刚收到的邮件 Exclusive: The Times has obtained tax-return data for President Trump extending over more than two decades. It shows chronic losses and years of tax avoidance. Mr. Trump’s finances are under stress, beset by losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes, and hundreds of millions in debt that he has personally guaranteed, which comes due in the coming years. He paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016, and nothing in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made. Also hanging over him is an audit battle that he has long been waging, out of public view, with the I.R.S. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.
他的税表如果有一丁点问题，那IRS是不会放过他的，这个道理都想不明白的人，只能说反川反得精神都有问题了，得治 RedNeck1861 发表于 2020-09-28 16:37這就是重點。https://twitter.com/mrbromwich/status/1310393352421023745?s=20Michael R. Bromwich@mrbromwichTrump knew something we didn''t when he started balking at the peaceful transfer of power. If he loses the election, he faces federal and state prosecution for bank fraud, tax fraud, wire fraud, and mail fraud, as does his entire family. No OLC memo will spare him.川普非常了解他如沒有了Office of the president 保護，接下來很可能就是Mail Fraud, Wire Fraud, Tax Fraud的官司，全家無可免。所以他會不顧一切手段搶這個總統位。任何事都行。這是他唯一的一條活路。這也是為什麼他是這麼大的National Security Risk. 因為他可以為了保位出賣任何國家利益。 mise88 发表于 9/28/2020 5:05:49 PM
President Trump found multiple ways to reduce his tax bills, according to the Times report. He has taken tax deductions on personal expenses such as housing, aircraft and $70,000 in haircare. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1310359573795143682 Seeking668 发表于 2020-09-27 19:36
The Times report also reveals the financial pressure on Trump is mounting as he is personally responsible for loans and other debts totaling $421m, with most of it coming due within four years. “Should he win re-election, his lenders could be placed in the unprecedented position of weighing whether to foreclose on a sitting president,” it reads.
10月惊吓？估计对他的铁粉而言全是fake news。前两年得奖的那篇报道不是粉儿们不care 么？ David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges. (Moved by the Board from the Investigative Reporting category, where it was also entered.) https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/david-barstow-susanne-craig-and-russ-buettner-new-york-times
刚收到的邮件 Exclusive: The Times has obtained tax-return data for President Trump extending over more than two decades. It shows chronic losses and years of tax avoidance. Mr. Trump’s finances are under stress, beset by losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes, and hundreds of millions in debt that he has personally guaranteed, which comes due in the coming years. He paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016, and nothing in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made. Also hanging over him is an audit battle that he has long been waging, out of public view, with the I.R.S. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million. 兔子过敏 发表于 2020-09-27 17:25
无图无真相。 有图的话，那估计今年悬了。毕竟虽然有些人会理解大总统的做法。但大多数人，还是会觉得不可思议。 这个时候爆，显然又是准备好的喂料。 感觉即将一场 不要脸不缴税 vs 不要脸偷税单 的大战了。
以前还有川粉死咬什么公不公布tax return是trump的自由，倒是看看美国人都是怎么看待的，不公布tax return怎么能证明一个总统候选人不是一个compromised的人。 Steve Tripoli Dartmouth, MA 5m ago Let's all never forget that any financial vulnerabilities and efforts to conceal them make President Trump potentially compromised to hostile private interests and - more importantly - hostile foreign powers. And someone who's compromised may do things that are extremely dangerous to America's national security or economic interests - not to mention illegal - in order to maintain his cover. That's why we try as a society - badly, but we try - to vet conflicts-of-interest in high-ranking officials with high-level security clearances. All future candidates for president - and others as well, I'd argue - must submit decades of tax returns as a condition of remaining on the ballot.
川粉再怎么洗没什么用， NYT这个头条新闻出来，大部分美国人也搞不清楚复杂的利用business loss避税操作， 他们只会觉得holy sh*t 一年只交750刀税以及前十五年有十年完全不用交税是什么概念， 会有很多蓝领反而交税比这个多很多的被激怒，然后去vote Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750. He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.
不愧是纽约时报，超棒的investigative journalism. 感觉这篇值得一个普利策。其实意料之中，意料之外的永远是此人的厚颜无耻，颠倒黑白的程度，还有他的支持者装作鸵鸟，心甘情愿被骗的忠诚度。真是江湖骗子百千种，总有一款适合你啊。 While Mr. Trump crisscrossed the country in 2015 describing himself as uniquely qualified to be president because he was “really rich” and had “built a great company,” his accountants back in New York were busy putting the finishing touches on his 2014 tax return. After tabulating all the profits and losses from Mr. Trump’s various endeavors on Form 1040, the accountants came to Line 56, where they had to enter the total income tax the candidate was required to pay. They needed space for only a single figure. Zero. For Mr. Trump, that bottom line must have looked familiar. It was the fourth year in a row that he had not paid a penny of federal income taxes.
