扭转过来,反倒占了各个位置。
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palapara
印度人speak up。我朋友手下有个印度小哥, 做活儿特别差, 但是每到年底都具以力争,说自己应该涨工资,应该升职。
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tigerleihm

印度的大米 在西方国家 很有名气.
欧美各大超级市场 都有印度大米.

而中国大米比较差, 不如印度大米.


Pelosi 发表于 2021-03-19 16:24

对,你从小就是吃印度米长大的
兔子过敏
也歧视。
我认识一个印度裔美女,她说她女儿小的时候,她在外面溜女儿,被人问是不是保姆。我都傻了。她女儿长的跟她就像一个模子里印出来的。只是比她白些。还有很多别的故事,也没有过特别严重造成人身伤害的,但是这里一下,那里一下,就很膈应人。
那些白人至上的,看的就是肤色。别说什么英语不好才歧视。你看看川总的第三任老婆,连简单英语都说不利索,还“be best”,但也不耽误川粉跪舔。
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sharkliz
law school读书时班里有个包头的锡克族,那个人没朋友
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Pelosi
也歧视。
我认识一个印度裔美女,她说她女儿小的时候,她在外面溜女儿,被人问是不是保姆。我都傻了。她女儿长的跟她就像一个模子里印出来的。只是比她白些。还有很多别的故事,也没有过特别严重造成人身伤害的,但是这里一下,那里一下,就很膈应人。
那些白人至上的,看的就是肤色。别说什么英语不好才歧视。你看看川总的第三任老婆,连简单英语都说不利索,还“be best”,但也不耽误川粉跪舔。
兔子过敏 发表于 2021-03-19 17:09

川普喜欢东欧美女啊
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Meimei558
印度曾经沧海是英联邦的,跟新澳一样,虽然皮肤黑,曾经算白人
呼呼猫
印度人speak up。我朋友手下有个印度小哥, 做活儿特别差, 但是每到年底都具以力争,说自己应该涨工资,应该升职。
palapara 发表于 2021-03-19 16:59

“I've personally been told that, ‘Go back to where you came from,’” Harris said at the event. “I'm going to tell you what my mother told me: Don't you ever let anyone tell you who you are. You tell them who you are.”
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damulvv
回复 47楼呼呼猫的帖子
到底是副总统!
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momo2008
想起一个abi给我们讲的,他去whole foods门口接他女朋友,女朋友金发碧眼,然后一个警察给他说Uber不能在门口接客😄他气疯了
我们仨 发表于 2021-03-19 16:28

天啊 你这个竟然把我看笑了:)
雨前特级
歧视根本不会消失,你们看到特别肥胖的白人不歧视吗?
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calrose
歧视根本不会消失,你们看到特别肥胖的白人不歧视吗?
雨前特级 发表于 2021-03-19 17:56

你说的是心里暗戳戳的歧视,这真的没办法解决,但明目张胆的搞歧视应该被禁止!
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oniongoat
有的,被喊curry
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miaoerl
怎么可能不被歧视,我去超市,两白人店员在我面前讨论,现在印度人那么多,烦死了,一脸的嫌弃。 不知道他们是否能区分印度人和中国人?
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Akin
很好奇他们的圈子流行晒收入吗……
焱焱
来美国这么多年,历次反移民事件,看到过反穆斯林,反墨西哥人,这次轮到反模范移民的亚裔了,具体说是反华人其它亚裔属于误伤,印度人只有一次在反穆斯林高潮中有个缠红头巾的锡克族被当穆斯林爆头了,和这次非华人遭袭击一样。
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nevergetlost
亚裔之间都有歧视,更不要说其他族裔对亚裔了,搞不好白人之间尤其欧洲人之间也地域歧视
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hiromice
回复 54楼Akin的帖子
lol I will find out for you, I have quite a few close indian friends
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dodgers
亚裔之间都有歧视,更不要说其他族裔对亚裔了,搞不好白人之间尤其欧洲人之间也地域歧视
nevergetlost 发表于 2021-03-19 20:04

