A record high share of rent cuts contributed to a Manhattan median asking rent of $2,990 in the third quarter of 2020 — the first time this figure has been below $3,000 in nine years, according to StreetEasy’s Q3 2020 Market Reports. The share of Manhattan rental listings on StreetEasy that was discounted during the third quarter rose 22.7 percentage points year over year to a record high of 44.7%, as landlords made attempts to attract tenants amid a rental market that has struggled considerably since the coronavirus pandemic hit the city. Meanwhile, rental inventory in Manhattan increased by 69.8%, with 72,267 listings available during the quarter — nearly 30,000 more than last year. Discounts didn’t only become more common, they also grew substantially larger. The median rental discount in Manhattan hit 9.1% off the asking rent — 5.2 percentage points higher than last year. In dollar amounts, the median discount being offered by Manhattan landlords was $272 during the third quarter — $139 more than what was being offered in 2019. The Manhattan rentals market had the most drastic spike in discounts, but the outer boroughs were not far behind. The share of rentals discounted reached a record high of 30.7% in Brooklyn, and a near-high of 26.6% in Queens. The massive spike in discounts was one factor behind the StreetEasy Rent Index falling year over year in all three boroughs analyzed. This quarter marks the first time in StreetEasy records, dating to 2010, that all three boroughs saw rents fall. The Manhattan Rent Index fell 7.8% year over year. Median asking rent in Q3 was $2,990. The Brooklyn Rent Index fell 2.5% year over year. Median asking rent in Q3 was $2,599. The Queens Rent Index fell 2.2% year over year. Median asking rent in Q3 was $2,200 “Renters are no longer willing to pay the commute premium of living in Manhattan when they do not need to commute to an office five days a week,” said StreetEasy Economist Nancy Wu. “Landlords across the city, but particularly in Manhattan, have to be willing to face some really hard hits if they want to fill their units. They’re being forced to cut the location premium out of their asking price in order to compete with larger and more affordable apartments in the outer boroughs.” These decreases in StreetEasy’s Rent Indices are likely a conservative estimate of how much rents have fallen. This is a result of a new StreetEasy product enhancement that brings new transparency to rental pricing in NYC by clearly stating rental concessions, gross rent, and net effective rent on listings with concessions. With this new feature, the StreetEasy Rent Index will now track changes in gross rent rather than net-effective rent. Nearly Half of Midtown Manhattan Listings Got a Rent Cut Renters looking to find a deal in Manhattan had the most luck in Midtown [ii], where 48% of rentals were discounted during the third quarter — up 25.9 percentage points from last year. Midtown rent prices dropped 5.7% to $3,000, as demand for units close to Midtown office buildings fell amid the pandemic. Brooklyn Rents Dropped for the First Time Since 2010 The third quarter brought the first year-over-year rent drop in Brooklyn in StreetEasy records, though the drop was much smaller than the decline seen in Manhattan. Boroughwide, the Rent Index fell 2.5% year over year. The drop in rents was led by Northwest Brooklyn [iii], one of the borough’s most expensive submarkets, where rents fell 2.1% annually. Rents in other areas of the borough, including North Brooklyn [iv] and East Brooklyn [v], remained flat year over year, showing that demand for Brooklyn rentals is relatively higher than current levels in Manhattan. Queens Rental Inventory Spiked to All-Time High There were 15,896 rental listings available in Queens during the third quarter — up 41.1% compared to last year. While this spike is significant, it is lower than the massive inventory growth seen in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Queens was the only borough analyzed in which some submarkets experienced an annual drop in rental inventory. Northeast Queens [vi], South Queens [vii], and the Rockaways [viii] all had fewer rental listings available this past quarter than they did last year. This shows that demand for relatively affordable housing in the city remains stable.
