我當年早就知道會這樣 一邊拼命偷還拼命說自己偷得很偉大 一邊已經知道被偷得很厲害還騙自己說是聯中制俄 但我當年就知道 共產黨就是共產黨 共產主義就是要征服全世界 所以華人在美國一定會陷入火網之中 我二十幾年前就在網上公開說出我的想法了 我即知即行 知行合一 你們自欺欺人 要麼不知 要麼知行不合一 當年你們還群嘲我 現在陷入火網之中 i told you I told you I told you.....
Hu was stopped by Customs and Border Protection in Chicago as he was trying to leave the U.S. for China on Aug. 25 and admitted to authorities he had code on his laptop that his adviser would be upset to learn he had, according to the Journal. He is now in China working for a military-funded lab at Beihang University in Beijing 他和他的uva 导师都心知肚明啊. :) 北航大学的这位棋高一筹 就不知道当初董为什么要招胡，最后翻脸闹到这种地步
好像是学校的security protocol没弄好，等这位研究人员拿到代码后他们才意识到应该限制这人的权限。这人没被告是因为technicality吧，不是因为他无辜。校方感觉挺无能 校方： A representative for the University of Virginia said in a statement to The Wall Street Journal Tuesday that the school continued to investigate “the circumstances surrounding the former research scholar’s unauthorized possession of University files while attempting to leave the country,” adding that Mr. Hu “did not have permission to access or take the files and was repeatedly denied permission to access them.” The spokesman said the university had determined that one of the computing systems that Mr. Hu had access to included “permission settings that were not sufficient to establish a violation of law,” and said the university is reviewing its data access and permission standards as a result. hu在美国的老板：Mr. Hu’s adviser at UVA, Haibo Dong, reiterated to the Journal what he had told the FBI: that he believed Mr. Hu had improperly taken his code. “It’s not ethical and not appropriate but whether it reaches a criminal level, I’m not sure,” he said, referring questions about the case to university officials. ============= To prove Mr. Hu stole trade secrets, prosecutors would need to prove both that the defendant wasn’t entitled to the information, and that the owner of the information had kept it guarded securely to ensure no unauthorized disclosure of it. “It’s not enough for the information to just be considered secret, you have to take affirmative steps to keep it secret,” said Christopher Ott, a former national security prosecutor who is now a lawyer at the law firm Rothwell Figg. 当事人已经飞回中国了，估计不会再来
华人老板的回应： 这个事情我必须澄清一下。这个访问学生是被FbI 在机场挡住，我和组里的学生只是回答FbI的所有问题。这个学生从实验室的备份盘和其他在读学生的目录下下载大批文件。犯了错，但因为我们的管理问题并没有触犯法律。学校决定不追究。说我们阴了他，迫害他，那真是点到黑白了。这个事件对我们组里的中国学生影响很大，好在已经过去了。请大家不要相信一面之词。我们选择不在媒体上反击，也是为了保护丢失数据的学生的隐私和避免让大家在这个非常时期看中国师生之间的笑话。请多体谅。学校的声明如下。 Even though the criminal charges have been dismissed, we continue to investigate the circumstances surrounding the former research scholar’s unauthorized possession of University files while attempting to leave the country. The former student did not have permission to access or take the files and was repeatedly denied permission to access them. Nonetheless, while cooperating in the investigation, we determined that one of the computing systems to which the student had access included permission settings that were not sufficient to establish a violation of law. As a follow-up to this incident, we also are reviewing our data access and permission standards.
华人老板的回应： 这个事情我必须澄清一下。这个访问学生是被FbI 在机场挡住，我和组里的学生只是回答FbI的所有问题。这个学生从实验室的备份盘和其他在读学生的目录下下载大批文件。犯了错，但因为我们的管理问题并没有触犯法律。学校决定不追究。说我们阴了他，迫害他，那真是点到黑白了。这个事件对我们组里的中国学生影响很大，好在已经过去了。请大家不要相信一面之词。我们选择不在媒体上反击，也是为了保护丢失数据的学生的隐私和避免让大家在这个非常时期看中国师生之间的笑话。请多体谅。学校的声明如下。 Even though the criminal charges have been dismissed, we continue to investigate the circumstances surrounding the former research scholar’s unauthorized possession of University files while attempting to leave the country. The former student did not have permission to access or take the files and was repeatedly denied permission to access them. Nonetheless, while cooperating in the investigation, we determined that one of the computing systems to which the student had access included permission settings that were not sufficient to establish a violation of law. As a follow-up to this incident, we also are reviewing our data access and permission standards.
