说说副总统辩论吧,会是自由派和保守派的巅峰论战吗?感觉会比川普拜登的第一场精彩

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sdggv3
楼主 (北美华人网)
俩人都是年富力强,辩论能力也够!
Watch Live Wednesday, Oct. 7 at 9 p.m. ET: Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris face-off for their first debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6znNsWc2Hs


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jasmine123
1251 楼
川总把女儿女婿安插到白宫那才叫裙带关系
titicaca 发表于 2020-10-09 21:31

是呀,不然那
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jasmine123
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原来读了MD,还是要玩荡妇羞辱这一套
Free_fish 发表于 2020-10-07 23:14

思想的老朽不是念几年医书能进化的了的。
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jasmine123
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叹为观止,以前还以为这里的大妈们只恨成功的亚裔女性,原来只要是成功的女性,她们都恨,真搞不懂什么心理~~
ChristinaW 发表于 2020-10-07 23:01

经典的弱者心理。
没能力面对强者(男性权利),痛恨和自己一样的性别但表现出有可能和男性有一样权利。
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jasmine123
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她不是黑人 很多美国人眼里她是带着一半亚洲血统的
mingdrew 发表于 2020-10-07 22:46

美国的文化是, 一滴血是黑的,你就是黑的。(这是充满种族歧视的过去留下的)
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titicaca
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这个经典的说法叫“裙带关系”
jasmine123 发表于 2020-10-09 21:11

川总把女儿女婿安插到白宫那才叫裙带关系

 

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yaeryiyi
确实非常期待!可以说是美国历史上最让人期待的一场副总统辩论了!

美国2020年大选副总统候选人辩论会7日将在犹他州登场。共和党副总统候选人潘斯(Mike Pence)和民主党副总统候选人贺锦丽(Kamala Harris)这场辩论,被评为美国历史上最重要的一次副总统辩论。分析人士称,川普感染新冠及其近来对新冠的态度和表现,将成为双方不可避免的焦点之一。而这次副总统辩论将会把总统竞选推向白热化阶段。
我觉得Pence会被Harris活剥了。
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olivia0216
是的,希望可以好好听政策了,不用看互喷口水
梅干茶泡饭
贺锦丽口才好 但是举止一般 总是晃来晃去的
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justwatching
预测这个爬上位的瞪眼怪笑女会装,这次一定会收敛她的本性,Pence搞不过她的
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Sisyphus
感觉今晚会有点干货
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michaelcrm
我觉得Pence会被Harris活剥了。
菲 发表于 2020-10-07 19:09