New York state takes up about 1% of the land mass of the United States. In that small space, however, it manages to contribute 8% of the whole country's GDP. if NY is going down the toilet, can't imagine what would happen to US
New York state takes up about 1% of the land mass of the United States. In that small space, however, it manages to contribute 8% of the whole country's GDP. if NY is going down the toilet, can't imagine what would happen to US celielee 发表于 2020-10-23 11:54
NY GDP是虚的。曼哈顿里银行paper pusher。 逃离城市的最大原因是BLM，不是新冠。第五大道被砸烂了。大家对defund police后城市治安没有信心。
New York state takes up about 1% of the land mass of the United States. In that small space, however, it manages to contribute 8% of the whole country's GDP. if NY is going down the toilet, can't imagine what would happen to US celielee 发表于 2020-10-23 11:54
Take a look at university towns, there are tons of young people but students still leave after graduation as there is not many good local jobs. If there is, many wouldn't be leaving for big cities. Jobs are already there in big cities (let's put better socializing opportunaties in big cities aside for an argument's sake), i.e. already established. This is not a chicken egg problem, it is a job opportunity problem. Plus jobs rely on experienced workers and training of non-experienced workers and big cities tend to have more experienced/talented workers (not necessarily young ones).
这个。。。首先先不说citi在华尔街的社会地位，哈哈哈哈，我就说下这个人吧，这个人明显是为了他的黑人兄弟们去的啊。我看过他的采访，他对公立学校改革不输白思豪，可能还比白思豪更有执行力，毕竟白思豪做啥啥不行 After the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police officers, McGuire told CNBC that the killing was "cold-blooded murder" and called on corporate leaders to take the necessary steps to combat racism. He recently authored a preface to a Citi report titled "Closing the Racial Inequality Gaps." In the introduction, the banking executive reflects on how he''s seen as a Black man. "Yet even today, with all those credentials and as one of the leading executives on Wall Street, I am still seen first as a six-foot-four, two-hundred-pound Black man wherever I go — even in my own neighborhood. I could have been George Floyd," he writes.
Take a look at university towns, there are tons of young people but students still leave after graduation as there is not many good local jobs. If there is, many wouldn''''t be leaving for big cities. Jobs are already there in big cities (let''''s put better socializing opportunaties in big cities aside for an argument''''s sake), i.e. already established. This is not a chicken egg problem, it is a job opportunity problem. Plus jobs rely on experienced workers and training of non-experienced workers and big cities tend to have more experienced/talented workers (not necessarily young ones). yolandos 发表于 2020-10-23 12:29
大学城和普通城市根本没法比。年轻人是多，但是他们已经是有“full time job”的全职学生。而且大学城的结构和普通大城市根本不一样，大学城支撑不起多元化的职业，因为人口结构太过单一。这些有"full time job“的全职学生在那生活4年，他们不会购房，绝大部分不会生孩子，消费能力和成人比偏低，绝大部分也不会在那里建立起自己的career. 就如，你开公司，在各地优惠的情况都差不多的前提下，你是会挑人多的地方还是荒郊野外。您的原话不是也是说了jobs rely on talented workers么,还是人多推动了jobs。Plus jobs rely on experienced workers and training of non-experienced workers and big cities tend to have more experienced/talented workers (not necessarily young ones)
这个。。。首先先不说citi在华尔街的社会地位，哈哈哈哈，我就说下这个人吧，这个人明显是为了他的黑人兄弟们去的啊。我看过他的采访，他对公立学校改革不输白思豪，可能还比白思豪更有执行力，毕竟白思豪做啥啥不行 After the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police officers, McGuire told CNBC that the killing was "cold-blooded murder" and called on corporate leaders to take the necessary steps to combat racism. He recently authored a preface to a Citi report titled "Closing the Racial Inequality Gaps." In the introduction, the banking executive reflects on how he''''s seen as a Black man. "Yet even today, with all those credentials and as one of the leading executives on Wall Street, I am still seen first as a six-foot-four, two-hundred-pound Black man wherever I go — even in my own neighborhood. I could have been George Floyd," he writes. 我是马甲 发表于 2020-10-23 12:32
这个和Citi的地位有什么关系？ 华尔街一向支持conservative, pro-business的人选。 有问题吗？ He shared his experience of being a black man. There definitely is racial inequality in America whether you admit it or not. I don''t see it as a problem.
