关于UK的变异的病毒两点:不是更加致命,目前疫苗可控

甜烧饼
楼主 (北美华人网)
根据BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55388846
Does it make the infection more deadly? There is no evidence to suggest that it does, although this will need to be monitored. However, just increasing transmission would be enough to cause problems for hospitals. If the new variant means more people are infected more quickly, that would in turn lead to more people needing hospital treatment.
Will the vaccines work against the new variant? Almost certainly yes, or at least for now. All three leading vaccines develop an immune response against the existing spike, which is why the question comes up. Vaccines train the immune system to attack several different parts of the virus, so even though part of the spike has mutated, the vaccines should still work. "But if we let it add more mutations, then you start worrying," said Prof Gupta. "This virus is potentially on a pathway for vaccine escape, it has taken the first couple of steps towards that." Vaccine escape happens when the virus changes so it dodges the full effect of the vaccine and continues to infect people. This may be the most concerning element of what is happening with the virus. This variant is just the latest to show the virus is continuing to adapt as it infects more and more of us. A presentation by Prof David Robertson, from the University of Glasgow on Friday, concluded: "
The virus will probably be able to generate vaccine escape mutants
." That would put us in a position similar to flu, where the vaccines need to be regularly updated. Fortunately the vaccines we have are very easy to tweak. Follow James on Twitter
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愿上天保佑🙏
甜烧饼
根据BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55388846
Does it make the infection more deadly? There is no evidence to suggest that it does, although this will need to be monitored. However, just increasing transmission would be enough to cause problems for hospitals. If the new variant means more people are infected more quickly, that would in turn lead to more people needing hospital treatment.
Will the vaccines work against the new variant? Almost certainly yes, or at least for now. All three leading vaccines develop an immune response against the existing spike, which is why the question comes up. Vaccines train the immune system to attack several different parts of the virus, so even though part of the spike has mutated, the vaccines should still work. "But if we let it add more mutations, then you start worrying," said Prof Gupta. "This virus is potentially on a pathway for vaccine escape, it has taken the first couple of steps towards that." Vaccine escape happens when the virus changes so it dodges the full effect of the vaccine and continues to infect people. This may be the most concerning element of what is happening with the virus. This variant is just the latest to show the virus is continuing to adapt as it infects more and more of us. A presentation by Prof David Robertson, from the University of Glasgow on Friday, concluded: "
The virus will probably be able to generate vaccine escape mutants
." That would put us in a position similar to flu, where the vaccines need to be regularly updated. Fortunately the vaccines we have are very easy to tweak. Follow James on Twitter

甜烧饼 发表于 2020-12-21 12:52

希望都看到,不要被人忽悠恐慌。
fidelity123
中国的100%有用的灭活疫苗还有用吗
arizaq
这中文标题和文章说的不是一回事啊。
文章说的是 1)目前不知道变异病毒是否更加致命。 2) 现有疫苗猜测可能还有效。
zx1269
这个“不是更加致命” 是指比如原来 致死率是 0.1%, 现在还是 0.1%的话,因为传播更快了,所以死的人还是会多的意思吗?还是现在虽然得的人多了,但是死的人的数量(而不是百分比) 还是一样的?
majiagou
这中文标题和文章说的不是一回事啊。
文章说的是 1)目前不知道变异病毒是否更加致命。 2) 现有疫苗猜测可能还有效。
arizaq 发表于 2020-12-21 13:03

文章说的是 1) 无证据显示更致命,但仍需监测。 2)大概率有效,至少现阶段。 你那翻译我真服了。
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Grace222
这两天版上为了给国内双测新政洗地各种英美恐慌的帖子也真是够了。。。。
lnghng
这中文标题和文章说的不是一回事啊。
文章说的是 1)目前不知道变异病毒是否更加致命。 2) 现有疫苗猜测可能还有效。
arizaq 发表于 2020-12-21 13:03

说是向疫苗无效走出了第一步,说目前估计疫苗很可能还继续有效的, 但继续往这个方向发展的话就会不妙.所以我觉得有这种可能到明年冬天情况不能好转.
foot16
现在的回答都过早,人类还不了解这个病毒
甜烧饼
文章说的是 1) 无证据显示更致命,但仍需监测。 2)大概率有效,至少现阶段。 你那翻译我真服了。
majiagou 发表于 2020-12-21 13:39

是的。
文章说的是 1) 无证据显示更致命,但仍需监测。 2)大概率有效,至少现阶段。 你那翻译我真服了。
majiagou 发表于 2020-12-21 13:39

说白了就是都是无知状态。你们两个只是从两个不同边看这个问题。
甜烧饼
这两天版上为了给国内双测新政洗地各种英美恐慌的帖子也真是够了。。。。
Grace222 发表于 2020-12-21 13:50

是的。
wobuaichicu
谁给谁洗地啊?我看到的中文新闻也没写“更致命”啊,写的是“传播速度更快”,这也需要洗?
甜烧饼
这两天版上为了给国内双测新政洗地各种英美恐慌的帖子也真是够了。。。。
Grace222 发表于 2020-12-21 13:50

确实如此。
甜烧饼
说白了就是都是无知状态。你们两个只是从两个不同边看这个问题。
睿 发表于 2020-12-21 15:21

这个病毒变异并非今天才发现,9月份就知道了。已经观察三个月。