回复 33楼shinyfire的帖子 你们美国媒体不行啊。。。这种查户口本的事情还是要靠英国小报。。。来来来昨天晚上英国媒体就把这些人都挖出来了 Trump's 'Great Patriots' EXPOSED: How rag-tag bunch of Capitol looters is made up of white supremacists who celebrate Auschwitz and attend far-right rallies cross America - and a Nazi-tattoed 'Shaman' The heavily-tattooed Trump supporter has been identified as Jake Angeli - dubbed the QAnon ShamanAngeli was at the front of a group of agitators, named as members of Proud Boys and other right wing groupsOther key figures in the riot include Richard 'Bigo' Barnett, 60, who entered Nancy Pelosi's officeBarnett boasted that he 'wrote her a nasty note, put my feet up on her desk and scratched my balls' Another looter who smiled for a photo as he made off with a lectern has been named as Adam JohnsonThe QAnon Shaman, real name Jake Angeli The heavily-tattooed Trump supporter who sported horns, a fur hat and face paint and occupied the Senate dais moments after Vice President Mike Pence delivered his rebuke to Donald Trump has been revealed to be an Arizona-based QAnon believer who used to promote himself as a singer and actor. Jake Angeli, 32, often known as the QAnon Shaman, has become a fixture at recent right-wing rallies while decked out in his signature attire. One of his tattoos is said to show the symbol of Wotanism, an acronym for 'Will of the Aryan Nation.' Dr Adam Rutherford tweeted: 'I know this jamiroquoi wannabe muthaf***a is kinda funny but his tattoo is the symbol of Wotanism, which is a Nazi/Odin occult that believes Jews control the government, the Holocaust is exaggerated and champions the 14/88 slogan. He's a real card-carrying Nazi.' Angeli was at the front of a group of agitators who broke into the Capitol and faced off with DC police who desperately tried in vain to protect the establishment. He then made his way into the Senate chamber where he was seen shouting and posing for photos. Angeli flexed his left arm as he stood behind the dais in the Senate chamber where just moments earlier Vice President Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi had stood. He was flanked by an American flag and his fellow rioters took photos of him on their smartphones. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9122495/The-violent-pro-Trump-mob-stormed-Capitol.html
Baked Alaska, real name Tim Gionet Another of the mob was Tim Gionet, an online personality known as Baked Alaska who is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a white nationalist who was involved in the far-right Charlottesville rally in 2017. Gionet posted video that showed Trump supporters in 'Make America Great Again' and 'God Bless Trump' hats milling around and taking selfies with officers who calmly asked them to leave the premises. The Trump supporters talked among themselves, laughed, and told the officers and each other: 'This is only the beginning.'
Rick Saccone, former state lawmaker in Pennsylvania Even elected politicians were part of the mob. Rick Saccone, who ran for a U.S. House seat in 2018 and was once a state lawmaker in Pennsylvania, bragged on Facebook that 'we are storming the Capitol' and that 'our vanguard has broken through the barricades'. Saccone also told his followers: 'We are trying to run out all the evil people and RINOs that have betrayed our president. We are going to run them out of their offices.' He later deleted that post but not before it was seen by his followers, CBS reports. He added: 'Hello Mr. President, we love you. Keep doing what you're doing. We're with you. Until next time, in God we trust.'