这个和Citi的地位有什么关系？ 华尔街一向支持conservative, pro-business的人选。 有问题吗？ He shared his experience of being a black man. There definitely is racial inequality in America whether you admit it or not. I don''t see it as a problem. Pompom 发表于 2020-10-23 12:45
华尔街那个我不想争论了没意义。 他可以share他的experience但是他的政治主张是closing the race gap，而且只是针对黑人群体的，没有带上拉丁亚裔的朋友们啊。而且针对公立学校的改革对中产（无关race）的杀伤力太大了，硬塞public housing的学生去传统中产10分学校，你是房东你心里舒服了？你看看上西改革后的房价就知道了，上东也快了，其他区还逃的了吗？
大学城和普通城市根本没法比。年轻人是多，但是他们已经是有“full time job”的全职学生。而且大学城的结构和普通大城市根本不一样，大学城支撑不起多元化的职业，因为人口结构太过单一。这些有"full time job“的全职学生在那生活4年，他们不会购房，绝大部分不会生孩子，消费能力和成人比偏低，绝大部分也不会在那里建立起自己的career. 就如，你开公司，在各地优惠的情况都差不多的前提下，你是会挑人多的地方还是荒郊野外。您的原话不是也是说了jobs rely on talented workers么,还是人多推动了jobs。Plus jobs rely on experienced workers and training of non-experienced workers and big cities tend to have more experienced/talented workers (not necessarily young ones) lesity 发表于 2020-10-23 12:42
You missed my point. Chicken/egg problem is origination problem and there is no definitive answer to that. For most young people, the jobs are already there and they go to big cities mostly because of jobs are there, not because there are more people in big cities. Also for most young people, they go to big cities not to creat jobs so again there is no chicken/egg questions. An employer might choose to go to big cities because of talents and markets. Now these two feed on each other but that is a different topic. My assertion that people follow jobs still stands.
纽约好像真的不行了！孩子在私校，同学中有1/3来自纽市，自从三月开始大部分都离开了纽约市，搬到别的地方去了，学校开学也都是从外地返校的，当然这些家庭大都是富人。前几天一个agent跟我讲，short hills的房价已经回来很多，走的很快，而且short hills的 house 租金也上涨了！很多纽约人在考虑搬出来。
夏天是空了些，开学了很多人都回来了。 我家住upper west side, 我时不时Chelsea逛，孩子同学家一半在上东。看到的热闹都是亲眼见的。你看的新闻报道都是哪天的？ 上西的homeless确实有些还没走，但是不妨碍人们热闹的生活。 纽约肯定不如疫情前，但是也没你说的那么糟。 朋友在某银行贷款部，说很多去郊区买房子的并没有放弃city里的公寓。我身边很多朋友也都是买了郊外的country house 当然以后几年如何还说不来，看下一任市长吧.
Nearly Half of Midtown Manhattan Listings Got a Rent Cut Renters looking to find a deal in Manhattan had the most luck in Midtown [ii], where 48% of rentals were discounted during the third quarter — up 25.9 percentage points from last year. Midtown rent prices dropped 5.7% to $3,000, as demand for units close to Midtown office buildings fell amid the pandemic. Brooklyn Rents Dropped for the First Time Since 2010 The third quarter brought the first year-over-year rent drop in Brooklyn in StreetEasy records, though the drop was much smaller than the decline seen in Manhattan. Boroughwide, the Rent Index fell 2.5% year over year. The drop in rents was led by Northwest Brooklyn [iii], one of the borough’s most expensive submarkets, where rents fell 2.1% annually. Rents in other areas of the borough, including North Brooklyn [iv] and East Brooklyn [v], remained flat year over year, showing that demand for Brooklyn rentals is relatively higher than current levels in Manhattan. Queens Rental Inventory Spiked to All-Time High There were 15,896 rental listings available in Queens during the third quarter — up 41.1% compared to last year. While this spike is significant, it is lower than the massive inventory growth seen in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Queens was the only borough analyzed in which some submarkets experienced an annual drop in rental inventory. Northeast Queens [vi], South Queens [vii], and the Rockaways [viii] all had fewer rental listings available this past quarter than they did last year. This shows that demand for relatively affordable housing in the city remains stable.
