如果死亡率不变的话,就说明根本没有挤兑啊。 挤兑的话,死亡率会大幅提高,因为本来能治愈的病人会因为医疗资源不足而得不到充分救治,因而导致死亡。 在确诊人数增加的情况下,只要没达到挤兑,死亡率肯定是稳定小幅下降的,因为治疗经验越来越多了。 pop 发表于 2020-10-25 13:18
Note she said 三周以后可能死亡人数大增 You two are not even talking about the same thing. She is saying that the amount of people infected is trendiing up. There will be trouble in the future. You are talking about the system is still managing currently.
Note she said 三周以后可能死亡人数大增 You two are not even talking about the same thing. She is saying that the amount of people infected is trendiing up. There will be trouble in the future. You are talking about the system is still managing currently. doorsopen 发表于 2020-10-25 13:23
Eran Segal@segal_eran · Oct 20Lockdown is always indicative of failure to manage the pandemic In Israel, managing the pandemic based on the capacity of the healthcare system was the one major mistake from which all else followed Define a capacity and you will reach it, at record levels and high death toll
现在到底这个策略还存在吗?有没有人讨论一下美国新冠人数这么高,和这个策略有没有关系?
什么时候tracking过?从来没有要求测试确诊的接触人群。连谁得了都不能让人知道。
亲身经历。我们这里要求了。
你们那里没要求说明你们那的health department 瞎搞?
我们这里跟确诊的人接触的人会被通知检测和隔离的。
BLM游行的人有得新冠的吗?请问你们那是如何tracking的?
如果死亡率不变的话,就说明根本没有挤兑啊。 挤兑的话,死亡率会大幅提高,因为本来能治愈的病人会因为医疗资源不足而得不到充分救治,因而导致死亡。
在确诊人数增加的情况下,只要没达到挤兑,死亡率肯定是稳定小幅下降的,因为治疗经验越来越多了。
I thought America is going for "herd immunity". Look at how many countries ban American visitors.
Note she said 三周以后可能死亡人数大增
You two are not even talking about the same thing. She is saying that the amount of people infected is trendiing up. There will be trouble in the future. You are talking about the system is still managing currently.
yup
谁得了不让你知道不代表没有追踪,我邻居就在tracking部门工作
得新冠的连有没有参加BLM游行都不能问,你倒说说你邻居他们是如何tracking的?
确诊的也只是让在家隔离,隔离期有没有出门,有没有再传染别人,又是如何在tracking的?
反正我现在是特别羡慕佛州,关得比谁都晚,说恢复正常就恢复正常,curve不flatten也没击穿医疗体系,受得影响比加州小多了。
佛州热啊,大家可以在户外,得了症状也轻些
7/8月的时候说佛罗里达德克萨斯亚利桑那要爆了,因为天太热了,大家都呆在室内了。
德州哪里?我在奥斯汀地区,大多数地方不戴口罩就不让进啊。
以色列二爆了,有以色列公卫学家总结以色列的经验,就指出跟据医院住院率指定防疫措施是错误的,按照这个方针,这个指标是一定会被突破的。
等我有空找找,在推特上有个系列。
纽约非重症不收,三四千死在家里,所以会有医院没有爆的illusion。其实是根本超出收治能力,只能制定非重症不收,高龄不入ICU的冷酷政策。
这个系列总结以色列第二次高峰的经验教训
Eran Segal @segal_eran · Oct 20 Lockdown is always indicative of failure to manage the pandemic In Israel, managing the pandemic based on the capacity of the healthcare system was the one major mistake from which all else followed Define a capacity and you will reach it, at record levels and high death toll
怎么可能。德州公共场合都必须戴口罩。Costco不戴口罩根本不会让你进去。
纽约到现在也不能说完全控制住了,经常会有一些区变成red zone,然后就会关闭学校,限制公共场合人数
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