第三个，印度男孩 https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/l8woyn/brown_boi_talks_his_way_into_t30swill_update_with/ 成绩在亚裔里大概算中上，家境中产，但是想学政治，自称靠吹牛进T30, 已经被UNC Chapel Hill, USC录取 Brown boi talks his way into T30’s(will update with RD) Demographics Gender: Male Race/Ethnicity: Asian(Indian) Residence: NC Income Bracket: 130Kish Type of School: Competitive public- dozen or so T20’s each year Hooks (Recruited Athlete, URM, First-Gen, Geographic, Legacy, etc.): Nah Intended Major(s): Political Science/Public policy Academics GPA (UW/W): 3.75/4.33 Rank (or percentile):50/440ish just outside top 10% # of Honors/AP/IB/Dual Enrollment/etc.: 8 Senior Year Course Load: AP:Bio/Research-4 honors+1 standard class I got shoved into Standardized Testing List the highest scores earned and all scores that were reported. ACT: 33 (32E, 30M, 35R, 34S) only time I took it AP/IB: Lang(5) Gov(5) Hugeo(5) Pysch(4) Seminar(4) Stat(4) Extracurriculars/Activities List all extracurricular involvements, including leadership roles, time commitments, major achievements, etc. Executive board member/co-president(weird situation this year)/Former Exec member and chaplain. YMCA leadership/volunteer club. Planned and ran meetings, gave weekly devotions and stuff 5 hrs a week/52 weeks a year Varsity debate- 4 years, event captain, trained novices, pretty successful locally and a small amount of national success 8 hrs a week (average including tournament time Board director- national youth NPO targeting sexual violence through local policy change and education initiatives. I run the chapter program overseeing our 10 state chapters 6 hrs a week 52 weeks 800+ volunteer hours at the Y- This is partially part of the leadership organization but I started before I joined that I do more then the required hrs. Some small stuff no really relevant Awards/Honors List all awards and honors submitted on your application. Literally all just debate stuff lmao NCFL LD national qualifier NSDA nations WSD double octofinals NSDA Academic all American Second alternate qualifier in LD Debate NSDA degree of superior discrimination Letters of Recommendation Debate coach of 4 years /2X teacher- definitely a very good rec, good relationship probably at least 8/10 Pysch teacher- only taught me once but we used to talk about current events and stuff probably a good rec may not be outstanding 6-7/10 Interviews Wake Forest- went well, we went about 15-20 minutes over time. Very conversational and we spent a decent amount of time talking about my Ap Research topic which is on voting and stuff. I did catch myself looking off to the side a bit tho so idk. 7/10 Essays Definitely a highlight, I think my essays were pretty good and at the very least unique Common app: Talked about my thoughts on learning and truth and the constant stream of questions that flow through my mind at all times. Spent a lot of time in this one and looking back on it there isn’t a whole lot I’d change. Supplements UNC: one was on samosas and the connection to my wide spread family the other was on the housing discrimination issue in my city. Both were good but could be improved on ngl. I spent a lot of time working on them though. NC state: Kinda twisted the question back- said the paradigm for creating inclusion was backwards. Wrote it in about an hour not my best work but definitely a different type of essay I’ll update this as I get RD decisions Decisions (indicate ED/EA/REA/SCEA/RD) Acceptances: UNC Chapel Hill(EA) NC State (EA) UofSC (EA)+undisclosed scholarship Waitlists: Rejections: RD: William and Mary George Washington Yale WUSTL Wake Forest
