求助 一岁奶娃手臂长满奇怪的疹子

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luxor
楼主 (北美华人网)
这些疹子大概是一个半月前开始长的 刚开始是这样的
不痒 只在一条手臂 现在完全遍布了一条手臂

我们看了他自己的儿医 另外一个口碑很好的儿医 还有一个皮肤科儿医(斯坦福附属) 都是三个老医生 结果都不知道是啥东西!尝试了一个月的口服和涂的抗生素加激素 完全控制不住。 宝宝刚满一岁 以前有湿疹 换了neocate之后湿疹好差不多了 同期长出了这些东西 求大家推荐好医生!在湾区。
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sheisalice
一个半月都还没好吗 好心疼 BLESS宝宝没事尽快治愈!
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ahbear
湿疹的一种。我家娃长过
滑铁卢的春天
感觉像神经性皮炎
可怜的小宝宝,希望快快好起来!
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Togoby
Looks like ringworm, a fungal infection
我上面有人
这个就是某种湿疹,我一到冬天很容易长这个,我还对激素过敏,擦了就肿,不擦又好不了
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fishpond
Bless!
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wojiadapanglian
回复 1楼luxor的帖子
这个不像湿疹啊。好像是ringworm, 你找医生看看吧
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glassfishct
不会吧,三个老医生都看不出来?typical ringworm啊。要上antifungal, 抗生素和激素肯定不行
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fredman
湿疹.大了会好很多。
家里小孩得过。
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snoo
Looks like ringworm, a fungal infection
Togoby 发表于 2021-01-16 14:04

ringworm。我娃脸上长过一次,去CVS药剂师给了个治脚气的药膏,说都是一样的。
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luxor
好多美女提到ringworm 但是三位医生一共看了八次 其中好几次in person看了也摸了 没有一个人提到哪怕ring worm一次啊 所以我很不确定这是啥 虽然照片真的很像很像 现在三人意见都是某种细菌感染 要做麻醉取皮化验 我觉得会弄破皮肤造成更深感染 目前在观察和继续看新的医生。。。
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ready
可怜的宝宝,bless快点好。我家的从小湿疹不是这个样子,找皮肤科专科吧,他们成人儿童都看的。
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glassfishct
回复 12楼luxor的帖子
你既然不愿意biopsy, 那么就涂点antifungal cream试试看啊,反正也没有副作用
欢欢w
bless,像ringworm
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sandyud
最后一张图长得蛮像ringworm的。三个医生都没有看出来是什么吗?
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luxor
回复 12楼luxor的帖子
你既然不愿意biopsy, 那么就涂点antifungal cream试试看啊,反正也没有副作用
glassfishct 发表于 2021-01-16 14:21

我有每天早上用anti fungal的药 晚上用抗生素 这两种药里面都有激素 但是都没起色 三医生开的药有很大重复性
两娃妈
湿疹,costco 有个有机的infinite aloe霜 很好用
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glassfishct
我有每天早上用anti fungal的药 晚上用抗生素 这两种药里面都有激素 但是都没起色 三医生开的药有很大重复性
luxor 发表于 2021-01-16 14:30

用的是哪种antifungal?
卧梅幽闻花
ringworm likely. 找医生去开点药 抗真菌药就好
冬日暖阳1
好多美女提到ringworm 但是三位医生一共看了八次 其中好几次in person看了也摸了 没有一个人提到哪怕ring worm一次啊 所以我很不确定这是啥 虽然照片真的很像很像 现在三人意见都是某种细菌感染 要做麻醉取皮化验 我觉得会弄破皮肤造成更深感染 目前在观察和继续看新的医生。。。
luxor 发表于 2021-01-16 14:19