不一定! 各自会有被对方攻击的点!
Here are five things to watch in Wednesday night's debate:
Distance and plexiglass barriers
Even before the pandemic is mentioned at Wednesday night's debate, its presence will be obvious. Debate organizers, in response to the spread of the coronavirus inside the White House and the fact that Pence was at an event that was seemingly the genesis of the White House spread just over a week ago, made a number of changes to their safety protocols, including putting Pence and Harris more than 12 feet apart, using plexiglass as barriers between the candidates and requiring everyone in the audience wear masks.
The coronavirus risks around the debate led some Democrats to question why the contest was even happening, particularly given Pence's proximity to those who have recently tested positive. Jesse Schonau, Pence's physician, said in a memo released Tuesday that the vice president does not need to quarantine because he was not a "close contact" of anyone who has tested positive as defined by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Pence has had multiple negative coronavirus tests. But the changes to the format will make a point that Pence, who chairs the administration's coronavirus task force, and the Trump campaign are seeking to avoid: The pandemic has upended nearly every aspect of American life, including the way the country holds political debates. Pence's team challenged the installation of plexiglass barriers around him at the debate after the commission announced that they would be used, before ultimately agreeing to their installation. But their resistance highlighted how the Trump campaign wants to avoid the omnipresence of the coronavirus and the worry among some in the President's orbit that it could set a precedent for the forthcoming debates between Trump and Biden.
Harris' challenge on coronavirus
Trump has tried to cast his Covid diagnosis and supposed recovery as a bonus. In his telling, he's a fearless leader who took on the virus and triumphed -- setting a model for bravery in the face of a pandemic. He's made no mention of those in his inner circle who've fallen ill, nor the others on the White House staff -- political and nonpartisan professionals -- who are sick now. Empathy for the more than 210,000 Americans to die from the disease, and their families, has also been absent from his public statements. For Harris, the challenge is to use this massive stage and draw a line -- clear enough for anyone to see and impossible to ignore -- from Trump's handling of the pandemic as President to the growing fiasco inside his administration. She must do this while the President's own prognosis remains unknown. And even if, as Biden said on Monday night, his infection is largely the result of his own refusal to follow standard safety procedures, personal broadsides against him while he is battling the virus could carry some potential risk.
Pence needs to project calm
It has been a chaotic week for the Trump campaign, punctuated by the President himself testing positive for the virus and spending three days in the hospital but beginning with a frenzied debate between the President and Biden. Pence's goals in Wednesday night's debate are to project a calm that Trump was unable to signal last week, while defending the administration's handling of the pandemic and delivering the Trump campaign's messaging that the virus should not dominate American life.
It's a difficult task: More than 210,000 Americans have died from the virus, small businesses across the country have been decimated and the prospect of more economic stimulus for Americans was rejected on Tuesday evening when the President urged Republicans to walk away from negotiations with Democrats, tanking the stock market. But Pence, according to people who know him well or have debated him in the past, is one of the most skilled politicians at redirecting a question to a topic he wants to focus on. "Mike is a good debater," said John Gregg, an Indiana Democrat who went to law school with Pence and ran against him for governor in 2012. "On certain questions that he gets, if he doesn't want to answer it, he is just a master at not answering it and pivoting to talking points."
Harris faces the ghosts of policies past  
Harris entered the Democratic presidential primary as a supporter of "Medicare for All," the national health insurance plan written and championed by her competitor Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont. By the time she dropped out, in December 2019, the senator from California had rowed back her support and unveiled her own plan, which called for transitioning to a government-run program over 10 years but allowing private insurers to participate. Now she is making the case for Biden and his proposal to beef up the Affordable Care Act and create a public option on top of it. Trump and Pence don't have a credible health care plan of their own, but that won't stop the vice president from trying to paint Harris as a tool of the "radical left" over both her initial backing of Medicare for All and her own proposal. Her ability to pivot out of that conversation and into one about the current administration's policies, both on the pandemic and their support for a lawsuit that threatens the ACA, could be a defining moment.  
Unanswered questions
In the first presidential debate, Biden wouldn't directly answer a question about whether he would support increasing the number of justices on the Supreme Court. He has also not given a yes-or-no answer to whether he would support -- if Democrats win control of the Senate -- abolishing the filibuster. Trump couldn't get answers from Biden, but Pence might try to press Harris on those questions as he seeks to argue that the Biden-Harris ticket is beholden to the Democratic Party's progressive wing, which has sought the changes. Pence, meanwhile, could have to address Trump's seesawing tweets Tuesday about an economic stimulus. The President took to Twitter to announce that he had ended negotiations with Pelosi over a massive economic package. Then, hours later, he tweeted "True!" in response to Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell arguing for more financial help from Congress.
梅干茶泡饭
上一次男女混合大战VP辩论还是2008年拜登VS佩林 太精彩了 大家有空看看。。。
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michaelcrm
是的,希望可以好好听政策了,不用看互喷口水
olivia0216 发表于 2020-10-07 19:10

确实,第一场,听得真闹心啊,特别理解近70%的美国人听后的感觉是annoyed!
预测这个爬上位的瞪眼怪笑女会装,这次一定会收敛她的本性,Pence搞不过她的
justwatching 发表于 2020-10-07 19:10

