A plug was loose after a contractor "accidentally removed it while cleaning," according to the VA spokesperson. The freezer was in "a secure location" and had an alarm system installed. An investigation is underway to determine the cause of the incident and why the monitoring and alarm system didn't work. Replenishment doses are in process, the spokesperson said, and the VA does not "foresee disruption of our vaccination effort." 有Alarm system都没报警,这个alarm system是摆样子的吗?都没测试过?
CNBC News: CDC Changes Vaccine Guidance to Ok Mixing $PFE, $MRNA- CNBC 就是朝三暮四继续耍猴玩,之前疫苗乱分配,出现第二剂不足,现在干脆允许辉瑞和Moderna混着打,应付一天是一天。反正CDC就是金口玉言,不管怎么改Guideline,它永远是对的,下面的为了免责就还是只能照着指南做 我这边的消息, NVAX的三期临床,包括了一万五千英国人,四千南非的,一万一千美国的人。65岁以上有数千人。他们 很快会有初步结果。到时候就知道对英国和南非变异有没有效果了。不管有没有效果,继续物理防护,带好N95口罩 另外,Biden准备大赦学术界和中国有关人员 ,并在今年和中国主席进行国事面谈。都是快讯 DOJ WEIGHS AMNESTY FOR ACADEMICS TO DISCLOSE FOREIGN FUNDING:DJ *Beijing Hopes to Explore a Xi-Biden Summit Soon -- Sources” 如果这些消息最后成真的话,今年夏天应该可以中美欧交通恢复正常,我又可以到处飞了
jerrydelmar 发表于 2021-01-22 15:21
In rare circumstances, it’s OK for people to receive one shot of Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine and one shot of Moderna’s vaccine at least 28 days apart, the CDC said in updated guidance. The CDC says the two products are not interchangeable. 所以只是在极少情况下。。。。。当然了,开了这个大门,以后怎么样很难说
A plug was loose after a contractor "accidentally removed it while cleaning," according to the VA spokesperson. The freezer was in "a secure location" and had an alarm system installed. An investigation is underway to determine the cause of the incident and why the monitoring and alarm system didn't work. Replenishment doses are in process, the spokesperson said, and the VA does not "foresee disruption of our vaccination effort." 有Alarm system都没报警,这个alarm system是摆样子的吗?都没测试过? 庚子 发表于 2021-01-22 15:47
A plug was loose after a contractor "accidentally removed it while cleaning," according to the VA spokesperson. The freezer was in "a secure location" and had an alarm system installed. An investigation is underway to determine the cause of the incident and why the monitoring and alarm system didn't work. Replenishment doses are in process, the spokesperson said, and the VA does not "foresee disruption of our vaccination effort." 有Alarm system都没报警,这个alarm system是摆样子的吗?都没测试过? 庚子 发表于 2021-01-22 15:47
问题是临床试验做过了没?混着打之后这疫苗到底有多强的保护作用?有什么副作用?两眼一抹黑CDC就敢来这出,太拍脑袋了吧。 最重要的是这句—— The agency acknowledged that it hadn’t yet studied whether its new recommendations would change the safety or effectiveness of either vaccine.
问题是临床试验做过了没?混着打之后这疫苗到底有多强的保护作用?有什么副作用?两眼一抹黑CDC就敢来这出,太拍脑袋了吧。 最重要的是这句—— The agency acknowledged that it hadn’t yet studied whether its new recommendations would change the safety or effectiveness of either vaccine. coalpilerd 发表于 2021-01-22 16:18
现在这种情况下的临床试验。。。 本来就是test in production呀 (不过你是对的,测一下比较好)
CDC quietly changes Covid vaccine guidance to OK mixing Pfizer and Moderna shots in ‘exceptional situations’ In rare circumstances, it’s OK for people to receive one shot of Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine and one shot of Moderna’s vaccine at least 28 days apart, the CDC said in updated guidance. The agency says the two products are not interchangeable. The CDC acknowledged that it hadn’t yet studied whether its new recommendations would change the safety or effectiveness of either vaccine.
CDC quietly changes Covid vaccine guidance to OK mixing Pfizer and Moderna shots in ‘exceptional situations’ In rare circumstances, it’s OK for people to receive one shot of Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine and one shot of Moderna’s vaccine at least 28 days apart, the CDC said in updated guidance. The agency says the two products are not interchangeable. The CDC acknowledged that it hadn’t yet studied whether its new recommendations would change the safety or effectiveness of either vaccine.