第三个，印度男孩 https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/l8woyn/brown_boi_talks_his_way_into_t30swill_update_with/ 成绩在亚裔里大概算中上，家境中产，但是想学政治，自称靠吹牛进T30, 已经被UNC Chapel Hill, USC录取 Brown boi talks his way into T30’s(will update with RD) Demographics Gender: Male Race/Ethnicity: Asian(Indian) Residence: NC Income Bracket: 130Kish Type of School: Competitive public- dozen or so T20’s each year Hooks (Recruited Athlete, URM, First-Gen, Geographic, Legacy, etc.): Nah Intended Major(s): Political Science/Public policy Academics GPA (UW/W): 3.75/4.33 Rank (or percentile):50/440ish just outside top 10% # of Honors/AP/IB/Dual Enrollment/etc.: 8 Senior Year Course Load: AP:Bio/Research-4 honors+1 standard class I got shoved into Standardized Testing List the highest scores earned and all scores that were reported. ACT: 33 (32E, 30M, 35R, 34S) only time I took it AP/IB: Lang(5) Gov(5) Hugeo(5) Pysch(4) Seminar(4) Stat(4) Extracurriculars/Activities List all extracurricular involvements, including leadership roles, time commitments, major achievements, etc. Executive board member/co-president(weird situation this year)/Former Exec member and chaplain. YMCA leadership/volunteer club. Planned and ran meetings, gave weekly devotions and stuff 5 hrs a week/52 weeks a year Varsity debate- 4 years, event captain, trained novices, pretty successful locally and a small amount of national success 8 hrs a week (average including tournament time Board director- national youth NPO targeting sexual violence through local policy change and education initiatives. I run the chapter program overseeing our 10 state chapters 6 hrs a week 52 weeks 800+ volunteer hours at the Y- This is partially part of the leadership organization but I started before I joined that I do more then the required hrs. Some small stuff no really relevant Awards/Honors List all awards and honors submitted on your application. Literally all just debate stuff lmao NCFL LD national qualifier NSDA nations WSD double octofinals NSDA Academic all American Second alternate qualifier in LD Debate NSDA degree of superior discrimination Letters of Recommendation Debate coach of 4 years /2X teacher- definitely a very good rec, good relationship probably at least 8/10 Pysch teacher- only taught me once but we used to talk about current events and stuff probably a good rec may not be outstanding 6-7/10 Interviews Wake Forest- went well, we went about 15-20 minutes over time. Very conversational and we spent a decent amount of time talking about my Ap Research topic which is on voting and stuff. I did catch myself looking off to the side a bit tho so idk. 7/10 Essays Definitely a highlight, I think my essays were pretty good and at the very least unique Common app: Talked about my thoughts on learning and truth and the constant stream of questions that flow through my mind at all times. Spent a lot of time in this one and looking back on it there isn’t a whole lot I’d change. Supplements UNC: one was on samosas and the connection to my wide spread family the other was on the housing discrimination issue in my city. Both were good but could be improved on ngl. I spent a lot of time working on them though. NC state: Kinda twisted the question back- said the paradigm for creating inclusion was backwards. Wrote it in about an hour not my best work but definitely a different type of essay I’ll update this as I get RD decisions Decisions (indicate ED/EA/REA/SCEA/RD) Acceptances: UNC Chapel Hill(EA) NC State (EA) UofSC (EA)+undisclosed scholarship Waitlists: Rejections: RD: William and Mary George Washington Yale WUSTL Wake Forest
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/kgo7b0/accepted_mit_caltech_ea/ 这个算半个小中男，父母是华裔+白人，变性人，低收入，成绩老实说不怎么样，也没有大奖，课外活动不算突出。据自己说推荐信写得好 我也不太明白他怎么进了MIT加Caltech, 难道真的是因为自称是变性人？难道是因为低收入? MIT/Caltech 这浓眉大眼的也叛变革命了？ Demographics Gender: Trans guy Race/Ethnicity: Chinese/white Residence: Southern California Income Bracket: 30k-60k Type of School: Title I Public School Hooks (Recruited Athlete, URM, First-Gen, Geographic, Legacy, etc.): none Intended Major(s): applied physics / electrical engineering Academics GPA (UW/W): 3.87 UW | 4.17 W Rank (or percentile): 9/460ish # of Honors/AP/IB/Dual Enrollment/etc.: 8 APs total over 4 years, have taken a few classes at the local community college but nothing fancy this might seem like a kind of low number but is quite above average for my school, I don't think anyone has ever taken more than 10 APs total Senior Year Course Load: 2 APs, 1 Honors, also