大数据看,同个大学,同个大学专业毕业,亚裔起薪比白人低10%到15%,比黑人低5%?10年后还是如此。 但亚裔似乎不关心这个问题, 这个网站上也没有其他人提这个问题。 从藤校的角度上看,既然亚裔不抱怨收入相对低,是否说明亚裔自己认为亚裔毕业生工作能力比较差,所以拿不到同样工资?或者亚裔毕业生质量相对低,市场只能给较低的工资。当然另外一种可能是有歧视,可是亚裔不抱怨啊!反倒是亚裔喜欢晒自己收入高,说明亚裔对自己相对非亚裔的同班同学的低收入很满意!比如说藤校毕业的亚裔做了码工很开心,虽然他们收入比不上白人,拉美,黑人同专业同学的收入。 所以藤校从投入产出比来看,要培养高质量的毕业生,应该减少亚裔录取。否则录取多的亚裔,毕业后收入比其他种族的低,甚至低于公立学校同专业非亚裔的收入,真是不make sense. 大家怎么回答这个问题?我是觉得亚裔工作市场被歧视远远大于藤校录取问题,最大歧视在工作。 当然从历史上看,亚裔对这种歧视的反应1是多读stem专业。后果是,虽然平均收入比读stem的白人低,但好歹比读文科的白人高。2是亚裔内部竞争激烈,推小孩去好学校。后果是,虽然亚裔好学校毕业工资比不上白人好学校同专业毕业平均,但好歹比白人普通学校毕业平均收入高。 Have Asian American men achieved labor market parity with white men? ChangHwan Kim, Arthur Sakamoto American Sociological Review 75 (6), 934-957, 2010 We use the 2003 National Survey of College Graduates to investigate earnings differentials between white and Asian American men. We extend prior literature by disaggregating Asian Americans by their immigration status in relation to the U.S. educational system, and by accounting for the effects of field of study and college type. Net of the latter variables and other demographic controls, native-born Asian American men have 8 percent lower earnings than do measurably comparable white men. 这只是一篇。 https://www.chicagoreporter.com/asian-americans-dont-see-same-returns-on-education-as-whites-in-chicago/ 这是另一篇 https://www.higheredtoday.org/2019/08/21/uneven-playing-field-complex-educational-experiences-asian-americans/ 另一篇 Further, a study by Columbia University researchers suggests that while Asian Americans receive advantages in the realm of education, they have less return on investment on their degrees when they enter the labor market. As stated in the study: “Asian ethnic groups are over-credentialed with regards to education to achieve parity with whites in the labor market” (Tran, Lee, and Huang 2019).
Have Asian American men achieved labor market parity with white men? ChangHwan Kim, Arthur Sakamoto American Sociological Review 75 (6), 934-957, 2010 We use the 2003 National Survey of College Graduates to investigate earnings differentials between white and Asian American men. We extend prior literature by disaggregating Asian Americans by their immigration status in relation to the U.S. educational system, and by accounting for the effects of field of study and college type. Net of the latter variables and other demographic controls, native-born Asian American men have 8 percent lower earnings than do measurably comparable white men. 这只是一篇。 https://www.chicagoreporter.com/asian-americans-dont-see-same-returns-on-education-as-whites-in-chicago/ 这是另一篇
Have Asian American men achieved labor market parity with white men? ChangHwan Kim, Arthur Sakamoto American Sociological Review 75 (6), 934-957, 2010 We use the 2003 National Survey of College Graduates to investigate earnings differentials between white and Asian American men. We extend prior literature by disaggregating Asian Americans by their immigration status in relation to the U.S. educational system, and by accounting for the effects of field of study and college type. Net of the latter variables and other demographic controls, native-born Asian American men have 8 percent lower earnings than do measurably comparable white men. 这只是一篇。 https://www.chicagoreporter.com/asian-americans-dont-see-same-returns-on-education-as-whites-in-chicago/ 这是另一篇
但亚裔似乎不关心这个问题, 这个网站上也没有其他人提这个问题。
从藤校的角度上看,既然亚裔不抱怨收入相对低,是否说明亚裔自己认为亚裔毕业生工作能力比较差,所以拿不到同样工资?或者亚裔毕业生质量相对低,市场只能给较低的工资。当然另外一种可能是有歧视,可是亚裔不抱怨啊!反倒是亚裔喜欢晒自己收入高,说明亚裔对自己相对非亚裔的同班同学的低收入很满意!比如说藤校毕业的亚裔做了码工很开心,虽然他们收入比不上白人,拉美,黑人同专业同学的收入。
所以藤校从投入产出比来看,要培养高质量的毕业生,应该减少亚裔录取。否则录取多的亚裔,毕业后收入比其他种族的低,甚至低于公立学校同专业非亚裔的收入,真是不make sense.
大家怎么回答这个问题?我是觉得亚裔工作市场被歧视远远大于藤校录取问题,最大歧视在工作。
当然从历史上看,亚裔对这种歧视的反应1是多读stem专业。后果是,虽然平均收入比读stem的白人低,但好歹比读文科的白人高。2是亚裔内部竞争激烈,推小孩去好学校。后果是,虽然亚裔好学校毕业工资比不上白人好学校同专业毕业平均,但好歹比白人普通学校毕业平均收入高。
Have Asian American men achieved labor market parity with white men? ChangHwan Kim, Arthur Sakamoto American Sociological Review 75 (6), 934-957, 2010 We use the 2003 National Survey of College Graduates to investigate earnings differentials between white and Asian American men. We extend prior literature by disaggregating Asian Americans by their immigration status in relation to the U.S. educational system, and by accounting for the effects of field of study and college type. Net of the latter variables and other demographic controls, native-born Asian American men have 8 percent lower earnings than do measurably comparable white men.