两人对峙，旁观者无法断是非。 但楼主今天提供的中文新闻媒体明显在带节奏的感觉，比如删掉了WSJ里教授的供词（北航访学屡次要求access数据代码被老板拒绝），hill里访学律师的一些奇怪的话（Hu “was not aware of the content/substance of many of the files, since they were part of a larger folder that he was required to access and copy to perform certain research.” --言下之意，就是北航访学出于某些原因确实拷贝了大量代码，连他自己都承认跟工作部分无关的代码），只提供北航访学一方的一面之词。 然后访学直接认定UVA教授举发。他怎么知道的？
华人老板的回应： 这个事情我必须澄清一下。这个访问学生是被FbI 在机场挡住，我和组里的学生只是回答FbI的所有问题。这个学生从实验室的备份盘和其他在读学生的目录下下载大批文件。犯了错，但因为我们的管理问题并没有触犯法律。学校决定不追究。说我们阴了他，迫害他，那真是点到黑白了。这个事件对我们组里的中国学生影响很大，好在已经过去了。请大家不要相信一面之词。我们选择不在媒体上反击，也是为了保护丢失数据的学生的隐私和避免让大家在这个非常时期看中国师生之间的笑话。请多体谅。学校的声明如下。 Even though the criminal charges have been dismissed, we continue to investigate the circumstances surrounding the former research scholar’s unauthorized possession of University files while attempting to leave the country. The former student did not have permission to access or take the files and was repeatedly denied permission to access them. Nonetheless, while cooperating in the investigation, we determined that one of the computing systems to which the student had access included permission settings that were not sufficient to establish a violation of law. As a follow-up to this incident, we also are reviewing our data access and permission standards.
看原文 华人老板说他告诉fbi这个学生突然离开美国很可疑，并且他认为这个学生带走了数据。 然后学生说他通知教授了 Mr. Hu’s lawyer told the Journal that Mr. Dong did know Mr. Hu was leaving for China, as his research assistant position had concluded and his visa was set to expire. He added that Mr. Hu says he emailed Mr. Dong and talked with him on the phone a couple of days before his planned departure. 芝加哥法庭也是因为认为学生盗取导师研究成果，并不是国家安全或者间谍罪起诉 He had been under development for two decades by his University of Virginia adviser 并且所有文章里所有对学生的指控基本都是从导师那里来的，学生的律师说He said his client “absolutely feels betrayed by Professor Dong.” 浊者自浊，学生清不清不知道，导师这个时候想撇清关系也是难
看原文 华人老板说他告诉fbi这个学生突然离开美国很可疑，并且他认为这个学生带走了数据。 然后学生说他通知教授了 Mr. Hu’s lawyer told the Journal that Mr. Dong did know Mr. Hu was leaving for China, as his research assistant position had concluded and his visa was set to expire. He added that Mr. Hu says he emailed Mr. Dong and talked with him on the phone a couple of days before his planned departure. 芝加哥法庭也是因为认为学生盗取导师研究成果，并不是国家安全或者间谍罪起诉 He had been under development for two decades by his University of Virginia adviser 并且所有文章里所有对学生的指控基本都是从导师那里来的，学生的律师说He said his client “absolutely feels betrayed by Professor Dong.” 浊者自浊，学生清不清不知道，导师这个时候想撇清关系也是难 rabbitu 发表于 2020-09-24 22:04
His university of virginia adviser 形容的是proprietary software code....，不是说他adviser charge 他。。。。 Charge 这个动词是跟执法部门一起用的。你认定的那种说法，英文应该会写his adviser accused him... 至于为什么访学认定是被导师举报，我之前也好奇在问。但英文媒体确实没写 另外访学一方面承认自己拷的文件会惹指导教授生气，一方面又指责教授背叛他，也有点迷
好像也看到老兄你也上去踩了俩脚呀 人性的劣根性哈
我當年早就知道會這樣 一邊拼命偷還拼命說自己偷得很偉大 一邊已經知道被偷得很厲害還騙自己說是聯中制俄 但我當年就知道 共產黨就是共產黨 共產主義就是要征服全世界 所以華人在美國一定會陷入火網之中
我二十幾年前就在網上公開說出我的想法了
我即知即行 知行合一
你們自欺欺人 要麼不知 要麼知行不合一
當年你們還群嘲我
現在陷入火網之中
i told you I told you I told you.....