taking discrete math at local community college Standardized Testing SAT I: 1560 (760RW, 800M) SAT II: Math 2 (800), Physics (800), Chem (800), Chinese w/ Listening (790) AP/IB: Chem (5), World History (5), Physics 1 (5), Eng Lang (5), Spanish Lang (5), Calc AB (5), Env Sci (in progress), Calc BC (in progress) Extracurriculars/Activities & Awards/Honors Sorry for putting these into the same section, it was just easier. Science Bowl - captain of A team since 10th grade, maybe 15h/week?, earned 2nd place during 10th and 11th grade at a really competitive regionals (1st place team went on to top 4 at Nationals both years) USAAAO (Astronomy Olympiad) - scored top 20 nationwide, 10h/week? Science Olympiad - no super notable awards (nothing at State ever), a lot of individual medals at Regionals over the years though. Summer Science Program - 60h/wk for 5 weeks over the summer! was super fun! earned a kind of major award (was chosen for it out of 36 students) Ran a volunteering club (President in 12th, member in 10th-11th) - 5h/wk Tutoring, started March 2020 to help with family expenses during covid - 10h/wk Letters of Recommendation I saw the recommendations from #1 and #2 (they voluntarily gave it to me to read over before submitting) but not #3 or #4. My science competition coach - 9/10, said I was one of the top 5 he'd taught in his career (he's been teaching for 30+ years), emphasized the difficulty of a lot of the stuff I'd done throughout high school and essentially gave a play-by-play of all my achievements but in a pretty cool way My AP English Language teacher - 7/10, I really like him and I liked the rec but it was nothing spectacular, pretty short (<1 page) and focused on my personal and academic contributions to the class + how I handled academics along with tutoring people outside of school My college counselor - 8/10; to be clear, she's the college counselor working with a free college prep program that helps low-income kids in my area with applying to college. She said she talked about my less academic struggles throughout hs (financial, personal, etc) and she's written a lot of these letters for students who consistently end up at T20s so I trust that it was good. My research mentor at SSP - 6-9/10; I'm not going to guess as to what they wrote in my letter but SSP was an amazing experience and I like to think that I tried to contribute a lot to it as well, so hopefully they agreed! Interviews Caltech: no interview MIT: interview was just mediocre. I thought my interviewer was super cool and interesting, but we didn't "click" or anything, and we didn't delve into anything overly personal. We just talked about regular interview topics, it was pretty chill and lasted around the expected amount of time. I was really awkward in the beginning lol so it's nice to know that wasn't a dealbreaker. Essays Wrote my Caltech essays first, in a couple days. I didn't like them much tbh but at the time Caltech was very low priority; I just tried to use straightforward language and talk about things that were important to me. I would give them a strong 6/10 lol. Thank you Caltech for accepting me anyway. My MIT essays must have taken a month, but they were my favorite essays of any that I wrote. I feel like if someone asked me to hand them the most honest portrayal of myself, I would hand them my MIT essays lol. The hardest part was probably just deciding on the topics; after that it was pretty smooth sailing. And I found, surprisingly, that I did learn things about myself along the way, as they say you should. I don't want to hazard a guess as to how much the admissions committee liked my essays, but when I submitted them I felt like if they rejected me, I would be content with knowing they entirely knew who they were rejecting. So, to me, they were 10/10. Could've been 1/10 to the adcoms though lol My personal statement was about moving a lot as a child and never really having a sense of "home" but then settling down in one place (the neighborhood I live in now) and how those different perspectives affect