纽约时报报的至少20人因冬季恶劣天气过世,包括休斯顿母女。 Rain and snow moved into the Northeast as frigid temperatures gripped parts of the United States that are unaccustomed to slick roads and a deep freeze. At least 20 people have died in the storm or its aftermath. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/16/us/winter-storm-weather-live
连墨西哥北部都停电了。 By Reuters, Wire Service Content Feb. 15, 2021, at 10:42 a.m. More U.S. News & World Report Power Cuts Hit 4.7 Million Users in Northern Mexico After Cold Snap More Reuters Light poles are pictured without power during an outage in Mexico's electricity network, in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico February 15, 2021. REUTERS/ Jose Luis GonzalezREUTERS MEXICO CITY (REUTERS) - A cold snap knocked out power for 4.7 million users in northern Mexico early on Monday, triggering a scramble by authorities to restore service and bring in extra fuel, with parts of the neighboring United States also hit hard. Frozen pipelines and a squeeze on natural gas deliveries from Texas roiled several northern states, though by midday, service had been restored to 58% of the affected supply, Mexican national electricity grid operator CENACE said. Recommended Videos Powered by AnyClip Dust storm slams Vegas with damaging winds and power outages 943 Play Video
Ad: (10) NOW PLAYINGDust storm slams Vegas with damaging winds and power outages Twitter Warns of Slower User Growth in 2021 Right-wing social media app Parler back online Ariana Grande teases new deluxe version of her latest album Bitcoin soars 14% on Musk namecheck on Twitter The outage hit about 6,950 megawatts of load, CENACE said, urging people in the states of Chihuahua, Coahuila, Durango, Nuevo Leon, Sinaloa, Sonora and Tamaulipas to curb power usage. The freeze also knocked out electricity for more than 2 million customers in Texas. Guillermo Nevarez, a senior executive at state power utility the Comision Federal de Electricidad (CFE), said 4.7 million users had initially been affected by the outage and by around midday, service had been restored to almost 2.6 million of them. The CFE vowed to use energy from other sources to help cover shortfalls, and said the recent spike in natural gas prices caused by the crunch would add 20 billion pesos to its costs. But users' electricity rates should not be affected, it said. To help offset the U.S. natural gas shortfall, two shipments would arrive in the ports of Manzanillo and Altamira in the next few days, said Miguel Reyes, another senior CFE executive, speaking at a virtual news conference with Nevarez.
看了之后心里很难受,小女孩才8岁。这真的是发达国家吗? 到处都在停电。 https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/local/woman-little-girl-die-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-8300-la-roche-southwest-houston/285-18658b89-577e-4754-87ec-0d6cbd6358dc?__twitter_impression=true
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我们广东最冷记得也不到零度以下吧,以前还是会烧碳取暖,后来用热水袋,现在都用热宝啊电暖风啊。曾经有一次冬天在湖北,没有暖气,直接冻病了,穿多少衣服都没用,零下十几度没有暖气真的顶不住的。
没电不是光取暖的问题,还没法烧饭,晚上四面八方黑漆漆。
你在南京如果冬天食堂不给做饭,餐馆不开门,你不难受? 你还是年轻力壮的。现在这些德州人有很多体弱的年老的和小婴孩。
上海今年的寒潮,到处爆水管。
现在都有空调了。没空调的时候,零下9°,就很难了。所以,才会把炉子放进房间取暖。
南京比上海冷啊 最低零下13度不是没有过。上海入海口 海水调节温度比内陆强。上海难得下雪 我印象中南京冬天下雪挺普通的一件事。德州这次看温度真不算什么 就是装备没跟上。
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德州从来都不是绿色能源推广州啊。德州是republican. 据说原因是德州的电网是自己本州的,没有和其他州联网,所以才导致这样
By Reuters, Wire Service Content Feb. 15, 2021, at 10:42 a.m. More U.S. News & World Report Power Cuts Hit 4.7 Million Users in Northern Mexico After Cold Snap
More Reuters Light poles are pictured without power during an outage in Mexico's electricity network, in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico February 15, 2021. REUTERS/ Jose Luis GonzalezREUTERS
MEXICO CITY (REUTERS) - A cold snap knocked out power for 4.7 million users in northern Mexico early on Monday, triggering a scramble by authorities to restore service and bring in extra fuel, with parts of the neighboring United States also hit hard.
