You are likely right but never say never though. For an example, someone could be cashing out points from City Nationa Bank credit card points converted to Amazon giftcards then sell them with 15% discount. I have also seen store promotions got out of hand, I remeber getting 50% off giftcards from GUCCI/LULU/COACH/BURBERRY/MICHAEL KORS and Williams Sonoma directly from stores in a SIMMONS mall. They ran it only for 2 months and I didn''''t know they were popular then so I only bought what I needed but ended up selling those.
You are likely right but never say never though. For an example, someone could be cashing out points from City Nationa Bank credit card points converted to Amazon giftcards then sell them with 15% discount. I have also seen store promotions got out of hand, I remeber getting 50% off giftcards from GUCCI/LULU/COACH/BURBERRY/MICHAEL KORS and Williams Sonoma directly from stores in a SIMMONS mall. They ran it only for 2 months and I didn''''''''''''''''t know they were popular then so I only bought what I needed but ended up selling those. yolandos 发表于 2021-01-18 18:01
I said never say never. LZ 也没有说多少。 It could be 5K, it could be less or more. Selling 3K amazon at 85% is unlikely because there is market for 93% but you can''''t just say 15% off is 100% a scam. I let go all those LULU/GUCCI... cards I mentioned above at 75% because I got them 50+% off and I didn''''t bother go finding a better price. I had 1K amazon cards from City National Bank too at 70% too due to sign up bonus so 85% is not unthinkable. I still agree with you if is a large amount then very likely it is a scam (like, over 3K) Oh, by the way, LZ I would bite if they allow you to purchase with a US CC because then you can always charge back if it is a scam.
I said never say never. LZ 也没有说多少。 It could be 5K, it could be less or more. Selling 3K amazon at 85% is unlikely because there is market for 93% but you can''''t just say 15% off is 100% a scam. I let go all those LULU/GUCCI... cards I mentioned above at 75% because I got them 50+% off and I didn''''t bother go finding a better price. I had 1K amazon cards from City National Bank too at 70% too due to sign up bonus so 85% is not unthinkable. I still agree with you if is a large amount then very likely it is a scam (like, over 3K) Oh, by the way, LZ I would bite if they allow you to purchase with a US CC because then you can always charge back if it is a scam. yolandos 发表于 2021-01-18 19:04
If I had known he is likely a thief of course I won''t. 15% doesn''''t necessary mean the seller is a thief because he/she is still believeable. 15-30% off with a large amount then I won''t be buying. Common sense. Rember LZ didn''t initially say how much or how long it will take for the cards to arrive. BTW, you example only flys if the guy is getting huge discounts on giftcards and repeatly using it as target. I doubt he is only getting 15% off. We have seen people getting 20% off on target giftcards even in this forum (buy $100 giftcarrd and getting an addtional $25 card). So your target GC example doesn''t apply to this case here.