the work I want to do in the future—that I want to benefit people across the globe but also strongly value having a tight-knit community to complete my work with. Decisions (indicate ED/EA/REA/SCEA/RD) Acceptances: Caltech MIT Waitlists: TBA Rejections: TBA Additional Information: I also applied to Stanford, Emory, UCSD, UCSB, UCLA, and UCB. Will update as those roll in :) Also I was pretty nervous about not having a ton of ECs or APs when I submitted my apps - I've never done a sport and I don't have an exorbitant number of service hours, my friends at other schools would be taking 8 APs a year instead of 8 APs over four years, and all my ECs are pretty narrowly focused on science. So I guess don't worry if you don't have 20 different ECs / didn't have any impressive ECs outside of what you focused on. It's different for different people ofc but I'm glad now that I just did the few activities I really enjoyed in hs instead of tacking on things that I wasn't interested in, but everyone else seemed to have changheruhailiu 发表于 2021-02-09 20:30
回复 1楼changheruhailiu的帖子https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/l9jp5b/perfect_sat_gpa_shawty_might_flee_the_country/ 这个是上中产家庭出身的白人女孩 SAT满分 GPA 4.0/4.72 （基本上高中四年全A) 11门AP 一堆课外活动，从政治到科学 被之大和MIT给Defer, 欧洲的学校倒是录取了一些，她个人说干脆去荷兰读大学吧 我觉得T5还是有可能的，等过段时间再看看 Demographics Gender: Female Race/Ethnicity: White Residence: Suburban Illinois Income Bracket: Upper middle class Type of School: Large, semi-competitive public Hooks (Recruited Athlete, URM, First-Gen, Geographic, Legacy, etc.): N/A Intended Major(s): Economics & Mathematics Academics GPA (UW/W): 4.0/4.72 Rank (or percentile): N/A but unofficially at least top 4% # of Honors/AP/IB/Dual Enrollment/etc.: 10 honors, 11 APs, 3 DE Senior Year Course Load: AP Comp Sci, AP Euro, AP Gov, AP Bio, AP English, DE Sociology, Film History Standardized Testing List the highest scores earned and all scores that were reported. SAT I: 1600 (800RW, 800M) ACT: N/A SAT II: Bio-E (770) AP/IB: US History (5), English Lang (5), Calc BC (5), Macro (5), Micro (4), French (3) Other (ex. IELTS, TOEFL, etc.): Extracurriculars/Activities List all extracurricular involvements, including leadership roles, time commitments, major achievements, etc. Political Campaign (11-12, Director of Regional Youth Branch) Science Olympiad (9-12, Officer Position) Math Team (9-12) Junior States of America (11-12, VP) Community Service-Oriented Backpacking Summer Program (9-10) Community Mental Health Initiative (11, Co-Founder) Selective Literature-Oriented Summer Program (11) Democratic Party Summer Internship (11) Volunteer at Bi-Annual Cultural Event (10-12) Awards/Honors List all awards and honors submitted on your application. National Merit Semi-Finalist Rensselaer Medal Local Essay Contest National Economics Essay Contest Cum Laude Society Letters of Recommendation Economics Teacher: We had good banter and I got above 100% on his final exam, so I''d say his letter was above average. (6/10) Pre-Calc Teacher/Math Team Coach: Love this lady almost as much as I loved pre-calculus! She''s like my second mom, we''ve known each other for years, so I think this letter was very good. (8/10) Interviews I interviewed for Harvard, MIT, Princeton, Claremont McKenna, Rice, Swarthmore, Bryn Mawr, and Mount Holyoke. Honestly, most of them felt pretty bland, except for my Harvard interview, which went amazingly. I demonstrated thorough interest in the school and major for all of them, though. Essays My personal statement was unique and well-written, centering around my personal rivalry with a famous author from my hometown. I thought it was funny, intellectual, and very me. I''d rate it at a (9/10), as writing is my strong suit. All of my supplements were well-written too, especially for UChicago, MIT, and Vanderbilt. Most focused on my passion for literature and my desire to apply economics to social issues. They probably ranged in quality from (6/10) to (10/10). Decisions (indicate ED/EA/REA/SCEA/RD) Acceptances: Erasmus University Rotterdam (The Netherlands) University of Amsterdam (The Netherlands) University of Glasgow (Scotland) University of St Andrews (Scotland) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (USA, 32k merit annually) University of Michigan LSA (USA) Waitlists/Deferrals: University of Chicago (USA) MIT (USA)