Frozen pipelines and a squeeze on natural gas deliveries from Texas roiled several northern states, though by midday, service had been restored to 58% of the affected supply, Mexican national electricity grid operator CENACE said.
Recommended Videos Powered by AnyClip Dust storm slams Vegas with damaging winds and power outages 943 Play Video
Ad: (10) NOW PLAYINGDust storm slams Vegas with damaging winds and power outages Twitter Warns of Slower User Growth in 2021 Right-wing social media app Parler back online Ariana Grande teases new deluxe version of her latest album Bitcoin soars 14% on Musk namecheck on Twitter
The outage hit about 6,950 megawatts of load, CENACE said, urging people in the states of Chihuahua, Coahuila, Durango, Nuevo Leon, Sinaloa, Sonora and Tamaulipas to curb power usage.
The freeze also knocked out electricity for more than 2 million customers in Texas.
Guillermo Nevarez, a senior executive at state power utility the Comision Federal de Electricidad (CFE), said 4.7 million users had initially been affected by the outage and by around midday, service had been restored to almost 2.6 million of them.
The CFE vowed to use energy from other sources to help cover shortfalls, and said the recent spike in natural gas prices caused by the crunch would add 20 billion pesos to its costs. But users' electricity rates should not be affected, it said.
To help offset the U.S. natural gas shortfall, two shipments would arrive in the ports of Manzanillo and Altamira in the next few days, said Miguel Reyes, another senior CFE executive, speaking at a virtual news conference with Nevarez.
你这完全不懂power market。我这次追踪很多新闻,学到了很多东西。德州的power market是自由市场,也就是政府根本不插手。
我老公算是做发电这一块的,他们平时电价大概在15,16左右,前天晚上瞬间暴涨到9000。
一晚上卖电就千万,结果第二天太冷,发电停了还得买电,又亏回去了……
嗯嗯。这个层主说的对。德州电网是自己弄的。出事没人back up
停电三个小时就冷得要命,你家房子是有多老,保温性是有多差?不懂就别在这里瞎凑热闹。
零下摄氏度没有暖气3个小时,确实蛮冷的啊
三个小时很幸运了好吧。 我们城市有些地区停了都快30个小时了。
你没看新闻吗?达拉斯所有的轮流停电 来确保供电 乱喷先读一读新闻好吧
德州自己不愿意加入National Grid。它家的电力公司当然不会说如果入了Grid就不会出现现状。
再说了,现在是因为一下子gas demand上升,所以导致supple distribution跟不上。就好比疫情当初买不到手纸一样。难道买不到手纸也能跟推广绿化,限制砍树有关系吗?
如果是single family house,家庭是要必备柴油发电机的。发电机半年就得开一开,一年维护一次。世界上没有任何的电网是100%可靠的。
给你感受下 第三世界国家的温度
这个天气,如果想靠太阳能,那只有太阳能发电板不够,得有足够容量的电池并且提前蓄够,现在贵的是蓄电这部分。
话说谁来说说,德州发生了这种事情不开避难所的吗?我们这里很少停电,但是去年夏天在最热的几天停了一次,town马上开放shelter可以去乘凉。德州下雪又停电怎么说也得开放shelter吧。
在石油界这个城市如雷贯耳。无数输油输气管线好吧?不过这几天很多油井都关了。
有shelter 的。但是现在路上都是冰,去哪里都要开车,没办法去啊!
今年开shelter让大家去避难,会有集中传染的问题吧
自由市场power? 有意思
你做个人吧。太冷血了
还有朋友在cypress, 停电快30多个小时的。简直地狱模式
德州州长上周刚刚领了奖~ https://nawindpower.com/texas-governor-receives-tges-wind-leadership-award
现在风车被冻上了,太阳能板被冰和雪盖住了,所以至少四分之一的电力供应都没了~
看来不能完全rely on wind和solar. 不过德州结冰也是极其罕见的事。
怎么可以涨六百倍!这真的不算price gauging 吗。
自由市场电网有点可怕
自由市场
即使南方没有暖气也有小太阳之类的电力取暖器。 休斯顿是连电都没了。
你能别在这里凡尔赛show优越感了么。就是有人家里密封不好。很奇怪吗?不是每个人都能住很新的房子+ 双层玻璃的。有点同理心好吗
可怜
煤球煮水,穿着三条裤子,脚底塞个暖壶手里也报个,还是冷的不行
这个人不是一般的奇怪 因为名字里一个翔 让人印象深刻
看到了吗 我家楼下的湖 湖面结冰了 早上还有几只鸭子冻在冰上
看到了 右上角 鸭子站在冰面上 估计他们也没见过冰吧
你现在移民还来得及
德州什么时候rely on新能源了,那么多石油公司能同意?这就是电力公司甩锅的
我住的地方有2个很大的老人社区,去年停电很多老人去了shelter。强制戴口罩,每个人呆在自己的小圈圈里,6ft apart。也没见感染数量飙升。 如果现在为止德州人民还不愿意戴口罩和social distance的话...那也没办法了。
local主流媒体的网站上都有warming center信息的
那几位估计都是石油公司的,面临业务萎缩奖金缩水
鸭子还活着吗
你怎知道和盲目推绿能无关呢?