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朱利安尼是个大家长式的市长，对当时的纽约是剂良药。而且朱利安尼当选，当时整个意大利社区空前支持，黑手党才能一下管好。枯墨当选墨西哥人买他账吗。
修个屁城铁，城铁修好了城里那些low life不就能到达我们乡下了吗？他们可别来！
🛋️ 沙发板凳
轻徭薄赋, 政府那里有钱买票仓呀？
年轻人爱往大城市跑是因为工作机会，工作机会开始spreading out, 那年轻人也会跟着spreading out
请问曼哈顿的房价呢？
都是自己的选择，有税少的地方，人家也要权衡利弊决定不去。不过人口已经外流了
现在是买方市场，还是有人买， 价格上不去就是了，曼哈顿有些地方的价格低于brooklyn的好区了
德国的记录片里报道.
纽约的中产阶层 大量迁往 周围的卫星城市啊.
建议纽约 把周围的卫星城市 之间全部修建城铁吧, 每10分钟一次到达市区中心吧.
这样一来 大家全部住在纽约周围的卫星城市.
纽约中心 的大楼全部推倒重来吧, 改建为森林和公园吧!
美国的面积那么大, 但是大城市的规划很差很差啊.
哎
如果让德国人来规划美国的城市, 肯定是整整齐齐, 干干净净,
大家全部分散在大城市周围的卫星城市, 大城市的中心可以全部搞成森林啊.
纽约周围的卫星城市很漂亮啊, 绿化很好啊.
为啥大家不能住在大城市周围的卫星城市啊.
为啥大城市工作机会多？那是因为年轻人多。这是鸡和蛋的问题。
Fb在纽约都快10年了
还有他们的选址在penn station 附近，就是为了方便大家住在NJ和Long Island commute来上班的，员工不用住在纽约。你看下penn station附近多少公司大多数员工每天从长岛NJ来吧。
手滑点了踩 不好意思
要做好熬十年以上的心理准备。朱利安里之前纽约是什么样估计大家现象不出来，意大利黑手党唐人街的黑社会横行，时代广场上大量的站街妓女和皮条客，那些卖旅游纪念品的小店以前都是色情小店，投币可以看里面的真人裸女。
这也太可怕了。 如果真要熬10年， 很多人， 小房东，大房东都撑不住吧
NY GDP是虚的。曼哈顿里银行paper pusher。
逃离城市的最大原因是BLM，不是新冠。第五大道被砸烂了。大家对defund police后城市治安没有信心。
这段类比是搞笑的吗？ 上海地理面积占中国多少？gpd contribute又是多少？ 文科生写的吧
现在在家工作，就不需要跑纽约了
明年白思豪也要下台了， 对纽约房市也是利好。
你才是胡扯蛋
网购，WFH这些都早就有了，都那么多年了。但是曼哈顿一直没有受到影响。大家还是往里面挤。现在突然大范围撤退根本不是网购和WFH问题。
BLM和defund police是根本原因。治安不好晚上不敢出门各种城市娱乐活动都受影响。住在城里的好处就打折扣。地铁赤字，租控导致房东无法及时更新公寓，等等也是次要原因。
这位朋友，你看了明年市长candidates吗？比白思豪只能更只能更左啊。你是中介或者是地主婆吧
买得起养不起
短时间内，我不再看好美国的房子
买下来，养到经济恢复？何年何月？我算了算撑不住
说的是，可是养到什么时候能回升呢？
要是囤着没有持有成本。。 这谁囤的起。有钱的姐姐们上吧。我们就歇了
一个个都好坑爹啊，把nyc搞死了，谁来支付这些人都左都要死政策
肯定不完全因为blm，也不完全因为WFH，看看曼哈顿到处是homeless，乱七八糟，中产上中产依赖的公立教育被搞成这样，这些都逼着中产走
是你没看吧。 随便挑个candidate， 比如Citigroup Vice Chairman Ray McGuire。 他的政策要是比白思豪左， 华尔街也不会都支持他。
怎么可能降property tax，还会继续涨的。那么多有钱人和高薪的中产办到了郊区，city的deficit这么大，降property tax的话钱从哪里来？难道靠拜登当选了以后加税从其他州的韭菜身上多收税来联邦bailout纽约吗
Take a look at university towns, there are tons of young people but students still leave after graduation as there is not many good local jobs. If there is, many wouldn't be leaving for big cities. Jobs are already there in big cities (let's put better socializing opportunaties in big cities aside for an argument's sake), i.e. already established. This is not a chicken egg problem, it is a job opportunity problem. Plus jobs rely on experienced workers and training of non-experienced workers and big cities tend to have more experienced/talented workers (not necessarily young ones).