回复 33楼shinyfire的帖子 你们美国媒体不行啊。。。这种查户口本的事情还是要靠英国小报。。。来来来昨天晚上英国媒体就把这些人都挖出来了 Trump's 'Great Patriots' EXPOSED: How rag-tag bunch of Capitol looters is made up of white supremacists who celebrate Auschwitz and attend far-right rallies cross America - and a Nazi-tattoed 'Shaman' The heavily-tattooed Trump supporter has been identified as Jake Angeli - dubbed the QAnon ShamanAngeli was at the front of a group of agitators, named as members of Proud Boys and other right wing groupsOther key figures in the riot include Richard 'Bigo' Barnett, 60, who entered Nancy Pelosi's officeBarnett boasted that he 'wrote her a nasty note, put my feet up on her desk and scratched my balls' Another looter who smiled for a photo as he made off with a lectern has been named as Adam JohnsonThe QAnon Shaman, real name Jake Angeli The heavily-tattooed Trump supporter who sported horns, a fur hat and face paint and occupied the Senate dais moments after Vice President Mike Pence delivered his rebuke to Donald Trump has been revealed to be an Arizona-based QAnon believer who used to promote himself as a singer and actor. Jake Angeli, 32, often known as the QAnon Shaman, has become a fixture at recent right-wing rallies while decked out in his signature attire. One of his tattoos is said to show the symbol of Wotanism, an acronym for 'Will of the Aryan Nation.' Dr Adam Rutherford tweeted: 'I know this jamiroquoi wannabe muthaf***a is kinda funny but his tattoo is the symbol of Wotanism, which is a Nazi/Odin occult that believes Jews control the government, the Holocaust is exaggerated and champions the 14/88 slogan. He's a real card-carrying Nazi.' Angeli was at the front of a group of agitators who broke into the Capitol and faced off with DC police who desperately tried in vain to protect the establishment. He then made his way into the Senate chamber where he was seen shouting and posing for photos. Angeli flexed his left arm as he stood behind the dais in the Senate chamber where just moments earlier Vice President Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi had stood. He was flanked by an American flag and his fellow rioters took photos of him on their smartphones. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9122495/The-violent-pro-Trump-mob-stormed-Capitol.html 梅干茶泡饭 发表于 2021-01-07 11:15
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川普在这件事情中受益了吗？他煽动示威者进入国会大厦对他自己有什么好处？川普想要的不过是通过示威者在外面的示威游行对国会议员造成一定的压力，川普一直都在寻求law and order， 一直在寻求通过正当的法律手段去申诉， 只可惜政治手段还是不够狠毒，斗不过那些不要脸的政客。。。 这次大选民主党有没有作弊，大家心里都有一杆秤，说没有作弊的摸摸自己的良心。邮件选票本身就有很大的问题，民主党的脸皮太厚，手段太下作，各个方面真是深得ccp的真传 美国本来想和平演变中国，现在看来中国反向改变了美国，将美国引向一党独裁的阳关大道
懂王枕边人的口气又来了，我就是讽刺不是造谣你跟懂王有啥交集，呵呵
之前那個川粉匯總，川黑勿進的樓怎麼不見了！
你是认为警察对BLM不作为。另一方认为警察对BLM过于暴力，认为昨天警察对川粉们过于友好。不过这个我承认，昨天警察对川粉们确实已经算是很NICE了。
lindsay graham今天已经指责了。说为什么去年BLM游行那么多警力，昨天的事情警力完全不够。昨天显然是警力不够。如果有1000警力，这帮人根本进不去大楼。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
去推特自己看吧。安提法带头，警察放行，川粉跟着进去。
带头冲击国会被击毙的已经确认为川粉。瞎猜谁不会，关键看证据
呵呵，都到现在了。战狼还没放弃呢。🐂 不过你伤心的时刻应该已经到了。Trump的大show 马上开始了😉 buckle up and enjoy!
什么时候是我的伤心时刻？能不能预告一下。记得上次预告是圣诞节前后。
Chloe妈妈，说那个戴牛角的是按提法的，来看看这个他的采访录像，说的都是川普和Q的好话哦，和你一样。
https://mobile.twitter.com/brieannafrank/status/1346936893418610691?s=20
请提供证据。
果然是个不看新闻的主啊。。。
问题是这个可以Proud Boys的leader，当时还竞选夏威夷的House席位，当然最后是输了。 这种人就是让那些基层川粉在前面打砸开路， 他和其它那些随大流的川粉不一样。
Babbit’s husband spoke to KUSI News, and described her as a strong Trump supporter and a ‘great patriot’ to everyone who knew her.