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/kgo7b0/accepted_mit_caltech_ea/ 这个算半个小中男，父母是华裔+白人，变性人，低收入，成绩老实说不怎么样，也没有大奖，课外活动不算突出。据自己说推荐信写得好 我也不太明白他怎么进了MIT加Caltech, 难道真的是因为自称是变性人？难道是因为低收入? MIT/Caltech 这浓眉大眼的也叛变革命了？ Demographics Gender: Trans guy Race/Ethnicity: Chinese/white Residence: Southern California Income Bracket: 30k-60k Type of School: Title I Public School Hooks (Recruited Athlete, URM, First-Gen, Geographic, Legacy, etc.): none Intended Major(s): applied physics / electrical engineering Academics GPA (UW/W): 3.87 UW | 4.17 W Rank (or percentile): 9/460ish # of Honors/AP/IB/Dual Enrollment/etc.: 8 APs total over 4 years, have taken a few classes at the local community college but nothing fancy this might seem like a kind of low number but is quite above average for my school, I don't think anyone has ever taken more than 10 APs total Senior Year Course Load: 2 APs, 1 Honors, also taking discrete math at local community college Standardized Testing SAT I: 1560 (760RW, 800M) SAT II: Math 2 (800), Physics (800), Chem (800), Chinese w/ Listening (790) AP/IB: Chem (5), World History (5), Physics 1 (5), Eng Lang (5), Spanish Lang (5), Calc AB (5), Env Sci (in progress), Calc BC (in progress) Extracurriculars/Activities & Awards/Honors Sorry for putting these into the same section, it was just easier. Science Bowl - captain of A team since 10th grade, maybe 15h/week?, earned 2nd place during 10th and 11th grade at a really competitive regionals (1st place team went on to top 4 at Nationals both years) USAAAO (Astronomy Olympiad) - scored top 20 nationwide, 10h/week? Science Olympiad - no super notable awards (nothing at State ever), a lot of individual medals at Regionals over the years though. Summer Science Program - 60h/wk for 5 weeks over the summer! was super fun! earned a kind of major award (was chosen for it out of 36 students) Ran a volunteering club (President in 12th, member in 10th-11th) - 5h/wk Tutoring, started March 2020 to help with family expenses during covid - 10h/wk Letters of Recommendation I saw the recommendations from #1 and #2 (they voluntarily gave it to me to read over before submitting) but not #3 or #4. My science competition coach - 9/10, said I was one of the top 5 he'd taught in his career (he's been teaching for 30+ years), emphasized the difficulty of a lot of the stuff I'd done throughout high school and essentially gave a play-by-play of all my achievements but in a pretty cool way My AP English Language teacher - 7/10, I really like him and I liked the rec but it was nothing spectacular, pretty short (<1 page) and focused on my personal and academic contributions to the class + how I handled academics along with tutoring people outside of school My college counselor - 8/10; to be clear, she's the college counselor working with a free college prep program that helps low-income kids in my area with applying to college. She said she talked about my less academic struggles throughout hs (financial, personal, etc) and she's written a lot of these letters for students who consistently end up at T20s so I trust that it was good. My research mentor at SSP - 6-9/10; I'm not going to guess as to what they wrote in my letter but SSP was an amazing experience and I like to think that I tried to contribute a lot to it as well, so hopefully they agreed! Interviews Caltech: no interview MIT: interview was just mediocre. I thought my interviewer was super cool and interesting, but we didn't "click" or anything, and we didn't delve into anything overly personal. We just talked about regular interview topics, it was pretty chill and lasted around the expected amount of time. I was really awkward in the beginning lol so it's nice to know that wasn't a dealbreaker. Essays Wrote my Caltech essays first, in