我们单位里,中老年泼妇基本上是无敌的。
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nn2000
这个pence貌似连inner circle都进不去,trump找他当vice看中的是颜值吧? 他一直花大把时间讨好uneducated voters
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sdggv3
我觉得Pence会被Harris活剥了。
菲 发表于 2020-10-07 19:09

Harris的口才的确好,但“黑历史”也不少啊!
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sdggv3
感觉今晚会有点干货
Sisyphus 发表于 2020-10-07 19:11

我也是这种感觉。第一场真是很失望!
梅干茶泡饭
确实,第一场,听得真闹心啊,特别理解近70%的美国人听后的感觉是annoyed!
michaelcrm 发表于 2020-10-07 19:12

总统辩论太强势的反而丢分 民众经历2020之后就想听点安抚人心的话
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sdggv3
我们单位里,中老年泼妇基本上是无敌的。
菲 发表于 2020-10-07 19:12

但在观众眼里,这未必是加分的啊
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profyao
彭斯会用“极左“、”暴力”问题逼问Harris Harris会用“堕胎”,新冠应对质问彭斯
没跑的~~~
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mise88
Kamala Harris 是傑出的檢察官。身經百戰。這種1on1 Debate 是她主場。Pence 絕對劣勢。

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Biden
民主党的 Harris 大妈太恐怖了
感觉比德国的白左大妈还凶恶

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sdggv3
彭斯会用“极左“、”暴力”问题逼问Harris Harris会用“堕胎”,新冠应对质问彭斯
没跑的~~~

profyao 发表于 2020-10-07 19:17

这是必须的!
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Biden
彭斯会用“极左“、”暴力”问题逼问Harris Harris会用“堕胎”,新冠应对质问彭斯
没跑的~~~

profyao 发表于 2020-10-07 19:17

种族歧视呢??
Harris 大妈很会打歧视的牌啊!!

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sdggv3
种族歧视呢??
Harris 大妈很会打歧视的牌啊!!


Biden 发表于 2020-10-07 19:21

刘晓庆你选谁啊?哈哈哈
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michaelcrm
种族歧视呢??
Harris 大妈很会打歧视的牌啊!!


Biden 发表于 2020-10-07 19:21

对,Harris是几乎百分百会逼着彭斯表态谴责“白人至上主义”的
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Susuzzzz966
副总统辩论,太强势会丢分
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Heiniu
好期待。 比当年看 Sarah Palin 期待多了。 因为同为女性, 看到 Palin 被调戏还是会不由自主地尴尬同情鄙视可惜的。
水泽木兰
疯王这两天疯狂发推,给Pence埋了不少雷。Pence难呀
兔子过敏
今晚播放:美版手撕鬼子。
我赌十块钱Pence会尿裤子。



但也不排除他穿尿不湿的可能。。。
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profyao
疯王这两天疯狂发推,给Pence埋了不少雷。Pence难呀
水泽木兰 发表于 2020-10-07 19:48

一度传闻,川普要坚持出席这场副总统辩论呢,呵呵。
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xqhbh
不用看了,Harris完胜Pence,不信看明天CNN ABC NBC头条
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Biden
不用看了,Harris完胜Pence,不信看明天CNN ABC NBC头条
xqhbh 发表于 2020-10-07 19:51

CNN 又要痛骂川普了
哈哈哈哈
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sdggv3
CNN 又要痛骂川普了
哈哈哈哈

Biden 发表于 2020-10-07 19:53

这一场和川普没关系,感觉媒体会温和得多,彭斯和贺俩人的公众形象都不错
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justwatching
彭斯会用“极左“、”暴力”问题逼问Harris Harris会用“堕胎”,新冠应对质问彭斯
没跑的~~~

profyao 发表于 10/7/2020 7:17:48 PM
Pence该好好问问那950她准备怎么推广到全美好日无边的远景
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joujou01
上次辩论CNN的民调是60%🆚30%,预测今晚民调80%🆚10%,哈哈哈哈哈哈
彭斯会用“极左“、”暴力”问题逼问Harris Harris会用“堕胎”,新冠应对质问彭斯
没跑的~~~

profyao 发表于 10/7/2020 7:17:48 PM
Pence该好好问问那950她准备怎么推广到全美好日无边的远景
justwatching 发表于 2020-10-07 20:07

