自然杂志消息:日本和柬埔寨蝙蝠中发现新冠病毒近亲

平明寻白羽
楼主 (北美华人网)
自然杂志发布新闻稿。
一个日本团队在冷冻日本蝙蝠体内(2013年采集)检测到新冠SARS-CoV-2同clade(进化群,进化树同分枝)的冠状病毒。同源性81%, 和中国之前发现的舟山蝙蝠冠状病毒和SARS-CoV-2同源性接近。文章已经发表。
一个柬埔寨科研团队在他们2010年采集的蝙蝠体内发现和SARS-CoV-2, 石正丽组发现的RatG13接近的冠状病毒。
Duong says preliminary genome sequencing of a short fragment of the new bat virus — 324 base pairs long — showed that it was similar to the same region in SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG-13, suggesting that the three are closely related.
目前完成了70%的测序。他们的结果会在近期发表。
RaTG13和新冠病毒SARS-CoV-2同源性97%。
如果柬埔寨的病毒同源性和新馆病毒高于97%,达到99%,那么就会极大概率是新冠的直系祖先。

NEWS 23 November 2020 Coronaviruses closely related to the pandemic virus discovered in Japan and Cambodia The viruses, both found in bats stored in laboratory freezers, are the first SARS-CoV-2 relatives to be found outside China. Smriti Mallapaty