a couple days. I didn't like them much tbh but at the time Caltech was very low priority; I just tried to use straightforward language and talk about things that were important to me. I would give them a strong 6/10 lol. Thank you Caltech for accepting me anyway. My MIT essays must have taken a month, but they were my favorite essays of any that I wrote. I feel like if someone asked me to hand them the most honest portrayal of myself, I would hand them my MIT essays lol. The hardest part was probably just deciding on the topics; after that it was pretty smooth sailing. And I found, surprisingly, that I did learn things about myself along the way, as they say you should. I don't want to hazard a guess as to how much the admissions committee liked my essays, but when I submitted them I felt like if they rejected me, I would be content with knowing they entirely knew who they were rejecting. So, to me, they were 10/10. Could've been 1/10 to the adcoms though lol My personal statement was about moving a lot as a child and never really having a sense of "home" but then settling down in one place (the neighborhood I live in now) and how those different perspectives affect the work I want to do in the future—that I want to benefit people across the globe but also strongly value having a tight-knit community to complete my work with. Decisions (indicate ED/EA/REA/SCEA/RD) Acceptances: Caltech MIT Waitlists: TBA Rejections: TBA Additional Information: I also applied to Stanford, Emory, UCSD, UCSB, UCLA, and UCB. Will update as those roll in :) Also I was pretty nervous about not having a ton of ECs or APs when I submitted my apps - I've never done a sport and I don't have an exorbitant number of service hours, my friends at other schools would be taking 8 APs a year instead of 8 APs over four years, and all my ECs are pretty narrowly focused on science. So I guess don't worry if you don't have 20 different ECs / didn't have any impressive ECs outside of what you focused on. It's different for different people ofc but I'm glad now that I just did the few activities I really enjoyed in hs instead of tacking on things that I wasn't interested in, but everyone else seemed to have changheruhailiu 发表于 2021-02-09 20:30
这个印度娃的事迹我请教了娃辩论教练，因为我娃说看不懂他写的是什么：
XXX不会看懂他说啥， 他那些语言跟斯坦福的Rich一样，绕圈子的，就是说他们没有什么真正的大奖， 比如他说WSD double Octofinal, WSD是我们说的Failure people's activities, 就是说， 比赛输了， 没进决赛， 去，WSD 消磨时间， 等着队友比完决赛用的， 然后他得了Double Octofinal, 在输的人里面他也是全美100名， 差到不能再差了。厉害，神吹，居然能有人录取他
初中2年学演讲基础，8年级才真正进入辩论，而且还要学逻辑/辩论哲学课，还有辩论写作，都是打基础
就是啊。这个应该是吹牛大神，也是本事
亚裔很广泛的，也许他家是反抗缅甸军政府逃出来九死一生的故事呢。大学就喜欢听故事。
URM是underrepresented minority, 少数族裔减掉亚裔 firstgen是第一代大学生，父母都没读过大学的 legacy一般是父母或祖父母，本科。有些学校对sibling也有点优先，故有half sibling 一说。不是每个学校都有。
很有可能，我认识这样一个人，以前从越南经广州逃难到美国，full ride 到Dartmouth。为啥呢，因为当年学校的一个奖学金是指明只能给越南难民。
这个印度男生和我儿子的profile 挺像， GPA 类似，+debate，但我儿子州大旗舰校Berkeley 和USC肯定进不去，难道是不如他能吹？ 印度人能吹，真是从小培养。
我儿子也是呀，看来就是要吹
应该不只是能吹的问题。印度裔在美国tech届的影响力大。同样的两个亚裔，肯定先考虑印度亚裔。何况美国的大环境对中国不友好，有戒心。虽然孩子都是美国人， 哎...
同意，性取向放在申请profile 里，太low。 不过我和孩子爸爸在review 时，看到孩子自觉自愿地填了straight, 还是很欣慰
各个学校不同，很多高中就有。如果高中不开也可以去community college上
personal essay可以提及父母生意失败，影响生计，一边打工一边念书，还能维持好成绩
这个逆境就自己随便编编还是得有证明啊
当然是根据你家的税表。公司（餐馆）倒闭和个人资产收入没有关系。你是不是低收入，看看你家小孩要不要申请学校的免费午餐就知道了。没必要为hook个低收入，把自家真强掰成低收入吧！
斯坦福杯全国邀请赛的决赛第四名 这个奖非常不错。
想瞎掰的还是省省吧。。。你要是真正见过几个逆境里自己自立自强，维持好成绩的孩子，会为自己这种想法汗颜的。
当然是得根据事实真得去打工，而且申请financial aid时，家底都被摸得一清二楚
是，各种吃亏。哭着走开了。。。。。
我家预产期10月的男娃，非要赶到8月初生，上学就正常啦，一直瘦小排倒数，心智不成熟呀
同意。这边长大的孩子，还真不会为申请大学写作，瞎掰出个“逆境”或者LGBT. 一个申请季，写20-30篇申请文章，如果不是真实的，能从头骗到尾，那会是什么样的心里素质！
guy不是随便claim就是的。gay有可能糊弄guy没办法
层主你调皮了。。。话说回来，女的为什么不能claim to be a guy...
其实我丝毫不怀疑有人会这样做，每个人选择不同，大多数华人华裔还是比较善良的。
以前有报道某地的富裕家庭为了得到大学学费资助，专门找律师办手续断绝亲子关系，这样上大学的孩子从法律上就算是被遗弃的孤儿，可以拿到资助。不记得后来怎么处理的了，好像法庭调查过，最后不了了之？
如果有印度人钻这个空子，我也不会奇怪。很多高中里印度人作弊成风。
不是吧，这些人不是认为区别对待是歧视，单独厕所是segregation吗？
FINANCIAL AID LOOPHOLE Parents Are Giving Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid First, parents turn over guardianship of their teenagers to a friend or relative. Then the student declares financial independence to qualify for tuition aid and scholarships.