估计某些人听说这个,觉得我考还有这好事儿。然后harris拉不少票。万事皆有可能啊……
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GiselleJ
上次辩论CNN的民调是60%🆚30%,预测今晚民调80%🆚10%,哈哈哈哈哈哈
joujou01 发表于 2020-10-07 20:12

直接宣布拜登上台么好了。反正拜登在川普生病的时候已经自封自己总统了
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Dohremi
Harris在Justice Kavanaugh的hearing上已经向大众展示过她有多nasty了。继续让大家看看也好。左派就喜欢这种。
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slwm
今晚Pence祭出大杀器Willie Brown, Kamala 就变成karma了。
俩人都是年富力强,辩论能力也够!Watch Live Wednesday, Oct. 7 at 9 p.m. ET: Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris face-off for their first debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6znNsWc2Hs

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sdggv3 发表于 10/7/2020 7:06:09 PM
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Biden
不敢看
Harris 大妈太凶神恶煞了!!!
黑人大妈一般都很泼辣啊!!
比中国女生厉害太多太多了!!
真希望 中国女生们 能学习学习黑人大妈们!!
在西方国家的黑人大妈特别能说会道!!
而中国女生最差!!
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shoppingspree
一路睡上去最后还嫁了个白人,她以为黑人会买她的帐嘛?做梦
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CK
大家都不看好pence啊?难道这种就是比谁泼谁赢?
我觉得对于争取中立的选民,越泼越无用。讲的有道理才能争取到人心。
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zhegufei
Kamala Harris 是傑出的檢察官。身經百戰。這種1on1 Debate 是她主場。Pence 絕對劣勢。

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mise88 发表于 2020-10-07 19:18

这个是参议院,属于围攻,看不出真本事。
辩论是一对一,对等的。
等下看情况。
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zhegufei
今晚Pence祭出大杀器Willie Brown, Kamala 就变成karma了。
俩人都是年富力强,辩论能力也够!Watch Live Wednesday, Oct. 7 at 9 p.m. ET: Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris face-off for their first debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6znNsWc2Hs

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sdggv3 发表于 10/7/2020 7:06:09 PM


slwm 发表于 2020-10-07 20:23

瞎扯。 PENCE敢这么干,全美国女性都抽他。
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liheng
预测这个爬上位的瞪眼怪笑女会装,这次一定会收敛她的本性,Pence搞不过她的
justwatching 发表于 2020-10-07 19:10

这个女的太恶心了。
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liheng
民主党的 Harris 大妈太恐怖了
感觉比德国的白左大妈还凶恶


Biden 发表于 2020-10-07 19:19

这女的一路睡上位,太淫荡了,人至贱则无敌。
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YTD1Smore
坐着辩论应该心平气和,绅士淑女的对局了。
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Biden
这女的一路睡上位,太淫荡了,人至贱则无敌。
liheng 发表于 2020-10-07 20:47


看着真可怕
要是这个黑人大妈当了美国总统.........
哈哈哈哈哈
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mindstorm
大家都不看好pence啊?难道这种就是比谁泼谁赢?
我觉得对于争取中立的选民,越泼越无用。讲的有道理才能争取到人心。
CK 发表于 2020-10-07 20:41

就事实来看,pence这四年来,就是一个应声虫,除了在白宫里PRAY求神的帮助外,毫无主见,对总统决策毫无制约,甚至毫无影响。正常的人,不会看好他的。
这女的一路睡上位,太淫荡了,人至贱则无敌。
liheng 发表于 2020-10-07 20:47