https://www.shethepeople.tv/news/who-is-ashli-babbit-pro-trump-protester-shot-capitol/
https://www.businessinsider.com/ashli-babbitt-tweeted-qanon-and-trump-conspiracies-before-capitol-death-2021-1
昨天 fox news就报了，中枪去世的女士当时跟着大家站在角落里，突然中枪。哪里说她带头了？你发个视频来看看？
咬文嚼字。是不是第一个进去的我不知道，但是中枪了必须在前排啊，第一排。那这算带头不算？要么是被人push到前排的？那可真是不幸。
她带头冲进去了吗？请提供视频
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/ip1DsbDjbO0
这位小哥给你还原现场
区别可大了。警察放行，她跟着进去。没有打砸，没有暴力，就被枪杀。这能一样吗？
“跟着进去”？？？？你当是去tour???
川普就想不到会发生动乱，一点后续准备都没有？？
自己看看那位小哥说的吧。另外，你们可真双标啊，国会山可不是随便进去的地方，某种程度上来说跟私人领域一个性质，随便进去然后叫你退后还不退，你说该怎么着？
或者说，银行金库被前面的强盗打开了，然后你就跟进去看看，没拿钱，是不是就能全身而退啦？
她是第一个想从砸碎的玻璃门冲进去的，什么跟着进去，什么站在角落。 你可以看看下面那个视频
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/AWMpTHLJXbw
这个视频，这个角度第一次看到，很清晰明了了。后面这男的还在煽风点火？
很清晰的视频。然后里面那个穿蓝衣服扶她的小哥就是前面一页把姓名居住地犯罪细节都透漏给记者的那位。
其实一搜就找到了。所以那些说”中枪去世的女士当时跟着大家站在角落里，突然中枪“的谣言可以休矣。
我在隔壁贴把这个视频贴了，谣言止于视频！
surge贴的视频很清楚吧。
看了你贴的油管，那只是Tucker Carlson的描述。看来你是被他误导了。连Fox News自己都说Tucker Carlson的话不可信。
You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
建议单独开帖，谣言止于视频。
赞一个！
本来是想怀疑你看不懂英文，现在就只觉得好好笑啊。所以佩罗西大妈的好女婿反水了？
你们美国媒体不行啊。。。这种查户口本的事情还是要靠英国小报。。。来来来昨天晚上英国媒体就把这些人都挖出来了
Trump's 'Great Patriots' EXPOSED: How rag-tag bunch of Capitol looters is made up of white supremacists who celebrate Auschwitz and attend far-right rallies cross America - and a Nazi-tattoed 'Shaman' The heavily-tattooed Trump supporter has been identified as Jake Angeli - dubbed the QAnon Shaman Angeli was at the front of a group of agitators, named as members of Proud Boys and other right wing groups Other key figures in the riot include Richard 'Bigo' Barnett, 60, who entered Nancy Pelosi's office Barnett boasted that he 'wrote her a nasty note, put my feet up on her desk and scratched my balls' Another looter who smiled for a photo as he made off with a lectern has been named as Adam Johnson The QAnon Shaman, real name Jake Angeli The heavily-tattooed Trump supporter who sported horns, a fur hat and face paint and occupied the Senate dais moments after Vice President Mike Pence delivered his rebuke to Donald Trump has been revealed to be an Arizona-based QAnon believer who used to promote himself as a singer and actor. Jake Angeli, 32, often known as the QAnon Shaman, has become a fixture at recent right-wing rallies while decked out in his signature attire. One of his tattoos is said to show the symbol of Wotanism, an acronym for 'Will of the Aryan Nation.' Dr Adam Rutherford tweeted: 'I know this jamiroquoi wannabe muthaf***a is kinda funny but his tattoo is the symbol of Wotanism, which is a Nazi/Odin occult that believes Jews control the