由于240年的经历,美国计票程序上没漏洞可钻。然而,重新计票是法律允许的。拿这次威斯康辛州来说,川普团队扬言要重新计票。就是需要两党人员检查每一张票,从新再来一遍。根据法律,是允许的。但川普团队需要自己出资。威斯康辛州计算出来的大体费用是300万美元。先交钱,便可进行重新计票。直到昨晚,川普团队仍然没交3米林的钱重新计票。等于川普从一开始就是炒作,而非真的认为计票有问题。 在美国历史上,重新计票的次数多了去了,都没一次翻盘过。其实希拉里也重新计票过,在威斯康辛,结果是一票都没多得。高尔在佛罗里达也重新计票过,最后也没多得一张。每次都是白浪费钱。因为这次川普竞选捐款少,不够花的,也就拿不出300万美元重新计票。宾州如果重新计票,可能花费五六个米林,川普就更不敢干了。因为是炒作,忽悠川粉们捐款的,所以,不可能花钱重新计票,再来一遍。本来就是两党人员对每一张选票都检查过的,再来一遍不还是一样? · The Trump campaign has NOT committed to put up the $3 million required to pay for a recount in Wisconsin, per @AmyEGardner . It is an indication that they’re not super serious about pursuing one and that their announcements are mostly for show.
隔壁楼有川普打官司的最新信息,感觉是证据不足,大家不仅要捐款,还要发动起来收集证据。 建议老川贷款的不妥,他已经负债4亿美元了,不一定有银行愿意贷,毕竟有6次破产不良记录,如果证据不足的情况下贷款打官司,赢面少,亏本生意川普不会搞。 Goldstein是Trump团队的律师。法庭问答是这么结束的 THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots? MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no. THE COURT: Are you claiming that there is any undue or improper influence upon the elector with respect to these 592 ballots? MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no
多捐点对各方面都有好处 例如 retirement of debt For each contribution made to the Trump campaign''s joint fundraising committee with the Republican National Committee, 60% will be deposited into the campaign''s general election account for retirement of debt, or into the campaign''s Recount Account if that debt has been paid off. The remaining 40% will go to the Republican National Committee''s Operating account. Any additional money would be deposited in the party''s Legal Proceedings Account or Headquarters account.
· The Trump campaign has NOT committed to put up the $3 million required to pay for a recount in Wisconsin, per @AmyEGardner . It is an indication that they’re not super serious about pursuing one and that their announcements are mostly for show.
都是选民自发去recount,不知道为啥说白浪费钱。
上届大选川普只在锈带三州微弱领先,希拉里拒绝申请重新点票,由绿党申请重新点票,川普发表声明强烈反对。绿党很快在网上募集到700多万美元点票经费。密歇根、宾州的重新点票被法官叫停,威斯康星完成重新点票,川普反而多出几百票。
支持重新点票,不过目前款项远不够,竞选团队是领工资的,老川今年的募款特别少,现在竞选团队欠薪,11月15日工作协议到期,还有5天。捐款条款有一条,50%款项可以用于竞选欠费的偿还。
总之,只有少数人捐不够,尽量发动更多的人去捐,不然是杯水车薪。
首先这几个州都是差距很小,很多都是在自动recount 的范围内,无需交钱。 第二即使差别大交押金一旦recount结果翻转押金要退回。 第三recount只要3M的押金,这点钱凑得齐。
这里估计也捐不到很多,今年华人毕竟比例放在那里。数量不能太强求啦。
大家觉得老川不会输,其中很重要一点是各地的集会声势浩大,最多有几万人,对比拜登的几个人。上面这个link是韩国瑜的竞选集会,有35万人到场,场面非常震撼,比老川的大很多的,结果还是输了。
现在老川和支持者怀疑美国持续了240年的选举法治。支持老川打官司,但要提供证据,由法院宣判,不能自己宣布,除非是发动政变战争,这个是目前美国法治社会的基础。
法院判了,无论输赢,大部分人会接受,因为这些人认可美国的司法公证。
有一部分人如果结果不是自己想要的,就不接受,这些人无论川粉川黑都必须有一个认为美国司法已经没有公证可言的逻辑才能自圆其说。
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台湾的情况和这里完全相反的,韩国瑜是土共支持的,你知道台湾渗透了多少土共的间谍和眼线吗?像周恩来可以把地下党安排到蒋介石的秘书中,很多台湾的媒体也有土共的影子,土共是希望韩国瑜上去,论声势,大概只有土共和朝鲜那种国家,有多少人就有多少人,所以韩国瑜的集会人多无可厚非。毕竟那么大资金搞下去的,蔡英文为什么会赢?就是因为去年香港的斗争,让台湾人看清了土共的面目,你说蔡英文的胜利不如说是台湾人希望民主的胜利,虽然蔡英文也有不少槽点。 美国这里相反,土共暗地里面支持的Biden,不是Trump,Trump集会的这些人都是自愿去的,而且左煤四年打压Trump,还是有那么多人去Trump的集会。这个就好比Biden是韩国瑜,大财团支持、大媒体支持,Trump就好比是蔡英文,虽然有不少槽点,但是讲的是民主。 如果台湾今天是韩国瑜上台的话,那么肯定就会是下一个香港。就像土共把陈水扁送进监狱一样。
Goldstein是Trump团队的律师。法庭问答是这么结束的
THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots? MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no. THE COURT: Are you claiming that there is any undue or improper influence upon the elector with respect to these 592 ballots? MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no
For each contribution made to the Trump campaign''s joint fundraising committee with the Republican National Committee, 60% will be deposited into the campaign''s general election account for retirement of debt, or into the campaign''s Recount Account if that debt has been paid off. The remaining 40% will go to the Republican National Committee''s Operating account. Any additional money would be deposited in the party''s Legal Proceedings Account or Headquarters account.