"In 2018, for example, Mr. Trump announced in his disclosure that he had made at least $434.9 million. The tax records deliver a very different portrait of his bottom line: $47.4 million in losses." 结论：Trump哪天不lie了反而值得一个头条新闻
Trump新闻发布会否认了，说fake news. 但也没说自己交很多税。还说“IRS does not treat me well. They treat me like the Tea Party. Like they treated the Tea Party. They don't treat me well. They treat me very badly. You have people in the IRS, they treat me very very badly." IRS 还有弹性的？ 应该相信谁？
Trump新闻发布会否认了，说fake news. 但也没说自己交很多税。还说“IRS does not treat me well. They treat me like the Tea Party. Like they treated the Tea Party. They don't treat me well. They treat me very badly. You have people in the IRS, they treat me very very badly." IRS 还有弹性的？ 应该相信谁？ Fanfuliao 发表于 9/27/2020 6:39:29 PM
Trump新闻发布会否认了，说fake news. 但也没说自己交很多税。还说“IRS does not treat me well. They treat me like the Tea Party. Like they treated the Tea Party. They don't treat me well. They treat me very badly. You have people in the IRS, they treat me very very badly." IRS 还有弹性的？ 应该相信谁？ Fanfuliao 发表于 9/27/2020 6:39:29 PM
Federal income taxes paid in 2017 (jointly with spouse): Joe Biden - $3,742,974 Kamala Harris - $516,469 Bernie Sanders - $343,882 Elizabeth Warren - $268,484 . Donald Trump - $750
Federal income taxes paid in 2017 (jointly with spouse): Joe Biden - $3,742,974 Kamala Harris - $516,469 Bernie Sanders - $343,882 Elizabeth Warren - $268,484 . Donald Trump - $750 fitzroy 发表于 2020-09-27 18:48
不愧是纽约时报，超棒的investigative journalism. 感觉这篇值得一个普利策。其实意料之中，意料之外的永远是此人的厚颜无耻，颠倒黑白的程度，还有他的支持者装作鸵鸟，心甘情愿被骗的忠诚度。真是江湖骗子百千种，总有一款适合你啊。 While Mr. Trump crisscrossed the country in 2015 describing himself as uniquely qualified to be president because he was “really rich” and had “built a great company,” his accountants back in New York were busy putting the finishing touches on his 2014 tax return. After tabulating all the profits and losses from Mr. Trump’s various endeavors on Form 1040, the accountants came to Line 56, where they had to enter the total income tax the candidate was required to pay. They needed space for only a single figure. Zero. For Mr. Trump, that bottom line must have looked familiar. It was the fourth year in a row that he had not paid a penny of federal income taxes. luming 发表于 2020-09-27 18:30
Mr. Adams Texas1h ago As a fairly average American in 2016, I paid a little over $6,500 in taxes. Yet this guy with his private jets, multi-million dollar homes, and vast business empire paid only $750? Oh yeah and he used his position as president to cut even more taxes for his businesses and rich buddies. The crooks own this country.
Mr. Trump’s finances are under stress, beset by losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes, and hundreds of millions in debt that he has personally guaranteed, which comes due in the coming years. He paid $750 in federal income taxes in 2016, and nothing in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made. Also hanging over him is an audit battle that he has long been waging, out of public view, with the I.R.S. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.
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想多了，哪個前總統被這樣查過，該被查的都還天天開演講呢
吃不了兜着走。 也可以打包。
那是金头。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/27/trump-paid-little-to-no-federal-income-taxes-over-several-years-nyt-.html
谁能解释一下富人怎么玩，一直报loss，触发audit, audit 总有一天要结账吧？就是后面说的要补交100million?
David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges. (Moved by the Board from the Investigative Reporting category, where it was also entered.) https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/david-barstow-susanne-craig-and-russ-buettner-new-york-times
同感。中产以为富人跟自己一样的玩法呢，还在那里科普皇帝的金锄头
Real estate跟别的不一样。 一般的真富人都是大型上市公司，除了timing,没有什么income tax上面的操作的。 Real estate 有很多操作空间，但是如果操作太猛了，坐牢的也很多。
无图无真相。
有图的话，那估计今年悬了。毕竟虽然有些人会理解大总统的做法。但大多数人，还是会觉得不可思议。
这个时候爆，显然又是准备好的喂料。
感觉即将一场 不要脸不缴税 vs 不要脸偷税单 的大战了。
偷什么？不知道前天法院判决Trump必须在三天里把税表交给纽约地方检察院吗？
肯定是NYT在地方检察院的内线爆料的
有图有真相。。比较担心这种creepy stuff..
这还叫着点儿啊。
即使是会计师帮忙报税，出了问题，承担法律责任的也是交税的人。这个常识川粉竟然不知道吗？
前些日子高院不是判了，他要向地方法院提交税表，他儿子eric不能用皇家亲戚的身份来推法庭传票么？
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第一个川粉现身了
Steve Tripoli Dartmouth, MA 5m ago
Let's all never forget that any financial vulnerabilities and efforts to conceal them make President Trump potentially compromised to hostile private interests and - more importantly - hostile foreign powers.
And someone who's compromised may do things that are extremely dangerous to America's national security or economic interests - not to mention illegal - in order to maintain his cover.