这个都不知道?西欧白人移民100年前歧视意大利移民,西班牙移民,东欧移民,爱尔兰移民。1920左右的移民法,把意大利移民配额砍了90%.
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VozProgresiva
也歧视。
我认识一个印度裔美女,她说她女儿小的时候,她在外面溜女儿,被人问是不是保姆。我都傻了。她女儿长的跟她就像一个模子里印出来的。只是比她白些。还有很多别的故事,也没有过特别严重造成人身伤害的,但是这里一下,那里一下,就很膈应人。
那些白人至上的,看的就是肤色。别说什么英语不好才歧视。你看看川总的第三任老婆,连简单英语都说不利索,还“be best”,但也不耽误川粉跪舔。
兔子过敏 发表于 2021-03-19 17:09

川粉简直把这个花瓶捧成了圣母, 不像是川普这样的鼠辈, 但是, 历任第一夫人中,学识基本可以敬陪末座了
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durkin
来美国这么多年,历次反移民事件,看到过反穆斯林,反墨西哥人,这次轮到反模范移民的亚裔了,具体说是反华人其它亚裔属于误伤,印度人只有一次在反穆斯林高潮中有个缠红头巾的锡克族被当穆斯林爆头了,和这次非华人遭袭击一样。
焱焱 发表于 2021-03-19 19:28

不止,2017年kansas city俩印度人被一个白人枪杀了,枪手喊着“get out of my country”。然后其中一个H1B的遗孀立刻out of status并面临deport,印象中当地人还帮着请愿来着。
刚查了下她后来2018年自己拿到了H1B。
南京菜农
您这话我还真不能够同意。众所周知,硅谷码农这个群体里面,大陆来的华人每天都能把印度来的阿三玩弄于股掌之上,不管在哪个层面。 虽然没有阿三那么卑鄙猥琐,华人凭借聪明的头脑和雄辩的口才,从车库到几个字母缩写的高级公司,全方位的掌控硅谷的一切,从技术到热钱。
南京菜农
当然了,有一点我不否认,白皮阿三,特别是孩子,穿奢侈品还是和谐的。主要是在他们看来,奢侈品和开市多的东西差不多廉价。~~
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luohash
回复 51楼VozProgresiva的帖子
前任第一夫人,不仅英语说不利索
老爸还曾是共产党员,当过工厂党委书记
照样被当神一样捧着
南京菜农
犹太人和意大利人这块儿,我觉得也不是不能攻破堡垒。大致有两个技术路线,就看硅谷码农群体愿不愿意受累,毕竟每天盘算几个账户,再看看房产中介报价,都累得晚上睡不着。 1 外发,发男发女都可以,这个最快速有效。 2 凭借码农雄厚的资本和 fintech 创新,占领芝加哥和华尔街。
红河谷
觉得印度人更受歧视,但人家该干什么干什么,据理力争!
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rime
911后,印度人被袭击也不少。。。
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ssc
印度人不像中国人儒家思想凡事都能忍,印度人的人生信条是不要脸皮的争。
skyline2020 发表于 2021-03-19 16:18

你不要脸皮的争一个我看看,是人生开挂的节奏吗?
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ssc
印度这个国家弱,西方人不把印度人视作威胁
keaidedabaicai 发表于 2021-03-19 16:23

印度对民主制度没有威胁,不是因为他弱。不要这里带节奏。
奶油小白菜
怎么可能不被歧视,我去超市,两白人店员在我面前讨论,现在印度人那么多,烦死了,一脸的嫌弃。 不知道他们是否能区分印度人和中国人?
miaoerl 发表于 2021-03-19 19:05

当然可以区分,我听到一个白女跟我同事讲她去哪里visit,员工大部分是印度人,smells like curry
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印度的意识形态和西方是一样的,不管咋说印度是民主国家。印度总统莫迪访美对印裔同胞的喊话是:你们生活在美国就爱这个国家,把美国建设好...这话没毛病,一个民族的后代子孙生活在哪里爱哪里,把它建设好是正常的价值观。再看我们的国人同胞,天天喊话我们恨美帝。 你说哪个更受歧视?
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dllzf
歧视根本不会消失,你们看到特别肥胖的白人不歧视吗?
雨前特级 发表于 2021-03-19 17:56