据说德国冬天也缺电,也是绿能造成的。
目前的绿能是非常依赖自然的,面对极端天气,确实会严重受影响。
不是完全或者大规模rely。整个电力5%-10%替换成绿能就会造成这种影响。
这也是我第一反应。
不要说美国,就休斯顿,texas。美国刮风下雨的地方很多,电力供应都没问题。所以问题不是美国而是texas的电力政策出了问题。
大农村家里都会备发电机,备上汽油,取暖是可以保证的。
我还真没有凡尔赛,只是觉得那个层主有些矫情。德州的房屋,再不济三个小时不供暖也就降温几度而已,也不至于冷到哪里去,几百万的人一天多了都一直处在停电的状态,她才三个小时,就呼喊冷死了,那些30几个小时处在停电状态的人又该如何?
bless所有地区电力快些恢复正常,所有人的家都恢复温暖。
加入国家电网并不能保证碰上灾情不停电。当年有震惊世界的美加大停电,还有纽约因为Sandy飓风800万人停电,加州刮风和大火也停电。这次是因为supply受到影响,据说德州风力发电占到电力供应的26%,然后风车被冻住了,电网肯定崩溃了。如果把国家电网也牵扯进来,可能会导致更多地方停电,类似于美加大停电。 根本原因还是鼓吹绿色能源,但是这些能源很大的问题是不稳定。化石燃料的电厂是电网稳定的基石。
也算是半人为了。新能源企业有incentive 去Lobby。
现在好多壁炉是假的火苗,也需要电吧
零下10度你说要太阳能发电?绿色能源魔怔了吧
不是德州,很多地方电力输送设施陈旧,到处拉着电线杆子,遇到暴雨暴雪树枝刮断压断电线,就停电了。新区都应该电线埋地下的。
别太较真,喊冷死了的人没电肯定也能撑过24小时,就是个夸张的说法,大冷天一出门几秒钟的时间也可能喊冷死了。
有道理。政策变化要考虑极端情况
不是输电线路的问题,是风力发电机叶片冻住了
总算在一堆外行的胡说八道里看到真正懂行的
最好的办法穿上羽绒衣,把所有被子都盖上。淋浴器放热水到热水袋。
用发电机发电然后电取暖?感觉效率不高啊。
只是顺便感叹一下,人类不能全部rely on wind & solar. 因为气候天气不够reliable. 还是需要some fossil fuel作为能源的back up.
新式壁炉很多燃气的。
美国体制没问题。 翻墙的,都洗洗睡吧。
那你怎么知道和推新能源有关呢?有任何证据?德州一直是共和党,他们根本就没有推新能源好不好?
真的不一样。我们这平时冬天根本没雪,温度最低一般也就到摄氏零度。 这次冻雨+大雪+零下十几度, 确实极为罕见。 人和设备都没经历过,也没经验。出问题一点不奇怪。
严格来说,零下十度和太阳能发电不冲突啊,晴空万里的时候也可能气温零下十度。有文献表明,低温其实对于太阳能发电是个好事。
https://www.sempersolaris.com/weather-and-solar-panels/#:~:text=Top-rated%20solar%20panels%20are%20engineered%20to%20withstand%20winds,actually%20be%20an%20ideal%20environment%20for%20solar%20panels.
"淋浴器放热水到热水袋" 看是气加热还是电加热的。我家刚化成气加热的了。要不然哪儿来的热水。
电线埋在地下也有问题的。
笑死了 停电哪来的热水。。连壁炉都是插电的
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