If I had known he is likely a thief of course I won''t. 15% doesn''''t necessary mean the seller is a thief because he/she is still believeable. 15-30% off with a large amount then I won''t be buying. Common sense. Rember LZ didn''t initially say how much or how long it will take for the cards to arrive. BTW, you example only flys if the guy is getting huge discounts on giftcards and repeatly using it as target. I doubt he is only getting 15% off. We have seen people getting 20% off on target giftcards even in this forum (buy $100 giftcarrd and getting an addtional $25 card). So your target GC example doesn''t apply to this case here. yolandos 发表于 2021-01-18 19:46
都跟你说了，非theft的靠谱来源的amazon gc可以卖到95折左右，一般是93-96折。那些什么gucci的好像更低一下，大概85折。如果你上家的amazon gift card是靠谱渠道的，他就能卖95折，他为啥95折不卖非要85折卖给你呢？你长的特别好看？ Anyway, 这种事情，最后提醒你一下，看在大家上同一个论坛的份上，这种买个几千块就算了，就算警察查到你了，估计也懒的管你，但是要是量大必被抓。
都跟你说了，非theft的靠谱来源的amazon gc可以卖到95折左右，一般是93-96折。那些什么gucci的好像更低一下，大概85折。如果你上家的amazon gift card是靠谱渠道的，他就能卖95折，他为啥95折不卖非要85折卖给你呢？你长的特别好看？ Anyway, 这种事情，最后提醒你一下，看在大家上同一个论坛的份上，这种买个几千块就算了，就算警察查到你了，估计也懒的管你，但是要是量大必被抓。 goodluck23 发表于 2021-01-18 19:54
I don''t understand why you are arguing with me. We are saying the same thing. The OP didn''t say how much the seller was selling or any other terms. The only thing he/she said was 15% off. You said it must be a scam and I said you are likely right but it isn''t necessary a scam and I gave you my reason. Now that the terms are posted of course I won''t buy these because it is now obvious. I know the market price of amazon giftcards. Sometime people sell at a steeper discount for a reason. For an example, maybe he is not well informed. Lots of people are not well informeded on giftcards or vouchers. There are people on this forum who thought that those Hilton Free Night vouchers from AMEX are only worth $125 a piece even though the market price for those are around $250 (because they can be used during weekdays too nowadays). Anyway, stay informed and don''t fall for scams and just ignore me.
I don''t understand why you are arguing with me. We are saying the same thing. The OP didn''t say how much the seller was selling or any other terms. The only thing he/she said was 15% off. You said it must be a scam and I said you are likely right but it isn''t necessary a scam and I gave you my reason. Now that the terms are posted of course I won''t buy these because it is now obvious. I know the market price of amazon giftcards. Sometime people sell at a steeper discount for a reason. For an example, maybe he is not well informed. Lots of people are not well informeded on giftcards or vouchers. There are people on this forum who thought that those Hilton Free Night vouchers from AMEX are only worth $125 a piece even though the market price for those are around $250 (because they can be used during weekdays too nowadays). Anyway, stay informed and don''t fall for scams and just ignore me. yolandos 发表于 2021-01-18 20:13
You are likely right but never say never though. For an example, someone could be cashing out points from City Nationa Bank credit card points converted to Amazon giftcards then sell them with 15% discount. I have also seen store promotions got out of hand, I remeber getting 50% off giftcards from GUCCI/LULU/COACH/BURBERRY/MICHAEL KORS and Williams Sonoma directly from stores in a SIMMONS mall. They ran it only for 2 months and I didn''''t know they were popular then so I only bought what I needed but ended up selling those. yolandos 发表于 2021-01-18 18:01
I don''t understand why you are arguing with me. We are saying the same thing. The OP didn''t say how much the seller was selling or any other terms. The only thing he/she said was 15% off. You said it must be a scam and I said you are likely right but it isn''t necessary a scam and I gave you my reason. Now that the terms are posted of course I won''t buy these because it is now obvious. I know the market price of amazon giftcards. Sometime people sell at a steeper discount for a reason. For an example, maybe he is not well informed. Lots of people are not well informeded on giftcards or vouchers. There are people on this forum who thought that those Hilton Free Night vouchers from AMEX are only worth $125 a piece even though the market price for those are around $250 (because they can be used during weekdays too nowadays). Anyway, stay informed and don''t fall for scams and just ignore me. yolandos 发表于 2021-01-18 20:13
你这属于理解能力太差，还质问别人为啥要跟你争。。。小量GC便宜走当然有可能，不过你觉得那个卖家费这么多周折转几道弯的找人买，就为了几十几百甚至几千块？如果我有几千块来路清白的85折Amazon gc, 我随便在亲近的朋友里吆喝一声，分分钟没了，这种好deal 还不是要靠抢的？common sense
你这属于理解能力太差，还质问别人为啥要跟你争。。。小量GC便宜走当然有可能，不过你觉得那个卖家费这么多周折转几道弯的找人买，就为了几十几百甚至几千块？如果我有几千块来路清白的85折Amazon gc, 我随便在亲近的朋友里吆喝一声，分分钟没了，这种好deal 还不是要靠抢的？common sense twincity 发表于 2021-01-18 21:35
Well looking back, my mistake was 没意识到国内网站可以这么搞的. well my bad. I should have stuck to what I know. I for one will never bother these 5-6% off amazon cards as I do not run a business. Getting 5% off on amazon giftcards and losing on CC extended warranty on a purchase simply is not worthy of my time. But then again what the heck do I know. Y''all running some biz to skim off discounted amazon cards? It seemed like I am the only idiot in the room not realizing this involves potential millions dollars worth of amazon giftcards.