这能一样吗!!!! 一个是不能选择的,一个是自己不注意吃出来的!!!!
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lianqiao
我觉得也受歧视的。我的好朋友是一个印度人,她很有才华,但也不受重视
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wujieling
当然有歧视了,你随便问问你的印度朋友就知道了。
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seaworthy
我问过印度同事,回答是没有被歧视过
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xrxr
为啥我还挺喜欢一些印度小哥的,都笑眯眯的,好有礼貌。尤其是一些二代,人挺好的呀。
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印度人很爱聊天,给人感觉很warm, 而且也经常邀请同事,家庭布置也很精致讲究。
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hiromice
我觉得我身边的烙印真的不错,有啥说啥,还很caring,男的女的都挺合得来的,而且他们会和我一起说白人坏话,哈哈,很爽的。我挺喜欢印度菜的,还学点他们recipe.
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xrxr
我还没date过印度小哥呢,蛮好奇的~
薛定谔的猫屎
感觉在美国混的好的印度人很多都是那些印度人里面比较白的,很多长得跟白人没什么两样。他们高种姓的人长相和打扮都很像白人了。但是那种黝黑黝黑的老印,平时也没有什么人带他们玩的
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Linwuduck
来美二十多年,没觉得有什么歧视,倒是在国内随父母下放到小地方,然后去大城市读大学受的歧视不少。美国枪击案一年不少,死在枪下的白人、黑人比亚州人多多了。
清月随风
这还有什么疑问,印度人当然不会受歧视了,因为川总从来没有说过印度病毒,而且每次见到莫迪就大大的拥抱!如果到现在还不明白亚裔为什么受歧视,还去猜测,也未免太愚钝了吧。
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Linwuduck
印度裔也是亚裔吧,而且皮肤比中国人黑多了。
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回复 74楼Linwuduck的帖子
填表格时候的Asian 跟走在路上,美国人眼中的亚裔,是不一样的 Asian指的就是东亚裔

清月随风
印度裔也是亚裔吧,而且皮肤比中国人黑多了。
Linwuduck 发表于 2021-03-19 23:55

黑人欺负的是亚裔,但痛恨的是中国人,印度人虽然也是亚裔,但体格健壮、英文又好、反应敏捷,黑人冲他们下手有很大的困难。
距离拥抱被
有啊,12年,威斯康星的印度 锡客族庙被没脑子的白人枪手当穆斯林庙闯进去开枪屠杀 你难以想象白人至上主义者脑子回路
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singsu
黑人欺负的是亚裔,但痛恨的是中国人,印度人虽然也是亚裔,但体格健壮、英文又好、反应敏捷,黑人冲他们下手有很大的困难。
清月随风 发表于 2021-03-20 00:02

印度人很多吃素,不可能很健壮
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momo2008
歧视根本不会消失,你们看到特别肥胖的白人不歧视吗?
雨前特级 发表于 2021-03-19 17:56

就算你再暗戳戳心里看不起胖子你也不会照着人家当脸来一拳吧。美国的种族主义是种族仇恨,是要从肉体上消灭对方的那种恶。
香依
以前我家右边的邻居就是老印,带娃去他们家玩时,女主人跟我抱怨过好多次后院和前院对门两家白人都歧视他们,他们很气愤。前门的说他们印度人抢了美国人的工作,叫他们离远点。后门的更糟,经常让自家狗去她家院子便便,有次还差点咬到她女儿,他们上门说理,那家人也爱理不理。我那时刚来美国不久,没了解过这类事,所以听她说了这些还挺震惊的,后来就对那两家邻居敬而远之了。这个老印家是属于肤色挺黑的那种,为人相对老实那种。几年后卖了房子回国去了,可能他们在美国呆得也不开心吧。
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也歧视。
我认识一个印度裔美女,她说她女儿小的时候,她在外面溜女儿,被人问是不是保姆。我都傻了。她女儿长的跟她就像一个模子里印出来的。只是比她白些。还有很多别的故事,也没有过特别严重造成人身伤害的,但是这里一下,那里一下,就很膈应人。
那些白人至上的,看的就是肤色。别说什么英语不好才歧视。你看看川总的第三任老婆,连简单英语都说不利索,还“be best”,但也不耽误川粉跪舔。
兔子过敏 发表于 2021-03-19 17:09