这只是一篇。
https://www.chicagoreporter.com/asian-americans-dont-see-same-returns-on-education-as-whites-in-chicago/ 这是另一篇
https://www.higheredtoday.org/2019/08/21/uneven-playing-field-complex-educational-experiences-asian-americans/ 另一篇 Further, a study by Columbia University researchers suggests that while Asian Americans receive advantages in the realm of education, they have less return on investment on their degrees when they enter the labor market. As stated in the study: “Asian ethnic groups are over-credentialed with regards to education to achieve parity with whites in the labor market” (Tran, Lee, and Huang 2019).
去腾校毕业之后拧螺丝和sjsu 毕业拧螺丝 有多大区别?
你可真孤陋寡闻的,这是主流不愿意说的数据,但是做研究的都知道。
做研究的也得有source吧
藤校亚裔螺丝钉比sjsu亚裔螺丝钉收入高一些,但藤校亚裔螺丝钉,不一定比sjsu非亚裔毕业生收入高。
去看看肄业率,藤校aa进去的天使族的百分比可美观了。
鸵鸟真多
哈哈哈,这网上还真是啥啥都能张口就来。还”不愿意说“,不过是因为有人一拍脑袋想出来的而以吧。
Have Asian American men achieved labor market parity with white men? ChangHwan Kim, Arthur Sakamoto American Sociological Review 75 (6), 934-957, 2010 We use the 2003 National Survey of College Graduates to investigate earnings differentials between white and Asian American men. We extend prior literature by disaggregating Asian Americans by their immigration status in relation to the U.S. educational system, and by accounting for the effects of field of study and college type. Net of the latter variables and other demographic controls, native-born Asian American men have 8 percent lower earnings than do measurably comparable white men.
这只是一篇。
https://www.chicagoreporter.com/asian-americans-dont-see-same-returns-on-education-as-whites-in-chicago/ 这是另一篇
美国亚洲人平均收入比白人高很多,这个是众所周知的事情,你觉得你能搅出啥明堂镜?
动动脑子,是因为亚裔为了弥补相对收入低,多读书,更高比例读大学,读硕士。所以虽然同等专业下收入低,但因为亚裔读大学的比例多,读收入高的专业比例高,读研究生的比例高,所以综合平均收入高。
白人读大学的收入比同等专业亚裔高,但不读大学的比例高,拖累了median收入。黑人更是如此。
除非拿出权威研究机构的数据,不然瞎说有啥好说。
讲真,稍微动一下脑子想想:亚裔学理科的比率肯定比其他人种高。然后lz去搜一下,各个专业的收入排名。
又一个不动脑子的。亚裔读理工比例高,读大学比例高,读研究生比例高,拉高平均水平,很对。
但是在同样读理工的人里面比较,亚裔中间收入最低,明白了吧?
亚裔怎么工资偏低啦,你说男的工资比女的高那还可信,那职位都是一定钱的,亚裔的问题是进阶难,进管理层难,进某些行业难,不是工资低吧。
进管理层难,假设管理层收入高,不就说明工作10年后,亚裔收入还是比不上同专业同学校毕业的非亚裔吗?
大家要提高一下逻辑思维能力和辩论能力!
但是在同样读理工的人里面比较,亚裔中间收入最低。-------这说法如果是真的,那不就是歧视么?
女性平权运动怎么来的?同样背景,女性收入低于男性,所以开始了平权运动。按照你的理论,女的收入低,说明女的能力差,所以不要雇佣女的就解决问题了。您这神马法西斯的逻辑。。。
思维水平那么高的楼主倒是解释解释亚裔少进藤校为什么能解决亚裔在职场被歧视的问题?难不成您是藤校校董,和这里的亚裔大众不是一个利益集团的?
如果出来也只是当螺丝钉 盯着自己的一亩三分地 当初其实不用费那么大劲去爬藤 有天分的可以 那些特别辛苦的父母和娃都辛苦的感觉没啥必要 好累好不划算
希望花费了社会资源父母资源自己也很辛苦的那么多亚裔藤校孩子能更多的帮助自身这个群体一点
我也觉得有歧视。
但是另一种观点,亚裔毕业生能力低,也不是那么容易反驳的,何况从来没有听到亚裔抱怨这件事,是不是说明些啥?
亚裔少进藤校,和亚裔在职业上少被歧视是没有关联的。
只不过很奇怪,为啥大家只关心藤校亚裔录取问题,而不关心自己职业收入问题,或者不关心藤校毕业亚裔的收入问题,很难解释亚裔的这种行为。
在两个问题之间建立因果关系的是楼主你,说亚裔不关心职业前途的也是楼主你。被楼主批评逻辑水平低下的我们都是两个问题同时努力解决也不打算放弃的。
同样的人,同样的学校,同样的教育背景,毕业以后收就明显少,这明显是被岐视了还要求自我阉割。
LZ跪舔白人到了就差自绝于世界的地步了。按他的理论,妇女要求同工同酬完全是错误的。