好吧,我其实觉得淫荡也可以接受。克林顿当年搞得全世界都认识了那条蓝裙子,也不妨碍他是个不错的总统。卡大妈关键是太左了。拜登选她做副手真是烂招。
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yummyeah
真的完全受不了Kamala Harris 的那副嘴脸…… 恶心
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Jiesong
Harris满脸的虚伪做作样
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af_nyc
这女的一路睡上位,太淫荡了,人至贱则无敌。
liheng 发表于 2020-10-07 20:47

肯定睡得比Trump少,只有更贱,看来你喜欢最贱的
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mindstorm

看着真可怕
要是这个黑人大妈当了美国总统.........
哈哈哈哈哈

Biden 发表于 2020-10-07 21:07

不要瞎意淫了。BIDEN怎么可能让大权旁落。 四年前,川粉说,主要会由PENCE主政,统领没什么想法,结果大家都看到了,不懂政治的人,做对很难,破坏很容易。。。
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Biden
Harris满脸的虚伪做作样
Jiesong 发表于 2020-10-07 21:12


她要是当了美国总统
哈哈哈
估计要整老川啊!!

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rabbitu
总统选拜登!两院选共和党!赶走老疯子的同时不用担心极左的policy!
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liheng
坐着辩论应该心平气和,绅士淑女的对局了。
YTD1Smore 发表于 2020-10-07 21:01

绅士对泼妇。
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nehz
Kamala debate很强啊
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mindstorm
这一场和川普没关系,感觉媒体会温和得多,彭斯和贺俩人的公众形象都不错
sdggv3 发表于 2020-10-07 19:58

这个PENCE如果单独出来可能会好一些。做副手,大家都相信,他毫无影响,除了基本盘,基本不会选他
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phantombamboo
这女的看着一副忸怩作态,没啥本事就会虚张声势的感觉。
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cloudy
开始甩锅dr. fauci了, 真行。。。。
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mindstorm
开始甩锅dr. fauci了, 真行。。。。
cloudy 发表于 2020-10-07 21:15

不是法官要求公开邮件吗?说不定是DR. FAUCI悄悄要求的。LOL.
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joujou01
Harris 的表情可以庄重一点吗?和pence形成鲜明对比。
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homejoy
就会攻击trump,一说到具体措施就没了,trump是破鼓万人捶,光捶他就能领导美国了么,恶心
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Susuzzzz966
Pence is pence completely ignore the question as always
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mindstorm
Kamala debate很强啊
nehz 发表于 2020-10-07 21:14

不喜欢她。但印度血统,说话能力肯定一流。
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jysteel
pence这答非所问啊 人家问你聚会怎么不带面具,你回答美国人民牺牲了很多
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liheng

看着真可怕
要是这个黑人大妈当了美国总统.........
哈哈哈哈哈

Biden 发表于 2020-10-07 21:07

虽然不喜欢川普,拜登4年根本坐不满,这个女的当总统太可怕了
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liheng
哈里斯第一句就是谎言
梅干茶泡饭
Harris 的表情可以庄重一点吗?和pence形成鲜明对比。
joujou01 发表于 2020-10-07 21:15

这是她的缺点 举止不好 也是彭斯最大的优势 就是形象稳健
however....彭斯不停吹Trump就会惹怒观众。。。。
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coconutmilkc
天啊,pence真的能把这个烂摊子,还描述成自己的丰功伟绩,也真是一个本事。果然跟trump是一路货色
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bcg
pence全是narratives,杂乱无章,不管怎么说,harris思路清晰,有论点有论据
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Yadkin
你对女人的标准和对男人不一样,是么? Harris 和pence一样都在好好讲话,到你嘴里就变成一个是绅士,一个是泼妇?
绅士对泼妇。
liheng 发表于 10/7/2020 9:14:12 PM
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stainlessbelief
这女的太虚伪了,上来就说白等有plan,断航的时候白等说的话是放屁么?
阿凡达
这女的给我感觉和公司里那种女烙印manager一样,极其强势但是言之无物,脑子空空也
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xiawei
总统选拜登!两院选共和党!赶走老疯子的同时不用担心极左的policy!
rabbitu 发表于 2020-10-07 21:13