我亲耳听到工业界白男背后歧视印度裔女性同行(该女应该是生在美国或者很小很小来的,该白男都承认她没有口音)。
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其实美国的移民史就是一步互相歧视的历史,开始爱尔兰人,意大利人,德国人来的时候一样被歧视的厉害。爱尔兰人穷,意大利人跟老中类似,一大家子住一起,挣了钱就往老家寄,还不入籍想着挣够了钱回意大利。德国人移民到美国来的也是一帮子穷人,只是他们到美国比较早,慢慢都站稳了脚跟。非裔美国人的话题太敏感不能提。东亚裔老中是早期来的大多数是苦力,排华法案又被整了好几十年,那阵子说是连结婚都找不到媳妇。日裔是二战时被整了一把集中营,犹太人其实也被白人的犹太歧视,Michael Douglas我记得看过一篇文章讲他带着儿子出去玩,儿子去游泳池带着大卫星,被白人给骂回来了,连这种名人外加富人也是一样受到各种歧视和仇恨,更不要提少数族裔底层的各种遭遇,作为亚裔只能是去学会怎么应对这种挑战。

Last summer our family went to Southern Europe on holiday. During our stay at a hotel, our son Dylan went to the swimming pool. A short time later he came running back to the room, upset. A man at the pool had started hurling insults at him. My first instinct was to ask, "Were you misbehaving?" Last summer our family went to Southern Europe on holiday. During our stay at a hotel, our son Dylan went to the swimming pool. A short time later he came running back to the room, upset. A man at the pool had started hurling insults at him. My first instinct was to ask, "Were you misbehaving?" "No," Dylan told me through his tears. I stared at him. And suddenly I had an awful realization of what might have caused the man''s outrage: Dylan was wearing a Star of David. After calming him down, I went to the pool and asked the attendants to point out the man who had yelled at him. We talked. It was not a pleasant discussion. Afterward, I sat down with my son and said: "Dylan, you just had your first taste of anti-Semitism." My father, Kirk Douglas, born Issur Danielovitch, is Jewish. My mother, Diana, is not. I had no formal religious upbringing from either of them, and the two kids I have with Catherine Zeta-Jones are like me, growing up with one parent who is Jewish and one who is not. Several years ago Dylan, through his friends, developed a deep connection to Judaism, and when he started going to Hebrew school and studying for his bar mitzvah, I began to reconnect with the religion of my father. While some Jews believe that not having a Jewish mother makes me not Jewish, I have learned the hard way that those who hate do not make such fine distinctions. Dylan''s experience reminded me of my first encounter with anti-Semitism, in high school. A friend saw someone Jewish walk by, and with no provocation he confidently told me: "Michael, all Jews cheat in business." "What are you talking about?" I said. "Michael, come on," he replied. "Everyone knows that." With little knowledge of what it meant to be a Jew, I found myself passionately defending the Jewish people. Now, half a century later, I have to defend my son. Anti-Semitism, I''ve seen, is like a disease that goes dormant, flaring up with the next political trigger. In my opinion there are three reasons anti-Semitism is appearing now with renewed vigilance. The first is that historically, it always grows more virulent whenever and wherever the economy is bad. In a time when income disparity is growing, when hundreds of millions of people live in abject poverty, some find Jews to be a convenient scapegoat rather than looking at the real source of their problems. A second root cause of anti-Semitism derives from an irrational and misplaced hatred of Israel. Far too many people see Israel as an apartheid state and blame the people of an entire religion for what, in truth, are internal national-policy decisions. Does anyone really believe that the innocent victims in that kosher shop in Paris and at that bar mitzvah in Denmark had anything to do with Israeli-Palestinian policies or the building of settlements 2,000 miles away? The third reason is simple demographics. Europe is now home to 25 million to 30 million Muslims, twice the world''s entire Jewish population. Within any religious community that large, there will always be an extremist fringe, people who are radicalized and driven with hatred, while rejecting what all religions need to preach — respect, tolerance and love. We''re now seeing the amplified effects of that small, radicalized element. With the Internet, its virus of hatred can now speed from nation to nation, helping fuel Europe''s new epidemic of anti-Semitism. It is time for each of us to speak up against this hate. Speaking up is the responsibility of our political leaders. French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has made it clear that anti-Semitism violates the morals and spirit of France and that violent anti-Semitic acts are a crime against all French people that must be confronted, combated and stopped. He challenged his nation to tell the world: Without its Jews, France would no longer be France. Speaking up is the responsibility of our religious leaders, and Pope Francis has used his powerful voice to make his position and that of the Catholic Church clear, saying: "It''s a contradiction that a Christian is anti-Semitic. His roots are Jewish. Let anti-Semitism be banished from the heart and life of every man and every woman." In New York, Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan is well-known for building a bridge to the Jewish community. His words and actions and the Pope''s are evidence of the reconciliation between two major religions, an inspiring example of how a past full of persecution and embedded hostility can be overcome. It''s also the responsibility of regular citizens to take action. In Oslo, members of the Muslim community joined their fellow Norwegians to form a ring of peace at a local synagogue. Such actions give me hope — they send a message that together, we can stand up to hatred of the Jewish people. So that is our challenge in 2015, and all of us must take it up. Because if we confront anti-Semitism whenever we see it, if we combat it individually and as a society, and use whatever platform we have to denounce it, we can stop the spread of this madness. My son is strong. He is fortunate to live in a country where anti-Semitism is rare. But now he too has learned of the dangers that he as a Jew must face. It''s a lesson that I wish I didn''t have to teach him, a lesson I hope he will never have to teach his children. ————— ABOUT THE WRITER Michael Douglas, award-winning actor/producer and United Nations messenger of peace, received the 2015 Genesis Prize, which honors "exceptional people whose values and achievements will inspire the next generation of Jews." He wrote this for the Los Angeles Times.
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回复 20楼我们仨的帖子
他的车是不是贴了UBER的标?
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warmwinter
回复 51楼VozProgresiva的帖子
前任第一夫人,不仅英语说不利索
老爸还曾是共产党员,当过工厂党委书记
照样被当神一样捧着
luohash 发表于 2021-03-19 21:14

