(慎入)喝了一辈子热水的老妈,这个胃镜结果,需要担心食道癌吗?

sunshine35
楼主 (北美华人网)
老妈在国内做了胃镜,告诉我查出有食道憩室。可是看胃镜描述,食道多发隆起型病变,这个听起来很像前期的肿瘤或者癌变啊。中国是食管癌高发区,老妈有老一辈特爱喝热水的通病。 胃镜的时候活检了一块胃部组织结果正常,但是没有活检食管。 我该建议老妈去医院再仔细检查一次吗?
Gooood
喝热水跟食道癌有关
其他不了解
sunshine35
喝热水跟食道癌有关
其他不了解
Gooood 发表于 2021-01-10 02:16

嗯,我也是最近才注意到,超过65度以上的东西入口都致癌,也提醒家人了,可惜他们一辈子都这么过来的,损伤可能不可逆了。
软猬甲一起用
表面光滑,硬,可以触动,这些都是良性的表现
热带湾拖鞋
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这是已经不算热水了,算“烫水”,同理还有火锅,饺子之类的,有的人根本等不及,刚出锅还烫的时候就急急忙忙吃了。
flyingpiggly
嗯,我也是最近才注意到,超过65度以上的东西入口都致癌,也提醒家人了,可惜他们一辈子都这么过来的,损伤可能不可逆了。
sunshine35 发表于 2021-01-10 02:32

我的太姥姥食道癌,据说就是超级喜欢特别烫的食物
lilimarah
完了,我得去检查一下,我经常吃烫的东西。。。我有段时间喝热水都要测一下温度,因为经常等不及
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flyerr
回复 1楼sunshine35的帖子
我外公是贲门癌。也是爱吃烫的。
Cinderella_smile
bless bless
yolandos
那爱喝热茶的人不都给吓晕啦?
gemeaux0602
我外公也是爱喝热茶,很早就食道癌走了。
金生水起
吃热伤食道都是概率,我有亲戚一家人习惯吃滚汤的食物,吃饭恨不能守在锅旁边捞出来就得吃上的那种,喝水要滚汤的,喝杯牛奶都要微波炉加热两分半,一家子没有食道问题,最大的100岁了胃口还超好。
miamivivian
60度以上很烫啊 怎么喝得进去呢?不理解。。。难道他们不觉得烫?
Pigsqwerty
等病理报告
冬日暖阳1
回复 1楼sunshine35的帖子
西方人喝的咖啡都多少度的
195°F-205°F ==== 90-96 c

How To Are You Serving Coffee at the Ideal Temperature? So you’ve abandoned your automatic drip coffee maker in search of a really great cup of coffee. You now have a world of opportunity for every cup you brew, but you have to master a few fundamentals to reach coffee Nirvana. One element that many beginning brewers overlook is water temperature. What is the perfect temperature for brewing and serving your next cup? The short answer: it depends.​ Proper Water Temperature for Brewing
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Before we get to what temperature to serve your coffee, you should first make sure that you brew it at the correct temperature to give you the best chance at hitting the sweet spot. The general rule is that coffee should be brewed between 195°F and 205°F. If your water is much hotter, it will scald the coffee, producing a bitter and burnt drink that gives you flashbacks of breakroom coffee that’s been sitting on a heating element all day.​ If you dip much below this range, though, you won’t be able to dissolve the solubles from the coffee beans’ cells. You’ll be left with weak, flavorless coffee because it wasn’t hot enough to extract flavor from the grounds. ​Stay in this range, and you should be in good shape regardless of your brewing method. If you like to experiment, though, consider the following guidelines for your preferred method. ​French Press (200°F) With its coarse grind and extended brew time, your French Press can produce a bold cup by staying right in the middle of the recommended range. For 200°F water, take your water off the heat when it starts to boil, then wait 30 seconds before pouring. Pour Over Coffee (195°F-205°F)​ Pour over coffee works well at the upper end of the range for light roasts. You might want to reduce your temperature somewhat if you are brewing a darker roast, though. And don’t forget to preheat your cone and container so you don’t lose too much heat in the transfer.
yolandos
I don''t drink coffee or tea, dodged two bullets
BTW, bless LZ''s mom
sunshine35
每个人对热的耐受能力不一样,看过这个测评挺有趣的。 https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/aztV729Pr0l-z6_deRD0Hw
Renshengkuduan
慢性萎缩性胃炎 严重吗
sunshine35
慢性萎缩性胃炎 严重吗
Renshengkuduan 发表于 2021-01-10 13:41