Getting a ringworm diagnosis Your doctor will diagnose ringworm by examining your skin and possibly using a black light to view your skin in the affected area. Depending on the type of fungus, it may sometimes fluoresce (glow) under black light. Your doctor may confirm a suspected diagnosis of ringworm by requesting certain tests: If you’re getting either a skin biopsy or fungal culture, your doctor will take a sample of your skin or discharge from a blister and send it to a lab to test it for the presence of fungus. If you’re getting a KOH exam, your doctor will scrape off a small area of infected skin onto a slide and place drops of a liquid called potassium hydroxide (KOH) on it. The KOH breaks apart normal skin cells, making the fungal elements easier to see under a microscope.
还建议biopsy 除外其他皮肤病的可能。
皮肤biopsy 造成感染的几率非常,非常低,中国妈妈自以为是, 自作主张,耽误宝宝治疗。然后说医生没诊断。
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luxor
用的是哪种antifungal?
glassfishct 发表于 2021-01-16 14:39

Nystatin-Triamcinolone 1%
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swisscheese
同学,皮肤科医生都看了,就不要听网友的非专业意见了。你觉得皮肤科医生会看不出ring worm 么?
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Cindy123450
家人有得过这种,在国内去皮肤科看了吃药,一周就好了。
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glassfishct
Nystatin-Triamcinolone 1%
luxor 发表于 2021-01-16 14:52

Nystatin是针对yeast infection, tinea corporis是dermatophyte infection, Nystatin没用,要用terbinafine
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US2020
钱状湿疹,大概率是对某种食物过敏。可以平时留意一下吃什么东西后更严重。
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dajiangyoude
可怜的娃。这么久都没好。是不是对什么过敏啊
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US2020
可以搜一下什么食物容易引起过敏,尤其看看出现这个情况的时间添加了什么新食物
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qingr67
好心疼 BLESS宝宝没事尽快治愈!
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luxor
有人说对食物过敏 我忘记说一个事实 每次吃虾肉 会又红又肿所以不敢吃了 但是食物过敏为什么只在一条手臂呢?我们现在每餐都是青菜西红柿牛肉末 因为这是他长疹子以前也吃的 其他不敢乱吃。。。
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luxor
Nystatin是针对yeast infection, tinea corporis是dermatophyte infection, Nystatin没用,要用terbinafine
glassfishct 发表于 2021-01-16 15:38

谢谢啊 你说的这个好像是OTC就有啊 治脚气的是吗?
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US2020
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也奇怪这一点,一半食物过敏造成的皮疹会对称长。但也有例外,我也见过只长一侧的。
冬日暖阳1
这些疹子大概是一个半月前开始长的 刚开始是这样的
不痒 只在一条手臂 现在完全遍布了一条手臂

我们看了他自己的儿医 另外一个口碑很好的儿医 还有一个皮肤科儿医(斯坦福附属) 都是三个老医生 结果都不知道是啥东西!尝试了一个月的口服和涂的抗生素加激素 完全控制不住。 宝宝刚满一岁 以前有湿疹 换了neocate之后湿疹好差不多了 同期长出了这些东西 求大家推荐好医生!在湾区。
luxor 发表于 2021-01-16 13:58