我没觉得,明明因为英语不好存在感不强
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warmwinter
来美二十多年,没觉得有什么歧视,倒是在国内随父母下放到小地方,然后去大城市读大学受的歧视不少。美国枪击案一年不少,死在枪下的白人、黑人比亚州人多多了。
Linwuduck 发表于 2021-03-19 23:35

因为同种肤色就不会有人提了
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Biden
其实美国的移民史就是一步互相歧视的历史,开始爱尔兰人,意大利人,德国人来的时候一样被歧视的厉害。爱尔兰人穷,意大利人跟老中类似,一大家子住一起,挣了钱就往老家寄,还不入籍想着挣够了钱回意大利。德国人移民到美国来的也是一帮子穷人,只是他们到美国比较早,慢慢都站稳了脚跟。非裔美国人的话题太敏感不能提。东亚裔老中是早期来的大多数是苦力,排华法案又被整了好几十年,那阵子说是连结婚都找不到媳妇。日裔是二战时被整了一把集中营,犹太人其实也被白人的犹太歧视,Michael Douglas我记得看过一篇文章讲他带着儿子出去玩,儿子去游泳池带着大卫星,被白人给骂回来了,连这种名人外加富人也是一样受到各种歧视和仇恨,更不要提少数族裔底层的各种遭遇,作为亚裔只能是去学会怎么应对这种挑战。