A coronavirus related to SARS-CoV-2 has been found in Shamel’s horseshoe bats captured in Cambodia in 2010.Credit: Merlin D. Tuttle/SPL Two lab freezers in Asia have yielded surprising discoveries. Researchers have told Nature they have found a coronavirus that is closely related to SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for the pandemic, in horseshoe bats stored in a freezer in Cambodia. Meanwhile, a team in Japan has reported the discovery of another closely related coronavirus — also found in frozen bat droppings. The viruses are the first known relatives of SARS-CoV-2 to be found outside China, which supports the World Health Organization’s search across Asia for the pandemic’s animal origin. Strong evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2 originated in horseshoe bats, but whether it passed directly from bats to people, or through an intermediate host, remains a mystery. The virus in Cambodia was found in two Shamel’s horseshoe bats (Rhinolophus shameli) captured in the country’s north in 2010. The virus’s genome has not yet been fully sequenced — nor its discovery published — making its full significance to the pandemic hard to ascertain.
If the virus is very closely related to — or even an ancestor of — the pandemic virus, it could provide crucial information about how SARS-CoV-2 passed from bats to people, and inform the search for the pandemic’s origin, says Veasna Duong, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Cambodia in Phnom Penh, who led the search of the old samples in Cambodia and alerted Nature to the discovery in early November. To provide such insights, the virus would have to share more than 97% of its genome with SARS-CoV-2, which is more than its closest known relative, say researchers. But the new virus might be more distantly related, in which case, studying it will help scientists to learn more about the diversity in this virus family, says Etienne Simon-Loriere, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, who plans to sequence the virus, after which it will be shared publicly. That is the case with the other virus, called Rc-o319, identified in a little Japanese horseshoe bat (Rhinolophus cornutus) captured in 2013. That virus shares 81% of its genome with SARS-CoV-2, according to a paper1 published on 2 November — which makes it too distant to provide insights into the pandemic’s origin, says Edward Holmes, a virologist at the University of Sydney in Australia. No matter what the Cambodian team finds, both discoveries are exciting because they confirm that viruses closely related to SARS-CoV-2 are relatively common in Rhinolophus bats, and even in bats found outside China, says Alice Latinne, an evolutionary biologist at the Wildlife Conservation Society Vietnam in Hanoi, who has seen some of the Cambodian team’s analysis but was not involved in the investigation. “This is what we were looking for, and we found it,” says Duong. “It was exciting and surprising at the same time.” Pandemic origins The findings also suggest that other as-yet undiscovered SARS-CoV-2 relatives could be stored in lab freezers, says Aaron Irving, an infectious-diseases researcher at Zhejiang University in Hangzhou, China, who also plans to test stored samples of bats and other mammals for antibodies against SARS-CoV-2. “I did not expect to find a relative of SARS-CoV-2,” says virologist Shin Murakami at the University of Tokyo, who was part of the team that decided to retest frozen animal samples for viruses in the wake of the pandemic. Only a handful of known coronaviruses are closely related to SARS-CoV-2, including its closest known relative, RaTG13. That was discovered in intermediate horseshoe bats (Rhinolophus affinis) in the Chinese province of Yunnan in 2013, and was published2 only earlier this year. There are also several other coronaviruses, found in other Rhinolophus bats and pangolins captured between 2015 and 2019, that scientists now know to be closely related to SARS-CoV-2. “SARS-CoV-2 probably wasn’t a brand new virus that popped up all of a sudden. Viruses in this group existed before we became aware of them in 2019,” says Tracey Goldstein, associate director of the One Health Institute at the University of California, Davis, who is involved with the Cambodian team. Latinne says the discoveries confirm that Rhinolophus bats are the reservoir of these viruses. Virus in Cambodia Duong’s team captured the Shamel’s horseshoe bats in Cambodia as part of the US-government-funded PREDICT project, which surveyed wildlife worldwide for viruses with pandemic potential for decades and ended earlier this year. In April, the US Agency for International Development gave the programme an additional US$3 million and a 6-month extension to look for evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in animal samples — mostly bats, as well as pangolins and other animals — that were sitting in laboratory freezers in Laos, Malaysia, Nepal, Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia. A full report of these investigations is expected in the coming weeks. Duong says preliminary genome sequencing of a short fragment of the new bat virus — 324 base pairs long — showed that it was similar to the same region in SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG-13, suggesting that the three are closely related. That region is highly conserved in coronaviruses, says Latinne, and is often used to quickly identify whether a virus is new or known. But it’s not yet clear whether RaTG-13 or the new virus is more closely related to SARS-CoV-2. It is difficult to say with such a small fragment, says Vibol Hul, a virologist also at the Institute Pasteur in Cambodia, who trapped the Shamel’s horseshoe bats at the entrance to a cave in 2010. The genomes of most known coronaviruses contain about 30,000 base pairs. In a separate analysis, the Cambodia team sequenced some 70% of the new virus’s genome using the technology available locally, says Erik Karlsson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Cambodia, who helped to analyse the bats. Missing from that sequence were the instructions for crucial parts of the virus, such as the genes that encode the spike protein that coronaviruses typically use to enter cells. Sequencing that section will indicate whether this virus can infect human cells, says Duong. The new virus would have to be at least 99% similar to SARS-CoV-2 to be an immediate ancestor of the current pandemic virus, says Irving. The genomes of RaTG13 and SARS-CoV-2 differ by only 4%, but that divergence represents between 40 and 70 years of evolution since they shared a common ancestor. Although decades apart, the viruses are similar enough to use the same receptor to enter cells. Cell studies suggest that RaTG13 could infect people3. Another close relative Of the known coronaviruses related to SARS-CoV-2, the newly discovered Rc-o319 seems to be the most distantly related, says Duong. In cell studies, the Japan team found that the virus can not bind to the receptor that SARS-CoV-2 uses to enter human cells, suggesting that it could not easily infect people. Shin says his colleagues captured more bats in Japan earlier this year, and plan to test them for coronaviruses. And in October, Hul returned to the cave in northern Cambodia to catch more bats. More SARS-CoV-2-related coronaviruses probably exist in Rhinolophus bat populations, which live across the region, says Holmes. “Hopefully, one or more of these will be so closely related to SARS-CoV-2 that we can regard it as the true ancestor.” doi: https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-020-03217-0 References Murakami, S. et al. Emerg. Infect. Dis. https://doi.org/10.3201/eid2612.203386 (2020). Zhou, P. Nature 579, 270–273 (2020). Shang, J. et al. Nature 581, 221–224 (2020).
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CleverBeaver
有意思...
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COHomeSearch
闫博士来点评一下
平明寻白羽
日本团队结论中提出,新冠病毒有可能不起源于中国。

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3386_article
Volume 26, Number 12—December 2020 Dispatch Detection and Characterization of Bat Sarbecovirus Phylogenetically Related to SARS-CoV-2, Japan

Shin Murakami1 , Tomoya Kitamura1, Jin Suzuki, Ryouta Sato, Toshiki Aoi, Marina Fujii, Hiromichi Matsugo, Haruhiko Kamiki, Hiroho Ishida, Akiko Takenaka-Uema, Masayuki Shimojima, and Taisuke Horimoto  Author affiliations: The University of Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan (S. Murakami, T. Kitamura, M. Fujii, H. Matsugo, H. Kamiki, H. Ishida, A. Takenaka-Uema, T. Horimoto); Yamaguchi University, Yamaguchi, Japan (J. Suzuki); Iwate University, Iwate, Japan (R. Sato, T. Aoi); National Institute of Infectious Diseases, Tokyo, Japan (M. Shimojima)

