But she arrived in L.A. to find “the most insane housing market I’ve ever seen,” she says. Every house seemed to get 15 or 16 offers, she says, and sell for $100,000 over its asking price. Her offer was eventually accepted on a circa-1975 house with a renovated kitchen in Santa Clarita. At that point, she had been outbid on seven other houses, she says, so she was determined to get this one, even when the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos. “I was really trying to get out of where I lived,” she says. “I spent five to six months looking. All of these factors made me say, ‘OK, I have to just face it, I can’t back out.’ ” She sold the house a few months after buying it. After the repairs, agents’ fees and transaction costs, she says, “I lost a lot of money.” She now lives in a rented studio in L.A.’s Koreatown, where she says she’s much happier. “It still hurts,” she says, but “it’s just good to have my money back and move on to other things. And never see the house again.”
年轻人不住在市区不会happy的。做年轻人，别做boomer But she arrived in L.A. to find “the most insane housing market I’ve ever seen,” she says. Every house seemed to get 15 or 16 offers, she says, and sell for $100,000 over its asking price. Her offer was eventually accepted on a circa-1975 house with a renovated kitchen in Santa Clarita. At that point, she had been outbid on seven other houses, she says, so she was determined to get this one, even when the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos. “I was really trying to get out of where I lived,” she says. “I spent five to six months looking. All of these factors made me say, ‘OK, I have to just face it, I can’t back out.’ ” She sold the house a few months after buying it. After the repairs, agents’ fees and transaction costs, she says, “I lost a lot of money.” She now lives in a rented studio in L.A.’s Koreatown, where she says she’s much happier. “It still hurts,” she says, but “it’s just good to have my money back and move on to other things. And never see the house again.”
文章没读到重点啊 -- " the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos" -- 这种房子fix起来就是很费钱的，还不说霉能不能去掉。 昨天我看哪个贴有人还提到买了个发霉而且全部窗都要换掉的房子，我都惊呆了。 这种condition的房子修起来就是个无底洞。
文章没读到重点啊 -- " the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos" -- 这种房子fix起来就是很费钱的，还不说霉能不能去掉。 昨天我看哪个贴有人还提到买了个发霉而且全部窗都要换掉的房子，我都惊呆了。 这种condition的房子修起来就是个无底洞。
文章没读到重点啊 -- " the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos" -- 这种房子fix起来就是很费钱的，还不说霉能不能去掉。 昨天我看哪个贴有人还提到买了个发霉而且全部窗都要换掉的房子，我都惊呆了。 这种condition的房子修起来就是个无底洞。
But she arrived in L.A. to find “the most insane housing market I’ve ever seen,” she says. Every house seemed to get 15 or 16 offers, she says, and sell for $100,000 over its asking price. Her offer was eventually accepted on a circa-1975 house with a renovated kitchen in Santa Clarita. At that point, she had been outbid on seven other houses, she says, so she was determined to get this one, even when the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos. “I was really trying to get out of where I lived,” she says. “I spent five to six months looking. All of these factors made me say, ‘OK, I have to just face it, I can’t back out.’ ” She sold the house a few months after buying it. After the repairs, agents’ fees and transaction costs, she says, “I lost a lot of money.” She now lives in a rented studio in L.A.’s Koreatown, where she says she’s much happier. “It still hurts,” she says, but “it’s just good to have my money back and move on to other things. And never see the house again.”
But she arrived in L.A. to find “the most insane housing market I’ve ever seen,” she says. Every house seemed to get 15 or 16 offers, she says, and sell for $100,000 over its asking price. Her offer was eventually accepted on a circa-1975 house with a renovated kitchen in Santa Clarita. At that point, she had been outbid on seven other houses, she says, so she was determined to get this one, even when the inspection revealed toxic black mold and asbestos. “I was really trying to get out of where I lived,” she says. “I spent five to six months looking. All of these factors made me say, ‘OK, I have to just face it, I can’t back out.’ ” She sold the house a few months after buying it. After the repairs, agents’ fees and transaction costs, she says, “I lost a lot of money.” She now lives in a rented studio in L.A.’s Koreatown, where she says she’s much happier. “It still hurts,” she says, but “it’s just good to have my money back and move on to other things. And never see the house again.”