因为没有很严重的症状,医生说胃病三分靠药,七分靠养,只吩咐了饮食调理。
aneklb34
那多少度是安全??? 我家热水壶是65°。
sunshine35
回复 20楼aneklb34的帖子
65度以下就算安全吧。
anye
完了,我得去检查一下,我经常吃烫的东西。。。我有段时间喝热水都要测一下温度,因为经常等不及
lilimarah 发表于 2021-01-10 04:55

这算一种癖好么?烫到自己难道舒服??
hellorainbow
这算一种癖好么?烫到自己难道舒服??
anye 发表于 2021-01-10 15:05

经常喝热的可能已经习惯了不觉得烫了吧。我是天生怕热,别人的温水我觉得烫
大喜妞
请问65度是摄氏度还是华氏度?
Peacelife
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/WosFFIVsY7UzaDBbMEvbTQ
来,这篇科普文放家族群里
BlueNDGold
回复 1楼sunshine35的帖子
西方人喝的咖啡都多少度的
195°F-205°F ==== 90-96 c

How To Are You Serving Coffee at the Ideal Temperature? So you’ve abandoned your automatic drip coffee maker in search of a really great cup of coffee. You now have a world of opportunity for every cup you brew, but you have to master a few fundamentals to reach coffee Nirvana. One element that many beginning brewers overlook is water temperature. What is the perfect temperature for brewing and serving your next cup? The short answer: it depends.​ Proper Water Temperature for Brewing
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Before we get to what temperature to serve your coffee, you should first make sure that you brew it at the correct temperature to give you the best chance at hitting the sweet spot. The general rule is that coffee should be brewed between 195°F and 205°F. If your water is much hotter, it will scald the coffee, producing a bitter and burnt drink that gives you flashbacks of breakroom coffee that’s been sitting on a heating element all day.​ If you dip much below this range, though, you won’t be able to dissolve the solubles from the coffee beans’ cells. You’ll be left with weak, flavorless coffee because it wasn’t hot enough to extract flavor from the grounds. ​Stay in this range, and you should be in good shape regardless of your brewing method. If you like to experiment, though, consider the following guidelines for your preferred method. ​French Press (200°F) With its coarse grind and extended brew time, your French Press can produce a bold cup by staying right in the middle of the recommended range. For 200°F water, take your water off the heat when it starts to boil, then wait 30 seconds before pouring. Pour Over Coffee (195°F-205°F)​ Pour over coffee works well at the upper end of the range for light roasts. You might want to reduce your temperature somewhat if you are brewing a darker roast, though. And don’t forget to preheat your cone and container so you don’t lose too much heat in the transfer.
冬日暖阳1 发表于 2021-01-10 10:07

你说的是泡咖啡的热度。
等人喝的时候没那么烫。
erieri
回复 15楼冬日暖阳1的帖子
我以为泡咖啡最适合的温度是85°C
shangxue
楼主,我觉得检查报告里的中度肠化生还是要注意一下的
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pipiyanni
回复 24楼大喜妞的帖子
肯定摄氏度,华氏65就是室温凉水了啊
cherry2527
回复 1楼sunshine35的帖子
医生为啥不活检食道呢,食道癌确实跟吃含亚硝酸盐的食物相关,泡菜酸菜之类的,所以东北那里食道癌高发,吃烫的东西也有关系
Beau
不要过分解读,你妈妈是不是喝酒脸红?这种人自带基因本来得食道癌的概率就比其他人高20倍。
冬日暖阳1
你说的是泡咖啡的热度。
等人喝的时候没那么烫。
BlueNDGold 发表于 2021-01-10 15:38