这个。。。首先先不说citi在华尔街的社会地位，哈哈哈哈，我就说下这个人吧，这个人明显是为了他的黑人兄弟们去的啊。我看过他的采访，他对公立学校改革不输白思豪，可能还比白思豪更有执行力，毕竟白思豪做啥啥不行
After the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police officers, McGuire told CNBC that the killing was "cold-blooded murder" and called on corporate leaders to take the necessary steps to combat racism. He recently authored a preface to a Citi report titled "Closing the Racial Inequality Gaps." In the introduction, the banking executive reflects on how he''s seen as a Black man. "Yet even today, with all those credentials and as one of the leading executives on Wall Street, I am still seen first as a six-foot-four, two-hundred-pound Black man wherever I go — even in my own neighborhood. I could have been George Floyd," he writes.
把纽约市区和周围的乡村, 小镇全部合并吧??
Queens的房价还在涨啊，小颈这里single family house从15年到现在涨了起码50%，而且房源很少，基本都只有老人房放出来
New York, NY = Manhattan
Little Neck = Suburbs
想多了。 付不起还有法拍嘛。
也是哈～只有住曼哈顿的才配称作New Yorker
网购是癌症。 bLm是流感。 身体不好运气不好的，流感也还可以死人的。
大学城和普通城市根本没法比。年轻人是多，但是他们已经是有“full time job”的全职学生。而且大学城的结构和普通大城市根本不一样，大学城支撑不起多元化的职业，因为人口结构太过单一。这些有"full time job“的全职学生在那生活4年，他们不会购房，绝大部分不会生孩子，消费能力和成人比偏低，绝大部分也不会在那里建立起自己的career. 就如，你开公司，在各地优惠的情况都差不多的前提下，你是会挑人多的地方还是荒郊野外。您的原话不是也是说了jobs rely on talented workers么,还是人多推动了jobs。Plus jobs rely on experienced workers and training of non-experienced workers and big cities tend to have more experienced/talented workers (not necessarily young ones)
这个和Citi的地位有什么关系？
华尔街一向支持conservative, pro-business的人选。 有问题吗？
He shared his experience of being a black man. There definitely is racial inequality in America whether you admit it or not. I don''t see it as a problem.
受不了的搬走了，然后去其他州继续选民主党。。。
华尔街那个我不想争论了没意义。
他可以share他的experience但是他的政治主张是closing the race gap，而且只是针对黑人群体的，没有带上拉丁亚裔的朋友们啊。而且针对公立学校的改革对中产（无关race）的杀伤力太大了，硬塞public housing的学生去传统中产10分学校，你是房东你心里舒服了？你看看上西改革后的房价就知道了，上东也快了，其他区还逃的了吗？
啥时候房价能跌回10年前啊？
马上就差不多了
合并啊!!!
