若猪党不幸赢了,川普拒接交权

千渔千寻
楼主 (北美华人网)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/trump-power-transfer-2020-election.html
Trump Won’t Commit to ‘Peaceful’ Post-Election Transfer of Power
In response to a question, the president complained about mail-in ballots and said: “There won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation.”
WASHINGTON — President Trump declined an opportunity on Wednesday to endorse a peaceful transfer of power after the November election, renewing his baseless warnings about extensive voting fraud before saying there would be no power transfer at all.
还会继续支持川普么? 该听谁的? 民主党、共和党、最高法院、川普、军队?





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ansys
南北分割吧??
共和党管理 美国南方,
民主党管理 美国北方 , 和加拿大,欧盟合并吧?
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westlake
估计这是美国历史上的首次
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BeHappy78
我觉得这又是媒体造谣吧,美国法律根本不会允许这个发生
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yanhren
说的Trump跟职业政客一样,除了做政客就没有自己的事情一样。
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davidrichmond
拒不承认选举结果这么下流的事只有左棍才做的出来,比如16年大选以后各地的游行。 保守派之所以是保守派,是因为我们尊重传统,尊重法律。就算那万中无一的可能性里拜登当选了,保守派最多会在法律的框架下要求复核选举过程和选举结果,如果无异议,一定会遵守法院的判决。 不过这个过程你估计是看不到的。拜登当选? 看看人气,可能吗?
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richey
2016年的时候已经如果了一次了,如果Trump输了不认输怎么办。 真是咸吃萝卜淡操心
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niuhuang201
又是左媒的假新闻。太无耻了。
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Beingyourself
川普 就是美国的灾难,川普就是连任,还想做第三任。
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yanhren
川普 就是美国的灾难,川普就是连任,还想做第三任。
Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 08:52

你是川普肚里的蛔虫,能不能连人还不知道,你就知道还有第三任了。真是消息灵通人士!
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Tigerdoc
Trump Trump Trump
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ansys
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Beingyourself
川粉看看川普自己讲的话
我只会连任!川普拒绝和平移交权力
在周三(23日)的记者会上,川普被问及会否承诺落选后和平移交权力,他表示:"(选举后)不会有权力移交,而是延续。"( there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation.)
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ansys
Trump Trump Trump
Tigerdoc 发表于 2020-09-24 08:56

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babeann
回复 4楼BeHappy78的帖子
有视频,TRUMP记者会亲口说的
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snail
还是先担心拜登作弊吧
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ansys
川粉看看川普自己讲的话
我只会连任!川普拒绝和平移交权力
在周三(23日)的记者会上,川普被问及会否承诺落选后和平移交权力,他表示:"(选举后)不会有权力移交,而是延续。"( there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation.)

Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 09:03

支持川普连任吧
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snail
川粉看看川普自己讲的话
我只会连任!川普拒绝和平移交权力
在周三(23日)的记者会上,川普被问及会否承诺落选后和平移交权力,他表示:"(选举后)不会有权力移交,而是延续。"( there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation.)

Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 09:03

这是对自己和共和党有信心,你英语不好不要乱说
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bcg
Full article in case you do not have a subscription: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/us/politics/trump-power-transfer-2020-election.html?auth=login-email&login=email
Trump Won’t Commit to ‘Peaceful’ Post-Election Transfer of Power In response to a question, the president complained about mail-in ballots and said: “There won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation.”
President Trump has long made comments about retaining power beyond legal limits.Credit...
Oliver Contreras for The New York Times
WASHINGTON — President Trump declined an opportunity on Wednesday to endorse a peaceful transfer of power after the November election, renewing his baseless warnings about extensive voting fraud before saying there would be no power transfer at all. Asked whether he would “commit here today for a peaceful transferral of power after the November election,” Mr. Trump demurred, passing on a chance to call for a calm and orderly election process. “We’re going to have to see what happens,” he told a reporter during a news conference at the White House. “You know that I’ve been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster.” “I understand that, but people are rioting,” responded the reporter, Brian Karem of Playboy magazine, who repeated the question. “Get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very peaceful — there won’t be a transfer, frankly. There will be a continuation,” the president said. That was an apparent reference to mail-in ballots, which for months he has railed against, without evidence, as rife with fraud and likely to produce a delayed, tainted or outright illegitimate election result. Mr. Trump’s refusal — or inability — to endorse perhaps the most fundamental tenet of American democracy, as any president in memory surely would have, was the latest instance in which he has cast grave uncertainty around the November election and its aftermath. Democrats are growing increasingly alarmed as Mr. Trump repeatedly questions the integrity of the vote and suggests that he might not accept the results if he loses. Earlier on Wednesday, Mr. Trump said he needed to swiftly confirm a successor for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg because he expected disputes over the election result to be resolved by the Supreme Court, which could split 4-to-4 if a ninth justice is not seated. “He’s threatening the election process and saying out loud what everyone has assumed he’s been thinking,” said Julian E. Zelizer, a professor of American political history at Princeton University. “The more he makes these arguments, the more he normalizes the fact that this can be part of the conversation.” “Even if meant to distract, these are powerful words to come from a president,” Mr. Zelizer added. “He’s clearly accelerating his effort to set up a challenge to an outcome that is unfavorable to him.” Hours after Mr. Trump’s assertions, Senator Mitt Romney, Republican of Utah, expressed alarm over the comments on Twitter. “Fundamental to democracy is the peaceful transition of power; without that, there is Belarus,” Mr. Romney wrote. “Any suggestion that a president might not respect this Constitutional guarantee is both unthinkable and unacceptable.” Mr. Trump’s remarks are a continuation of a long series. During an interview with Fox News in July, Mr. Trump similarly demurred when pressed by the network’s anchor, Chris Wallace, to “give a direct answer” about whether he would accept the election results regardless of the outcome. “I have to see,” Mr. Trump said. “No, I’m not going to just say yes. I’m not going to say no, and I didn’t last time, either,” he added, referring to his similar equivocation before the 2016 election, which he warned might be stolen from him. Even after his election that year, Mr. Trump falsely insisted that he had lost the popular vote only because millions of immigrants ineligible to vote had cast ballots for his opponent, Hillary Clinton. In this campaign, Mr. Trump has primed his supporters to believe his defeat is possible only through what he has called a “rigged” or “stolen” election. “The only way they can take this election away from us is if this is a rigged election,” Mr. Trump said last month during the Republican National Convention. Mr. Trump has also long joked about retaining power beyond legal limits, making frequent mention of serving beyond January 2025, when the Constitution — which limits presidents to two terms — requires that he leave office. In 2018, after China’s Communist Party announced the end of a two-term limit for its presidency, Mr. Trump said at a closed-door fund-raiser that China’s authoritarian leader, Xi Jinping, would be “president for life.” “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Mr. Trump said, to cheers from his supporters. In July, Mr. Trump even floated the idea of delaying the November election — a suggestion that lacks legal authority — although he dropped the notion after Republicans criticized it. Mr. Trump did not elaborate on his Wednesday comments, in part because he abruptly ended his news briefing to take what he called “an emergency phone call,” without offering further information. The White House did not provide further comment or explanation. The once-unthinkable notion that a president might refuse to accept the results of an election and leave office without resistance has become an increasingly major theme in the 2020 campaign. This month, Senator Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent, warned that Mr. Trump might contest the election result and seek to maintain his grip on power. “What we have got to do in the next two months is to alert the American people about what that nightmarish scenario might look like in order to prepare them for that possibility and talk about what we do if that happens,” Mr. Sanders said in an interview with Politico. David Cole, the national legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a statement that Mr. Trump’s comments “should trouble every American.” “The peaceful transfer of power is essential to a functioning democracy,” he said. Yet the president’s remarks were a jarring contrast to the conventional words of his own attorney general, William P. Barr, just a day earlier. “What this country has going for it more than anything else is the peaceful transfer of power, and that is accomplished through elections that people have confidence in,” Mr. Barr, an outspoken opponent of widespread voting by mail, said during a news conference in Milwaukee on Tuesday in response to a question about mail-in ballots. “And so we should be doing everything to support that confidence,” he added.
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zhangkai9302
川普 就是美国的灾难,川普就是连任,还想做第三任。
Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 08:52

这不是曾经的地下室拍脑袋智囊王兵专用字体吗,又反习又反川,活的真难
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Beingyourself
这是对自己和共和党有信心,你英语不好不要乱说
snail 发表于 2020-09-24 09:04

你是阅读障碍? 这么简单句子都看不懂
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BurningHot
这是要留一个禅让的美名吗
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Beingyourself
川普和习惠帝 二年前我就讲是一样的货色:流氓无赖混混
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bud
美国军队效忠宪法, 不向总统表忠心。
如果被军队赶走,能往哪逃, 不会逃到香港或莫斯科吧?
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davidrichmond
川粉看看川普自己讲的话
我只会连任!川普拒绝和平移交权力
在周三(23日)的记者会上,川普被问及会否承诺落选后和平移交权力,他表示:"(选举后)不会有权力移交,而是延续。"( there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation.)

Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 09:03

唉,真为左棍的智商着急。。。川普这句话都能被理解成这样,左棍这智商怎么活这么大的?
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slwm
又来造谣了,16年不是说trump当选会世界大战,核大战吗?输了不承认,撒泼打滚是民主党的看家本领。 共和党输了啥事也不会有,共和党赢了不管trump赢多少极左都会闹事。 除非民主党作弊太明显,共和党该干嘛干嘛,
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htscorpion
这种明显是钓鱼问题。 记者问如果大选失败是不是和平交接,如果trump说是,记者就会报道,trump做好失败准备。 这种问题的正确回答是,我不可能输。所有体育比赛都这样。trump说得就是这个意思。
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ReesWitherspoon
新ID发政治帖?
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healthy
川粉看看川普自己讲的话
我只会连任!川普拒绝和平移交权力
在周三(23日)的记者会上,川普被问及会否承诺落选后和平移交权力,他表示:"(选举后)不会有权力移交,而是延续。"( there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation.)

Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 09:03

川黑真是无耻无极限啊!这样都能解释为拒绝交接?人家是非常有信心稳赢!
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westlake
拒不承认选举结果这么下流的事只有左棍才做的出来,比如16年大选以后各地的游行。 保守派之所以是保守派,是因为我们尊重传统,尊重法律。就算那万中无一的可能性里拜登当选了,保守派最多会在法律的框架下要求复核选举过程和选举结果,如果无异议,一定会遵守法院的判决。 不过这个过程你估计是看不到的。拜登当选? 看看人气,可能吗?
davidrichmond 发表于 2020-09-24 08:47

就是说,如果拜登当选,肯定是作弊,对吧? 所以川普不承认,不肯交权也是合理的,对吧?
你说的人气,不知道是怎么看出来的?我承认民调未必就代表了所以选民,但是你的人气,不是更加不可靠的民调吗?
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westlake
我觉得这又是媒体造谣吧,美国法律根本不会允许这个发生
BeHappy78 发表于 2020-09-24 08:45

有录音为证,记者问他如果输了选举,是不是可以保证有Peaceful Transfer of power,他说,到时候再说。估计美国历史上敢这么说的,没有第二个。
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chali1234
有录音为证,记者问他如果输了选举,是不是可以保证有Peaceful Transfer of power,他说,到时候再说。估计美国历史上敢这么说的,没有第二个。
westlake 发表于 2020-09-24 10:00

觉得邮寄选票作假难道不可以上诉吗? bush那届选举不就是最后上诉?
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denis_sis
川普 就是美国的灾难,川普就是连任,还想做第三任。
Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 08:52

你醒醒吧,川普连任是中共灾难,是美国甚至世界人民的救赎,你看太多今日头条。川普促进中东和平签署协议,只搞恐怖分子头目不发动热战搞平民,对内签署降低药价的命令,修墙保护合法移民。还有很多,当然他也有错的,比如有时说话不严谨,但比很多政客好太多太多
梦境行者
就是说,如果拜登当选,肯定是作弊,对吧? 所以川普不承认,不肯交权也是合理的,对吧?
你说的人气,不知道是怎么看出来的?我承认民调未必就代表了所以选民,但是你的人气,不是更加不可靠的民调吗?
westlake 发表于 2020-09-24 09:59

他们的逻辑就是这样咯 反正如果民主党赢,那铁定就是作弊(即使在川川对邮政系统干了这么多缺德事儿之后) 川川现在吃相都这样了,各种选举疯话天天说,他们也能“如果川川输了会尊重选举”一一把一件本来就应该做的正常事情描绘得多么圣人
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davidrichmond
就是说,如果拜登当选,肯定是作弊,对吧? 所以川普不承认,不肯交权也是合理的,对吧?
你说的人气,不知道是怎么看出来的?我承认民调未必就代表了所以选民,但是你的人气,不是更加不可靠的民调吗?
westlake 发表于 2020-09-24 09:59

又来了一个智商不在线的。。。
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yumengmeng
这楼里的川粉都是什么文化程度啊?英文读不懂? 就凭着你狂热的信仰,川普必赢,猪党除了作弊绝对赢不了,哈哈。
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yumengmeng
川普和习惠帝 二年前我就讲是一样的货色:流氓无赖混混

Beingyourself 发表于 2020-09-24 09:11

的确是,川习都是流氓,不过一个外露一个内敛。
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whitetulip
到时候由不得川普啦,军队出马直接把他一家人轰出白宫。
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ejiezho
2016年是谁闹事的?谁喊出“not my president”?尼玛左逼干正事没有,泼脏水水平一流
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westlake
觉得邮寄选票作假难道不可以上诉吗? bush那届选举不就是最后上诉?
chali1234 发表于 2020-09-24 10:04

所以他现在忙着pack最高法院啊,到时候他说了算。
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kakeru
大爷的,not my president折腾了快四年到现在说巨巨不接受选举结果?都忘了2017年初是什么样的闹剧了?I am a nasty woman现在也不咋出来了。 真拿大家当傻子,不过也的确有很多人脑子不清楚。不喜欢巨巨就去投拜登成年人对自己的选票负责就好了,没必要造谣太无耻了。
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whitetulip
川粉们都坚定地认为:老川绝不可能输,如果输了就是猪党作弊! 别看新闻别信民调,那些都是猪党造谣,大家集体发力,每天祈祷默念“川普必赢,川普必赢”,没准真的就躺赢了。
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chali1234
所以他现在忙着pack最高法院啊,到时候他说了算。
westlake 发表于 2020-09-24 10:43

你懂不懂什么叫三权分立?