没人等到65度以下喝。

sunshine35
楼主,我觉得检查报告里的中度肠化生还是要注意一下的
shangxue 发表于 2021-01-10 16:02

多谢提醒!会注意的。
sunshine35
不要过分解读,你妈妈是不是喝酒脸红?这种人自带基因本来得食道癌的概率就比其他人高20倍。
Beau 发表于 2021-01-10 18:59

原来如此,我也是这种类型,看来要提高警惕
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bbhappy
咖啡加奶后还真一点不烫
Beau
原来如此,我也是这种类型,看来要提高警惕
sunshine35 发表于 2021-01-10 21:21

咱们这种基因的最好不要喝酒,不然各种黏膜系统癌症高发。
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XSQ
我爷爷,奶奶,还有爷爷的弟弟,三个人三年内全部是食道癌去世,70左右。爱吃烫的和咸的,程度都是一般人根本没法接受的那种。
deadend
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AlIen_196883
很难理解喜欢喝烫的东西的人。我妈以前有时会跟我说,赶紧喝了别等放凉了,我就觉得很烫就放着。 是跟喜欢吃辣一样的原理,某些痛觉引起的全身反应反而产生了兴奋的舒适感么?
lilimarah
这算一种癖好么?烫到自己难道舒服??
anye 发表于 2021-01-10 15:05

不是,就是能喝很烫的
lilimarah
不要过分解读,你妈妈是不是喝酒脸红?这种人自带基因本来得食道癌的概率就比其他人高20倍。
Beau 发表于 2021-01-10 18:59

完了,我本来就巨红,又爱吃热的。。呜呜呜。我现在开始喝凉的到70以后会不会没事了
flyingforce
吃热伤食道都是概率,我有亲戚一家人习惯吃滚汤的食物,吃饭恨不能守在锅旁边捞出来就得吃上的那种,喝水要滚汤的,喝杯牛奶都要微波炉加热两分半,一家子没有食道问题,最大的100岁了胃口还超好。
金生水起 发表于 2021-01-10 08:31

癌症很多时候就是概率问题,只要细胞分裂就有概率产生癌细胞,所以分裂的次数多了产生癌细胞的可能性就大
吃热食物容易得癌症就是热食物会伤细胞,这部分细胞分裂修复受伤细胞的概率大
我大致研究了下,大多数的癌症成因都和这有点关系,都是部分组织经常受到伤害然后加大分裂次数;而且据说百岁老人体内大多数都有小的癌瘤,但是因为他们新陈代谢已经很慢了,这种癌瘤对他们的伤害已经很小了。
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sameusername
那漱口水刺激口腔黏膜会增加癌变机会吗?
哆啦a梦的潇潇
不太懂,祝福妈妈一切顺利,健康平安
xiabibi
很难理解喜欢喝烫的东西的人。我妈以前有时会跟我说,赶紧喝了别等放凉了,我就觉得很烫就放着。 是跟喜欢吃辣一样的原理,某些痛觉引起的全身反应反而产生了兴奋的舒适感么?
AlIen_196883 发表于 2021-01-11 04:19

烫的东西比较好吃,尤其是汤,好像更鲜。不懂为啥,但有这个体会。
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lilyal
完了,我本来就巨红,又爱吃热的。。呜呜呜。我现在开始喝凉的到70以后会不会没事了
lilimarah 发表于 2021-01-11 15:52

喝酒脸红的人如果经常喝酒的话,得食道癌的概率就高,不要喝酒就好了。
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missvege
那爱喝热茶的人不都给吓晕啦?
yolandos 发表于 2021-01-10 08:28

是啊,很多年之前,曾经一个学这方面的朋友就告诉我,那些福建喜欢喝茶的地方食道癌就发生多,因为习惯喝一口一小杯很烫的茶。
uidchallenge
oh no, 我一边看这贴,一边捧着我的保温杯喝着很烫很烫的茶。我不爱喝水,只能接受很烫的热水或茶。真的要改习惯了。