Conclusions Among R. cornutus bats in Japan, we detected sarbecovirus Rc-o319, which is phylogenetically positioned in the same clade as SARS-CoV-2. Sarbecoviruses belonging to this clade previously were detected from other Rhinolophus spp. bats and pangolins (family Manidae) in China and could have played a role in the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 (911). We provide a hypothesis that a bat sarbecovirus with zoonotic potential might exist even outside China, because Rhinolophus spp. bats inhabit Asia, Europe, and Africa (12).
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CleverBeaver
我到现在都觉得武汉初期的传播太吓人 总有什么地方不对
超级携带者 是不是有点像打了疫苗的传播者
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ca563
看几个热点爆发地,有点random的感觉。在不同社区同一时间输入第一个病例,大部分地方并不会爆发,还是要有几个super spreader event这样的天时地利人和。
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somuch
楼上几个一搭一档,呵呵 挣了一块五
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purpledee
大妈大婶表示左X媒体负分滚粗
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CleverBeaver
看几个热点爆发地,有点random的感觉。在不同社区同一时间输入第一个病例,大部分地方并不会爆发,还是要有几个super spreader event这样的天时地利人和。
ca563 发表于 2020-11-24 15:37

这也是的
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CleverBeaver
不过看有的人得了也没事 有的人却立马见上帝
也许人类进化史上确实遇过类似的病毒
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squirrel40
不排除实验室泄漏可能性。 也不能排除有人或者冷冻产品携带的病毒在武汉爆发的可能性。 记得美国早期的一些肉类加工厂也是重灾区。
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BubbleBee
不过看有的人得了也没事 有的人却立马见上帝
也许人类进化史上确实遇过类似的病毒
CleverBeaver 发表于 2020-11-24 15:47

有可能
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CleverBeaver
话说,cdc在考虑隔离可以缩短到7-10天了
庚子
日本团队结论中提出,新冠病毒有可能不起源于中国。

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/12/20-3386_article
Volume 26, Number 12—December 2020 Dispatch Detection and Characterization of Bat Sarbecovirus Phylogenetically Related to SARS-CoV-2, Japan

Shin Murakami1 , Tomoya Kitamura1, Jin Suzuki, Ryouta Sato, Toshiki Aoi, Marina Fujii, Hiromichi Matsugo, Haruhiko Kamiki, Hiroho Ishida, Akiko Takenaka-Uema, Masayuki Shimojima, and Taisuke Horimoto  Author affiliations: The University of Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan (S. Murakami, T. Kitamura, M. Fujii, H. Matsugo, H. Kamiki, H. Ishida, A. Takenaka-Uema, T. Horimoto); Yamaguchi University, Yamaguchi, Japan (J. Suzuki); Iwate University, Iwate, Japan (R. Sato, T. Aoi); National Institute of Infectious Diseases, Tokyo, Japan (M. Shimojima)

Conclusions Among R. cornutus bats in Japan, we detected sarbecovirus Rc-o319, which is phylogenetically positioned in the same clade as SARS-CoV-2. Sarbecoviruses belonging to this clade previously were detected from other Rhinolophus spp. bats and pangolins (family Manidae) in China and could have played a role in the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 (911). We provide a hypothesis that a bat sarbecovirus with zoonotic potential might exist even outside China, because Rhinolophus spp. bats inhabit Asia, Europe, and Africa (12).
平明寻白羽 发表于 2020-11-24 13:18

Sarbecovirus是冠状病毒的亚类,包括了SARS-CoV,SARS-CoV-2和其他各种病毒。SARS-CoV造成SARS,SARS-CoV-2造成COVID-19。你这儿有两个混淆: 1)人家只是说Sarbecovirus这个大类可能在亚洲之外存在,因为宿主蝙蝠分布广泛。并没有说SARS-CoV-2是中国之外起源的。你的引申太多了。 2)就算Sarbecovirus这个相对大类起源于中国之外,并不意味着SARS-CoV-2不是中国起源的。比如分子进化学认为猫科起源于亚洲的假猫,但是狮子公认起源于非洲。
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Maple2316
国外媒体也有被收买了,好像国外的就有说服力,洗地够努力的!瞎引用
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CleverBeaver
国外媒体也有被收买了,好像国外的就有说服力,洗地够努力的!瞎引用
Maple2316 发表于 2020-11-24 16:48

这件事蛮搞的
最早说武毒所有事的就是日本人
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meetmylove2015
反正源头肯定是蝙蝠,怎么传到人就不好说了。国内就不要持续给美国扣锅了。
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strawberrykiwi
81%不比一开始那个蝙蝠virus高啊,我记得那个是86%
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todd6034
这件事蛮搞的
最早说武毒所有事的就是日本人
CleverBeaver 发表于 2020-11-24 16:56

这有什么搞的,日本只有一个人?日本人说这个不影响日本人说那个?除非都是一个人说的