中国的城市最喜欢和周围的县城, 乡村合并啊.
虽然房租降了，但房客选择会越来越难，房东们会十分小心。纽约未来会是空房和homeless并存
我们正经收入信用分数高的房客有什么好难的～房东爱我们还来不及
下三滥民主党统治的州，就是这样的命运。
You missed my point. Chicken/egg problem is origination problem and there is no definitive answer to that. For most young people, the jobs are already there and they go to big cities mostly because of jobs are there, not because there are more people in big cities. Also for most young people, they go to big cities not to creat jobs so again there is no chicken/egg questions. An employer might choose to go to big cities because of talents and markets. Now these two feed on each other but that is a different topic.
My assertion that people follow jobs still stands.
狂跌的是豪宅。 刚需的没怎么跌。
同意观点。但是“昨日黄花”不是一个成语，正确的成语应该是“明日黄花”。
给钱的人各种被逼走，只剩下拿钱的人自high。还能指望什么呢？
都走了谁来喂这些伸手要钱的
那么到NYC度假时Airbnb 就便宜多了。
鉴于长岛的地理位置，如果纽约市进入不良循环，长岛前景也不看好。还不如在新泽西买房，至少可进可退。
Upper East和Chelsea空了40%了，搜下英文报道？
upper west热闹是热闹，主要是homeless hotel热闹，你看看新闻吧。
精英私校的家长搬到country house就不用付city tax养闲人了，city情况真的很糟
美国大城市规划差， 是因为很多大城市历史久， 在大家还没有规划这个观念得时候， 城市就起来了。
德国城市规划好， 也许是因为当初的老城二战都被摧毁了， 然后干脆直接重新规划了。
纽约垃圾都只能丢门口等垃圾车来收，夏天真是臭死了
北卡的房子好便宜。我盆友和老公从纽约搬去北卡在她姐姐家小区买了房子，住的很开心
夏天是空了些，开学了很多人都回来了。 我家住upper west side, 我时不时Chelsea逛，孩子同学家一半在上东。看到的热闹都是亲眼见的。你看的新闻报道都是哪天的？ 上西的homeless确实有些还没走，但是不妨碍人们热闹的生活。
纽约肯定不如疫情前，但是也没你说的那么糟。
朋友在某银行贷款部，说很多去郊区买房子的并没有放弃city里的公寓。我身边很多朋友也都是买了郊外的country house
当然以后几年如何还说不来，看下一任市长吧.
你住的什么地方垃圾随便丢门口？ 地下室有专门收垃圾处，分门别类。垃圾袋扎紧，等收垃圾那天再放到街上垃圾车收走。 我在纽约待了十几年，起码经常去的地方夏天没闻到臭味。 郊区的sfh是都收到家里车库的垃圾桶，垃圾车一周收一次垃圾，那个反而夏天有些味道。 但是现在市里负责垃圾部门没钱了，不能每天清理大街上的公共垃圾箱，时不时看见堆满的垃圾箱。
Th都是垃圾日都门口的。 真的挺臭的。 而且狗喜欢尿一尿mark一下。 很多时候还有行人把狗屎和小垃圾丢在你的垃圾带上。 纽约臭是事实吧。
夏天饭店户外吃饭垃圾袋就在脚下。你没看到就不存在吗
代理的话也能信？
纽约的跑北卡买房子？那是不用上班的？不用做生意的？
真要完全自由，干嘛选北卡？
感谢民主党啰。小年轻年纪小小支持一下liberal, 我觉的正常；最不解的是一堆大叔大妈，有儿有女有正经工作，有房有车有资产的，去支持猪党，老大不小还不动脑，被那几个无身份带节奏的牵着鼻子走。
修个屁城铁，城铁修好了城里那些low life不就能到达我们乡下了吗？他们可别来！