不过疫情可能会导致很多人长期wfh, 大公司可能也不一定想在市中心保留那么多office位置，所以郊区房趋势很难预测。
会不会是纽约市或者曼哈顿的房市不好，动用宣传手段让大家回来？ 记得纽约疫情大爆发后，很多富人离开纽约，州长还恳请富豪回纽约，说会亲自给下厨什么的。
那个坏州长做的饭 谁敢吃😂
新冠只是让举棋不定的下定决心，大家都知道新冠会过去的，没有那些不利原因大家可能在郊区租房子忍忍就行了，不用买房子的
你觉得你认为的“富人”这么容易被忽悠么？那些人早就是郊区有几套weekend/vacation house了，和买房不是一回事
富人自己不一定住downtown, 但有些自己搞房地产的在downtown有投资啊，downtown公寓楼的老板们肯定着急
郊区房的大问题是现在买了，又贵又老，无聊加commute，老了没人会接盘。 以后学区没了，年轻人也不要小孩了，就更没有人去了。
这不是显然的嘛，我们已经不是年轻人了，在紧挨纽约的河边住了半年都觉得无聊死了。简直没法想象在更偏的地方住一辈子啥感觉。
如果霉斑不是很深的话，其实可以修理。
asbestos 是石棉吧，禁用材料，得全换。 加上霉 -- 这些都是跟健康相关的，有选择为什么要选这样的房子。
可能是有人flip. 换完窗户，刷层新漆，拿出来卖。或者出租。住的人不知道房子有问题。
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wfh再多，也并不是要在郊区住的意思。生活方式上郊区的life是给boomer，给白人老头老太的。 但问题的关键也不是生活方式，而是能源和自由的理念。 能源角度看：在一片同样面积的地上造一个楼养活500户人和造10个房子养10户人是不可能逆转的。 自由角度看，学区房等等这些制造种族隔阂的东西会被打破，白人聚集的所谓富人区suburb会被新生代摒弃，这也是不可逆转的。
不是“用不用住downtown”的问题，很多人住城里也不是仅仅为了commute。要说去华尔街，住Newport 比 上东区过去那可近多了。
年轻人大部分是喜欢城市的。只不过疫情导致不少有孩子的家庭搬去郊区。外加纽约市政府加速师把纽约教育乱搞，不确定性很高。这个教育的不确定性导致纽约市今年非常多非常多的人申请私校。
的确是这个趋势，房价越来越贵不是年轻人负担的起的，所以都是年轻人在城里租房，成家了有孩子的还会担心治安问题，小年轻不怕，成了家没有孩子也不怕。
郊区的房子的好处是looting是基本很难波及，通过去年的looting估计很多人体会到了。疫情过后如果股市崩盘，经济不好的话现在这种治安不好的情况会维持几年。
所以老人去郊区住是有道理的，不会在chinatown被某族裔的给弄死。
looting是少数极端分子乘火打劫。 问题是以后的游行会冲击富人区和白人区。
这次也说去了近郊吧，所以得进山啊，入口都找不到那种
playground都没人知道，都是自己家的娃一起玩
好可怕，住在这样的地方。寂寞死
还好吧，邻居很多，只是不在外面走而已。
我家娃以前练骑马的马场得往山里走，去san ramon的山里，每家都几十acre那种，进了大门还得开两分钟，养个百十匹马，我要是发财就去买这种，家院里打靶都打不到邻居家。
文章里那个就是自己失心疯了，抢房抢的失去理智，买了个破房子，并不是人人买郊区都买那样的，有点标题党的意思
你自己没娃吧，我以前住的城市专门出过一个报道，说millennial 喜欢住城里，但是当他们生娃了最后还是回到了郊区，不光是学区，还有space...
这波郊区房价猛涨都是疫情的原因啊
房价太高appraisal过不了and/or贷款卡得紧
发达国家普遍生育率下降。周围没有年轻人愿意要孩子的。 自己的生活都没有想清楚，责任感更跟不上。
哈哈，一群中老年人（无贬义）妄自揣度年轻人的心思。。。我组里一个00年某藤毕业的fresh graduate刚签了三个月后纽约市里的lease迫不及待搬进去
我歪个楼，进山找不到入口那是千与千寻
看了深有同感
很多做人的基本准则 不要冲动买大件
不要在没时间没awareness的情况下做决定
冲动是魔鬼 不过没有这些冲动的人 哪儿来后面的波涛汹涌呢
历史总是在重复着
各种为了抢房waive contingency和加价
然后对新区不熟 外加疫情期间没有多的时间多考察
结果还买了不如意的房子
不过也许也有买了十份称心如意的房子的人
然后今年年初我的agent很好 给我update了最后的售价 只有一栋是在我撑的住的范围内的 后面的都是连agent都觉得是买家买贵了的
总之现在我就不再看了 土豪太多了 我就是贫限想
等四月再说 如果政府继续延迟交贷款 估计这种疯狂抢房的市场情绪还会继续
这些人买房之前不做inspection的吗……
我家10后出生的年轻人表示曼哈顿不好，还是大农村大house好。
我也觉得是说明房价虚高
你的逻辑是真的不好，10后出生的现在有能力自己租房吗？都还没到读完大学那坎呢
那位应该是开玩笑吧，不过也太冷了。不光是有没有钱的问题，十岁的孩子到曼哈顿的娱乐活动能和二十岁的比吗？
你这一个报道的结论也太多了。 年轻人住城里的没错，但是以美国都会区的治安水平和城市治理程度，只要有条件的中产在生孩子之后都会往suburb搬。学区房这个事情主要看neighborhood好坏。像是加州有几个上中产聚居区的学区房，移民比例也很高。
这东西其实要看这一波疫情把remote working推多远了。 湾区这里有些signal看着不好，好几个科技公司都大量的remote了。这些年轻人完全可以去东西海岸以外的一些二线都市区生活了。Austin最近的big boom就是这个效果。
养着两三个孩子的人实在是没法想象住condo。连townhouse都不太能接受。
10后才10岁懂啥，等他20岁了独立生活了他的opinion才算数
年轻人要去的都是大都市，不是大乡下。 和中国农村一样，大家都要去北京上海，房子跌了马上买低，不会逆转