如果除外了湿疹和ringworm, 可以考虑
Granuloma annulare Granuloma annulare is a rash that often looks like a ring of small pink, purple or skin-coloured bumps. It usually appears on the back of the hands, feet, elbows or ankles. The rash is not usually painful, but it can be slightly itchy. It''s not contagious and usually gets better on its own within a few months. Granuloma annulare is more common in children and young adults, although it can affect people of all ages. It''s about twice as common in women. Types of granuloma annulare Here are some of the main types of granuloma annulaire: Localised granuloma annulare The most common type, localised granuloma annulare, appears in just 1 or 2 areas, tends to affect children and young adults, and usually gets better on its own after a few months. Pink, purple or skin-coloured patches typically appear on the fingers, backs of the hands, feet, ankles or elbows.  They form rings that grow slowly until they''re about 2.5-5cm across. As the rings get bigger, they become flatter and more purple in colour before eventually fading. In localised granuloma annulare, the top of the skin feels smooth and, unlike in other skin conditions, such as pityriasis versicolorringwormor eczema, it is not rough, dry or scaly. The affected skin also feels firm as a result of inflammation in the middle layer of skin (dermis). There''s no change in the outermost layer of skin (epidermis). Widespread granuloma annulare More rarely, you can develop a widespread rash, known as generalised or disseminated granuloma annulare. It usually affects adults. Large pink, purple or skin-coloured patches appear on a larger portion of the body, including the trunk, arms and legs. The rash is sometimes made up of small raised spots that form symmetrical rings 10cm or more across. They''re often found in skin folds in the armpits and groin. Under the skin Granuloma annulare under the skin usually affects children. One or more firm, rubbery lumps develop under the skin. They can range from 5mm-4cm in size. They can appear on the shins, ankles, feet, buttocks, hands, scalp and eyelids. When to see a GP See a GP if you have an unexplained rash that does not disappear within a few weeks. They''ll usually be able to diagnose granuloma annulare from the appearance of your rash. A skin biopsy may be needed to diagnose the rarer types of granuloma annulare. A small sample of affected skin is taken so it can be studied under a microscope in a laboratory. A blood glucose test may also be recommended. This is because in rare cases granuloma annulare can be linked to diabetes. Treating granuloma annulare Unfortunately, there''s no really effective treatment for granuloma annulare. But in most cases, treatment is not necessary because the rash will disappear on its own within a few months to 2 years. For more severe cases, you could ask a doctor about the following treatments: steroid creams or ointments may help, but they must be used carefully because long-term use can thin the skin cryotherapy (freezing the bumps) may be an option for treating very small patches, but it can be painful and cause permanent scarring ultraviolet light treatment and powerful medicines (such as steroid tablets, antibioticsantimalarial medicines, isotretinoin, ciclosporin and dapsone) have been reported to help in individual cases of widespread granuloma annulare, but for most people the symptoms of granuloma annulare do not justify using these treatments as they all have significant side effects If you find the appearance of the rash upsetting, you could try using skin camouflage products.  Read more about skin camouflage products and Maria''s experience of using them.  What causes granuloma annulare? The tissue underneath the top layer of skin (dermis) becomes hypersensitive and inflamed. It''s not clear what causes the skin to react in this way. Granuloma annulare is not caused by allergies and does not run in families. It''s sometimes associated with diabetes, although this is rare.
这个是个早期的表现

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luxor
如果除外了湿疹和ringworm, 可以考虑
Granuloma annulare Granuloma annulare is a rash that often looks like a ring of small pink, purple or skin-coloured bumps. It usually appears on the back of the hands, feet, elbows or ankles. The rash is not usually painful, but it can be slightly itchy. It''s not contagious and usually gets better on its own within a few months. Granuloma annulare is more common in children and young adults, although it can affect people of all ages. It''s about twice as common in women. Types of granuloma annulare Here are some of the main types of granuloma annulaire: Localised granuloma annulare The most common type, localised granuloma annulare, appears in just 1 or 2 areas, tends to affect children and young adults, and usually gets better on its own after a few months. Pink, purple or skin-coloured patches typically appear on the fingers, backs of the hands, feet, ankles or elbows.  They form rings that grow slowly until they''re about 2.5-5cm across. As the rings get bigger, they become flatter and more purple in colour before eventually fading. In localised granuloma annulare, the top of the skin feels smooth and, unlike in other skin conditions, such as pityriasis versicolorringwormor eczema, it is not rough, dry or scaly. The affected skin also feels firm as a result of inflammation in the middle layer of skin (dermis). There''s no change in the outermost layer of skin (epidermis). Widespread granuloma annulare More rarely, you can develop a widespread rash, known as generalised or disseminated granuloma annulare. It usually affects adults. Large pink, purple or skin-coloured patches appear on a larger portion of the body, including the trunk, arms and legs. The rash is sometimes made up of small raised spots that form symmetrical rings 10cm or more across. They''re often found in skin folds in the armpits and groin. Under the skin Granuloma annulare under the skin usually affects children. One or more firm, rubbery lumps develop under the skin. They can range from 5mm-4cm in size. They can appear on the shins, ankles, feet, buttocks, hands, scalp and eyelids. When to see a GP See a GP if you have an unexplained rash that does not disappear within a few weeks. They''ll usually be able to diagnose granuloma annulare from the appearance of your rash. A skin biopsy may be needed to diagnose the rarer types of granuloma annulare. A small sample of affected skin is taken so it can be studied under a microscope in a laboratory. A blood glucose test may also be recommended. This is because in rare cases granuloma annulare can be linked to diabetes. Treating granuloma annulare Unfortunately, there''s no really effective treatment for granuloma annulare. But in most cases, treatment is not necessary because the rash will disappear on its own within a few months to 2 years. For more severe cases, you could ask a doctor about the following treatments: steroid creams or ointments may help, but they must be used carefully because long-term use can thin the skin cryotherapy (freezing the bumps) may be an option for treating very small patches, but it can be painful and cause permanent scarring ultraviolet light treatment and powerful medicines (such as steroid tablets, antibioticsantimalarial medicines, isotretinoin, ciclosporin and dapsone) have been reported to help in individual cases of widespread granuloma annulare, but for most people the symptoms of granuloma annulare do not justify using these treatments as they all have significant side effects If you find the appearance of the rash upsetting, you could try using skin camouflage products.  Read more about skin camouflage products and Maria''s experience of using them.  What causes granuloma annulare? The tissue underneath the top layer of skin (dermis) becomes hypersensitive and inflamed. It''s not clear what causes the skin to react in this way. Granuloma annulare is not caused by allergies and does not run in families. It''s sometimes associated with diabetes, although this is rare.
这个是个早期的表现