哈哈哈。好像lgbt里面还真有一款是你对自己认知的性别和真实性别不一样。我忘记具体名称是啥了。那种还真的可以claim自己是guy。😄但是那位层主显然是typo啦，我跟他开个小玩笑
没有考虑多读一年k吗？
现在看看相比之下周围的华二代加州娃好像录的都不错
我们在二线高中，好像大部分录的是公校UCB/UCLA，私校WUSL这个级别的
当然专业不保证。好专业不容易
没有，他还算比较聪明，学习都跟的上，没听说还能多读一年的，学区说上什么就去上了什么。
不好意思不小心点到了踩 好像没法撤销 抱歉！
这个成绩很牛啊！science bowl, 还有usaaao都是national级别的奖，被这两个学校录取也很正常
他参加的SSP也是非常厉害的的summer camp
GPA水分太大了，有的学校inflation很厉害，但这个ACT才29，跟4.0的GPA根本不不match，拿了4堂AP课但也没看出有没有参加AP考试，没报考试成绩。
实际上家底是摸不清楚的。
私企雇员规模在一百（还是一百五十）以下是不计算在内的。
家里私企能雇员一百的是啥级别自己想吧。。
这个因为是在questbridge这个pool里，学校成绩很好，很多AP，
没有任何奖和文体，艺术特长，不可能去T5.前20的大学.
上心的家长都能看出她没亮点，除了学习好点，不需要中介包装，AO也的有料才能包
这个是目前看到的最强的了。天文竞赛，SSP仅次于RSI，Science Olympiad/Bowl，再加上低收入，是不是trans都可以进的
因为T5的学生都这个学习成绩，人家还有大奖，文体加持，你说T5干嘛要她.
不要这样说. 我知道上T5都是学习超级好.
是的，在校学习成绩很好，但就是怕比，别的MIT申请人有竞赛奖项，或者科研项目/夏令营，或者强EC，就被比下去了
T5 基本这样. 和我们国内一样啊. 普通学生能上清华？家长需要发抖吗？感觉楼里人好夸张.
是啊. 这楼里都大惊小怪的. 都是年轻家长吗？
有啥好汗颜的？第一代移民老留什么逆境没见过没经历过，说得好像你家里几代贵族没见过穷人似的😂
问题现在去好大学的很多都不是顶尖牛人，除非衡量顶尖牛人的标准是看性别或者收入。其实想开了也无所谓，这就是美国的规则，人生路长，孩子们没有命像我们一样能够比较公平的去好的大学，但是美国机会多，以后赚钱路上好专业重要的多得多。
最后很难定论，专业，情商，健康，际遇，有没有踩到狗屎找了猪队友，原生家庭等等很多很多因素。
国内上清华基本只看高考吧，除了特招的。全国统考排分数，杜绝了一切老师给的分数或严，学校都是牛人curve 很吃亏等等。按美国这个录取方式，你以为省理科班的能全班北清复交科啊！
这不是讨论学习好，但是因为种族性别家境甚至住哪里等等因素，去不了top school 吗？无所谓的，州大的好专业已经够好。一定纠结名牌，再去读个1年硕士刷个学历就好了。就是以后这么左下去，好学区的房子慢慢会贬值，没有意义了，因为二线高中可能录取更好。
现在就是这么搞笑的。所以公司里，一堆好学校的水平不如州大的，以后会原来越是这样。
超市收银啊，餐馆厨房帮工啊，装修铺地版啊，甚至底层会计bookeeper 也就三万多一年
确实，我家孩子申请时，我开玩笑说要不你声称自己属于LGBTQ吧，其他你没法靠上去，人家正色说，这怎么可以撒谎！
他是first generation申请大学啊，父母都没读过大学，这个算hook，很重要。所以说我们华人版上基本90％在这方面都给孩子拖后腿了，别说博士了，好歹大家都至少读过大学本科。
研究生毕业怎么还能算first gen 楼上做梦呢
firstgen指你的孩子是第一代申请大学的。父母都没读过大学。华人版上大部分家庭都没戏。
请大家集思广益，如何才能将自己变得穷笨坏，给孩子一个逆境环境？
具体到我自己孩子，我当然希望ta一直顺顺利利无忧无虑，上不上top大学反倒无所谓了。
太天真了！去reddit上看看有多少孩子说自己同学编造EC进好大学的，还有不造假，但把1说成10的。
不都是编的，但编成产业的也有的。这个还上过新闻。
T5从比例上来说比清华难吧