Last summer our family went to Southern Europe on holiday. During our stay at a hotel, our son Dylan went to the swimming pool. A short time later he came running back to the room, upset. A man at the pool had started hurling insults at him. My first instinct was to ask, "Were you misbehaving?" Last summer our family went to Southern Europe on holiday. During our stay at a hotel, our son Dylan went to the swimming pool. A short time later he came running back to the room, upset. A man at the pool had started hurling insults at him. My first instinct was to ask, "Were you misbehaving?" "No," Dylan told me through his tears. I stared at him. And suddenly I had an awful realization of what might have caused the man''s outrage: Dylan was wearing a Star of David. After calming him down, I went to the pool and asked the attendants to point out the man who had yelled at him. We talked. It was not a pleasant discussion. Afterward, I sat down with my son and said: "Dylan, you just had your first taste of anti-Semitism." My father, Kirk Douglas, born Issur Danielovitch, is Jewish. My mother, Diana, is not. I had no formal religious upbringing from either of them, and the two kids I have with Catherine Zeta-Jones are like me, growing up with one parent who is Jewish and one who is not. Several years ago Dylan, through his friends, developed a deep connection to Judaism, and when he started going to Hebrew school and studying for his bar mitzvah, I began to reconnect with the religion of my father. While some Jews believe that not having a Jewish mother makes me not Jewish, I have learned the hard way that those who hate do not make such fine distinctions. Dylan''s experience reminded me of my first encounter with anti-Semitism, in high school. A friend saw someone Jewish walk by, and with no provocation he confidently told me: "Michael, all Jews cheat in business." "What are you talking about?" I said. "Michael, come on," he replied. "Everyone knows that." With little knowledge of what it meant to be a Jew, I found myself passionately defending the Jewish people. Now, half a century later, I have to defend my son. Anti-Semitism, I''ve seen, is like a disease that goes dormant, flaring up with the next political trigger. In my opinion there are three reasons anti-Semitism is appearing now with renewed vigilance. The first is that historically, it always grows more virulent whenever and wherever the economy is bad. In a time when income disparity is growing, when hundreds of millions of people live in abject poverty, some find Jews to be a convenient scapegoat rather than looking at the real source of their problems. A second root cause of anti-Semitism derives from an irrational and misplaced hatred of Israel. Far too many people see Israel as an apartheid state and blame the people of an entire religion for what, in truth, are internal national-policy decisions. Does anyone really believe that the innocent victims in that kosher shop in Paris and at that bar mitzvah in Denmark had anything to do with Israeli-Palestinian policies or the building of settlements 2,000 miles away? The third reason is simple demographics. Europe is now home to 25 million to 30 million Muslims, twice the world''s entire Jewish population. Within any religious community that large, there will always be an extremist fringe, people who are radicalized and driven with hatred, while rejecting what all religions need to preach — respect, tolerance and love. We''re now seeing the amplified effects of that small, radicalized element. With the Internet, its virus of hatred can now speed from nation to nation, helping fuel Europe''s new epidemic of anti-Semitism. It is time for each of us to speak up against this hate. Speaking up is the responsibility of our political leaders. French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has made it clear that anti-Semitism violates the morals and spirit of France and that violent anti-Semitic acts are a crime against all French people that must be confronted, combated and stopped. He challenged his nation to tell the world: Without its Jews, France would no longer be France. Speaking up is the responsibility of our religious leaders, and Pope Francis has used his powerful voice to make his position and that of the Catholic Church clear, saying: "It''s a contradiction that a Christian is anti-Semitic. His roots are Jewish. Let anti-Semitism be banished from the heart and life of every man and every woman." In New York, Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan is well-known for building a bridge to the Jewish community. His words and actions and the Pope''s are evidence of the reconciliation between two major religions, an inspiring example of how a past full of persecution and embedded hostility can be overcome. It''s also the responsibility of regular citizens to take action. In Oslo, members of the Muslim community joined their fellow Norwegians to form a ring of peace at a local synagogue. Such actions give me hope — they send a message that together, we can stand up to hatred of the Jewish people. So that is our challenge in 2015, and all of us must take it up. Because if we confront anti-Semitism whenever we see it, if we combat it individually and as a society, and use whatever platform we have to denounce it, we can stop the spread of this madness. My son is strong. He is fortunate to live in a country where anti-Semitism is rare. But now he too has learned of the dangers that he as a Jew must face. It''s a lesson that I wish I didn''t have to teach him, a lesson I hope he will never have to teach his children. ————— ABOUT THE WRITER Michael Douglas, award-winning actor/producer and United Nations messenger of peace, received the 2015 Genesis Prize, which honors "exceptional people whose values and achievements will inspire the next generation of Jews." He wrote this for the Los Angeles Times.
ray_golden 发表于 2021-03-20 02:53


川普的爷爷的爷爷就是个德国人啊!!

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Biden
我没觉得,明明因为英语不好存在感不强
warmwinter 发表于 2021-03-20 05:53


这种东欧鬼女生, 英语学的不好, 也有人要啊!!
这种东欧鬼女生们, 不需要天天死学啊!!!
她们的选择太多太多啊!!
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RedRockG
您这话我还真不能够同意。众所周知,硅谷码农这个群体里面,大陆来的华人每天都能把印度来的阿三玩弄于股掌之上,不管在哪个层面。 虽然没有阿三那么卑鄙猥琐,华人凭借聪明的头脑和雄辩的口才,从车库到几个字母缩写的高级公司,全方位的掌控硅谷的一切,从技术到热钱。
南京菜农 发表于 2021-03-19 21:10

我怀疑你是不是在做梦😄
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说英语说得不好该被歧视吗?收入低该被歧视吗?长得矮该被歧视吗?长得丑该被歧视吗?智商低该被歧视吗?很多人一边说不能歧视,一边随口都是歧视……
灌水不要认真
我一个印度前同事给我linkedin发消息慰问我 我真是不知道说什么好 吃了个苍蝇的感觉。。。t m d你不是asian?