well I stand corrected, I didn't know this involves over 10 million usd worth of giftcards. everyone else seemed to know without the OP mentioning the amount.
为了85折不太值。
You are likely right but never say never though. For an example, someone could be cashing out points from City Nationa Bank credit card points converted to Amazon giftcards then sell them with 15% discount. I have also seen store promotions got out of hand, I remeber getting 50% off giftcards from GUCCI/LULU/COACH/BURBERRY/MICHAEL KORS and Williams Sonoma directly from stores in a SIMMONS mall. They ran it only for 2 months and I didn''''t know they were popular then so I only bought what I needed but ended up selling those.
我不知道你想说啥，我自己也搞过8折的amazon gc，比如用points 或者amex offer，但是这些都是少量啊，搞个几百块不得了。 但是你从第三方手里买的，如果不是95折左右，就说明是有问题的。为啥，因为来源正规的amazon gc是可以卖到这个价的，低于这个价肯定是来源不正。当然了，就算95折也不一定说明来源就正规。 当然自己搞95折amazkn gc也不难，所以我也懒得去买，我自己也宁愿直接用自己credit card，不折腾了。
I said never say never. LZ 也没有说多少。 It could be 5K, it could be less or more. Selling 3K amazon at 85% is unlikely because there is market for 93% but you can''''t just say 15% off is 100% a scam. I let go all those LULU/GUCCI... cards I mentioned above at 75% because I got them 50+% off and I didn''''t bother go finding a better price. I had 1K amazon cards from City National Bank too at 70% too due to sign up bonus so 85% is not unthinkable. I still agree with you if is a large amount then very likely it is a scam (like, over 3K)
Oh, by the way, LZ I would bite if they allow you to purchase with a US CC because then you can always charge back if it is a scam.
同意，leave those to the professionals like me
说啥呀，尽是没用的，知道你可能搞到低于85的卡，但是amazon卡随便卖93，95折，85折是有问题的。
85折 能够用美国信用卡买的对我来说是没问题的， worst case you charge back. I guess you didn''t even read my post.
我靠，这种事情马云不管管，明目张胆卖赃物啊。
这个是有问题，45 天内发货太慢了
amazon礼品卡是不是赃物，跟你用现金还是美国信用卡买的没有关系啊。 难道小偷盗用了别人的信息买的amazon礼品卡卖给你，你用美国信用卡付款，你就没有责任了？就像LS贴的淘宝的100美元只要460 rmb，我看它可以接受visa付款，但不代表它不是赃物啊。 你说的charge back只是从经济损失上来看，其实这个不仅仅是经济损失，这些用这种来源不明的gc的，经济损失，封号，还都是小事。以前就有一个老中，买了这种网上低折扣的target gift card去店里用，结果被警察抓了。 因为这种小偷或者骗子都在国外，美国警察或者fbi很难抓到，但是销赃的一定必须在美国境内，比较好抓，警察喜欢抓这些“销赃”的。
当然换商务舱是疫情之前的事了...
If I had known he is likely a thief of course I won''t. 15% doesn''''t necessary mean the seller is a thief because he/she is still believeable. 15-30% off with a large amount then I won''t be buying. Common sense. Rember LZ didn''t initially say how much or how long it will take for the cards to arrive. BTW, you example only flys if the guy is getting huge discounts on giftcards and repeatly using it as target. I doubt he is only getting 15% off. We have seen people getting 20% off on target giftcards even in this forum (buy $100 giftcarrd and getting an addtional $25 card). So your target GC example doesn''t apply to this case here.