亡 code 補牢
時猶未晚
Hu was stopped by Customs and Border Protection in Chicago as he was trying to leave the U.S. for China on Aug. 25 and admitted to authorities he had code on his laptop that his adviser would be upset to learn he had, according to the Journal. He is now in China working for a military-funded lab at Beihang University in Beijing
他和他的uva 导师都心知肚明啊. :) 北航大学的这位棋高一筹 就不知道当初董为什么要招胡，最后翻脸闹到这种地步
果然反华华人不少。本来以为都是些没啥教育程度的政庇，没想到在大学的教授也有。
记忆犹新。
大家可以设想一下，如果是美国人或者台湾人发现拿了code，被中国海关查获，不知道后果会怎么样？不知道能不能终获清白？
这个事情我必须澄清一下。这个访问学生是被FbI 在机场挡住，我和组里的学生只是回答FbI的所有问题。这个学生从实验室的备份盘和其他在读学生的目录下下载大批文件。犯了错，但因为我们的管理问题并没有触犯法律。学校决定不追究。说我们阴了他，迫害他，那真是点到黑白了。这个事件对我们组里的中国学生影响很大，好在已经过去了。请大家不要相信一面之词。我们选择不在媒体上反击，也是为了保护丢失数据的学生的隐私和避免让大家在这个非常时期看中国师生之间的笑话。请多体谅。学校的声明如下。
Even though the criminal charges have been dismissed, we continue to investigate the circumstances surrounding the former research scholar’s unauthorized possession of University files while attempting to leave the country. The former student did not have permission to access or take the files and was repeatedly denied permission to access them. Nonetheless, while cooperating in the investigation, we determined that one of the computing systems to which the student had access included permission settings that were not sufficient to establish a violation of law. As a follow-up to this incident, we also are reviewing our data access and permission standards.
没办法不政治化的。这个学生本科哈工程，硕博北航。所以一到机场就被拦住检查，发现他带了两个硬盘，马上就扣下了。和他同飞机的我组里的华科大的访问学生就没事。结果，后面几天的调查就发现了大量的我们组的源代码。我们也很佩服fbi的筛查手段。不过美国的司法还是比较公正的。调查发现我们的IT有漏洞，就马上撤销指控。
传说中的魔鬼老板。。。
所以到底是这位UVA教授举发北航访学，还是没有？看他自己的解释，像是fbi例行执法中发现问题。
WSJ和hill也都没讲是UVA教授举报的，只有楼主提供的中文媒体直接这么写。好奇是谁举报的fbi会公布吗？
群里有人问是不是被老板阴了老板的回应，貌似老板是无辜的，不过因为那个学生的背景被拦住例行检查发现问题的
两人对峙，旁观者无法断是非。
但楼主今天提供的中文新闻媒体明显在带节奏的感觉，比如删掉了WSJ里教授的供词（北航访学屡次要求access数据代码被老板拒绝），hill里访学律师的一些奇怪的话（Hu “was not aware of the content/substance of many of the files, since they were part of a larger folder that he was required to access and copy to perform certain research.” --言下之意，就是北航访学出于某些原因确实拷贝了大量代码，连他自己都承认跟工作部分无关的代码），只提供北航访学一方的一面之词。
然后访学直接认定UVA教授举发。他怎么知道的？
校方亡羊補牢
有兩個方法
一個是設定好新的 SOP 讓資安人員全部過濾一遍所有的實驗室備份盤的權限
另外一個
就是別收 帝 生
👍专研精神！有道理。需要看8/28 华尔街日报的原文。
看原文 华人老板说他告诉fbi这个学生突然离开美国很可疑，并且他认为这个学生带走了数据。
然后学生说他通知教授了 Mr. Hu’s lawyer told the Journal that Mr. Dong did know Mr. Hu was leaving for China, as his research assistant position had concluded and his visa was set to expire. He added that Mr. Hu says he emailed Mr. Dong and talked with him on the phone a couple of days before his planned departure.
芝加哥法庭也是因为认为学生盗取导师研究成果，并不是国家安全或者间谍罪起诉 He had been under development for two decades by his University of Virginia adviser
并且所有文章里所有对学生的指控基本都是从导师那里来的，学生的律师说He said his client “absolutely feels betrayed by Professor Dong.”
浊者自浊，学生清不清不知道，导师这个时候想撇清关系也是难
His university of virginia adviser 形容的是proprietary software code....，不是说他adviser charge 他。。。。
Charge 这个动词是跟执法部门一起用的。你认定的那种说法，英文应该会写his adviser accused him...
至于为什么访学认定是被导师举报，我之前也好奇在问。但英文媒体确实没写
另外访学一方面承认自己拷的文件会惹指导教授生气，一方面又指责教授背叛他，也有点迷
會不會
連指導老師也....
据我所知，没啥教育程度的政庇大部分都是粉红。政庇只是一个手段。不过也许我的样本不足，有偏差。 一般文化程度高的，有一定的自我意识，自立能力，成为粉红的可能性就小一些。