surge 发表于 2021-01-22 18:13
我对疫苗还是有信心的,我就是对CDC没信心。疫情伊始到如今,CDC干成过一件事儿吗,LZ的贴也不过就是再度证实了CDC里都是一群猪脑袋而已。一边说混疫苗it is OK,一边承认混疫苗的后果未知…… 看看人家以色列那效率。
欧洲现在逐步开始要求带医用及以上级别的口罩上街了,普通口罩无效的。希望能控制住 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europe-coronavirus-masks-regulations/2021/01/20/23463c08-5a74-11eb-a849-6f9423a75ffd_story.html “Germany on Tuesday night made it mandatory for people riding on public transport or in supermarkets to wear medical style masks: either N95s, the Chinese or European equivalent KN95 or FFP2s, or a surgical mask. It follows a stricter regulation from the German state of Bavaria this week that required N95 equivalents in stores and on public transport. Austria will introduce the same measures from Monday.” 我自己觉得这个如果能彻底实施,要比疫苗更有效。病毒再怎么变异,也是内部基因变异,外部的物理直径变不了。所以N95能有效控制传播.可以观察一下几个月后的数据,再和以色列的疫苗数据对比,看实际效果 jerrydelmar 发表于 2021-01-22 21:11
这是利好啊 另外,Biden准备大赦学术界和中国有关人员 ,并在今年和中国主席进行国事面谈。都是快讯 DOJ WEIGHS AMNESTY FOR ACADEMICS TO DISCLOSE FOREIGN FUNDING:DJ *Beijing Hopes to Explore a Xi-Biden Summit Soon -- Sources” zerohedgeNY 发表于 2021-01-22 15:23
坦白從寬 得坦白才行啊 Justice Department officials are weighing an amnesty program under which U.S. academics could disclose past foreign funding without fear of punishment for their disclosures, according to people familiar with the matter.
A plug was loose after a contractor "accidentally removed it while cleaning," according to the VA spokesperson. The freezer was in "a secure location" and had an alarm system installed. An investigation is underway to determine the cause of the incident and why the monitoring and alarm system didn't work. Replenishment doses are in process, the spokesperson said, and the VA does not "foresee disruption of our vaccination effort." 有Alarm system都没报警,这个alarm system是摆样子的吗?都没测试过? 庚子 发表于 2021-01-22 15:47
🔥 最新回帖
LZ怎么砍楼呢
这个靠谱的话,好事啊!
你要是看Dr Fauci 前几天的讲话,他就是说英国变种现在的两个疫苗都应该有效,但南非的不知道。没有人像你说那样用嘴皮子吹。
这个,两只mrna疫苗都没有自吹对南非的变异有效。。。。。只是德州大学的研究者发现pfizer对英国的变异依旧有效
冷鏈的建立與協調是不容易
一台上萬美元
🛋️ 沙发板凳
爆呗,好奇听听。。
Biden可以接锅,这🈶️啥的。。。 话都是嘴说的。。
新闻有啊 https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/nearly-2000-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-spoil-in-jp/2284831/
美国华人想回国投毒,门都没有。
ok,麻州,不是我们德州就好,现在不够打的。。。
还会的,尤其疫苗不如预期时,
要是疫苗好用,都是 现任的功劳,
这就是 现实!!
这里 LA 现在正在给 65岁以上打,俺想帮父母拿 appointment 根本拿不到。
听说有很多后门啊,美国居然也有后门。
In rare circumstances, it’s OK for people to receive one shot of Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine and one shot of Moderna’s vaccine at least 28 days apart, the CDC said in updated guidance.
The CDC says the two products are not interchangeable.
所以只是在极少情况下。。。。。当然了,开了这个大门,以后怎么样很难说
啊对
记得以前-80冰箱门没关紧都要警报大响
看见是VA,不奇怪啊。
也许也能找出先进方法呢?也许灭活也能和mRNA捆绑?
每次看到这种新闻都觉得难以置信,从分配呼吸机到deliver疫苗,到处都一团混乱,还有新闻说有些人预约打疫苗,结果到时候不去,白白浪费。
65+这就是后门啊 佛州搞这个之后不少有关系都都跑到佛州去打疫苗了= =
怎么都是这样呢?
polio灭活和减毒就能混着打 有啥的
有副作用吗?
我们这边有医院的护士说,他们打疫苗有每天500人的slot,但是上周末每天只来了200人。与此同时网上还有很多人complain说预约疫苗的电话贼难打。真是一团糟。
yeah 同意
问题是临床试验做过了没?混着打之后这疫苗到底有多强的保护作用?有什么副作用?两眼一抹黑CDC就敢来这出,太拍脑袋了吧。
最重要的是这句——
The agency acknowledged that it hadn’t yet studied whether its new recommendations would change the safety or effectiveness of either vaccine.
还没轮到吧,因为监狱犯人优先,在等等,
现在这种情况下的临床试验。。。
本来就是test in production呀
(不过你是对的,测一下比较好)
都是大众副作用,还没有第二针,下周第二针,
那没办法..
前阵子不是说联邦不再hold第二针, 全部发下去打掉嘛 必然的结果啊..
现在又不是让人人都混着打, 只不过总有第二针不够的时候
啥?为啥监狱人优先?
有几个州,包括我们加州,都是脑残,就是强调公平,浪费掉也要给正确的group打。真tm浪费时间和资源。
你确定不是倒卖疫苗?美国这边还有人动冰箱插头?