都跟你说了，非theft的靠谱来源的amazon gc可以卖到95折左右，一般是93-96折。那些什么gucci的好像更低一下，大概85折。如果你上家的amazon gift card是靠谱渠道的，他就能卖95折，他为啥95折不卖非要85折卖给你呢？你长的特别好看？ Anyway, 这种事情，最后提醒你一下，看在大家上同一个论坛的份上，这种买个几千块就算了，就算警察查到你了，估计也懒的管你，但是要是量大必被抓。
I don''t understand why you are arguing with me. We are saying the same thing. The OP didn''t say how much the seller was selling or any other terms. The only thing he/she said was 15% off. You said it must be a scam and I said you are likely right but it isn''t necessary a scam and I gave you my reason.
Now that the terms are posted of course I won''t buy these because it is now obvious. I know the market price of amazon giftcards. Sometime people sell at a steeper discount for a reason. For an example, maybe he is not well informed. Lots of people are not well informeded on giftcards or vouchers. There are people on this forum who thought that those Hilton Free Night vouchers from AMEX are only worth $125 a piece even though the market price for those are around $250 (because they can be used during weekdays too nowadays). Anyway, stay informed and don''t fall for scams and just ignore me.
大妈，我服你了。都是你有理。
这种多半是肉鸡卡，就是盗用别人信用卡信息买的amazon gc。会给你带来很多危险，要是想在美国长期呆下去，不要搞这种amazon gc。 以前如果有amex offer的时候，可以搞到8折的amazon gc，但是量不大，一个人大概能弄到小几百到小几千。最近一年来好像amazon gc紧俏多了，基本上是9折能拿到。如果有人倒卖gc，不应该比9折低。所以你这个八五折很有问题。 我自己以前可以搞8折gc都懒得搞，因为gc会作废信用卡的好处，比如延保之类的，而且听说过大额gc balance被amazon调查的事情。
这位MM，你说的小额情况确实是有可能的，不过没必要在这里互相杠。按楼主的语境，“国内客户”、“有渠道”，我觉得正常理解情况下这都不是一两千小数额的意思，而是要弄大量合作代销的感觉。那这就非常有可能是大坑了，甚至有法律风险。这个时候讨论哪家信用卡曾经给过15%的折扣意义不大，因为我们都知道那种deal属于北美省钱快报什么的地方贴出来就会被抢光的，不会有哪家公司拿着这种简单套现就有暴利的生意来找楼主做……
你这属于理解能力太差，还质问别人为啥要跟你争。。。小量GC便宜走当然有可能，不过你觉得那个卖家费这么多周折转几道弯的找人买，就为了几十几百甚至几千块？如果我有几千块来路清白的85折Amazon gc, 我随便在亲近的朋友里吆喝一声，分分钟没了，这种好deal 还不是要靠抢的？common sense
其实这种行为什么giftcard不能用，amazon关号，都是算好了。惨的是被警察盯上被抓了，2017年就有一例。我跟她说便宜不要捡，她非要说自己是lucky能碰到那么好的折扣，我也是没办法了。 这个老中因为买来历不明的target gift card已经被抓起来了，guilty了，不知道最后怎么判了。其实量也不多，也就才买了30万target gift card。
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2018/11/15/former-uwm-scientist-guilty-international-gift-card-scam/2011563002/
Are you kidding me? 300K target giftcards and that is a small amount? She is making it a business, complete different story.
Well looking back, my mistake was 没意识到国内网站可以这么搞的. well my bad. I should have stuck to what I know. I for one will never bother these 5-6% off amazon cards as I do not run a business. Getting 5% off on amazon giftcards and losing on CC extended warranty on a purchase simply is not worthy of my time. But then again what the heck do I know.
Y''all running some biz to skim off discounted amazon cards? It seemed like I am the only idiot in the room not realizing this involves potential millions dollars worth of amazon giftcards.
well I stand corrected, I didn't know this involves over 10 million usd worth of giftcards. everyone else seemed to know without the OP mentioning the amount.