government, the Holocaust is exaggerated and champions the 14/88 slogan. He's a real card-carrying Nazi.' Angeli was at the front of a group of agitators who broke into the Capitol and faced off with DC police who desperately tried in vain to protect the establishment. He then made his way into the Senate chamber where he was seen shouting and posing for photos. Angeli flexed his left arm as he stood behind the dais in the Senate chamber where just moments earlier Vice President Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi had stood. He was flanked by an American flag and his fellow rioters took photos of him on their smartphones. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9122495/The-violent-pro-Trump-mob-stormed-Capitol.html
有人说这个人只是一个职业protester。我也看到有人在网上放他以前支持气候变化的rally的照片。我不知道佩罗西大妈的好女婿和他怎么回事，也许在那这种气候变化Rally上的？不管怎么说，他绝对不是按提法是肯定的。如果你看了我发的video，一个按提法会赞扬川普？
川粉现在说的是按提法冒充川粉冲击国会山，可是你们贴出来的都一个个证明不是按提法。有的是极右翼组织Keystone State Skinheads, 有的是Proud Boys的。哪怕这个最多也是个professional protestor. 你们说的按提法在哪儿呢？
英国小报的查户口水平是杠杠的。我原来因为戴安娜很讨厌他们，不过这次觉得他们还是有些用的，所谓鸡鸣狗盗。 哈哈
其实戴安娜生前和小报是互相利用的关系 戴安娜需要曝光的时候就会喂料的
什么时候警察跟安提法是好朋友了？
川粉现在内部还没有统一口径。一开始甩锅按提法，后来发现找不到一个按提法的（找出来的都被一一证明是极右翼川普支持者），现在开始说陷阱了。 他们说的那个video我看了，就是在外围，警察才那么几个，根本挡不住，所以就后撤到后一道防线。
基层川粉哪有造谣的能力？造个谣都漏洞百出。要是能造谣的话早成Q的骨干，轮子媒体的大v，或者新中国联邦的中坚力量了
我看了，的确她不是跟进去的。我道歉。也谢谢你找的视频提供真相。 对于事情的全貌，我们看到不同的方面。我看见了警察放行，看到了川普总统支持者制止别人砸玻璃，看到安提法黑命贵打砸抢烧却没有警察开枪。如果我们都能尝试从不同的角度去看整个事情，或许可以更客观全面地做出判断。谢谢。
https://twitter.com/IndigoLeo10/status/1346941327720796166?s=19
不是支持气候rally，是去砸场子的，那张照片下面是不是有段小字？说的很清楚
那么多人，一个警察真的挡得住吗？不放行还能怎么着，要人家以身殉职？
真是佩服川粉的自欺欺人啊。
谢谢你的理性。 你发的那个link其实就是解释了当时警力不足，冲进国会山的人太多，那个video只有一个警察对着一群人。 警察放行的那个录像我也看到了。那个只是外围，4-5个警察对着一大堆人，根本挡不住。他们干脆后撤了。 从镜头角度看，那个拍所谓“警察放行”video的人就在这些警察的后面啊。
是吗？多谢指出。
他就是想看流血，和当年六四领袖一样
当时的情况一共才几个警察，对多少个恐怖分子？这种情况换我上我也开枪，不打死出头鸟死的就是你
难以想象明知道几十万人去protest只派4-5个警察在外围？我们这个小镇之前blm都是整个警局都派去不够还从隔壁城市借。
川粉真牛，现在怪警察不够，没有阻挡住集会的川粉，说辞千变万化。
人家要调国民兵，总统还不让呢，还是彭斯调的。。看看你们支持的总统，除了挑事，不利他个人的都不干。
不用跟这群人争辩这个，他们就是想要个冠冕堂皇的理由。以后去投个票都几十个警察举枪围观才好笑。
人民不过只是去观察被选上的议员怎么执行自己应该尽到的义务而已，还要上个血腥大戏给大家看。
对呀，看了这么多视频，要么看见4-5个在外围的，要么看见内部的一个警察。这么重要的场合dc警局就这么缺人还是都给混进去的antifa保驾护航了？
所以整个dc警局就5-6个警察？
这名字还“真具”诱惑性啊。
“差点被你骗了”
你看的只是一个地方一个角落的场面，怎么变成几十万人去protest只派4-5个警察在外围？你知道capitol hill有多大？
我已经把那些右翼支持川普者在国会山里的证据都贴出来了，也驳斥了一些网上流传的所谓按提法的照片，给出了这些照片的来源。
Trump还有大show？你到现在还相信啊？！
很有可能。川粉个个都老实淳朴、厚道蠢萌，智商未必就比安提法那些人高，被安提法欺骗操纵了很有可能。
为什么没有啊，戏怎么能演一半？
给民主党和共和党反派大大的差评！
我当然知道capitol hill多大，我的意思是总共几个入口？为什么入口处就4-5个警察？现在看到的视频各方面体现警力不足啊。
警察放行？一大堆人逼供一个警察的片段有没有看到？！
是的，现在就是说大统领Trump不让调动国民兵。川普的支持者你们清醒一下你们的支持的人就是一人渣，他就是想看着美国乱。你们除了是支持他以外，记住你们还是一个美国人！你们看看现在美国成什么样子了？！全世界的笑话！你们不心疼美国，却还要相信Trump的鬼话!