That's why we try as a society - badly, but we try - to vet conflicts-of-interest in high-ranking officials with high-level security clearances.
All future candidates for president - and others as well, I'd argue - must submit decades of tax returns as a condition of remaining on the ballot.
别在那显示你有常识了，任何一个会计师事务所都对自己的错误负责的，谁付钱的问题罢了。trump没交税不会是因为他故意不交，美国的税法就是给有钱人避税用的。真有问题，IRS早出报告了。你川谁粉呢？
嗯，我和你一样，也担心这种creepy stuff....
这样的体制，中产越过越差，慢慢变成无产，贫富继续分化，都是必然的
Trump没交税不会是他估计不交？完全是被会计师的错误蒙蔽了？ 一年交了750块钱的税竟然不知道是交少了？
你把trump当白痴了，还是自己是白痴啊。
这位从来都是自己做税表吧,不让你签个免责声明,把自己摘干净的会计师会是专业会计师么?
打包票帮客户背锅的会计师事务所你敢用吗?
我和你一样，也担心这种creepy stuff....
川粉再怎么洗没什么用， NYT这个头条新闻出来，大部分美国人也搞不清楚复杂的利用business loss避税操作， 他们只会觉得holy sh*t 一年只交750刀税以及前十五年有十年完全不用交税是什么概念， 会有很多蓝领反而交税比这个多很多的被激怒，然后去vote
Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750. He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.
你哪只眼睛看见我说他被蒙蔽了？看不懂中文啊？我说有钱人会合法避税，你可以去查查Amazon怎么避税的。抓不到trump把柄，盯着他交了多少税是没用的。
你可能没看文章把。
IRS跟他PK了很多年了。没停过。如果IRS胜利，他要补不少呢。
不过这些对他而言都是毛毛雨啦。
不急等着下星期的白等猛料-比如叔嫂乱伦动作片视频。。
别继续洗了，洗不白。
他这么问心无愧，为什么这多年要他公开税表他不敢呢？
别洗了，拜登乱伦也改不了川皮偷税的事实
Amazon这个是很不错的例子。
Amazon是政府官员或者公共机构么？
Trump有没有批过Amazon呢？
吃瓜群总对互相爆料是支持的。
没爆的话，你可以拍一个啊，你这选题还是很吸引眼球的。
While Mr. Trump crisscrossed the country in 2015 describing himself as uniquely qualified to be president because he was “really rich” and had “built a great company,” his accountants back in New York were busy putting the finishing touches on his 2014 tax return. After tabulating all the profits and losses from Mr. Trump’s various endeavors on Form 1040, the accountants came to Line 56, where they had to enter the total income tax the candidate was required to pay. They needed space for only a single figure. Zero. For Mr. Trump, that bottom line must have looked familiar. It was the fourth year in a row that he had not paid a penny of federal income taxes.
搞房地产的有几个交好多税的，不懂的话去读读税法
土共已经将乱伦视频给Pelosi和一些媒体了。。。我也吃瓜。。
难道你第一次听说，整个国家就是靠中产来运转。
税表出来了，那么动作片也可以看到了
结论：Trump哪天不lie了反而值得一个头条新闻
IRS 还有弹性的？ 应该相信谁？
板上那个作弊是合法的多交税的？举个手看看，作弊们智商虽然不高，但是多交税也不会有人会干的。
破产6次的loser，你指望他交很多税吗？那不是自相矛盾？！股神Warren Buffet好像也没有交很多税。就连苹果谷歌这类大公司都不太给美国交税。 拿对川普的标准把美国政客，资本家和大公司都查一遍，恐怕会纷纷落马……
同意啊。我不相信Trump说的每个字。这要做实了，那Trump就是实打实的骗子了。
Federal income taxes paid in 2017 (jointly with spouse):
Joe Biden - $3,742,974 Kamala Harris - $516,469 Bernie Sanders - $343,882 Elizabeth Warren - $268,484
. Donald Trump - $750
这些人没有在地产业，没自己的公司，也没破过产。
很多人这样说
我靠biden这么有钱啊 交税都交这么多 挣得挣多少
民主党候选人的税表都是公开的。事实上，除了川普，其他都是公开税表的
说的太对了。想想那些被人卖了还喜滋滋的贴上去帮人数钱的人，真是可悲。
美国税收也是大骗子，中产的税收养工会养政府职员，富豪各种方法避税，都是有钱人制定规则玩的
所以他现在彻底撕破脸皮，为了连任各种秀下限，践踏民主自由的行为让人看得目瞪口呆，美国国父们都得气得从地下爬出来了
估计马上就有ad了
As a fairly average American in 2016, I paid a little over $6,500 in taxes. Yet this guy with his private jets, multi-million dollar homes, and vast business empire paid only $750? Oh yeah and he used his position as president to cut even more taxes for his businesses and rich buddies.
The crooks own this country.
关于龙虾党基本上也是川粉yy的吧？有几个饭都吃不饱还天天吃龙虾的
不是好多人，是多数人