冬日暖阳1 发表于 2021-01-16 21:56

谢谢这些有用的信息啊 所以三个医生都不确定我感觉判定湿疹和细菌感染副作用至少 应该最先尝试 接下去每一个类别的皮肤病 如你所贴 都是需要活体取皮才可以确认 因为用药可能有一定副作用 好吧 我打算再去找一个皮肤科专家 如果四个医生都建议取皮 那就取皮吧。。。
人间不拆
真菌感染 你去问儿医 湿疹不会有明显形状 真菌才有 药房里面有一种药膏 床单啥的需要大清洗
人间不拆
回复 1楼luxor的帖子
这个不像湿疹啊。好像是ringworm, 你找医生看看吧
wojiadapanglian 发表于 2021-01-16 14:09

正解 ring worm 我娃以前得过
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taipalengle
不像真菌感染
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minqidev
就是湿疹,我家娃也有,一直到和牛奶才好。
奶粉的原因,你可以试试 walgreen的low iron的formula
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lalama
Ring worm,可以试一下用柠檬汁外涂,一日多次,反正不会有坏处。
冰是睡着的水
圆形的那个像带状病毒?看着有点像啊,其他地方又像湿疹
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tuer
就是湿疹,我家娃也有,一直到和牛奶才好。
奶粉的原因,你可以试试 walgreen的low iron的formula
minqidev 发表于 2021-01-16 23:22

插一句歪楼的话补充一下,如果楼主的娃已经满了一周岁的话不过敏情况下可以只喝全脂牛奶不用吃奶粉了(如果是母乳喂养的可以继续+喝全脂牛奶)。
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luxor
我自己排除是湿疹的可能性 因为他之前有中度湿疹 儿医给推荐了neocate奶粉脱敏 我们就换了奶粉 然后湿疹浑身都消失了 但是同期 真的是换了奶粉的几天以后发现了这个rash 但是任何食物过敏 只在局部出现真的不大像过敏。。不好说 我只能再找一个皮肤科医生专门看psoriasis的 如果还是不行 那我就咬咬牙取皮吧
信你想
看起來好恐怖啊
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sandyud
mm你可以加facebook的eczema group问问,那里的妈妈比较有经验。 group name: Baby and Childhood Eczema Support Group
长过湿疹的娃一般皮肤比较敏感,容易得各种各样的皮肤病。你这个激素加抗生素都没法控制,我感觉确实湿疹的可能性不大。
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aiyamayayongle
第一张照片里看着像瘊(疣)。
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Nurture
你家里有猫么?我小学时候,皮肤上有类似的形状,是我家猫传染的。 另外,会有tick么?bull's eye. 不过这么冷的季节,可能都没有tick了?