呵呵，课外活动，做了1分，有了5分的感悟，写出10分的申请文章，算你牛，藤就要你。如果是普通中产，硬掰成领救济，住shelter, 那就是作弊，和以上1分变10分完全是两回事。
恭喜啊！男孩子搞体育身材好，学cs以后赚的多，我要是当妈的肯定笑醒了
举个栗子，如果你参加2个小时BLM游行，你干巴巴写了你参加2小时社区活动，就是1分；如果你写到，你视BLM为民族大义，痛陈历史，列举了活动组织的利弊，放眼国际国内形势，励志为此奋斗终身，就是10分。“藤“校需要看到的就是你的潜力和领导力，你的引申升华。这是造假吗？显然不是。 BLM不代表本人的政治观点，这是举个易于理解的例子。
而且，和我家心态”稚嫩”的高中男生完全没办法沟通这件事，人家完全是“本色“写作，是一，决不会提升到二，甚至还感觉没做好，只写到0.5。看来，提高孩子的思想，观念和表现力，要从小抓起，否则，在申学，就业，甚至婚姻市场，都会比较被动。扯远了，见笑
原来看到有人钻法律空子（好像主要是白人，犹太人，律师，会计师，企业主）：
父母假离婚，说在打离婚官司，18岁以上的孩子不管了，先交给亲戚做监护人（guardianship), 随后孩子可以宣布独立，这样按法律小孩上大学就不需要看父母的收入，只看他本人的收入，这样就可以拿很多资助（本来制度设计给穷人的）。这种不是自己宣布就行，需要去法院走正式程序 高收入的父母也可以根据孩子的情况要不太好的高中，把孩子放到贫民区的学校，鹤立鸡群，进行逆境教育 听说有的父母家里明明有钱，但是他们会瞒着孩子。让孩子觉得自己家很穷，很多孩子到高中对父母挣多少钱只有模糊的概念，很多人到11，12年级才问
总的来说，就是想钻空子也不是没有成本的，钻空子的父母要冒风险，做出情感，道德方面的牺牲。男孩如果身体不错可以考虑送去军队锻炼一下，也许有意外收获。
是啊，我问孩子会不会有人冒充LGBTQ申请大学，她也是义正辞严地说这样会被别人看不起的。
我认识trans的人，从小都非常痛苦，被bully，各种内心挣扎。真的是没必要去羡慕这个hook。而且大学录取并不是只看某一点（比如LGBTQ，比如低收入），一定是整体的package，综合考量。
父母没上过大学的确实孩子的资源少了很多，功课没人辅导，没有人脉关系给孩子挂名发文章lab做实验大公司实习，很多孩子还要帮着父母照顾家庭打工什么的。低收入的没有余粮送孩子参加各种课外班，体育活动。。。
没上过大学的父母勤恳工作自立更生，也是给孩子竖立好榜样啊！
这个要看个人情况，去竞争激烈的“好学区”不适合所有的孩子。
我个人理解：
不要太看重孩子被哪个大学录取，学校真的没有那么重要。孩子成长本来就有很多压力，父母人到中年也有各种危机，自己就很焦虑，不要因此影响了孩子 特别要明白的，中美情况不同，不是简单的“学而优则仕”，要看各方面的综合素质，包括成年人独立设定目标，做出重要选择，努力坚持，承受压力的能力 这里还没有讨论的是，名校里亚裔孩子的心理压力很大，有一定比例的孩子抑郁甚至严重到自杀的。这个就涉及孩子人生观的根本问题了
人生就是不停寻找平衡，要努力又不能太焦虑。其实比上大学更难也更重要的是如何认识自己，了解自己，知道自己想做什么。培养孩子最成功的结果是： 孩子的心态，承受压力的能力，坚持不懈的品格，对自己的信心，乐观的态度，悲天悯人的胸怀
这个属实，有的孩子确实有动力有能力
没错。大学录取向低收入和一代大学生倾斜，还是很合理的。这些孩子没什么资源，平时除了学业还要帮家里分担生活压力，能做到学业优秀真的不容易，也是有潜力的孩子。 我们小时候，教师家庭或者知识分子家庭重视教育，小孩子上大学的比例很高；但也有一些家庭父母只有小学毕业，做点小生意，对孩子的学业完全不管。小孩子课余还要帮父母干活，小卖部看店啦，集市上卖菜啦，小饭店刷碗啦…就这样也有孩子学习不错，上了不错的大学。因为家里没有能力支持，全靠自己摸索，所以这些孩子的自我规划和做决策的能力很强。二十年后，真有不少比当年的top学生混得更好。
大多数first gen还是去了大公校—— 我硕士和博士不同program一开始做TA的时候老师都介绍说：我们绝大部分学生都是first gen，家里没书桌的，blahblah...