大戏当然有，外星人还没来呢，拭目以待吧！
外星人来了估计早就被人类吓死了，所以才不出现呢。
是想来比智商？
快来吧！哎！这戏演的人眼睛要被亮瞎。
来来来，我们再来讨论一下外星人好了。
来到地球的外星人据说已经被分级，我们来猜猜他们跨空间的时候看到了什么？
看了几个视频就感觉这国会山太容易进了。更不说里面还开着最重要的会。
这个QAnon和4chan成员也被川粉撒谎成antifa
论功行赏的时候说你表现不足以减刑？
Blm爱川大？你是开玩笑的吗？
用脑子想想，冲进去谁背后渔翁得利就能理解。
楼主加一群马甲的shit积累挺多了，我就再加两张图。 今天这个演员过场贴，可以结了。
对方得利就是做局，自己搬石头砸了脚的时候呢？？？？
就是和平protest警力是需要跟人数成正比的。
不论是不是BLM还是MAGA， 暴力冲击国会山的一律抓起来判刑，这个行不？
你说的也有可能。不过你得接着看。闹了这么大闯进去后死了人后没多久还能照常开会。交通事故封路都比这个长呢。不过我到现在都没看到川怂恿闯国会山的证据，这个自己搬石头还不成立哈。
可以。第一时间也请把安提法blm也一起抓。
不要扯这些阴谋论。所有违法者叛国者一律依法处理，不论政治倾向。这点你同意吗?希望你正面回答。谢谢
川普早上开会说我和你们一起去国会山。你们要展现力量，要WILD。 朱利安尼说要战斗。这可都是有录像的。
你去冲进中南海试试，看多久后能正常开会？？
试过保证你满意。
同意。麻烦把拜登家傻儿子的事一起严查。
去和进去是有区别的。我听了没听出来是怂恿闯进国会山。
凡是进楼的都会抓。 目前我只看到了一个人的照片，好像跟BLM有关。但是又怎么样呢？违法就抓就好了。几百人爬墙砸窗户暴力进楼的没一个是无辜的。
中南海门口都不能围观呢你在说啥呢？
可以啊。川普家人腐败的事情可以查吗？如果违法可以起诉吗？川普喜欢在大选前搞一些有的没的，难道你不知道？2016年搞希拉里的邮件门和PIZZA门，后续呢？他当了四年总统不要告诉我他什么都没做。
能抓最好了。顺便查查为啥这么重要的场所安保如此不给力。谁带头的？
可以啊，就是查了四年啥都没查出浪费了纳税人多少钱要不要考虑方向错了？
不抵抗也不对。抵抗了开枪了也不对。真难伺候。警察昨天已经很客气了。
没有证据就不要造谣行不？
我还没有看到一张照片和BLM有关的。 层主能不能share一下？
因为该抵抗的时候不抵抗比如说为什么就4-5警察守着重要入口处，还帮忙搬走路障。而开枪前是需要警示却没有就冲出来直接一枪毙命。
不造谣他们还能干什么呢？游行也去不了了，媒体也看不了了，喜欢的推特也没人发了，只剩在本版造谣了啊