因为人口密度大,不可能保持社交距离……监狱都是重灾区。
楼主想多了,不说别的,美国现在几乎人人带毒,是不可能随便让你回国的
陈刚倒在黎明前?
川普自始至终就没有制定过疫苗分配方案,拜登上台才几天?https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox61.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/biden-vaccine-covid-19-yale-new-haven-hospital-shortage/520-9021ff42-43e7-4317-a653-f22339f5a2fd
佛州要看驾照了,太多人去把疫苗用光了
所以,现在打了 ~2千万是 Biden 遥控的 ?
有点 common sense 不好吗 ?
你以为各个医院跟药厂订购都需要通过川普?理解你护主心切
不需要,为啥懒 trump,你逻辑是啥 ?
这事本来就是 联邦供货,各地安排,CDC 是定 guideline的那个,比如谁优先,怎么排队等等,具体接种还是各州,各地方。那种cheap hit 新闻 就是耍你这样 啥事都往政治上靠的!
正因为没有plan,所以各自为政,所以打得慢。很难理解吗
看了LA 的疫苗实施计划, 真的是极差
美国的政府部门, 大部分是白痴, 唉
神奇的CDC
其实翻译有问题 派出所和监狱都翻译成了监狱
那种派出所类型的 里面的inmate进进出出流动性极高 基本上就是个毒窝炸弹
不怎么流动的长期监狱其实还好
不能更赞同!
CDC quietly changes Covid vaccine guidance to OK mixing Pfizer and Moderna shots in ‘exceptional situations’
In rare circumstances, it’s OK for people to receive one shot of Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine and one shot of Moderna’s vaccine at least 28 days apart, the CDC said in updated guidance. The agency says the two products are not interchangeable. The CDC acknowledged that it hadn’t yet studied whether its new recommendations would change the safety or effectiveness of either vaccine.
不管这些魍魉怎么叫唤,美国还是朝自己的目标前进,现在每天1百万人了,很快就会150万人打疫苗。沙包和它的罗罗们筹码越来越少,瞧它们急得。
再磨叽,谁知道这病毒会变异成什么了。其实大范围打了,也不知道这病毒会变异成什么了。
cdc 这次疫情的表现真的不敢恭维,朝三暮四地。强烈怀疑他们是第五纵队的,派来害川普的。
同时休斯顿一个医生贪污了9针疫苗就被开除,还可能会丢执照。。。
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-doctor-accused-stealing-vial-covid-19-vaccines-n1255281
结果这个医院做事马虎一下子浪费了1900针。。。也就是说可能会有1-2个人会因为这个马虎导致没能得到疫苗而冤死。。。汉。这其实应该算一个sentinel event, 需要做个root cause analysis。这种failure绝大部分不只是一个人的错误。
买
我对疫苗还是有信心的,我就是对CDC没信心。疫情伊始到如今,CDC干成过一件事儿吗,LZ的贴也不过就是再度证实了CDC里都是一群猪脑袋而已。一边说混疫苗it is OK,一边承认混疫苗的后果未知……
看看人家以色列那效率。
同意!说CDC是一群猪都是在侮辱猪这种生物!
我对这种口罩令的可行性存疑。一般人如果都按照医生的标准戴N95,这产能跟不上啊。
Y就是一大傻X!
就是这样,分到私人公司效率立马上来
早打完早解放,唱衰疫苗的自己还在抓紧打
所以也别对什么都失去信心,新闻只所以称为新闻就是因为不常见
这个没show数据,是一半标题
KN95亚洲产东欧产的多得是
不要让别人show data, 结果自己只敢show一半标题。我也不是CDC的粉,这次抗疫他们的确让我失望。但批评要实事求是。把媒体的标题掐一半,这算什么?
he is looking up USA, just like most of people who just come in ..
if living here >10 years, people will look straight ..
私人企业是共和党支持的啊,民主党可能就是利用人性的弱点养票仓社会主义了。
即便是exceptional situation也不对,生物制剂,不同厂商生产的成分和工艺都完全不同,怎么可以混用? 你以为买洗衣液?
那也不是把标题掐一半的理由
哎呀,还没囤3M的
两针隔一个月,不是配溶液...我也同意开这个口子冒更大的险。
同样在南加,怀疑有插队打疫苗的,听朋友说他们朋友圈有人已经打完第一针,应该不是医护工作,也不是65岁以上。朋友问了其中一个怎么申请的,对方说公司安排的
请检举。
坦白從寬 得坦白才行啊
Justice Department officials are weighing an amnesty program under which U.S. academics could disclose past foreign funding without fear of punishment for their disclosures, according to people familiar with the matter.
我们就有一次custodian清理地面把freezer插头拔了就没插回去!所以看了这个也不惊讶。。。
但是这个傻X在竞选的时候天天嚷嚷他已经分配好了,计划很详细....😥他整个就是一无能的谎话连篇的轮子!
现在发放疫苗的志愿者,好像四天起,也可以先打。另外还有一些企业,比如肉类加工,什么的可以打。我认识的是医院的会计在家上班的也全家打了。