众院今年肯定是民主党的,在来个民主党总统,就参院那点多数,能干什么。要是参院也丢了,日子不要太美好。
真要Biden上了只有忍四年,就他和Harris这组合,四年后肯定是共和党的。只是可惜了现在正在进行的一些好政策。
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rosesavels
虽然不喜欢川普,拜登4年根本坐不满,这个女的当总统太可怕了
liheng 发表于 2020-10-07 21:16

川粉真是恶毒啊,别忘了现在得covid是哪位,病都没好呢就咒别人!
就会攻击trump,一说到具体措施就没了,trump是破鼓万人捶,光捶他就能领导美国了么,恶心
homejoy 发表于 2020-10-07 21:16

民主党这次竞选的唯一纲领就是攻击老川啊,其他的他们也没什么好说的了。
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shoeholic
虽然不喜欢川普,拜登4年根本坐不满,这个女的当总统太可怕了
liheng 发表于 2020-10-07 21:16

两党都推出的什么玩意儿,这两边都是捏着鼻子都选不出来。。。。。叫我们老百姓怎么选。。。。弃权么
梅干茶泡饭
假印第安人是民主党左翼 绿茶是民主党建制派右翼 真的 不要只看脸
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shoeholic
pence这答非所问啊 人家问你聚会怎么不带面具,你回答美国人民牺牲了很多
jysteel 发表于 2020-10-07 21:16

人家只会按部就班的答准备过的题。。。。
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air666
Harris 没有底线,如果当选,真是美国的灾难!
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bangobunny
开始slut shaming了 川粉从来不让我失望 你们可千万别生闺女
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luckydoudou
哈里斯第一句就是谎言
liheng 发表于 2020-10-07 21:17

你不一直支持川普吗?管对方是谁你都看不惯的。坚持你的选择就行了,再找那么多证据支持自己的选择多累啊。
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liheng
沉重的话题,哈里斯还在笑,很轻佻
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ysyyrps
Pence只会守不会攻 他应该攻击民主党一月底二月份都做了啥
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relay
卧槽。 如果trump让大家打疫苗,她就不让大家打。这女的疯了吗????? 为反而反? 这一句话,就让我对她太太太失望。。 。 说好的healer呢? 说好的可以unite the country的人呢???? 就这样??? 为了党争, 煽动自己的base不打疫苗???? 人命对他们算个鸟????
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mindstorm
今晚播放:美版手撕鬼子。
我赌十块钱Pence会尿裤子。



但也不排除他穿尿不湿的可能。。。
兔子过敏 发表于 2020-10-07 19:50

不会的。PENCE过去其实也是一个牛人。
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Susuzzzz966
Pence跟也一样啊,不尊重辩论,不回答问题,自己想说啥就说啥
我希望拜登选了Bloomberg 做副手。
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hr90909090
贺锦丽口才好 但是举止一般 总是晃来晃去的

梅干茶泡饭 发表于 2020-10-07 19:10

她表情管理是有问题,明显的减分项。

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happywindveryhappy
目前为止挺好的,都没抢话。
阿凡达
哇pence这一段好精彩
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ChristinaW
啊?彭斯穿越到10分钟之前了?
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chromatography
这女的满篇谎话,还不严肃,有点看不下去了
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hercyna
pence直接不回答问题都行?!
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icespar
Pence的嘴脸太虚伪了
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peachy1012
pence长得像个吸血鬼一样。皮肤白,眼睛红,耳朵尖。
哈哈哈哈。
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Wmzq123
Harris在Justice Kavanaugh的hearing上已经向大众展示过她有多nasty了。继续让大家看看也好。左派就喜欢这种。
Dohremi 发表于 2020-10-07 20:20

假印地安人比Harris好。